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TVs

I have a strange issue with a Roku TV. I added the device, and then setup an activity to power on and change to HDMI 1. For the first week or so, everything was working as expected, but shortly after that it stopped powering on once it had been powered off.

For troubleshooting using the following, but they haven't resolved the issue:

1. Hard-wiring the TV instead of wireless, along with changing the device IP in the app
2. Adding a wake-on-lan command to the activity
3. Enabling Fast TV Start on the Roku TV
4. Enabling Mobile App Control (Permissive)

I'd like to avoid a factory reset on the TV if possible, but if anyone has any tips or suggestions I could try to resolve the problem, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

Staff response: Please note support responses are still quite delayed. This is definitely the most common question though. Roku added a switch for mobile app control. You need to turn it on. Problem solved.

2025

Question: Now that my Sony XR-55A90J has switched from Google TV Media Player Control to Android Media TV Media Player Control I seem to no longer have control over input selection given the Android Roomie Remote GUI.

Am I missing something obvious? Where is the input control we used to have when the Sony TV Media Player was google controlled. I assumed the name of the OS just changed. Did the underlying code also change?

Robert H.
Life long Roomie Remote user

My Setup:
Apple Apple TV Companion Media P...

Staff response: You would never want to control a Sony TV via any of the Android/Google control options. Control it as a Sony TV the normal way. That's where the Input commands are as well.

We allow controlling it as Android because it works. Some apps or games on your Sony TV may be more controllable using it. But certainly if you're trying to control your Sony TV as a TV, you would obviously want to control it as a Sony TV not a generic Android box.

Eero is owned by Amazon, but none of that is relevant. The protocols use different discovery methods. Bonjour/Zeroconf is generally reliable and instant whereas the other protocol advertises via UPnP and thus is variable and could take a while. 60 seconds is a reasonable limit for how long to wait if something doesn't show up.

2025

Has anyone had experience setting up Roomie for Fetch TV?

It is not coming up on the 'Discover on Local Network' list. When adding the device manually, I can select it from the extensive list of set top boxes. However, while I know the device's IP address, I cannot find any documentation to advise which port to use.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Staff response: Not familiar with the box and I do not see a codeset in the IP library indicating they likely do not feature any sort of IP control. Also, it is not listed on our website as compatible. That all means it is controlled via infrared as per the Setup Guide.

Thanks Will. I will give infrared a go.

2024

Thanks Will, but I’m not clear on how to read the log. I turned on Collect Diagnostics and then launched the LG TV activity, but I’m not finding how to read the log. The only option I see is to send the log to support.

Staff response: Setup Guide, page 29: "The same log can be viewed live on iPadOS and macOS devices using the Show Live Diagnostics button visible when Collect Diagnostics is turned on. That button will open a separate window from which to view the log as it happens."

2024

I've got my projector responding to On/Off commands however the command set available that I've been able to find is not complete for this projector. Any suggestions out there? I'm attaching a link for the Command Protocol

Link to Command Protocol Manual

Staff response: Without any specifics, you can either add a supplemental set in Custom Devices with the code(s) you need beyond the normal set, or request specific codes get added to the built-in set. The forum is user-to-user so you would do that via support.

2024

Can anyone confirm that this set works with Roomie ? Had a TCL S4 and couldn't control it. Thinking about this or 75" sony X90L. I know Roomie works great with the sony as I have a smaller 2019 XBR950G. Thank you for any info. Long time roomie user (version 1).

Staff response: According to the website for that product, it is a Google TV. Therefore, we can control it. Whether it will really support discrete power can sometimes vary with bargain basement brands like that (eg. Hisense and TCL).

If the Sony is a realistic choice for you, definitely go with that. I would say that both on the control front and the video front. Most likely, the Hisense is also fine, but Sony has multiple control methods and is really just a guaranteed win on every metric vs the Hisense perhaps except price.

2024

Question: In order to use IP control of my Panasonic DP-UB820, the instructions tell me to turn on voice control and register for the service with Panasonic. I tried, and it looks like this “feature” was discontinued in October 2023 and there is currently no way to register for it.

Does anyone know how I can enable IP control without going through this step?

Staff response: We don't have an untouched test unit so I can't be sure what you're seeing. The test unit we have was enabled for that feature and we performed it years ago. Once you do it, that's it. The player really doesn't ever need Panasonic central to do anything further.

Have you tried just skipping that step? It might work on the latest firmware given they eliminated the other path.

In the event a fresh unit no longer allows this, the good news is that there is a path. The bad news is that the technical skill required to flash firmware on a player may be beyond some users. On the Internet, you will find widely available firmware improvements for these players which now support all the models and the latest firmware.

One of those changes eliminates this whole issue. Roomie's latest release provides a switch in the Advanced panel of the Devices editor for the Panasonic BD players to turn off Panasonic Authentication in the event you have applied such firmware changes. Not only is the whole voice control registration nonsense eliminated, but control of the player is faster because the pointless auth round trip is eliminated. Note that beyond noting the existence of such things, discussion of how to apply or where to get such things should be avoided here as it's not the right forum for that and it's very easy to find on other well known forums.

I would also note that voice control is still heavily advertised by Panasonic, so I feel like this thread may not have the correct information on that topic.

https://amzn.to/3w2p4z8

Clearly translated from the original Japanese and full of swiss cheese holes to read in circles. Reminds me of trying to get information from people at the Panasonic booth every year at CES, just as definitive. I interpret almost nothing from that since we couldn't care less about either voice feat

2024

Question: Trying to set this TV up with RR but it's not showing when adding device using discovery. TV has static IP and tried adding manually but not working. Can control TV with Philips Remote app so it's on the network and responding.

If I enter http://192.168.1.143:1925/system then I get details of the system. Have tried adding use port 1925 but no control with RR.

Any suggestions?

Staff response: Know nothing about that model. Don't think they sell them here. Not listed on the Compatibility list.

However, there is an unlisted codeset for the PFL5006-PFL9006 models in our library, and there's a fair chance it could work with your model. If you use that codeset, try using different ports. If it doesn't work, check the Diagnostic Log and compare against the commands the TV is expecting. Use the Custom Device editor if needed to enter different code. Most likely it's just the codeset/port number.

Infrared control of course would be quite reliable and is obviously also part of our library.

It seems to be impossible to get them in the USA. The nearest country Google referenced for it is Estonia. Anyway, a special pairing code process for a TV with 1 request is probably not going to bubble up to the top of the feature list anytime soon, so I would recommend IR control for that unit as per the Compatibility page.

2024

Question: Hello,

I have a new LG OLED C2 (2022 model). It was working just fine with the Roomie remote until recently. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work, but no luck.

Starting from scratch, I deleted the existing device.
Roomie discovers it with the correct IP address, sees that it is an LG TV. None of the test functions work.
It is picking a MAC address that is not the TV's, I have set that to the correct MAC address (which took several tries for it to stick), but still no luck....

Staff response: Roomie 8.3 fixes the LG C2 issue they broke in a firmware update last week.

After updating to 8.3, first "Force Code Set Update" in Settings. Wait until it finishes. Then open the LG device you have and change the port from 3000 to 3001 or just add it as a fresh device. Make sure your Primary Controller gets these changes (do them from that device) as all commands to LG TVs are sent from your Primary. For hygiene purposes, force restart everything after all of the above.

The MAC address is taken from what LG gives us, but can be wrong because they only give us one, and depending on whether you're using Ethernet or Wi-Fi, it might not be the right one for you which is why we would always advise verifying the MAC address manually.

This has nothing to do with other LG models at present. You can apply the same change to your devices without issue, bu

2023

Question: I purchased the new Sony AZ7000ES AVR. I have tried all the ports on the compatibility list with no luck and I have tried all the Sony options that comes up for devices and still no luck. I have tried these devices with IR as well and non of them control the new Sony.

Are there any plans to add the New Sony AVR's anytime soon?

Thanks,
AH

Staff response: Sony AZ7000ES AVR

Have had zero requests for this so far. If you come across an API, feel free to contact support, the forum is not useful for these kinds of investigations. The "I have found a new receiver model/manufacturer" comes up every 6 months or so and is easy to resolve as long as the user is dedicated to testing changes. We don't just sit around buying $4K receivers every day without interested party users. Also, until it is certain an IP control API exists and works, there's no reason to spend time on it. Certainly, Sony has a history of occasionally releasing random products with no IP control whatsoever (eg. Sony X800M2 UHD BD player which sits above the great 700 and below the 1100 both of which had great IP control). So don't assume it will work eventually until there is evidence of that.

I would note that at a high level it is unlikely Sony made any major changes and very likely one of the existing APIs we support when used on the right port with the right settings will control it. But certainly Sony has a dizzying array of APIs and ports so testing all of those can take time for an unknown model. Doing the basic legwork of using nmap to figure out the port is definitely the easy part though:

sudo nmap -v -p1-65535 -sS [IP of your Device]

In the very unlikely chance Sony didn't add IP control to that model and in the extremely unlikely event that the IR codes actually are changed for that model, you can always learn the IR codes from a physical remote.

Community reply: I have the STR-AZ5000ES.

While I also have not been able to get IP control to work, I have had moderate success with Serial control using an iTach IP2SL assigning the receiver as ES Models Zone 1

Volume reporting works perfectly.
The only issues I have had with using serial:

1. The mute will toggle on, but will not toggle off. I have to grab the Sony remote to unmute.
2. The Input list is hit or miss. Not every HDMI input on the AVR are available in Roomie, but also not every input on the list exist on the AVR.

I have made do for the past 6 months without any other issue.

I can start digging around for information on serial and IP control for these units and will contact support if I find anything.

Please send to support and link back to this thread.

2023

Question: Long time user of Roomie (since version 1). I'm thinking of purchasing an apple tv4k. Question, can you launch an app or have it start automatically ? I want ti use infuse to watch ripped movies on a synology nas. Thanks !

Staff response: You can certainly put an .APPLICATION LAUNCH command into your Activity Start commands to launch an app whenever you engage an Activity. You can also use the new Media Guide to direct launch any app from a list.

AppleTV 4K with Infuse is usable. Zidoo Z9X Pro seems like the best choice right now and we have a full media guide for that. If you're used to Zappiti, the Zidoo would be the cleanest upgrade. Dune has some new models that I haven't tried and in the past has been good too. I am very particular on details like true Atmos and full Dolby Vision, so AppleTV 4K tends not to be my choice for this particular need as there's no way to get passthrough Atmos out of an AppleTV.

Certainly Zidoo supports NAS shares via SMB/NFS. I've never used all these things to hookup a hard drive directly, sounds like a huge pain. Using a NAS makes it easy to switch between Infuse, Zidoo, Dune, etc.

2023

Can not get Sony X700 to power on - Roomie 7.4 - discrete Power Off works but not Power On - I tried Wake on LAN (MAC was auto discovered) but that doesn’t work either - What else should I check? Thanks

Staff response: Probably the most common question we get – there is a KB article on this very question. The answer for the last many years has 98% of the time been "you typed the MAC address wrong". Of course, you may also not have turned on Quickstart or things like that on the Sony.

2022

Question: Can someone supply the steps required to use an ATV 4K (2021) as the primary controller running tvOS 15? I am currently using an iPad as the primary but it is constantly being left off the charger, running out of battery, and then the controllers in other rooms stop working. I plan to place this ATV in my equipment rack where no one will have access, it will be hardwired to power and ethernet, etc. So no chance for failure. But I don’t see any way to put the AppleTV into Guided Access mode. The ...

Staff response: It's called "Single App Mode" and it's part of Apple's SDM.

I have not heard a lot of positive comments about that from users, so I might recommend just skipping it and making sure "Sleep After" is set to Never and see how it goes.

I maintain that a current model iPad on a charger in Guided Access definitely remains the best choice for a primary on many metrics. If you have a problem with people removing the iPad from the charger, that is a personnel problem that should either be solved by discipline or a separate iPad.

2022

Question: Even though Apple TV auto software update was set to OFF. Apple popped up the screen on top of Roomie that wanted you to confirm update or click for LATER install. I clicked later and brought RR to the foreground, but that pop up Apple message seemed to trash the automation on Roomie that was using the Apple TV for the Hub. The only way I got it back was to delete Roomie on Apple TV and reinstall it twice. It had been running fine for over 2 months. My question(s) are:

1. Can I go ahead and ...

Staff response: Don't re-install on AppleTV unless support tells you to do so. Huge waste of time. Once it syncs, you're good. If you have a large config or you've been a user for many years, it can take a little while on non-iOS systems. There is a way to accelerate that by nuking your iCloud data, but it's usually not worthwhile.

There is no issue with current versions of tvOS. Feel free to update as always. As covered in many other places, if you want to block various random tvOS notices, you can try Apple's Single App Mode.

There is no real background refresh on tvOS, Roomie must be foreground. Of course you should leave it on for iOS unless directed otherwise by support for the special case of license refresh in old apps.

As is often the case on the forum, I can only guess which is why we don't officially reply here. More likely it's things like (1) super slow/old device iPhone 8, (2) marginal Wi-Fi connections or other networking issues, (3) slow/old AppleTV. But since in the forum I can't see your configuration, it's all just guesswork and this is why there are frequent stickies here noting that things like this should not be posted to the forum and instead be sent via support ticket.

Certain devices are extremely chatty, require greater than usual amounts of work and thus place a higher burden if you use a slow/old controller. You use the term "watch device", I have no idea what that means, I assume you mean a Primary Controller. ISY is a good example of an extremely chatty device because they don't have good APIs so we have to query their world often. In a support ticket, this is immediately evident. In a forum, difficult to say.

I would re-iterate though that you have now mentioned your AppleTV interrupted by some kind of alert – which is a known issue solved as I said above by Single App Mode. You then mentioned your iPhone 8 interrupted by some kind of system alert which again is extensively documented solved by Guided Access. Run a Primary with Guided Access on a charger and ideally with an Ethernet adapter (this is repeated many times in the Setup Guide).

Both iPhone 8 and Apple TV pre-2021 models are now at their replacement timeframe or beyond it. As I've often said, the best way to do this is to buy brand new devices the moment they are introduced and then use them up to 5 years. The iPhone 8 is a 2017 device, so now is the time to replace it. It is one of the lowest models supported by iOS 16 in the Fall, so most likely it won't be supported by iOS at some point soon. Meanwhile, the AppleTV HD is 7 years old and definitely should not be used as a Primary at this point. The 2017 AppleTV 4K model (A10) is even worse than the iPhone 8 (A11), so these devices are both highly suspect modulo the context that I have no information on your config so the issue could be unrelated to a slow controller.

2022

Question: Any plans to support Philips Hue Sync? I have Philips Hue working with ambient lighting around TV. The addition of Hue Sync is powerful, but I have to control that via native app after-the-fact. Would love to have the integration all together in Roomie Remote.

Staff response: Have not used this. Given a Hue setup, what did they do for this? A quick Google seems like you need a PC running some kind of desktop app to make it work? That seems absurdly obscure. Is this mainstream, a PC desktop app is definitely not that? Anyway, if there's a straightforward way for me to set this up I'm happy to look at it. Also, what does "control" mean to you in this context? Shouldn't their sync just work with the TV? What kind of control do you want for it?

That API is immense. It's doable because it's based on Hue which we have, but actually a fair bit more complex than Hue Bridge. Anyway, it will take a fair number of user requests for this to add it because we'd need a test device. This would take forever to get working without a test unit and since the units are pretty expensive, I'd have to feel like it was very popular within our user base.

Modifying their app to do more of their stuff doesn't likely have any impact on their API.

2022

Feature: New .APP LAUNCH command for Apple TV allows launching specific apps from Roomie Remote activities.

Implementation Details:
- Use .APP LAUNCH command to launch apps by bundle identifier
- Retrieve available apps using .APP LIST command and check pinch-to-zoom logs for full list
- Use Apple TV "Companion" code set (not the standard ATV4 set) which contains the .APPLICATION LAUNCH command
- Can add both standard and Companion Apple TV devices for full functionality
- Launch syntax: Simply enter the bundle identifier (e.g., com.google.ios.youtube for YouTube)

Reference List of tvOS 15 Bundle Identifiers:
- Prime Video: com.amazon.aiv.AIVApp
- YouTube: com.google.ios.youtube
- YouTube TV: com.google.ios.youtube (same as YouTube, confirmed by users)
- Netflix: com.netflix.Netflix
- Hulu: com.hulu.plus
- Disney+: com.disney.disneyplus
- HBO Max: com.hbo.hbonow
- HBO GO: com.hbo.hbogo
- Paramount+: com.cbsvideo.app
- Apple TV App Store: com.apple.TVAppStore
- Apple Arcade: com.apple.Arcade
- Apple Fitness+: com.apple.Fitness
- Settings: com.apple.TVSettings
- Photos: com.apple.TVPhotos
- Music: com.apple.TVMusic
- Podcasts: com.apple.podcasts
- Trailers: com.apple.movietrailers
- Search: com.apple.TVSearch
- TV Shows: com.apple.TVShows
- Movies: com.apple.TVMovies
- TV (WatchList): com.apple.TVWatchList
- Computers (HomeSharing): com.apple.TVHomeSharing
- iBooks StoryTime: com.apple.TVBooks
- Roomie TV (Roomie app on ATV): com.roomie.unified
- Peacock: com.peacocktv.peacock
- Plex: com.plexapp.plex
- Spotify: com.spotify.client
- Arlo: com.netgear.arlo
- Criterion: com.criterionchannel
- Disney NOW: com.disney.WATCHDisneyChannel
- FOX NOW: com.fox.now
- Fox Nation: com.foxnews.nation
- AMC: com.amctve.amcfullepisodes
- Bravo: com.nbcuni.bravo.bravonow
- Nick: com.mtvn.Nickelodeon
- Spectrum TV: com.timewarnercable.simulcast
- DIRECTV STREAM: com.att.tv
- STARZ: com.starz.starzplay
- Showtime Anytime: com.showtime.showtimeanytime
- Animal Planet GO: com.discovery.mobile.aplgo
- VLC: org.videolan.vlc-ios
- MrMC: tv.mrmc.mrmc.tvos
- PCalc: com.pcalc.tv
- 8player Pro: com.8player
- Sonic Racing: com.sega.kartios
- Just Dance Now: com.ubisoft.dance.JustDance
- HDHomeRun: com.silicondust.hdhomerun
- TestFlight: com.apple.TestFlight

Activity Setup Instructions:
1. Create/edit an activity
2. Add Apple TV Companion device
3. Add command: Launch App
4. Enter the bundle identifier in the blank space (no other characters)
5. Example: For YouTube, enter only com.google.ios.youtube

Troubleshooting:
- If Launch App command doesn't appear: Ensure you're using the "Companion" codeset, not the standard ATV4 set
- For apps not in the reference list: Use Media Guide to launch the app, then search for "GuideViewController:selectedPlaylist" in diagnostic logs to find the bundle ID
- External resource for finding bundle IDs: https://offcornerdev.com/bundleid.html
- Alternative: Search for "GuideViewController:selectedPlaylist" in the diagnostic log after launching an app from Media Guide

2021

Staff response: Yes. Just "Add Repeat" to the command.

Hi Will
I know its a long time since you suggested “Add Repeat” to the command. I’v been living with my TV lifter not fully retracting but feel I now need to resolve the issue. I have used “Add Repeat” but irrespective of the number of milliseconds I set it to it only works for 17 seconds. I have tried 20,000 and 30,000 milliseconds with the same outcome. What else can I do to get the repeat function to work for 30 seconds.

Staff response: Submit this properly via support so we can see exactly how you constructed your command.

2021

Hi Will,

Are there any files available for IP Control of an Nexus21 TV Lift ??
The unit has IP Control but I can't find any other documentation.

Thanks,
JR

Staff response: I have no idea. If you have one then presumably they would send you the commands via a support ticket since a quick Google seems to indicate the feature exists. Such things can almost always be entered directly into the Custom Devices section of the app especially for things like that where only 2 commands are typically relevant.

2021

Just wondering if the sony ubp-x700/m is supported for IP? The reasoning why is because the ubp-x700 is supported however the model number changed for the newer blu ray player. Thanks!

Staff response: Wasn't that the one where they just changed the power cord or some other totally meaningless thing? I believe so. They just killed the 1100, tweaked a cord or model number and now have the 700 and 800M2 I believe. Shouldn't be any change in theory.

2021

Im having trouble getting my apple TV's to reliably switch on / off. ive almost managed to get them to wake up reliably by repeating menu press delay 200ms 6 times with a long menue press to take it back to the main menu, but i cant help that feel there must be a more elegant way of doing this.

Getting them to sleep has proved to be elusive! it accept a long home press to bring up the sleep option but i cant get the touch pad select thats needed to select the sleep option to work at all, ive tried putting delays in to no avail.

Im certain its that im doing something wrong but i cant see what, if anyone has had success with this could you let me have your setting please?

2021

I just picked up an LG webOS TV. Roomie found it and added it as an IP device and I was able to pair it without issue using the pairing code displayed on the TV. That said however, I’m seeing approximately 6-8 seconds of latency between commands sent from Roomie and the TV executing the command. Any idea what may be causing this? FYI, all of my other IP devices within Roomie are working as expected...

Staff response: Normally I would moderate this out as this type of run of the mill tech support is not something that should clutter the forums. However, we get this often enough to leave a record of it here. This is documented by the way.

LG WebOS is a relay device like several others. These devices ensure that they remain controllable even if many of your devices are running Roomie targeting the same device – since they only support a small number of connections, you would otherwise run into absurd limits without this feature (often they only allow 1 connection at a time).

A relay device might have slow response if your Primary Controller is not defined (see Setup Guide). Any system with relay devices should select an explicit Primary Controller (and make sure it's setup properly, see Setup Guide) to make sure you never see such issues.

Setting the primary controller did the trick. Thank you...

2020

Sony is making it difficult to access Antenna within the Roomie Remote app. I've done some homework, even shifted through JSON, and I'm not getting this to work. Here's the steps I took:
• Checked to see if Cable/Antenna access was an app through:
curl -v -XPOST http://192.168.1.20/sony/appControl -H 'X-Auth-PSK:1111' -d '{"method":"getApplicationList","params":[""],"id":4,"version":"1.0"}'. Nothing turned up – in the UI the Cable/Antenna appears as an app, so I was hoping it was treated as an app, but no luck.
• Tried adding command .key string but there's not option to add in a value
• Tried adding command .key string end with AAAAAQAAAAEAAAAqAw== (found the key string on a reddit post)
• Read what Key String means in the DDR PDF, and I think that I'm getting the different uses of the term key confused between Roomie Remote and Sony.

I know very little about coding, so other than editing the .plist file (per the DDR ), does anyone have a suggestion of how I could tackle this? We honestly watch such little TV, it's not a biggie to pull out the remote, but I want to maximize the value I'm getting out of this app. After all, this app is the reason I'm abandoning my Harmony Hub system.

Thanks!

Staff response: Not really sure what you're trying to do, but a similar command would look like this. Your cookie must match the device so it's unlikely you can just supplement this command with another unless you use a static cookie, or override the entire internal device.

\t\t\t<key>INPUT TV</key>
\t\t\t<string>POST /sony/avContent
Content-Type: application/json
Cookie: $COOKIE$

{"method":"setPlayContent","id":$COUNT$,"params":[{"uri":"tv:"}],"version":"1.0"}</string>

I'm trying to setup an activity labeled "OTA" (there are a few rare times when I want to watch network TV). Currently, on the Bravia, the only way I can change to the Antenna is to go to the Bravia dashboard which is an Android interface. On the Bravia remote there is no way input to the Antenna without having to go to the dashboard. :man_shrugging:

2020

I tried added Sony-X800 and it asked if my model was the X70 or X80. Whichever model I choose it adds the player but without any commands.

I reviewed the compatibility chart and noticed in the notes: 2019 X800M2 has no IP control. Use X1100 or X700. My player is the M2. Does this mean it cannot be controlled or can I set it up as an X1100 or X700? If so, How do I do this?

Thanks,
Ray

Staff response: Means exactly what it says. That model is verified 100% as not having any IP control. Get the cheaper X700 or more expensive X1100 instead. (Always check the list before buying if possible!)

2020

I've been a Roomie Remote user from the beginning. I just bought a new piece of gear, and I am revisiting the custom code sets I created years ago using codes from the DDK. All of my devices have been successfully controlled serially via GC-100(s) for years now. However, I have 1 command that I just cannot figure out. How do I receive serial feedback for the volume?

Here is a link to manual that I used to create the code set

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles.cgi?area=other&db=other&br=codes&dv=devicers232protocolsheets&md=sonyreceivers&kw=&st=&ar=&dt=&so=&pg=2&file=rs232/sony-receiver.zip

Data Format (Host Controller <-> Amplifier)

STX+BC+PDC+CMD + Data1+-----+DataN+CS

The terminological definition is as follows.

STX 02 H : Start of text code

BC : Byte Count (Number of bytes of until before CS from PDC.)

PDC : Product Code

CMD : Command (Opecode)

DataN : DataBlock(0

...

CS : Check Sum. A value from which 8 bits of low ranks of the sum from BC to CS are set to 0.

OK, so here are my codes

.VOLUME STATUS

STX 02 H : 0x02

BC : 0x04

PDC : 0x0a (AMP)

CMD : 0x92 (VolumeStatusReq)

DataN : 0x00 (ZONE=main room)

DataN : 0x00 (VOL ATTRIBUTE=current)

CS : 0xc9

Pretty straight forward. Next,

.VOLUME SET

STX 02 H : 0x02

BC : 0x06

PDC : 0x0a (AMP)

CMD : 0x52 (VolumeSet)

DataN : 0x00 (ZONE =main room)

DataN : 0x01 (VOL ATTRIBUTE=current direct value setting)

DataN : 0xa6 (VOL Step_High= volume_upper_data) (set to -90 in this example)

DataN :0x00 (VOL Step_Low= volume_lowerer_data)

CS : 0x61

This one is particularly perplexing because of the parameter in the 3rd data block. How do you calculate a checksum when one of the values is unknown? Lastly,

.VOLUME FORMAT

8 (Sony Binary Volume Format) per the DDK

Any help is greatly appreciated.

2020

Question: Any hope of ip controls? You can now control the 9000 thru both Alexa and google so there must be some type of api.

Staff response: We believe there may be an API that exists for the DP-UB820. But there is not yet any indication of that for the 9000. At this point nothing is published so officially none of the Panasonic models support IP control. If there were genuine evidence of IP control such that we could work on it with solid leads, we'd acquire test units, but we're not aware of any yet.

That's what I mentioned before. Someone would need to figure out the API because Panasonic does not publish it.

I tested the 820. You're not likely to find a way into that without WireShark on an existing known-good protocol. Any Alexa stuff will be unrelated as it would be cloud based.

Post the URLs you used that work for status. Maybe that will trigger something.

dvdr_ctrl.cgi

That's the 2011 Panasonic BD protocol. So just try that codeset. Add manual Blu-ray, port 80, brand Panasonic, "BDT Series (2011/2012 Models)". Let me know what if anything works.

Switch to beta so you can look at the logs. Then send them to support if needed. If we can get it working this way, that would be nice. If you don't have access to beta, submit a ticket.

Just need to scroll up. Use tickets so we can see it.

So it sounds like they re-used their ancient protocol from 2011, but then added some undetermined authentication.

Control for these devices has been added as part of tonight's 7.0.1 release.

• Panasonic Blu-ray Player IP Control: Current models including the DP-UB820 and DP-UB9000 can now be controlled directly. [7.0.1]

It might also work with the UB420, but I was not able to test that before release.

Note that you must activate the Voice Control option in the Settings on the device (even though it seems otherwise totally irrelevant) as that switch also allows normal control.
• Voice Control: ON and registered at the Panasonic site listed in the UI
• Registration Type: Auto
• Networked Standby: On

The feedback call present in Panasonic 2012 models is there, but seems non-functional so for now I've hidden it. It just doesn't return data that is correct. I was hopeful it might based on a user post from Jun'20, but in my tests all of the data returned was bogus so possibly they disabled it in firmware since that time.

Anyway, it works. Since it is otherwise a nice player, and it finally works for IP control, great.

It's the Voice Control option on the Panasonic, not related to Roomie. That's what leads you to their registration.

Based on a quick Google, my guess is the 824 is just the German model? Almost certainly the same as the US model as far as IP control goes.

Unnecessary to try to patch your firmware as Roomie does properly support the authentication.

However, if anyone does try to patch their Panasonic player, you would want to switch the codeset used by Roomie from the default to the old "BDT Series (2011/2012 Models)" from before they added the authentication step.

Removing the authentication will increase the respon...

2020

Question: Has anyone had success controlling the AT&T TV set-top box model C71-KW200 properly? When I discover devices on my local network, it finds it as a Google Chromecast-like device (which it is) but does not offer any of the AT&T (DirecTV) controls. I hear this box might have the same IP control features as the DirecTV Genie STBs?

I do have a Roomie IR blaster and I can add the device as an IR device to my setup which works great for everything except using the media-guides to change channels. Thi...

Staff response: Based on your description, it sounds like it probably is just a rebranded DirecTV Genie. Also, the last DirecTV branded box was model C61, so if this is C71, it's probably about the same thing.

In that scenario, you would just add the device manually on port 8080 as shown on the Compatibility list. You'll need to figure out its IP on your network and enable the usual additional options as per the list.

Channel switching style is also switchable as per the Advanced setting in Devices.

2020

Question: Hello All-

I am trying the 7 day trial of Roomie to see if I want to get rid of my Logitech Remote and use an iPad mini instead. I have searched and searched but can't seem to find an answer to this question....

I am using an HR25-100 DirecTV receiver and according the compatibility chart on this site Roomie is compatible with this device can someone tell me how I get Roomie to see it so I can control it?

All help is greatly appreciated!

Staff response: This isn't going to be a Roomie question, it's a DirecTV question. How various DirecTV boxes get on the Internet can be complicated and the answers for such questions will be found via AT&T forums/support.

2020

In needing a garage door “status monitor” for our family, I’ve found the new [Insignia Garage Door Controller] (https://www.insigniaproducts.com/pdp/NS-CH1XGO8/5933701)

Being HomeKit compatible, am I correct in assuming that it should also work/be recognized with SC?

Has anyone else used this device yet? I realize a new garage door opener would be a more “robust” solution, but in lieu of spending hundreds more and the fact that I don’t plan to use this for regular garage door operation, but rather to have assurance that the door is closed when we’re away (based on a recent episode where the boys left it open all day!)

Staff response: HomeKit is pretty much a given. If it works with HomeKit, it will work with us. Garage Door HomeKit devices work well to the extent we've tested which is mostly the myQ/Chamberlain HomeKit interface.

Reporting back that these devices work GREAT...from the install, HomeKit setup, and auto sync with Simple Control (garage doors now are an added icon in the homebar). Very economical way to incorporate garage door openers into your smart home (without having to buy new openers!)

2018

Hello!

I've searched the forum, for this particular projector but didn't find anything. I found some other Sony Projectors..

Has anyone been able to Simple Control to control the VPL-VW285ES via Ethernet and/or Serial.. I'm in the process of purchasing one, and want to make sure I can control it..

Thanks!

Dave

Staff response: It's listed on the website for IR. If it has serial or IP, it would work, but we don't list it because we're not aware of that being the case.

Yes it will work. You can use the VW600ES IP control and it will work fine. I have used it on the VW885ES and VW385ES. So the VW285ES will work.

2018

Question: Hi, just a friendly warning to those of us in the Apple Beta program. Do not update to 11.3. There are strange issues with control via remote from dropping connections, to loss of control when in an app, to keyboards not working. There is a note in the update log that says "Restrict Remote app connections to specified iOS devices.". I'm not sure if this is the root cause but it appears to be affecting the stock Apple iOS TV remote as well. Unpairing/repairing the remote in Simple Control does no...

Staff response: Very promising! – ignoring minor beta bugs that are to be expected.

I had never heard of "Single App Mode", but sounds like it started in tvOS 10.2. Apparently it auto-resumes the app even after reboot. This is exactly what I have been hoping for.

We fixed this ages ago internally but (1) tvOS 11.3 isn't out yet so there's no point in releasing a fix for something that has changed multiple times during beta, and (2) the App Store has had some problems lately so updates haven't been able to get through at a normal speed -- for instance any app that supports HomeKit at all couldn't be updated for several days earlier this week, and now it seems things are very backed up. At some point all of this will wash out. For those who thought upgrading to random iOS/tvOS betas was a safe thing to do, hopefully this was a lesson learned. Always use test devices for iOS/tvOS betas that are specifically for that purpose.

2018

That should work fine.

It's a HomeKit device first and foremost. Anything else is basically irrelevant. Simple Control Triggers support HomeKit accessories, of all kinds.

2018

Comparison and discussion of using iPad versus Apple TV as a Roomie Remote hub device for network control and home automation.

2017

Is the STR-DN1080 compatible over IP? If so, does Wake on LAN work? Didn't see the 2017 models listed in the compatibility chart.

Thanks!

Staff response: Add the receiver via Manual IP on Port 33336 choosing the Model = DN-1070 Zone 1. Also please be sure any applicable network settings according to your owner's manual, such as Network Standby are enabled for IP control. Based on tickets, this should work fine, but we generally test it or otherwise confirm it before officially adding it to the supported list. Though many other Sony products use Wake on LAN, I think this model is just direct power commands.

2017

A few months ago I got my Sony STR-ZA810ES receiver working with simeple contol 4. I see that there is now support for the STR-DN-1080 in SC5.

According to sony the ZA810ES and the DN-1080 use the same command set, but the za810es is not discovered by SC, nor when adding it manually can I tell it to use the DN-1080 command set. The only one that still works is the DN-1070 Zone 1 commands. Neither the STR-DN-10X0 Zone 1 or DN Models command sets work.

Staff response: Can't tell from your message if you're saying it's working for you or not because you mention you found a working set. In any case, if it's the same, you can look at the compatibility page, grab the port number for that (33336), add a Receiver manually, brand Sony, category DN-1070 Zone 1.

Yeah, it works as Dn-1070 Zone 1. I thought i saw in the notes however that there was new dn-1080 support. The DN-1070 support has always been slightly imperfect however. Support for receiver "modes" in particular seems broken.

2017

Question: It is possible to add a command to recall a Philips Hue Scene. However, scenes are recalled by an ID, not a name, and I don't know the IDs. The Hue iOS app that creates scenes does not appear to indicate the scene id, and the hue web app doesn't show scenes or scene IDs.

Any idea where I could find my scene IDs?

Staff response: Sounds like you're running an old version. V5 presents you a list of scene names for Hue.

You do need to update the manifest in V5 to reflect that.

You should ask Support to look at it as we do provide scene names now.

2017

Question: I have a TCL Roku TV which is discovered on my wireless network but I don't have full functionality. I'm unable to control the tv volume or turn the power on/off. Has anyone gotten this working?

Staff response: It's not on our supported list. However, it's probably a child of the normal Roku protocol. If you go through support we can probably add those commands (the protocol is so simple that they can likely be added via the DDK as well very easily).

Spoke too soon. Those are in the beta release notes for the next major release as auto-discovered units. However, it is supported in current production 5.0.12, but needs to be added manually. Use port 8060, type TV, brand Roku.

2017

Instructions and discussion for powering on Sony TVs using network control methods (such as Wake-on-LAN) through Roomie Remote.

2016

Can anybody help me controlling the Panasonic UHD Player DMP-UB900 via IP? When I tap "Add Device", the player is listed correctly as "Panasonic DMP-UB900 Blu-ray Player". In the "Add Device" screen however, it says "Panasonic Blu-ray Player BDT Series ([b]2001/2012 Models[/b]). When I tap "Test Remote", the device does not respond to any commands (they appear red in the list).

I am aware that it would probably work OK over IR, but I'd really prefer IP. I appreciate any help.

Staff response: No reason to believe that model has any IP control which is why we do not list it. Panasonic has not had IP control in Blu-ray Players since their 2012 models – which had excellent IP control, but then they abandoned most of the market and outsourced their player firmware. If we become aware of any changes there, we'd certainly look into it. More likely, the UHD players with good IP control will end up being Sony and Oppo as usual. This first wave seems a bit rushed. They all work great via IR.

Thanks for the explanation.

2016

Is there any support coming in the near future for the new Philips BDP7501 Ultra HD Bluray player? I am considering getting one and would really prefer it be controlled via my Simple Control remote without having to use the IP to IR device.

Staff response: I checked that player personally and there is no IP whatsoever.

Works great with the Philips Blu-ray Code Group 2 via IR.

Thanks,
Will

Thanks Will! I wonder if the Panasonic DMP-UB900 will be the same. As I understand it, they share some of the same components or at least have the same user interface. I've been torn on waiting for the Panasonic (not yet available in the US) since it's a better quality player or just getting the Philips and calling it a day.

2016

I noticed that Simple Control can detect whether the Apple TV 4 is playing content or if it is paused. What I can't figure out is how to tie commands to these different states. Here's what I mean: I have an Apple TV activity that turns all of the A/V equipment on and dims the room lights. I then select and play content. I want to be able to hit pause on the remote and have the lights come back up. The way Simple Control works (and the Siri and old Apple TV remotes work, for that matter), it's just a toggle, so I can't see any way to customize the play / pause actions on that button.

Is it possible to do what I'm trying? Any tips on how to do it would be appreciated.

gs

2016

Customer has Sharp LC-nnLE830U. Like I have with many other Sharp TVs, I set it up to use IP control. Power on, power off, input changing, menus, channel up, channel down, volume all work well.

But this customer is getting rid of U-Verse, and is instead watching broadcast only. 2 commands are not working:


  • Channel Set

  • Previous (channel)


I can confirm that the commands are being sent (they show up as blue on Roomie screen), but the channel does not change to 7.1 or 42.1; nor will it change back to the previous channel.

Any thoughts?

We can handle that for you in support.

2015

What is the latest on this year Samsung TVs? Is the network port still powered down with the TV?

Ethernet is indeed dead on the 2015 models when off. We have one, we have explicitly tested this in every which way.

We're exploring whether we can regain IP control once turned on like we do with the 2010-2013 models. It's a herculean task, but one we're attempting. Given we're still the only ones with Apple TV IP Control, and an Apple TV Media Guide, we feel pretty good about the chance of success, but it will be a while before that kind of effort might come to fruition.

Either way, it wont solve power. EX-Link Serial (Best) or Infrared (Better) or Anynet+ (Good) seem like they will remain Samsung's solutions at least for this year.

(FWIW We were contacted directly by Samsung, they mentioned our tweet from CES about power control, we're hopeful they might take it into account in the future.)

Meanwhile, we're going to keep working on it to see if we can get other IP control style benefits like our recent addition of significant IP control for LG TVs.

I was playing around with iOS App Samsung Smart View 2. There is definitely IP Control Capability. Since it appears that Samsung does not want to play ball with Roomie is there a way Roomie could glean anything from the app (ie sniff port 7676 while using this app)?

I'm not a developer but I could email you a list of ports the Samsung JS9500 uses while it's running if that helps.

Thanks

What we can say for now is that we have detailed plans here. There is extremely good reason to be optimistic. It's safe to say we have numerous test models of their 14/15 models so there is no need to send us anything. Two things:

(1) If you have many devices (9+) and would be interested in beta testing Roomie over the Summer for the big annual Fall release, please email support@roomieremote.com. In particular, we would like a good number of Samsung 2014/2015 models added to the beta group. In general for any beta addition, our primary interest is adding people with devices that are not well represented.

(2) If you have a Samsung 2014/2015 model, please experiment with Wi-Fi functionality in particular. There may be a way (outside Roomie) to turn it on via Wi-Fi. We have not spent a lot of time looking into that part, so there is ground yet to cover here. Given Samsung's descriptions of their 2015 features, there is still reason to believe that the 2015 models at least might be able to be awakened when asleep – but not via normal Wake on LAN, possibly via some other method. If so, we can likely replicate that.

Just to make sure any searches finding this thread get the latest information, we did release support for the 2014/2015 SmartHub models as part of 3.3.0. There is not currently a way to power them on via IP – that's a hardware limitation. Once on, all standard controls are available including keyboard control when supported by the underly...

2015

Has anyone tested any of the new sony 2015 tv's yet? In particular the XBR series. Does Wake on LAN still work like it has for the 2013 and 2014 models?

I too would like to know about WOL and other controls for the 2015 XBRs.

Based on support tickets we believe this works with virtually everything in the 2015 range. We'll update the device compatibility page when we have definitive information. We use the same protocols used by Sony themselves for the manufacturer app. Compatible models for that are listed here:

info.tvsideview.sony.net/en_ww/h ... l#internet

Hello I have a 2014 x8505B and I would thought the following request would apply to 2015: is there a way to use the record and pause TV options inside roomie via IP control ? I'm in Europe (France) and a lot of people there aren't using cable Box (which are often ISP proprietary) and/or DVR (includes in ISP proprietary cable box).

2015

I have a Sharp TV (LC-60LE832U) that is controlled by IP on/off perfectly with my Vera. I just started with roomie remote and everything works great except the Sharp TV. It wont turn on or off. That is all I need by the way. IP address/port is correct. IP control is on.

For Vera to turn on: I send a IP control on command, delay, then TV on.

For Vera to turn off: I send TV off.

I have tried many different combinations with roomie but nothing works. Can someone help? Thanks.

The command you need in Roomie is called POWER COMMANDS IP, referred to on the IP Compatibility list here:

Device Compatibility

A best practice for that is basically to include that command in your System Off Activity so that the TV is reminded on a regular basis that it should continue to enable power control via IP.

Roomie, thanks for that best practice tip. I have had issues with a few of my customers losing control of their Sharps after a while. I could never quite figure out why it would work so well when I was there, but then I'd get a call a few months later that the TV was not being controlled anymore. That makes perfect sense (well, ok, it makes no sense at all!) that the Sharp would forget that it was set to enable IP control.

I suggest putting that best practice tip in the Supported IP Controllable Devices section.

2014

Any plans to add this to the IR database? The other Samsung soundbar variants don't work and iTach really struggles to learn the codes manually.

We recommend contacting support. We have some codes for you to try.

Roomie Remote Support

2014

I've done a search of the forum and also looked at the IP compatibility list but this player isn't listed.

can an anyone confirm if this player is fully compatible with Roomie?

Many thanks.

It's listed as a supported infrared device.

Device Compatibility

Thanks for the reply.

I'm looking for a player with IP support rather than IR. It appears many of the listed models are for the US market and trying to find them in the UK is difficult.

Can anyone recommend a good low priced Blu-Ray player which is IP compatible and readily available in the UK?

Low price plus full IP control is going to mean Sony. The Sony BD models from 2013 and 2014 listed on the IP Compatibility list should all be excellent choices.

Ive ve been searching for the Sony models listed in the UK but they seem hard to find. The 3100 appears to be discontinued here and I can't find the 5100 but the 5200 is available. However the 5200 isn't listed as compatible. The 3200 also doesn't appear to be available in the UK.

Looking at the available Sony models in my price bracket, the BDP-S4200 looks ideal but is it fully IP controllable?

The 5200 should work fine. Any model that says it works with the Sony app is fine would be the basic test.

We'll correct the compatibility list.

Many thanks for the replies. All very helpful.

2014

**Just setting up a Roomie - simple setup with a DirecTV HR34 receiver

When I'm in that activity, the virtual DTV remote doesn't contain live feedback, such as channel and show info. It appears on the screenshots on this site, but I can't find a way to get it to work on my iPad. The Channel Guide info does seem to work fine.

Any suggestions - Thanks!

**If you check other threads in the forums, it sounds like there may be a setting for that in the menus on the box called something like "Whole Home Enabled". That must be turned on for the feedback to work.

**Thank you -

I had whole-home already enabled, but the live feedback wasn't working. Looking closer, I found that there is a setting within whole-home on the HR34 that enables/blocks external devices from controlling the current program. I enabled this and restarted the receiver and the feedback seems to be working now.

BTW, great product!!!

**As a followup...

I notice that on the screen shot posted on your features page a couple of things I'm not seeing with my DirecTV activity/remote:

1. In the area of the live feedback (with the channel/show info), there is a small icon with a return arrow that looks like something that symbolizes return to the channel guide - my live feedback area does not have that icon

2. on the top menu, there is a keyboard icon that I am also not seeing on my roomie

Thoughts?

**DirecTV does not have a keyboard. The screenshot you're talking about sounds like the experimental TiVo support which does link the Virtual Remote back to the guide. We're not sure why the guide jump button isn't turned on for DirecTV, it's probably something we can add easily in the future.

**Again, Thank You -

Since I saw those icons in the DirecTV screenshots, I wasn't sure what to make of what they were for.

The guide jump would be great - rather than have to scroll to get back to that place in the guide.

2013

**Right! set it up and all working well

But it could be better....a few questions

- Anyway to create a volume slider or just a more effective volume control than multitapping a small button

- anyway to make Apple TV go straight to the Netflix app

- my Oppo 95 remote doesn't show feedback info ie blu-ray title, time etc

**Anything with volume feedback gets a slider. Just tap the volume screen to bring it up. If your device has no volume feedback, there's no way to create a slider.

Apple TV is an infrared device, so that would involve crazy macros with lots of left-left-right-up-down-up-down nonsense. We don't recommend it. Roku is IP controllable, has great Netflix support, and has a command to jump directly to Netflix.

For the Oppo 95 feedback, assuming you are using serial as Oppo does not provide any feedback yet via IP (they say have a plan to do so in the future), you need to send 'RS232 VERBOSE 3' per the Serial Compatibility page. Once that is sent, the feedback comes alive.

**Thanks Roomie, very helpful

Does the WD Live TV provide IP control - it looks better specced than the roku?

I presume Serial control requires another dongle/more cost?

**Oh, and does the Pioneer VSX- 2020 provide volume feedback? How can one tell

**WD TV does provide IP control. We love Amazon Prime, and WD TV does not provide that. Roku has Amazon and a healthy network of third-party channels. We would generally advise Roku.

The 2020 looks like a 2011 model for the EU only? Look for whether it is supposed to work with the generic Pioneer app for iOS. If yes, then Roomie will also work and provide feedback.

**Thanks

Think I'm suffering with being in the UK

- yes the 2020 doesnt work with the generic app, just a basic AV control

- Amazon Prime - is that an Amazon streaming service? Also not in the UK

2013

I just got a WD TV Live for the sole purpose of using it for Slingplayer. I noticed the guide haas direct link buttons to the different online services. However, I did not see any of these commands when trying to setup an activity. Is there anyway to directly connect to a service?

My end goal is to have a Watch Slingbox Activity that automatically loads the slingplayer app.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The .CHANNEL SET command works for WD TV just like Roku (you'll find various references to that in the forums). The difference is that getting the channel list out of the WD TV is less easy than Roku so we'll list some common ones here as it's likely the channel numbers are the same between boxes:

name = AccuWeather;
"service_id" = 28;
name = "AOL HD";
"service_id" = 58;
name = CinemaNow;
"service_id" = 25;
name = ComedyTime;
"service_id" = 51;
name = DailyMotion;
"service_id" = 35;
name = Facebook;
"service_id" = 17;
name = Flickr;
"service_id" = 14;
name = Flixster;
"service_id" = 41;
name = Hauppauge;
"service_id" = 48;
name = "Hulu Plus";
"service_id" = 31;
name = Kannuu;
"service_id" = 79;
name = LaunchPad;
"service_id" = 30;
name = Live365;
"service_id" = 13;
name = "MLB.TV";
"service_id" = 38;
name = myTV;
"service_id" = 80;
name = Netflix;
"service_id" = 26;
name = Pandora;
"service_id" = 20;
name = "Picasa Web Albums";
"service_id" = 19;
name = "Red Bull TV";
"service_id" = 59;
name = "SEC Digital Network";
"service_id" = 55;
name = SHOUTcast;
"service_id" = 18;
name = "Skitter TV";
"service_id" = 45;
name = SlingPlayer;
"service_id" = 57;
name = Snagfilm;
"service_id" = 47;
name = Spotify;
"service_id" = 37;
name = "Tunein Radio";
"service_id" = 23;
name = Vimeo;
"service_id" = 39;
name = "VUDU Movies";
"service_id" = 40;
name = WatchMojo;
"service_id" = 50;
name = "XOS College Sports";
"service_id" = 54;
name = YouTube;
"service_id" = 15;
name = "YouTube Leanback";
"service_id" = 16;
name = YuppTV;
"service_id" = 62;


Thank you.

Thank You. you guys rock. worked perfectly. :slight_smile:

2013

I haven't tried this yet and wanted to find out if anyone has had success using the HDMI-CEC control via an Onkyo receiver (TX-NR515, 616, etc) to power on/off and switch inputs for Samsung TV's.

If you have - I'd love to hear your experience...

Anyone successful with this? I just bought the Flex IP2SL and will be setting it up soon (needs to run through some walls), but it would be nice to avoid. I have the Onkyo TX-NR515 and the 2012 Samsung plasma.

As an aside, anyone have issues with needing to have both monitors on coming out of an Onkyo receiver? My main will only work if the sub is also on. Onkyo tech support was unable to help.

Let's put it this way - I've tried seven ways to sunday to get this to work with various Samsung TV's and...it just doesn't. I've been using iTach Flex units (either IP or WiFi) and a serial cable, but this only works if the TV has a serial input on it (1/8" stereo mini - usually labeled 'Ex-Link'. Or, if not, an IR bug that gets attached in front of the IR sensor on the TV.

2013

I don't own a Roomie setup yet, but I certainly will shortly. I have a fairly new Sony XBR, a Dish Satellite DVR and a Sony Blu-Ray player.

My Sony has built-in software access to a number of online streaming sites through on-board Wi-Fi and my local network.

My question is: Is there any way to automate access to the Sony's streaming menu? As it is, I have to activate the Home menu, slide over various options to the Internet Content icon and then scroll up until I hit "Amazon Instant Video" for instance.

This of course all has to be done on amazingly small buttons aligned as close together as they possibly can be and without any tactile feedback whatsoever - can you hear my frustration? :slight_smile:

So anyway, is this the kind of linear navigation Roomie can record, or is there some way of writing a script to get me to the "Amazon Instant Video" screen, or maybe another solution?

Thank you,

Rick

Hi,

I have the same question (Sony BDP S5100).

There is a SOAP command for Netflix, but seemingly for nothing else?

Many thanks,
The Hoff

Their boxes vary as to what they actually provide commands for.

Specifically referring to their 2013 TV models however, we did just push new additions to the library tonight with specific buttons for Amazon Video, Netflix, and Hulu.

It is also possible of course to attach the command sequence you use to access such a service to a button if the box you're using does not provide a specific command.

2013

Hi. I am new to Roomie.

My problem is switching the TV Input to match what is playing. I have configured 2 activities, one to play from the DirecTV box and one to play from my AppleTV. All are being controlled via IP.

There does not seem to be a command available to go to Input 1 or Input 4 on the TV when that activity is selected. The only TV remote command I see is Input Toggle. How do I select a specific TV input for a specific activity? I have a Sony Bravia KDL-60EX720.

Thanks.

Mike

Sony TV IP control uses an input toggle. They offer explicit input selection via infrared.

Thank you.

Thanks. That answered my question.

I will get the IR hardware & App Package.

Mike

2013

Question: We're doing a number of things right now for DirecTV in a future release. As part of that, we're re-evaluating some items that have been around for a while. For DirecTV, we have provided a set of commands on the Virtual Remote labelled "NOREPEAT". The purpose of these was to force those buttons into a mode where it was impossible to repeat because due to a DirecTV software bug or hardware bug at the time, they would sometimes repeat too many times.

We have not heard from any users having that i...

We have not heard from any users having that issue in a very long time, and we do not see it in our DirecTV boxes on-site. So we're wondering if that issue is still extant or possibly was fixed by DirecTV via software updates.

If you do use today the NOREPEAT commands and know that you need them, please reply to this message or contact support with your DirecTV model number and any other comments you may have on that.

2013

Does anyone know if the serial driver for the VPL-VW1000ES will work with the VPL-HW30ES? I am switching from C4 to roomie in my theater room and cable I had pulled to the projector for IR control is broken. I was using Control4 over serial to the projector. Thanks.

Hello,

I upgraded to an HW30ES a few days ago. I plan to write the device for it if it truly doesn't exist already.

I have been away from Roomie support forums for a while because everything worked.

I did write a file for the VW60 that I previously had and all buttons worked but you had to wait a while between commands.... I guess something had to time out on the VW60 end... I don't think the commands were terminated correctly.

Anyways, the RS232 protocol manual is available for the HW30ES and I need to use my existing wifi2rs232 hardware.

I will start with just on and off... actually I think off still works from my VW60 profile. On and off is all I use... I use the actual pj remote for anything else... but, if it goes well, I will try to program the rest for the hell of it and also so Roomie can add it to comparable.

Should share the same profile with other pjs like HW15, HW50, HW55 and maybe VW90 and VW95...

Looking through the protocol manual available here...

ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebServices/ ... set-280049

Doesn't seem like they changed anything from the VW60 which I was able to write codes for. The VW100 also shared those codes... So, I don't know why it just didn't work from the start... I believe the Off command does already work but it may be turning itself off for some other reason like HDMI control but I did try to turn that off already.

We made a ton of improvements and changes to various Sony projector command sets in the December timeframe. We'd recommend trying the internal sets before resorting to custom devices. As these are generally supported devices, you could also contact support if you need a particular command that's missing or something needs to be corrected.

So,.. Are you saying they are supported via RS232?...

I know they work 100% with IR but I don't use any IR control.

Anyways, I have always used RS232 with my VW60 and looking through the protocol book above they haven't changed the commands.

I think all "I" need to do is turn off the standby "low" setting on my HW30. Because "off" was already working but you can't turn it "on" remotely when the standby is in it's more conservative setting.

There are two basic sets of codes for Sony Projectors. Our labels for them when you add devices are the VPL-VW100 and the VPL-VW1000ES IP. However, those sets work with many other models so it is worth trying those first. Sony rarely/never changes the actual codes. At most they add an input or a color temperature or iris command for a specific model.

Confirmed the codes work with my HW30ES.

I did have to change the...

2013

Question: In your compatibility chart, it stated, "Use free Sony Media Remote iOS app to register with the Sony BDP prior to use."

Do you have the exact name of the app In the app store? The apps posted by Sony corp. don't perform this registration. link link would be splendid!

Any idea when the series 10 blu ray players will be compatible?

Staff response: Just for posterity's sake, there are two related options: "Remote Start" and "Quick Start". "Quick Start" basically puts the device into sleep mode rather than powering it off. "Remote Start" refers to WOL. "Remote Start" is only available if "Quick Start" is also turned on.

Also, as of a few weeks ago, there was a firmware update that fixed the Youtube player. It hasn't crashed once on me since.

We just found an issue with the Series 10 players (3100, 5100) that prevented the new feedback for media identification from working. This will be fixed in Roomie 1.9 as all library updates are currently pending on 1.9 due to some architectural improvements. Note that Sony still only provides media identification and not play progress/time position feedback.

Thank you.

2013

Question: I just installed a new Sony 55 inch 4K TV XBR55X850A. I've been trying to get Roomie to power the TV on/off with custom buttons. I've set up three custom buttons, one with a power on command, another with power off command, and a third with power toggle command. The only one that works over IP is power off. I really want to be able to power on the TV if it's been turned off, but I can't seem to figure out how to do this. If the TV is off, it's like it isn't paying attention to the IP comma...

Staff response: Thanks for that information. This is what worked for me with the Sony KDL-65W850A... made sure I used a MAC without any punctuation just the letters and numbers of the Address for Sony TV. Also I added after +WAKE ON LAN, additional comment of POWER ON. This seems to work, I am not adding repeat of those commands to make sure they 100% of the time. Also cannot seem to add these commands to a series of commands, like turn on TV, Turn on OPPO, and Turn on Receiver and Goto Netflix. But this is huge step forward that all commands now can be in my iPad. Thanks for your help, Roomie.

2013

Question: Hi,

My Components:

Sony TV KDS-R60XBR2

iTach Wi-Fi to Infrared Adapter

FYI: The enter button for "All Sony TVs" seems to be programmed as a "Previous Channel" button.

So, I created my own device and programmed the IR codes via the original remote.

The keypad works correctly, I can type in "31.1 Enter" and the channel changes as expected.

But, when I use the TV Guide to click on the channel number nothing happens. No blue or red text appears above the remote to ...

Staff response: OK, so it seems that changing to the "Zero Prefix" switching style has fixed things.

I like the Roomie app but I think that the setup could be improved. Feels like I could have been prompted about the retransmit count if it is known that Sony devices have this issue. If I could have typed in the exact model of TV then the "Zero Prefix" switching style could have been picked for me.



I'm sure there are too many devices to accommodate . Perhaps some type of crowd sourced data collecting could be used to know what models of devices required which settings to be picked to get things working correctly.



Thanks for your time.

Brian.

2013

Question: I have a 4-year old 65" Sharp LCD television. Although it has an ethernet jack, i am sure that it is not ip controllable. I have been trying to control it with an iTach WF2IR.

The device is set up as ALL SHARP TV's using IR. There are no repeaters involved. Just the iTach blaster about 12 feet from the TV.

I only have a 1-in-3 chance of turning the TV on and off with the iTach. I've tried using the repeat codes command, and the slow-down command.

No luck. It is very hit or miss....

Staff response: I have the same TV. I've been pretty successful using the regular emitter affixed to the sensor port. I'm sure there's a reason you're using the blaster, but the emitters work if all else fails

Ports mentioned: 3

2013

Post:
I've only been tinkering with Roomie for a couple of days. I love how DTV works, it took a while but I finally got linked to my ATV 1. Feedback however is quite intermittent, and it appears I can only go forward and back, but no scroll or menu options.

Is this the best I can hope for or is there something more I can do? I love the iOS Remote app and would love to see similar functionality integrated.

Any options?

Post:
We have a FAQ on Apple TV here:

Roomie Remote Support

We're not sure what you mean by "feedback" on that as the Apple TV 1 has no feedback per the above FAQ, but all commands including MENU and others are supported via IR.

Post:
By feedback I mean the app displays track details and time information.

Post:
It sounds like you're talking about iTunes Control as that would be what displays media feedback. iTunes Control doesn't impact "forward" or "back" on an Apple TV though. iTunes simply takes over the Apple TV and does whatever it wants. If you want direct control over Apple TV, the above FAQ explains all that.

Post:
I saw this portion of the FAQ: "Another class of URLs that one might want to load using Roomie are app scheme URLs for other iOS applications."

Can this be done with the iOS Remote app? Might that be my best option?

Post:
We think Remote might support a remote:// URL scheme but we're really not sure. The best option today for direct AppleTV control is probably IR in our opinion. We have a FAQ on launching URL scheme apps though if you want to see if that is a workable path for you:

Local Network Control API (HTTP Command Interface)

2012

Post:
I am trying to setup ip controls for this device, but don't know the protocol.

I used wireshark to capture traffic to / from the Sony Blu Ray device. I monitored traffic from the sony media remote app. I have wireshark captures, which led me to discover 5 XML files that reside on the device. These files are called : AVTransportSCPD.xml, ConnectionManagerSCPD.xml, Ircc.xml, MediaRenderer.xml, and RenderingControlSCPD.xml. Would any of these assist in adding functionality to the app or making custom IP commands for a limited set of commands, such as power On and Play.

Post:
While there is a possibility you might be able to get some very basic control via some of those generic UPnP commands, it's also quite possible they will do nothing. There are a few tools on the net that run on desktop systems that would let you run some quick experiments to see whether any of those work.

The "actual" IP control mechanism for Google TV is unrelated to UPnP. It's an extremely heavyweight/overwrought protocol, but it generally offers what is needed. We haven't prioritized it yet as there isn't much deployment of Google TV, but we may do so if the landscape changes.

Post:
What tools would allow me to test? I am mostly looking for power on

Post:
Hi there, is there IP functionality available for this device? I've tried the Sony Media Player with manual IP using ports 50002/52323 but no luck. Any assistance would be helpful - thank you!

Post:
Merged with prior thread.

Google TV is pretty much the same beast that it was in our prior post. Usage of Google TV still seems to be very low and Google itself seems to have refocused to unrelated efforts like Chromecast which are not building on top of Google TV. We're still keeping an eye on Google TV as a future addition but have no plans to announce at this time.

2012

**It appears my Sony (NX720) does not appear to support Power ON over IPTV... yet. However, does should I be able to Power this TV off using IPTV and Roomie. I just downloaded Roomie and the System Off/Power off commands are not working for me.

**Same here thing but TV is EX720. Power toggle or Power off commands doesnt turn off TV.

**This is as noted in the IP compatibility sheet. Sony TVs do not support Power via IP.

Device Compatibility

We list many models of TVs there that do support full IP control.

**I have watch your compatibility list before i bought your app "Hardware does not support Power ON via IP" doesn't say anything about Power off commands and Power on is not supported because it doesn't support WOL but after its on it should understand BASIC commands.

**Yes, after the TV is on, basic commands like the digits and cursor keys will work. Generally, given the power issue with Sony, you would first hook up infrared control.

**Sony's 2012 models (at least HX850) can be turned off via IP. So if u can get it on by HDMI CEC like old models (2011) you dont need to keep old remote on table anymore for turning devices off. You shoud put that in your compatibility list like you did with Panasonic VT50.

2012

**There is a setting in the menus of the player to enable Power On via IP. It's usually called Network Standby or QuickStart. If that is off (which it often is by default), the player will not turn on via IP.

**I have the same problem with the BDP-S590 powering up over IP. Even with the 'Remote Start' set to ON it doesn't power up. I've had to set up a power on command through an Itach IP to IR using a blaster.

regards

Nick

**Yes, the power commands do nothing. That model requires Wake on LAN:

Roomie Remote Support

**Still working with this...From the compatibility chart:

"Use free Sony Media Remote iOS app to register with the Sony BDP prior to use."

I'm not sure how the app helps Roomie Power On the BDP

I downloaded the app, got the Blu-Ray registered, the Sony remote works..my phone shows up in the Sony settings...still can't get the BDP-S590 to power on. After I turn the BDP on with the Sony remote it will connect to Roomie (about 30 sec) and operate perfectly...but can't get it to power on. I'm using Wake On LAN too... I LOVE this amazing remote and this is my only holdback. I'm hoping there's a workaround or something else I'm missing?

**Please reference our last 2 messages in the following thread that resolved the confusion with this player when using Wi-Fi:

configuration-and-setup-archives/sony-bdp-s590-blu-ray-power-on-problems-t8706.html

2012

**I've been tring out roomie and like it quite a bit. I have my denon avr-2112ci working great.

However, I can't get my Sony bdp-s580 to work at all. It's on the network and I'm able to use the media control app on iPad and iPhone just fine. I went through all of the troubleshooting tips and none of them solved it. I have quick start enabled.

any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

**There are two different port numbers listed here for that:

Device Compatibility

While selecting the Series 8 command set, we recommend trying to add the device via Manual IP on both 50001 and 52323 per above. Some of the 580s seem to use the other port.

**Sorry to be dense, but what is the difference between series 7,8,9? That was something I was confused by when setting up initially.

I'll try setting up manually later today. Thanks for the tip.

**The series number for Sony is the second digit. In your case, "8".

**Thanks. I selected series 8 and it worked. Thought I tried that before, but maybe there was another issue at that time. No need to manually set up thankfully.

Only thing not working via IP is power on, but it sounds like that is a known limitation. Does power on work with wifi2IR?

thanks for the help.

**Power On with the 580 is infrared only yes.

2012

Hoi,

I'm trying to add my Sony Bravia TV through the iTach-controller, but when I add a device, select the iTach and channel, the screens shows: Type "Sony TV" (All Models All Types) but the Remote shows a Samsung-remote!?

The TV is not responding to any command (probably due to Samsung-commands). The iTach is receiving the commands because the light flashes on the iTach and emitter.

How can I fix this?

The Original Remote image simply provides a pleasing image. We default that to off, but if you choose the Samsung image remote when adding the device, that's what you will see. This is explained in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

The Sony TV issue is almost certainly the issue that happens with all Sony TVs that we discuss in the FAQ with solution here:

Diagnostics

2012

Question: I'm relatively new to Roomie, but I believe I've tried everything possible and am stumped. I purchased to IR2IP devices, one for a bedroom and another for my living room. I have two "Rooms" setup in Roomie accordingly.

For background information, in the bedroom, I have an Apple TV (v3 - 1080p) that is being controlled via one of the individual IR transmitters (not IR blaster). I also have a Samsung DVD player and TV on the other ports, all configured as individual IR transmitters. I hav...

Staff response: Yes, the Original Remote button mismatch for that command is a bug. If you need it fixed, we can send you a command set for it from support. It will also be fixed shortly in the general library. For now the Virtual Remote works well.

Thanks, I'd appreciate the command set. When you say "fixed shortly in the general library", does this mean it will come down with a new App update of Roomie or something else?

2012

I'm evaluating the basic Roomie remote and want to try it out with a Samsung ES7500F TV and Motorola DCX3200-M cable box used to access Cox cable. I know the Samsung does not support WOL, but is there any way to control the cable box via IP (and without buying an iTach)?

I know eventually I'll have to spring for an iTach, but I want to make sure Roomie can do what I want, before I buy the iTach.

If Roomie can't control the cable box without an iTach IP2IR, how would you recommend evaluating Roomie's control over the TV?

The DCX3200 does not support IP control. Both of those devices are best controlled via Infrared.

Thanks. I have a couple of follow-up questions.

1. When you say "both," I assume you mean the TV too. This presents a problem because my cable box, AV receiver, blu-ray and other devices are in a media cabinet behind the TV, and it opens at a right angle to the left of the TV. I'm planning on buying an iTach and trying to use the IR blaster to bounce off a wall about 3.5 ft opposite the media cabinet to control all the IR devices. But I don't think the TV will "see" this signal. The Samsung 7500 series has its IR sensor at the top, near a camera lens. So I'm reluctant to put an emitter there, both for aesthetic and for practical reasons (it may interfere with the camera). So I was hoping to control the TV via IP, except for turning it on. From your answer, I get the impression this may be a bad idea. Is it?

2. I'd like to evaluate Roomie before shelling out $100 for an IP2IR iTach ( for 2 rooms) and $9 for the Infrared Pack. Is there any suggested way to evaluate it for controlling TV viewing using just the Base Roomie software?

(P.S. By the time I'll be done, I'm looking at 2 IP2IR's, the Infrared Pack, the Home Theater Pack ($19.99), two iPad minis (we intend to use them as our intelligent remotes), and possibly 2 IP2SL's plus serial cables if we decide we want to turn on the TV's using Roomie. So before I go down this path, I really want to make sure it's the right path for my household.)

We would generally advise IR for a Samsung TV. Serial is generally overkill for that as Samsung doesn't provide any useful feedback via Serial.

Yes, Roomie will control that Samsung model via IP, but not for power as you noted.

I have been evaluating the setup you describe above except my cable box is for time warner and I'm using a yamaha aventage receiver for audio. I am trying to gain confidence in the system as well before purchasing the $100 itach. Since my equipment is so similar, I thought jumping in on this thread might be the best way to ask my question.

Both TV and receiver were found by roomie. So far the receiver remote is working without problems. The samsung tv remote works for the most part, however, there seems to be a bit of a problem with the TV input select commands. The input select commands listed in this remote don't all apply to this TV. For example, there is only one component vid...

2012

Can this system be accessed by IP?

Thanks...

Can this be controlled with the itach?

I have been researching this a bit and apparently the C31 client can be controlled through the HR34 via IP. The command would be something like IPAddress:port/tv/tune?major=206&clientAddr=1 where the major=206 would tune to channel 206 and clientAddr is in relation to the C31 client 1-3.

satinstalltraining.com/homea ... V1.3.C.pdf

We have a test command set available for testing for the DirecTV Genie clients. If all goes well, we'll publish this in the next library update.

I just saw that DirecTV's own iOS app now allows direct control of the C31. Since we have 3 of these I too hope Roomie supports it. Thanks guys

This is part of 1.8. They did some funky stuff so it can't just be issued as a command set in a library update. 1.8 auto-recognizes and controls them all though.

I installed the DirecTV Genie and all the commands are working fine except the "Power Toggle" when turning the device on within an activity. I can turn it on/off with the virtual remote, is there something I am missing?

How to get Roomie Remote to control a specific DirecTV Box? (1 of 4 direct tv boxes).

For the HR34, it is controlled directly via IP right now. C31 Genie Clients are a separate topic. They require special commands and that's part of 1.8.

Turning the power on via IP is a bit touchy with DirecTV. This thread notes some settings you may want to change to enable that:

configuration-and-setup-archives/directv-hr24-roomie-commands-t8730.html

2012

Hello all,

Roomie remote is able to find the TV and to manage most of the options (not GUIDE button) but not able to wake it on lan, i readed all the related FAQ and posts, i also tried entering the MAC address manually but doesn't work.



I can't find any WAKE on LAN option into the VT50 menu, only 'viera link" options.



Can somebody please help me?



thanks in advance

You don't need to enter the MAC address manually. Roomie's auto-detection handles that for you. You do need to add the +WAKE ON LAN command to your Start Activity commands however. Also, Wake on LAN must be turned on in the menus on the TV.

thanks for your response but i did it and doesn't work, also no "wake on lan" option into the TV menu.



Can you please help me with more info?

Perhaps your model is a regional variation. How and where exactly did you buy that unit? The Wake on LAN option appears in the menu of the TV (we have a VT50 right here). Have you checked for firmware updates?

Hi.

I have a VT50 from Panasonic too. I don't have a wake on lan function in the menu. Bought the TV in germany.

Perhaps some of the European models could be missing that feature. Seems like a strange thing to remove, but we have seen a lot of strange feature removals with all the CostCo models, etc.

after some searching on the web looks like the european versions of VT50 comes with WOL option disabled, thanks panasonic!!

Is amazing we spend a lot of money in one of the best plasma TV of the market and they reduce drastically the TV posibilities with this stupid movements.



Anyway, do you know if shoul be possible to Startup the TV from any other way, by example emulating the Viera-Link commands?



my configuration at this moment is a Denon-3313 and the P65VT50

In general the best luck for VIERA Link is likely to be with an Onkyo receiver which at least has explicit commands to do things like turn on a connected TV. You may find that the Denon 3313 can also be made to work. It can be a little haphazard with things turning on or off unexpectedly to rely on HDMI CEC. We recommend IR control for the TV if Wake on LAN is not implemented in that variation.

2012

Has anyone tried controlling Samsung TVs via the ex-link port?

I have an 2-3 year old LCD (LN52A750) which powers off its ethernet port. I'm able to control it via Roomie's IR support, but I can't find a suitable place to mount the transmitter. It doesn't seem to work even attached to the front of the TV (which I'd rather avoid), but only if I hold it 6" to 1' in front of the TV.

I experimented with the EX-Link port tonight and it looks promising. I built a quick serial-to-headphone jack cable, and it was able to control it via the PC. A post on the RemoteCentral forums sent me to this PDF, which lists the 7-byte control codes:

akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Manual ... 50A650.PDF

The Power On, Power Off, and HDMI input commands all seem to work fine via serial... Has anyone else gotten this working with Roomie? I'm tempted to get an IP2SL to keep digging further, but was wondering if anyone else has tried it? I'm surprised Samsung isn't on the serial compatibility list.

Just be aware that EX-Link for Power On when the unit is off may not work with models before around 2009 or 2010. See this thread:

remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mb ... gi?19083,3

We have an appropriate pre-made cable for that listed here:

astore.amazon.com/cyphersoft-20? ... F8&node=13

We've put the command set into this week's library update.

IR or Anynet+ therefore remains a safer bet if you're not sure your model supports power via EX-Link. However, of course, if your model is one of the generally more recent models that do, and you get the right cable, it's a great way to control a Samsung set without adding an emitter to the front or cracking open the case and inserting an emitter directly against the eye.

Thanks! I got it working today with the IP2SL.

One problem I did have... I wasted over an hour figuring out that either Roomie either doesn't configure the baud rate or configures the wrong one. Once I logged in to the IP2SL's web interface and changed it to 9600, it's working great. It would be nice to fix this or document it somewhere.

You're right, we should either put the baud rate in the compatibility sheet and emphasize setting it or force the IP2SL to the baud rate via software.

2012

Question: I just received my WF2IR and have it working with my Sony BRay and Denon AVR receiver just fine. I can't get it to control the AppleTV however. All the gear is in the same location, so it's not the blaster. I tried an emitter on port 2 as well - no go. Oddly, the light on the AppleTv blinks when I press "menu" on the roomie remote, but nothing updates on screen. I've also tried upping the retransmit count to 2,3,3,4,5 with no luck. Commands are appearing in blue as well. Also just updated...

Staff response: I had a similar problem that was somewhat fixed by un pairing. However, the select button doesn't work and I get an audible feedback bleep when I push select How can I fix this?

2012

I like the DVR management through the Xfinity App better than launching http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/tv-listings in a web browser so I started looking at the xfinitytv.ipa and found the url handler.

Install the Comcast Xfinity TV Remote via itunes and configure

Create a new activity or place in an existing, you can even make it one of your startup commands

Edit/add new activity, select add command

choose url, click url and enter: xfinitytv://

in the opens box, select "in safari"

save your changes
viola,

Tim

same can be done with the paid plex app in the app store if you have a plex media server that you want to control in something other than the remote or your web browser. The paid app is much quicker than the web experience and you can set it to play on your media server by default instead of your local device (ipad or iphone). The magic url is:

plexapp://

Tim

Anyone know if there is a custom URL for the Time Warner app?

dshollis - I was unable to launch the twc tv app

2012

Just starting & waiting on IR2WF to arrive. Already downloaded all your available software. Meanwhile several questions. Question # 1) 2010 Samsung TV UN46C8000XF with "internet@TV". Your compatibility tab sounds like the TV may be supported for 2 way IP control. How would I get that enabled (or can I) with Roomie? The TV is currently set up on the internet with Samsungs' internet@TV enabled. I'd prefer to control the TV over IP (not with IR emitters). Question #2 a, b & c) Denon AVR 887. Theres no ethernet connector, however there are 1 each "Remote In/Out Room to Room" 1/8 mini jack receptacles. I've researched some on the net that the receptacles can be used for IR control signals but there seems to be confusion/uncertainty as to being stereo or mono mini receptacles and if it proprietary codes. I see you have a RS232 to 1/8 mini jack adaptor. Will that work (without smoking my Denon rig)? If so, do you then have the code(s) and support if I get the WF2SL device? Or am I stuck with using IR flashers and my IR2WF for the AVR887? Would you consider WF2SL support for the 887 if you don't currently?
Thanks,
Jay

On the Denon AVR 887 Would using the IR2WF I ordered with a mini jack to “Remote In Room to Room” 1/8 mini jack receptacle in place of an IR emitter set up work? Would it be a mono or stereo mini jack at the AVR 887 receptacle then?

IR jacks are generally mono if they're standard jacks. A mono-mono cable would be like the one on this page:

astore.amazon.com/cyphersoft-20? ... TF8&node=9

Remember with Samsung IP control that their TVs turn off the network interface when they're physically off. In recent years, their serial EX-Link interface does stay on however. So the options with Samsung are IR (usually the simplest and best choice), IP with some combination of Anynet+ devices that works for you, and Serial if your unit supports it.

2012

Hello,

I have a question i got some codes:


'1': '0xE0E020DF' how can i use this as ir code in roomie?

BR Jurgen

That's a manufacturer specific number not useful in a generalized IR context. What you would need is either Pronto-style codes or, though this method can be extremely time consuming, you could also get raw IR formatting information such as used by MakeHex. Pronto codes will paste directly into Roomie whereas raw formatting info requires significant work on your part to translate, but it can be done whereas the number you give there is just not convertible.

How do I "paste pronto codes directly into Roomie".

The DDK has templates for that:

Roomie Remote Support

2012

I have chosen Sony All models and very few buttons work, such as volume up/down and channel up/down. Most other buttons do not work.
Anyone else got this working?

Sony TVs need a Retransmit Count of at least 2, sometimes even higher. We have an IR diagnosis FAQ here with additional tips:

Diagnostics

I've tried to increase the re-transmit count, but since the volume buttons are working I suspect something is wrong with the codes.

This evening it does seem somewhat better. I'm trying repeat counts 2 and 3, but none of the two are perfect. Like for changing volume... you can see that it jumps 1-3 steps for every 'click'. On the other hand, if I don't use repeats I won't get mute or other features working...

2012

Projectors

Users discussed setup and control configuration for the Epson TW9400 projector integration with Roomie Remote.

2024

I currently have the device set up with an IR blaster. I have been having some difficulties because it does not have discreet on / off commands. So I read that IP control is available for the on/off commands.

I have hard wired the projector to my LAN. It has an established IP address and I have turned on the Control4 setting as I had read in other threads. However when I search for a new device to add in the Roomie app it does not appear. And when I try to enter it manually via IP address it also does not work.

Can anyone talk me through the steps of how to make this work?

Staff response: Looks like a duplicate of this thread:

The important piece is verifying the port it uses. Many tools available for that including one just a few threads back.

2024

Question: I have been facing challenge controlling my JVC NZ800. I have tried Force Code Set Update, set the password on JVC to “PASSWORD10”, and added the JVC as a device with the new category “D-ILA IP Auth”, but still not able to control it.

I heard the new NZ800/900 use encrypted sha256 string. Does that mean the Password needs to be converted into sha256 rather than a plaint text?

Staff response: Looks like yet another protocol change from them. Here is a codeset that uses PASSWORD10 concatenated with JVCKWPJ and then SHA-256 encoded. So, stick with PASSWORD10.

Feel free to edit this codeset and import it with your own encoded password if you like.
JVC-Projector-PASSWORD10Hashed.plist|attachment (15.7 KB)

As per the previous post, you can feel free to edit the codeset to your liking including changing the password. This issue does not apply to the breadth of Epson projectors so I can't really say what your issue might be. However, it's safe to say the forum is not somewhere that we can dig into anything like this anyway so feel free to send the log snippets to support to make sure you're sending what you think you're sending.

2024

Discussion about coordinating Zidoo Z9X Pro media player control with JVC equipment power management through Roomie Remote activities.

2023

Request: User needed more than 3 lens memory options in the default JVC projector profile. JVC projectors can save many more memory settings (user needed 6 on their scope screen), and iRule had supported 16 lens control options.

Solution: Create a Custom Code Set with brand "JVC", category "Projector", and type "Supplemental"
- Add custom commands for additional lens memory recall functions
- Command format uses escaped hex codes
- Example format: <key>LENS MEMORY RECALL 1</key><string>\x21\x89\x01\x49\x4E\x4D\x4C\x30\x0A</string>
- Paste the hex codes (without the backslash escaping if copying directly into Roomie)
- No additional subscription level required for custom commands

Built-in Profile Updates: Staff confirmed that additional lens memory options would be added to the official JVC projector profile in May release (mentioned in post #5).

Subscription: Base level subscription plan supports custom command additions.

2022

Anyone have any success controlling an Epson 3800 4K projector? I tried the recommended port 4352, using both the "All Projectors" and the "pjtalk" options. No joy. Notwithstanding the recommendation, the projector has five (5) open ports:
* 80
* 3620 (ep-pcp) aka "Epson projector control"
* 3621 (ep-nsp) aka "Epson network screen port"
* 3629 (escvpnet), and
* 5357 (wsdapi) "Web services for devices API"

I tried all of these, using both options, to no effect. However I DID prove the projector is controllable over TCP/IP, using Epson's own Projector Control app on the iPhone.

TIA.

Staff response: Again, as noted in the stickies all over the forum, it is very unlikely that the right path here is posting to the forum. Meanwhile, this kind of thing is trivial to resolve via support ticket.

Glancing at the Epson page, I don't even see an Ethernet port on the spec list:

https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Home-Cinema/Home-Cinema-3800-4K-PRO-UHD-3-Chip-Projector-with-HDR/p/V11H959020

What is the network interface you're trying to use? If you hadn't port-scanned it, the spec page makes it sound like a serial-only model. Serial is probably going to be the best control method for that unit anyway.

You've gotten people gun shy over the years by consistently jumping on them for posting or reporting in the wrong place. I've developed a simple algorithm, which I certainly can revise: If it appears that your software is screwing up, I'll put in a support request via the app. If it appears that it is something that I don't understand, I'll ask fellow users first. Finally, if there is a specific sticky post that exhaustively lists what types of issues should be raised where, I'd happily receive a pointer to it.

Now, to advance the conversation: The Epson 3800, which I bought to use while I am waiting for my JVC DLA-NZ8, has a WiFi dongle accessory from Epson, specifically for their projectors that don't have RJ-45 Ethernet ports. The firmware/menus on the projector have an entire section to set up this as the TCP/IP interface to the projector. I set this dongle up easily, and did a port scan when the recommended port in your compatibility list didn't work.

Although the main focus of this projector's WiFi interface is for users to directly stream content to the projector from PC's or handheld devices (there is an app for that), it also specifically says in the datasheet and the documentation that the interface can be used for control, as well. My post reported my failed attempts to take control, notwithstanding Epson's statements, except with Epson's own iOS app.

Finally, I concluded that one of the reasons that Roomie did not accommodate this fairly recent projector is that you had never seen it. I also assumed that if your interest were piqued, you'd follow up. However, to keep my interface attempts moving along, I immediately purchased for 2nd-day delivery a Global Cache iTach Ethernet to RS232 interface, since the only conceivable purpose of this ancient technology on a modern device was for legacy control systems. I received the iTach device yesterday.

Last night, I successfully trained Roomie and the IP-to-serial Global Cache serial interface to fully control this projector, using the serial and "All Models" options in Roomie. Because of your outstandingly well thought out software design, it was an effortless process, and I have full control via RS232.

So, I no longer have a pressing need to discover why this model resisted IP control. Just a curiosity remains. I'll gladly expose the projector on the Internet, if you want to poke at it, or try out any code you might gen up. Just let me know by PM. Otherwise, I'm a happy camper.

Thanks for the fast response.

2022

I use two different lens aperture settings on my JVC projector (2.35:1 screen, Panamorph lens) depending on if I am using 2.35 width or 16:9.

The built in command set for JVC devices includes an Aperture command, but I don't see any way to input a numeric value. The projector accepts values from 0,-1.-2,... through -15.

Maybe I am missing something. I would like to be able to send custom values to the projector with my commands to change viewing aspect ratios.

2019

Hey,
I just bought a simple blaster & serial cable to better control my BenQ w1070
but when I went to add the projector.. I noticed that you only have commands for the BenQ w7000 projector.
I gave it a shot and it works for turning on/off of the projector but it does not have options for changing sources.
How do I go about programming a source button to change HDMI inputs in simple control with a projector that's being controlled thru a serial cable?

Staff response: This kind of request (and all similar requests) should be sent to support. They can help get the commands you need added to either the actual library or a custom code set.

2017

Hi, Just wondering if this projector could be looked into an perhaps added for IP control.
I have have tried whats currently programmed in the system but unfortunately nothing.
I know things are busy with the new version being released, but if this could be looked into that would be great. Or if anyone has got it working via IP, if you could share how it was done.
Unfortunately I have no experience in creating a custom file, so I would have no idea how to go about.
Anyway thanks for a great product

Hey,
I have the Epson 5040ub and IP control works perfectly..
I'm not in front of my projector now but I know you have to go into it's settings and turn on Control 4 and theres another setting that needs to be turned on I believe..im sure you can find it by googling your projector model and ipcontrol.
Once in Simple you have to manually add it as an Epson Projector LS10000 I believe and set it to port 4352..
Hope this helps you out.

Thankyou so much! The control 4 setting did it.
Appreciate your reply. I can now power on and the projector via IP! This is awesome
Now you wouldn't happen to know by any chance how to add a couple more commands would you?
Specifically being some memory settings?

I have the 5040ub as well, working great with the LS1000 setup over IP. I also would love to know how to add additional commands, for example how to trigger lens memory1 and lens memory 2 to switch between 2.35:1 and 16:9 content. That's the only thing keeping the IR remote around, is that possible via DDK or some other way?

I believe it is possible via the ddk, I just have no idea how to add them

Yeah it has basic IP control for anything else you'd have to control it thru IR.

2017

I just started the setup of my Roomie remote but the issue I am running into it (well a few issues) but this one is that my projector Benq W1080ST requires two presses of the power off button to power off the projector. I am not sure where in the Roomie software to send two power off commands when turning off the system for any activity using the Benq W10800ST projector. If anyone can be assistance it would be appreciated. Thank you.

I have the same question about my Benq W1070ST....which i suspect is identical to the W1080 as far as codes go.

Very common for projectors. Just edit your System Off Activity and add another POWER OFF to the Commands list with the appropriate Delay Next Command on the first POWER OFF to replicate the delay from a physical remote.

2015

Hi - Currently you have JVC Projector codes for lense memory listed here:

devices-and-codes-archives/add-new-ip-rs232-codes-for-jvc-projector-dla-lens-memory-f-t9205.html

The problem for lens memory using these codes is that the projector keeps up the lens focus pattern which is really annoying when changing lens memory.

These codes below are the correct codes to change lens memory without the lens focus patterns which makes for a much nicer transition - Could you please add them to the database for JVC X30/X35 and above?

Lens Memory 1 (X30/X70/X90/RS45/55/65) 21 89 01 52 43 37 33 44 38 0A D8

Lens Memory 2 (X30/X70/X90/RS45/55/65) 21 89 01 52 43 37 33 44 39 0A D9

Lens Memory 3 (X30/X70/X90/RS45/55/65) 21 89 01 52 43 37 33 44 41 0A DA

As an FYI - These codes are on page 11 of this doc: support.jvc.com/consumer/support ... lGuide.pdf

Thanks!

2014

I have a stable system currently working with a large flat screen as my primary viewing device. I have multiple devices sending through my AV processor. I will continue to use that flat screen as my daily viewer. Am using ir to control processor for switching between devices. Powering devices and controlling them via ir or ip. On occasions when I want to use the projector and screen instead is my new challenge. My processor has two switchable HDMI outputs. All inputs are through this processor, audio and video. Is there an efficient way to use my current setup and run a secondary command set to change the processor HDMI output, turn on projector, lower screen OR should I set up and entirely new set of commands for watching Directv, Apple TV and Bluray. If i do that my Roomie screen gets really busy. Looking for advice as to the cleanest, most efficient way to switch from flat screen to projector and still maintain good control over all inputs. I am using a combination of ir and ip commands depending on various components capability. Any advice will be appreciated.

My system is a plasma monitor and projector. I choose to create a second room for the projector. As my AV processor does not have a second HDMI port, I added an HDMI splitter that does not switch the output, i.e. the output is sent to both displays. The dropdown screen is controlled when the projector turns on/off. The only thing Roomie needs to do is turn on the correct display when in using that room. It also keeps the list of activities short and specific to each room. The only issue is that if a change is made it usually needs to be entered twice.

A lot of features have been added since I first set this up. You may not have to create everything twice now.

Hope this helps.

We have two seriously complex test rooms that use both a TV and Projector and it works great combined into the same Roomie room. For a while, we were indeed recommending setting such things up as two rooms as the best practice, but the addition of Activity Modes and Activity Conditions makes this quite workable as one room now.

The typical recommended setup now for that is two Toggle Mode Activities, "Projector" and "TV" for instance. The state of those Activities is then set as an Activity Condition for any command in any other Activity if the command is specific to one or the other mode.

I have not tried Toggle Mode Activities. What does the user experience?

My system has to "just work" and change is always difficult. Recently, switched from satellite to OTA television. I needed to keep the OTA activity selection in the same place as the satellite activity was on the screen. As well as the remote design needed to be similar.

2014

Controlling an Epson 5010 with iTach IP2SL. Everything works great except switching to the cinema color mode. According to epson documentation the command is CMODE 15. This is also applicable to the other popular epson models. Please add to future update. I

Keep up the good work!





List of Epson serial commands.

epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/supp ... d=63091961

I was able to add the custom command using the DDK. Very nice feature.

It's also important to use delays as it takes the projector 1-2 seconds to switch color modes andseems to ignore other commands while executing this one. For example switching to cinema mode and then setting the power mode to low.

We've added that to the next library update. Thanks.

2013

Hi,

I think that the power on via IP function is now broken on JVC projectors X35/55/75/95.

The fucntion was ok few months ago but now it's now broken.

i don't know why but another user laurie has the same problem.

More informations here : devices-and-codes-archives/add-new-ip-rs232-codes-for-jvc-projector-dla-lens-memory-f-t9205.html

Best regards
Eric

There have been no changes to those codes. It's not the kind of thing that would be on the Roomie side anyway. More likely, there is a setting that needs to be flipped on the projector just like receivers:

Roomie Remote Support

You would want to contact JVC support if you can't find such a setting as power via IP does work for many JVC projector users with Roomie.

Thank you.

Yes you're right Roomie !

Deactivating the eco mode on the projector solve the problem.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards
Eric

2013

Question: Hello,

It could be great if you could add to your database new IP/RS232 codes for JVC projectors X30/X70/X90/RS45/55/65/X35/X55/X75/X95.

I need codes to use the lens memory function.

The JVC document is here : support.jvc.com/consumer/support ... lGuide.pdf

Command :
Lens Memory - Cycles through Lens Memory
Pages: Select/Save/Name Edit
Hex Code : 21 89 01 52 43 37 33 44 34 0A
ASCII : D4
...

Staff response: Perfect thanks Eric that fixed it right away!



you don't have a iP solution for powering on the Oppo player via iP?

2013

Receivers & Preamps

Question: I am on the market for a new receiver and plan on replacing my Marantz with ARCAM AVR11. Are ARCAM receivers compatible with Roomie? I see some topics on the forum, but ARCAM is not listed on the compatibility page on the website. Looking to verify Roomie can control AND display volume/power/input/sound mode for both zone 1 AND zone 2 before I purchase the receiver.

Thanks!

Staff response: I see a couple of code sets for it. They are labelled "AVR8X0/550/390/250" and "AVP888". These code sets are control sets, so you should be able to do anything control related with no feedback displays. However, since I don't know that model number, whether control works is very likely but possibly not.

Nothing is tracked in the forums except for things like explicitly labelled polls. If you tried each codeset I named, and they didn't work, please let us know via the ticket system and tell us what happened exactly with each. It sounds like you're not saying they didn't work, but you want additional features, it's not clear. Also, if you have a feature request, the ticket system is how that gets tracked.

2023

Question: Hi

Does anyone have any experience using Roomie Remote with either the Marantz AV8805A or Yamaha CX-A5200B surround processors? The compatibility list generally shows compatibility with most Marantz and Yamaha receivers, so I assume the command protocol for their surround processors would be pretty much the same as they are basically like high-end receivers without the amps built in (assuming also the feedback display for volume, mode, etc. would work too). I need to replace my old Pio Elite SC...

Staff response: The Compatibility list clearly includes such models. We used to specify by model many years ago and that's just a waste of time now as every model is compatible for many, many years, certainly from those brands anyway.

2022

I’m trying to set up a McIntosh MA252 for use with my iTach IR emitter.

Since there is no category for “Amplifiers”, the next closest category is “Receivers” (I’ve had luck in this category for other brands of amps).

While The MA252 (which is an integrated amp) is not listed, there are a few other MA-series IAs listed, so I tried one of those as a start.

There’s not much to do with this component...On/Off, Volume Up/Down, Mute, Input and “Trim” (Balance, Bass, Treble), Left, Right, Up, Down.

I was able to get volume & mute working well. There are only 4 total inputs, and the McIntosh HR091 remote only allows you to step trough the inputs, not explicitly select one. I didn’t see an “Input Toggle” command, so not sure how to implement that.

Power unfortunately appears to only be a toggle versus explicit on/off; otherwise that works fine.

I also haven’t figured out how to configure getting into “Trim” mode, but once there Up/Down/Left/Right in the command list will probably work.

Any suggestions on how to move forward with this device?

For any device ive had trouble getting the codes for via Roomie or |Global cache direct ive use the learn command via roomie and just copied them from the remote. never had any trouble with it at all

2021

I have a new Rotel RSP-1576 that is not on the compatibility list. The manual states that this Pre/Pro can use IP Control. (It has codes for Control4 on their website.)

My brief reading tells me that I need to create a plist on a MAC using BBEDIT or Xcode from the DDK. (And I don't own a MAC.) But I'm not sure this is correct.

Any assistance/advice would be appreciated.

I guess I could glue an IR emitter on the front of my brand new Pre/Pro and go from there, (the old fashioned way,) but I would rather use IP control. If someone knows whether this IR approach will in the long run be the easier and more effective method, I would appreciate knowing that as well.

I can answer my own question. On the back of the Rotel is a 3.5mm "remote in" plug. Just get a 3.5mm cable, plug one end in to the "remote in" on the back of the Rotel and the other end in to the iTach device, and there you go. Oh, and get the IR "Model" codes for the last one listed, so it will have all the different options on your remote.

2019

Question: It would be great to add support of Marantz (HEOS/IP Models) media and tuner feedback. I would assume this is relatively easy since Denon receivers have a similar API and already have this feedback feature supported. Thanks!

Staff response: There is no difference between Marantz and Denon. You can add HEOS manually, see Compatibility page.

HEOS is where all the feedback for music services is these days on those units. It sounds like you're talking about the old stuff from 2009 that it replaced.

2019

I have a Denon AVR-X3300 that I control via IP using Simple Control. It all works great except for one thing. I cannot find a way to select Airplay as a source for zone 2. In fact, I cannot find a way to select Airplay for zone 2 even from the factory remote! The only way I can select Airplay for zone 2 is from the front panel by pushing the "Zone 2 Source" button repeatedly until it selects Airplay. Has anyone figured this out? There must be a way to do this.

2018

Question: I was hoping someone had any insight on controlling the ps4 since the new pdp adaptor is finally out? I have it set up and have tried several options (ps2, logitech adaptor for ps3, etc.), but can't get it to respond to the ps4.

I used to use it back on the ps3 with harmony's old adaptor, but it looks like their's not a default ir code setting for the ps4 yet?

btw, i opened a trouble ticket on the subject as well.

Staff response: Sounds like you're talking about an infrared device. Why not just learn the codes with the learning functionality?

You called it an IR receiver in your title so I assume that's what you mean.

We will be adding a codeset for this soon. It seems to be working fine. I have not yet found a way to cause it to perform a discrete power off – the Harmony does not seem to support that and/or the PDP device doesn't support it. Possibly just haven't found it yet. In any case, we'll add a codeset to the library for it soon. If it doesn't have an actual power off, it does respond to PS, up, multiple right, in order to get to the power off button on screen.

Ideally, we'd add this via a generated code list from the manufacturer, but regardless the codes are easy to learn not an uncommon IR protocol so there's no risk. We'll update it later if any more codes exist in the event the manufacturer sends information.

This codeset is now live in production for V5 (along with several thousands other codeset updates as part of regular deployment). Type Game System, brand PDP.

It can take up to 24 hours for all devices to recognize new code sets.

We already have the PS button in the published set, and you can always repeat it to hold it down. Regardless, if you want to experiment, that code you pasted is just a Pronto code so we support it without modification.

MENU MAIN is always the primary command for that, similarly across many devices.

2018

Question: Hello,

i need IP-Codes for my Yamaha Receiver via IP-Control for:
Trigger 2 hi / lo

I come from iRule and solved it there with:
@SYS:TRIG2MANUAL=Hi\\x0D\\x0A
@SYS:TRIG2MANUAL=Lo\\x0D\\x0A

Any ideas for me?

Staff response:

Zone 2 is added as its own device, it has many zone-specific codes.

2018

Volume only goes up in half increments when pressing up or down (shows full increments on simple control screen but only half on receiver).

After a few seconds simple control gets feed back and then shows correct.

Using slider works correct.

I also have an NR616 and it works correct.

Setup using IP control as Onkyo All Models zone 1

Staff response: Would be a good idea to contact support to make sure this is either some misconfiguration or fixed in V5.

2017

Hi -

After many years of using SimpleControl/Roomie, I'm stumped.

I just got a new AVR-X2400H (https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater/receivers/avrx2400h)

Using the old Manual IP + "AVR IP Zone 1" trick doesn't seem to work any longer (this is a really newly-released receiver, so I don't know if they've changed something).

When I pick the auto-detected AVR-X2400H and try the Test Remote, I get a message saying that "Authentication hasn't been set up". Unfortunately, I have no idea what authentication is desired.

Any ideas out there?

I'm wondering if I need to get on the beta for version 5 - it looks that has added more support for the Denon "H" models.

I was thinking of upgrading my Onkyo, but I don't have a Denon yet. Anyway, I remember seeing this:

You can add the Denon as a receiver and as a media player (I did add them both). When you add it as a mediaplayer, you have to enter your HEOS account as username and password.

2017

I have a new Denon AVR-E300 that seems to be having IP control issues. It will work fine for approximately 20 hours and then stop responding to IP control (network stack on the Denon is still running as it pings fine and the built-in network test works fine). The only solution is to pull the power from the Denon and leave it off for about a minute. It will work again for about a day and then quit. I have a 9-year old Denon 3808CI that doesn't have this issue, so it's not Denon in general.

I'm planning on calling Denon support to see if they can do anything, but if not, I may have to upgrade to a different model. The point of all this is how well does an iTach SL (Serial) work with a Denon? I have a couple of spare iTach SLs. Does it provide feedback like IP control? Is it more reliable? For serial, I would have to upgrade to at least an AVR-X2000 (if the IP control was unreliable there too).

I'm using an iTach flexlink serial to work with my X3000 and it appears to work perfectly with all feedback. Originally I was using IP but it didn't seem as reliable. I can't be certain it was related to the IP control but I got more lockups than I prefer (about once every 10 days) and I had to pull the plug. So far since switching I've had one lockup that required plug removal. I seem to have a lot of very short power interruptions from time to time so the issue could be related to that. However, I've been running serial for about 3 months with only that one lockup. These new receivers are essentially computers with amps and reliability is bound to suffer.

Thanks, I've got it working through IR for now, but depending on the response from Denon support I may upgrade to the minimum serial compatible version (X2000).

IR may be a fine short term solution but I couldn't live without feedback from the receiver. Volume is the obvious use but I really like the display for Pandora that shows the data for what's playing. You really shouldn't be having that much trouble with IP control. Denon needs to step up and make this right. The problem isn't with Roomie. I know too many other people using IP control, with other receivers, and they never seem to have a problem.

I own 3 different Denons (1912, 3000 and 4311) all controlled by ip. I have never experienced any problems on the Denon models mentioned with IP control

I ran into similar issues after the most recent firmware update to my Marantz SR6008. Control through the Denon/Marantz app was failing as well. I contacted Marantz and they sent me information on how to perform a network reset. It involved a button sequence on the unit, not just the standard unplug/replug cycle. Since then everything has been fine.

2014

So now I have a fully IP controlled setup you with think that I'd be happy but ....no. What's bugging me now is the length of time it seems to take for my Denon AVR-1913 to accept a second command after it is turned on from sleep. On the roomieremote I have to leave a 7500 millisecond delay before sending the input command in order to be sure that it will accept the command. Sometimes 5000 milliseconds seems to work but not consistently. So I would love some suggestions as to what I could do to eliminate or reduce this delay to a second or maybe two. Here are some of the alternatives I have been thinking of:

1) Never turn it off. Just leave it on an send a mute command instead of power off in the power off activity.

2) Never turn it off and send some kind of stop command whenever an activity is exited

3) Buy a different make of receiver that wakes from sleep fast

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions, comments all appreciated.

If you have your IP control set to 'Always On' does just sending the input command power on the 1913?

It does for my Denon AVR-1613. I don't even use the power on commands - just set the input and my 1613 wakes up from its standby state. I would think it works the same for the 1913.

Thank you jKirk.

Yes i do have ip control always on for the denon AVR (actually it's a 2113 - I got the model number wrong on my first post although I agree it does not matter the model in this case). I tried doing what you suggest i.e. leaving the denon AVR on. Unfortunately I have a sharp tv and I use ip control for it and the tv has "aquos link" turned on (so that the kids can use the regular tv remote) and what that does is automatically turn off the AVR when I turn off the tv. Aquos link is sharp's name for the remote codes that can get sent through the hdmi cable. A bummer because otherwise your suggestion would be perfect I think.

Try turning on zone 2. I do that for my pioneer receiver. When I turn off my receiver my zone 2 is still "on" and the receiver still goes to sleep. When I power on the receiver as part of an activity it immediately turns on zone 1 and accepts commands almost immediately.

In the event that someone in your family uses the remote and accidentally turns off zone 2, I've set up roomie to ensure zone 2 is turned on before powering off. The receiver is always ready to go.

Possibly the terminology is confusing. In Denon speak "Always on" does not mean the receiver is visibly on. In a networking sense the device must be always on, eg the network circuit is always on while the rest of the device sleeps.

To configure the network pull up the Denon menu, click NETWORK, click IP CONTROLL and set it to "always on". From Roomie sending a INPUT command will visibly power on the unit AND set the input mode. The newer Denons will process IP commands while the amp section is coming online (eg the clck noise). No delays or fussing around needed. Works 100% on my two Denon 1913's and my Maran...

2014

I would like to be able to control the subwoofer level on my Onkyo TX-NR525 receiver. I have added buttons and sliders and such with the command "subwoofer Volume Up" with no response to the subwoofer level. Is there a way to do this. I would also like to do this for center speaker level.

Really obscure commands like that usually require manufacturer formats for the commands. You know whether Roomie will accept a friendly format because instead of "Parameter 1" the command will say something friendly like "Volume" and give you a placeholder value – which it will not do with these kinds of side commands. Also, "VOLUME UP" is just going to move it up, it doesn't set a specific volume or have any parameters, you need to use the actual SET commands to set the volume. Sliders require a recognized format (Roomie needs to know what the min and max are), so a generic command like this wont work for that.

First, make sure you're using the modern Onkyo control set. You can see this in the device list if your device says "All Models Zone 1" instead of the older "All Models IP Zone 1". The new one is the default now for all auto-discovery and everyone was migrated automatically by 2.0.X, but there may be stragglers.

Second, you will need the appropriate command. For instance .CENTER LEVEL SET and .SUBWOOFER BASS SET. These take special parameters defined in Onkyo's public documents. Note that while SUBWOOFER VOLUME UP is there now and works, .SUBWOOFER LEVEL SET we just found to be missing and we'll add that shortly.

Onkyo defines the .CENTER LEVEL SET volume format as “-C”-"00"-"+C". Those are hex digits and that is what you'd enter as "Parameter 1" in Roomie. Meawhile, .SUBWOOFER BASS SET is "-A"..."00"..."+A". And so on. For detailed listings of the thousands of possibilities, best to consult the Onkyo documentation.

I got the center channel speaker volume to work by adding a rocker with the center volume up and down command.. Although it would be nice to have feed back, I'll take what I can get.

I still cannot get the subwoofer volume commands to work using the same Rocker button.

Ant thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Hi there, i too will like to create a centre channel volume set on my onkyo TXNR 727 receiver for night time viewing but can't figure this out, my aim is to push a button and turn on Audyssey dynamic goodness along with a center channel volume -set to -2db, subwoofer volume set to -1db, and receiver master volume set to -40db in THX relative values, so far i can only set the master volume, please help!

2014

Post:
Has anyone found discrete power IR codes for the Pioneer PDP-6010FD Plasma display? Roomie Support has been great in trying to help, but so far we've not solved this one. On their website, Pioneer lists a number of codes, but none for this specific model, and none of the others work. Any help is appreciated.

Post:
I am controlling my 5020 with an iTach serial adapter & use discrete power on & off with it. You may want to consider this option if all else fails. You may be able to teach the iTach the codes if you have a harmony remote. You could download the commands from their database & use it to teach the iTach. Good luck & let is know what you come up with.

Post:
Holy cow… this is an AWESOME idea!!! I do have a Harmony remote and I know that they have discreet codes. I'll let you know as soon as I give it a try. Thanks, jansimon!

Post:
Here are the discrete power IR codes for Pioneer PDP-6010FD:

POWER OFF:

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POWER ON:

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Notice that those codes repeat themselves 8 times (~1010 is the marker for the repeats). Comparing them to the Pioneer TV Code Group 1 codes already in the main library, the codes themselves are also the same. So this is a case where you'd just want to set the "Repeat" value on the command higher to cause the amount of repetition you need for that unit.

2013

**I have Roomie set up and running multiple rooms in my home perfectly! This app is truly indispensable.

I have a query though about the AVR-3313CI receiver.

1. After a period of time (a couple hours, usually) the device stops responding to IP commands sent via Roomie. If I launch Denon's iOS app and connect, control is restored and Roomie will then function.

2. I set up the 3313 using the legacy autodiscovery mode, and not the newer "IP" mode. This is because one input I use (AUX2) wasn't listed as an option at the time with the device database I was using. Has this been fixed? If not, can it be added.

And finally, a general question. If I wanted to rebuild my room configuration to change the 3313 to IP mode, how do I go about doing that nondestructively? And, somewhat related, how do I "replace" a device? I'm being given the opportunity to beta test DirecTV's new HR44 receiver and want to add it to my configuration but leave my remotes intact.

**1. We have no reports of that with the 3313. Actually, we use the 3313 in development as one of the most common receivers we test against every day. We would suggest checking for firmware updates for your unit and unplugging it from power for 30 seconds or so to reset it.

2. We've added AUX 2 to the next library update for the experimental Denon set.

Creating a new room and thus keeping two parallel rooms might be one way to do that.

**Can you copy a complete room to another, ie, clone a room?

I'd love to clone a room, or a device, with all it's activities pointing at the new places. I know you can with a remote itself

2013

Will it be possible to add Yamaha Receivers 2010+ YNC commands and feedback for Zone 2 and Zone 3?

Yes, this should just be a matter of adding it to a library update which we can do inline at any time. For 1.8.X, we mainly wanted to get initial YNC support into the field to see whether users wanted it and it worked well. We can add most anything to YNC and may make it the default eventually as the general need for multiple connection support over IP is high so that is a distinct advantage of using YNC.

There is so much Yamaha-specific functionality right now on the default YNCA side that it will take time to build out things like the media streaming feedback and many other things we do automatically with Yamaha receivers today using YNCA. If your priority is multiple connections and you don't need streaming media feedback, YNC is the way to go right now. We will add the other zones shortly.

Thank you.

2013

I'm using an iTach IP2IR to control a Pioneer PDP-4350HD using code set 1. Everything but the input selection seems to work great. With code set 1 selecting a specific input (e.g. input 1, input2, etc.) doesn't respond, but using the command to cycle through the inputs does work (but cannot be deterministically programmed). If I teach custom codes the input selections work fine, but then I seem to lose the option to automatically use the TV for all volume control.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Either you should learn all of the codes into a new command set and then use that device for everything, or you should retain the built-in set for everything, add a second device using your supplemental codes, and insert input change commands into your Activities from the second device.

Thank you.

I have the same issue with a Pioneer PDP-5061. The input scroll works, the direct input commands don't. I created a brand new device and taught it the input commands, however they still don't work. Any ideas?

2013

It is discovered as an ip device. I can't control it as a 2009 zone 1, all model zone 1, older model zone 1



Anyone gotten an older pioneer to work?

The 2010 Pioneer models had serious IP bugs, you'll find a lot of references to it and that model specifically in these forums. Check the IP Address on the unit. One of the common issues is that can't talk to routers well and so it backs off to a link-local IP Address that begins with 169.254. Another issue with them is that almost any plug and play device such as a Yamaha Receiver, and many others even on the same network will cause the 2010 Pioneer models to crash.

You may want to consider serial control for it instead. Another option that might work is to try to isolate it onto a private subnet so that the rest of your network doesn't crash it. Usually unplugging it will bring it back to life for a while.

I see that now. I switched it to IR control. It works under IR control but I might get a newer model.

2013

I am trying to control an Anthem MRX-300 receiver via IR, no IP or Serial capability available. I am having mixed results. Device Powers on and off but after that I can't really get it to change inputs reliably. Any ideas? I have tried increasing the retry counts but that does not seem to change this behavior.

Another issue is after powering the receiver on you need to wait about 10-seconds before sending it any additional commands. Is there any way to delay only when the device is powering on from the Off state. For switching inputs when the device is already powered I only need a minimal delay.

Roomie 1.9 did introduce conditional power delays. That is discussed here:

configuration-and-setup-archives/conditional-delays-t9548.html

2013

Question: I have a Yamaha RX-V573, and its physical remote has two Zone buttons - "A" and "B" — for enabling/disabling the zones. However, those buttons are missing from Rommie's virtual remote.

So, I thought I'd customize the remote and add those buttons, but there are not available commands for "Zone."

So I thought I'd use infrared learning to teach those commands, but when adding a new device (per the instructions, here on the site) the learning interface steps through a preset list of commands that ...

Staff response: The 573 is IP controllable, so just to confirm are you using IP control as it sounds like you may be using IR control for that.

The solution is basically the same in both cases. Commands are separated by zone. If you want to control two zones at the same time, you would need to add both the Zone 1 device and Zone 2 device. Commands for Zone 2 will be in the Zone 2 device. Via infrared that is labelled Yamaha: RX/RS Series Zone 2 All Models (Stereo Receiver). Via IP, that is labelled Yamaha 2011+ Models Zone 2.

2013

First let me start by saying that I think Roomie is probably the best app I have purchased and while upgrading my kit I am conscious of devices that work as well as possible via IP.

I have setup Roomie to control my Yamaha 673 and in order to use the feedback across multiple devices I have used the YNC method you suggest.

The problem I have is that there are less options available with this method and some do not work also (mode - straight for example) and the feedback is not as nice as using the usual method (mode above the volume).

Are there just less options using the multi connect route or are there features to be added?

YNC definitely has a ways to go before it is at feature parity to the default/normal Yamaha receiver control method. We will revisit it in the future. If you need any of the feedback/etc. from the default method, we'd recommend using that instead.

Thank you.

Roomie 1.9 seems to have lost the YNC option - was this intentional?

We were able to add it just now using 1.9.0. YNC is added via Manual IP. What are you seeing that indicates an issue here?

Thank you.

I already had it as a device but after updating to 1.9 it was in red in the devices list and no commands worked. I will delete the existing device and re-add.

Same exact receiver here and after updating to 1.9 I had to delete and re-add the receiver for it to work. Looks like you consolidated all Yamaha receivers in this release? Instead of Yamaha 673 mine now said something like "Yamaha 2011+" when I added it back.

Not that it matters, but anyone with a yamaha receiver might just have to delete/re-add the device after updating to 1.9

2013

I own an Marantz UD 8004, this can be controlled by serial and also by IP.

As the Marantz Blu-Ray Players are compatible with roomie using serial it should also be possible to use the same codes for IP Control (According to the Roomie DDK).

Can you please add the Marantz Blu-Ray Players to the available IP Players ?

I already ordered an IP2IR device but would like to us IP whenever possible.

That should work on port 23 added via Manual IP.

I tryed using manual IP, unfortunatly Marantz is not offered when choosing the type Blu-Ray Players...

Marantz is just the fancy name for Denon. The same command set is used for Denon's BD players.

I know that Denon and Marantz are nearly the same, but for the roomie user it would be easier if Marantz was also listed in den Blu-Ray Player section.

Anyway I will try the Denon commands...

That is exactly what we do for supported products (of which this is not currently one). If this works for you however, we can add that.

Just some Feedback about the Marantz UD8004.

I got every key on the virtual device to work using manual ip on port 23. The only thing that I don't realy like is that you have to set the Marantz Standby Mode to 'Quick Start Mode' to the the Power ON Button to work.

I think only the serial control is active in normal Standby Mode.

Is there another way to to wake up the Marantz or Denon's ?

There are no light's on the Ethernet port, therefore I think they are not powered in this mode :frowning:

2013

Post:
First off amazing application. I have already figured out what I would consider to be some advanced scripts like turn on devices, set channel, and volume. Very amazing!

I am looking for any Pioneer VSX owners who may have figured out how to tune a favorite Internet radio station. I will try to use cursor commands but I am wondering if there is a better way to accomplish this.

Again amazing product. I look forward to adding an IR control and Insteon devices in the future.

Post:
So far cursor commands are not working. There appears to be an issue with Cursor Enter command not working.

Post:
Which model of Pioneer VSX receiver are you using? Setting a radio station on Pioneers is most easily performed by setting a Preset on the receiver and then directly accessing that preset from the command list.

Post:
VSX-1021 but this is for the HMG Internet Radio not the FM Tuner.
Steps are similar to:
Select Internet Radio
Enter for favorites
Enter for first folder
Enter for first station
(Keeping things simple.)
Seems like the Enter/Select command is not working.

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Hi, Pioneer's HMG commands for cursors, play, stop, etc... are different than their other cursor command in other modes. I am actualy controling my Pioneer SC-25 receiver through harmony remote control right now and in order to have the HMG internet radio working with my harmony remote, I had to learn my harmony remote the IR commands from my original remote because it was not in their database. Since then everything works great. As a matter of fact I asked a similar question from Roomie that if I can have a two way feedback of my Pioneer receiver's internet radio function displayed on the roomie remote like the volume feedback and Roomie responded that they will add those features in their 1.5 release. You can find that in the request features section under the Two way feedback.
Good luck

2012

i just started using this software last night. i'm trying to control a receiver in my living room and one in my theater. i have directv in both rooms and it shows up in the menu immediatley. neither receiver will show up in menu. the ip address assigned to the directv in the theater is 192.168.3.101, the pioneer sc-35 is coming up with a ip of 169.254.57.124. i tried to turn of dhcp and assign an address of 192.168.3.102 the compatibility list said the following: All Zones AutoDiscovery (Port 8102) so i set the port to 8102 with the listed ip address. i could not get receiver to show up at all. i tried using a switch and the used my linksys router as well nothing changed with the ip addresses. what am i doing wrong? thanks for any help you can give me!

An IP Address starting with 169.254 is basically not an IP address. It's called a Link Local Address and it means the Pioneer is not setup for your network properly. If you can't get the Pioneer to hook up to your network properly, we'd recommend contacting Pioneer support as those models were known to have some issues with their network cards.

pioneer tech support was worthless and said there is no known issue with the network cards. i'm a little upset as the suggestion was to get it serviced and there was never a network cable plugged into it. i guess my only option is to spend the 100 dollar serial connection instead of the free network hookup. i don't want to go ir because of the limited capabilities.

IP Addresses mentioned: 192.168.3.101, 169.254.57.124, 192.168.3.102

2012

Could you please explain or document the setup procedure for controlling a Denon AVR with IR and receiving feedback from IP? I.E. I would like to know which one is "volume for all activities" and how to setup IR for control. I find IP control a bit erratic.

Just add both as independent devices. Use the IR as "power for all activities". Use IP as "volume for all activities". Configure inputs only on the IR device. That would give you roughly the best blend while keeping all of the feedback.

We could also ask why IP has been erratic for you as that can probably be solved. Denon actually has been by far the most problematic in terms of firmware versions that have IP problems, but their current firmware versions for the last couple of years worth of receivers seem stable.

When you use IP for "volume for all activities" though, do you use IP for the volume command or can you force it to use the IR command?

As for the IP problems, sometimes I find that the app fires the macro commands ok, but the Global Cache doesn't receive them every time. I do switch apps a bit, but never shut the Roomie app.

Other than that excellent!

2012

Hello, having some problems with this plasma TV (about 6 years old).

I have an emitter at the IR window, on port 3, no problems with any devices on the IP2IR box except this TV. When I use the test remote, this particular TV takes a few hits on the power button to come alive. I have tried 1-5 retransmit counts in the setup for the TV and this does not seem to work. I have also tried all of the different codesets for both Pioneer (Code set 1 and 2) and Pioneer Elite to no avail. I do notice that none of the 4 code sets do anything other than power on/off, mute and volume. None of the codesets will allow toggling through inputs, menu functions, etc. Only the most basic, which is fine, if I could just get the TV to power on/off, as everything is on one HDMI.



I also tried messing with the delay settings, placing the TV at both the beginning and end of the sequences for powering on receiver cable box, etc. Nothing seems to work.



One last thing... when I try moving through the retransmit counts and actually watch the emitter, it seems like no matter how many retransmits >1 I choose, I only see the emitter flash red once. For example, if I chose retransmit =4, I see only one flash of red...then nothing. This would explain a lot... is there a bug with the retransmit setting for this code set?



Thanks for any help...

A given retransmit regardless of value is likely to show as one flash, so that's probably not an issue. A "retransmit" means a continuous code is transmitted. What your TV sounds like it wants is multiple separate transmissions. In such a case, you would just add more POWER ON commands to your Activity to activate the TV. The explanation for the issue is either that your TV is simply designed to expect that, or possibly that the emitter is placed poorly and thus reception is low requiring the command to be sent multiple times.

Ports mentioned: 3

2012

does the Onkyo tx-sr606 receiver work for IR?

How do I know what codes to use

thanks

Yes, that would be controlled by selecting Receiver->Onkyo/Integra-> Main Zone All Models (Stereo Receiver) connected to the iTach IR.

2012

The default remote for the Denon 4311 has a 'Mute Toggle' button, which is very useful, but when I look for the command to create another 'Mote Toggle' button, I only find 'Mute On' and 'Mute Off'.

Is there a way to get 'Mute Toggle'?

When a unit such as that one does not provide a toggle command, Roomie creates a Virtual Remote that simulates a toggle because it knows the current state of the command in the receiver. So it generally doesn't matter to you because Roomie handles that for you with the default mute button in the top bar.

Many thanks - would there be a way to have two such toggles on a virtual remote - one for Zone 1 and the other for Zone 2?

2012

Greetings! I've been exploring various iOS-based remotes. I've narrowed things down.

Four questions I need answers to:

First question: I'm currently a Harmony Remote RF user and my issue revolves around Zone 2 and Zone 3 support in the Anthem AVM50v. In the supported device notes, it says that only Zone 1 is supported; however, I wanted to confirm that. If you all supported Zones 2 and 3 that would be a huge benefit. Currently, the Harmony Link does not do a good job of giving me flexibility and programming of the multi-zones.

I've downloaded the Roomie remote and it's really slick. What you all did with the iTunes support is fantastic. That would save me the need to switch out of the remote software and use the Apple Remote App.

Second Question: I see that the iTach Ethernet to IR adapter is PoE compliant and want to confirm it just needs a 12v feed. I was looking at possibly pairing this with a D-link DWL-P200 PoE adapter to run with my current setup; the D-Link only supports 12v max.

Third Question: This is more mundane; I have a Scientific Atlanta Cable box and it has no RS-232 connection or discreet power on or power off. Thus, I keep it on all the time to avoid confusion with the remote. Is there any add-on with the roomie that would allow you to sense if the unit is on?

Fourth Question: Related to the above, I have the Anthem AVM50v, an Oppo BDP83, and a Monoprice HDMI matrix switch that have RS-232 support. I'd like to use RS-232 to determine off or on state since I assume that if I'm using an iPad and an iPhone, one will be unable to tell the on or off state of the units between devices. If that's true, what is the best value solution for me to be able to control three RS-232 devices with the primary purpose of determining on or off state? From what I'm seeing in your store, there's only a single RS-232 connection so I'd need three separate devices PLUS an IR blaster too?

Thanks for any help on this in helping me make a decision.

Regards,

Ted

1. The Anthem Zone 1 note is on the serial compatibility page:


It applies only to the built-in serial codes for which we simply haven't entered additional zones, but they can also be added via our DDK.

Meanwhile, to clarify, of course all zones of Anthem are supported today via infrared control as per the infrared compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

2. It's "standard PoE" and is 12V.

3. The best solution for that issue we're aware of is to swap to something like a TiVo.

4. Both infrared and serial control for Anthem have discrete power commands. The Oppo is also discrete via both serial and IR. We're not sure what your goal is therefore with tracking state as at ...

2012

Question: Bought the GC iTach IP2IR and all of the add-ons for Roomie. I have a number of issues/questions on getting my brand new Pioneer SC-55 AV receiver to work with Roomie.

First, I must obviously have no clue which remote to choose for the SC-55 during device setup. From the remote descriptions offered in the app, I can choose 2009, or older than 2009, or the VSX series. Picking the remote configuration is by far the weakest link in your product. It is a guessing game at best and incorrect at ...

Staff response: As you predicted, the Network Standby Mode was turned off on the receiver. Changing it fixed the detection problem and it now powers on and off correctly via IP. Thanks a ton!

I also got the TV working by moving the blaster closer. I'll have to fiddle with placement now that it works. The TV is hung on the wall, with all wiring inside the wall, so I was trying to avoid running a black emitter wire up the wall. The repeat was set to five, so I backed it down to 3, which seems to be enough. Thanks again for the help.

My TiVo Premiere XL4 worked immediately with your IP-based software, so I'm happy about that. Unfortunately, the Pioneer receiver still won't switch between HDMI inputs during activity start up. I set up all the input connections between the receiver and the 4 HDMI devices, but it always stays on HDMI 1 (my TiVo) no matter which device/activity I start.

2012

Media Players

I haven't been using Roomie that long so it's still a work in progress but I had come across an issue with my Zidoo UHD3000 through my testing. For some movies I have multiple versions, like 3D and 4K or Theatrical and Extended, and when I pull up the list of movies from the app and click on one of those then nothing would happen. I couldnt find anything else on this so I am not sure if there is an easy solution or it's just me having this issue, or everyone has it. If it is a problem that everyone has I did find a workaround which seems to work.

I re-match one of the two versions of the movie with a random movie I know I'll never own. Then I go into the Zidoo web-app and edit it. I change all the info: title, run-time, rating, etc. and also upload the cover art. So, now it shows as two separate movies which solves the issue. I also had to solve another related problem which was that some long movies are ripped from 2 discs like: LOTR extended cuts, Snyders Justice League, etc. and they faced the same problem except I didnt want to do separate titles for them. So with those I just used an app to put the two mkv files into one.

Anyway, I figured I'd put this out there in case others were looking to solve this. If theres a non-workaround solution to this then feel free to let me know.

Staff response: Zidoo's Media Guide in Roomie offers either direct browsing (you choose the filename from a list), or the Movies guide which is basically just the same thing you see in Zidoo's Home Theater app. I have not observed their HT app distinguishing different versions of a movie, so I'd assume all such cases should be engaged via direct browsing (eg. tab "smb" at the top level).

That makes sense and matches what I’ve seen. So the workaround I’m using is the solution then. I just really like the functionality of pulling up the list from the HT app so if I can make sure all my movies play from there then why not.

2024

Question: I just got my Oppo 203. Everything seems to work in terms of the Simple Remote with the exception of power ON. I tried both Power ON and Power Toggle and even tried Wake On Lan commands in the activity and nothing seems to work. I have tried testing the virtual remotes power on function as well and it doesn't work. If the Oppo 203 is powered on, all remote functions seem to work including being able to power it off. I have network standby enabled in the Oppo.

I am thinking it could be the resu...

Staff response: Remember to check our Twitter feed for 0 day things like this. The advice is to be found there. Just add it via Manual IP on port 436 as brand Oppo type Blu-ray Player with category Media Control.

Thankfully, we're experts at reverse engineering as that is the one protocol that works right now and that is the one that Oppo never published. Apparently there is another port 23 protocol that we'll likely switch to for discover in the next release, but for now 436 seems to work great including network standby in our tests.

I have a flood of device compatibility list updates to make like this one.

This thread is very old. We long ago released software updates to fix auto-discovery to do the right thing here automatically.

Power On requires setting the options in the Oppo menu for Quick Start (or something like that, don't have it in front of me).

I think this discovery mismatch happens if someone manually renames their Oppo in the firmware screens which ends up overwriting the model number in discovery. It's so rare we haven't looked into it, but yes that would be the solution.

2016

Question: [code][code][/code][/code]Hi

I am trying to add Zappiti 4k to my configuration and I want to uise the new IP codes.

I am using DDK but I don't understand how to encode the codes in the plist file. The list is as follows.

IPAddress/remoteCmd?id=0&command=POWER (Stand-by / Wake Up)
IPAddress/remoteCmd?id=0&command=MENU
[IPAddress/remoteCmd?id=0&command=BACK](http://IPAddress/remoteCmd?id=0&command=B...

Staff response: There is an HTTP sample in the DDK. Given those commands are simple versions of the sample commands, it should be very straightforward to adapt that file for those.

I have asked Zappiti twice for a test unit and even said we'd pay for it, but no luck yet over the last few months. Make sure to send your feedback to Zappiti regarding that so they're reminded.

OTOH AFAIK there is a codeset for it in the library and if you add manually it should work fine, but since we don't have a test unit we can't verify anything or add any of the cool stuff we just added for Zidoo for example such as the progress meter and media guide.

2016

Hi,

It could be great if you could add the option button in your IP and RS232 databases to control OPPO players.

With the new OPPO firmware this button permit to display the option menu to use cue files.

RS232 Command Code : OPT

Thanks.

Best regards

Eric

We've added this code to the next library update.

Thank you.

Big thanks to the roomie team for your reactivity and your fantastic app !

BR
Eric

2013

Streaming Devices

My RoKu streamers stopped working in Roomie until I discovered that RoKu recently added an option for network control that was disabled by default. After enabling it, my devices were back to normal.

But then while poking around I found something a little strange. For my RoKu Ultra 4802x. when I open the DEVICE (in devices) and select the TEST button, the panel contains a series of buttons that have my most recently used RoKu apps. And those buttons work! But in the live ACTIVITY panel that uses that device, those buttons are not there. I've used the "reset module" for the roku device in that activity with no change.

Am I missing something? Is this a bug and should I file a bug report?

2025

Question: I remember this being an issue, but now have noticed the Plex app is official listed as compatible on the Nvidia Shield.

That being said, I can get it to work no matter what I do.

It is discoverable, but when I add it to devices it has no response. I have no issue controlling the Shield itself or Kodi thru ip, but no luck on the official Plex app.

Am I missing something?

Staff response: While you appear to add Plex Media Player directly, commands actually go to your Plex Media Server which controls all players. So making sure every aspect of your Plex config is correct including your server, your Plex subscription, your Plex login, etc. are the factors involved, all of which are on the Plex side.

Quite

2022

forums.geforce.com/default/topi ... mmands-/3/

In that forum thread is enough to get control of the Nvidia Shield setup. Even a few links to other's code who have implemented everything but the microphone input the remote supports.

It's basically AndroidTV like my sony's so I'm actually surprised it's not auto detected.

Staff response: I don't see anything in there other than failures and quotes from messages I wrote a few years ago about the original Google TV which is now 3 full generations back.

Perhaps "IP Commands not available" would be a more correct title.

Nvidia Shield is controlled today via IR.

Got an Nvidia shield and am loving it for Kodi. I am successfully controlling it via the IR commands in Simple Control, except the green, blue, yellow, green commands do not seem to work within Kodi? Also I really would like to add a command to control subtitles, and I need to implement the keyboard command for the letter L, does anyone know how I can add this?

2016

Does simple control work with the new Roku players? My AppleTV 3 is frustrating me by dropping video on live channels(news, nfl, etc), and I'm trying to decide between an AppleTV 4 or a Roku Premiere+.

Staff response: They should work fine.

Roku Ultra works perfect here.

2016

**I have a Roku 2 on my network. For some reason, I can't see channels that I've installed on the device on Roomie (for instance, I installed "Nowhere TV", which is a meta-channel - it has many channels accessible through it that aren't in the Roku store.

1. I'd love to be able to see "Nowhere TV" as a choice on the roomie
2. I'd also like to not see the channels I've uninstalled on roomie

For bonus points (not sure if this plausible), I'd love to be able to see my favorite nowhere tv channels as choices on the roomie.

any ideas on how to make any of this possible (i was under the impression that 1 & 2 should work automatically, but i could be wrong)

**Roomie shows whatever channels are listed by your Roku at this URL:

ip-of-your-Roku:8060/query/apps

If you see channels there that Roomie is not showing, please send the output of that to support@roomieremote.com and we'll take a look.

**I figured out part of this:

* There was a blank square for the "nowhere man" channel in the roku guide on roomie. When I click the channel, I see the button press animation, but the channel doesn't change.

**Submitting the output to support would be the best way to handle that.

2013

Cable & Satellite Boxes

I was forced to switch to Xfinity from DirecTV, I have been controlling our boxes with roomie since 2012 and I cannot get roomie to control these set top boxes. What do I have to do?
Thanks. RC

Staff response: According to a quick search, it's some kind of rebranded Roku. You'd need to experiment with trying to get Roku control working with it as a first step it seems to me.

2025

@M.Schleider (#1):
Can the Xfinity Set Top box be used. It appears that they block use to limit control only to their remote. The Xfinity TV app supports iPhone and connects to ALL the Xfinity apps on same network. Only volume , and mute are IR. All other buttons do not respond to IR. I have a new 4K x1 box and it requires (limits) to one dedicated physical remote.

Staff response: Not aware of any issues here and certainly many, many users over time have used X1 boxes without issue. I would forget whatever you think you know from the manufacturer remote. They are of course still infrared boxes and our IR code sets have long accounted for them. For users that prefer an IP solution in an Xfinity environment, TiVo still works great.

2023

I am looking to set up Roomie for a client; this will be my first experience with the system. I noticed that DirectTV/Tivo have IP capability, but Dish does not. My impression is that using Tivo via Roomie offers a graphic-rich experience with good capabilities for control (i.e. you can control everything on the Tivo just as though you were using a physical remote). My client is on Dish Network--or at least will be once the install is complete. Will Dish have a similar level of control with Roomie via IR: will the client be able to navigate the Dish guide, change channels, and playback DVR content. Or will they have to use the factory Dish remote to get full functionality?

It is a simple question, but one that I can't seem to get a full answer for without playing with the system. Thanks for the input.

Dish boxes are all currently infrared. Infrared control of Dish boxes via Roomie includes all of the functionality one would have with a physical Dish remote.

There is also very good reason to be optimistic that as long as you are using recent Dish boxes like Hopper and Joey, Dish may be controllable via pure IP control soon.

Awesome. Thank you very much!

2014

I didn't see the Tivo Roamio and the "basic" Tivo Roamio listed in the supported devices list. Are these models supported? I don't know if they are IP-control capable or not, but they otherwise appear to use an RF remote which would be a bit troublesome.

We believe the new OTA model should work well, but we have not seen confirmation of that yet so it's not yet added to the compatibility list.

2014

A couple of question regarding configuration of Roomie.

I'm having trouble configuring my motorola cable box. I want to turn the box on for all activities and turn off when I hit the power off key. The motorola device settings are configured set to power on for all activities. The problem is whenever I switch activities the motorola box power toggles. I expected Roomie to maintain state and not send any commands to the cable box until the off key is selected. The only work around I can think of is to create a standalone activity to enable the cable box but that kind of defeats the point of activites. Any ideas?

I haven't been able to find any description of what the Request Conformation options does. I've tried setting it on and off and haven't perceived any operational difference.

For a device only capable of Power Toggle, you would not want to set that as Power for All Activities. Normally you would set it as a Power Device for a particular activity which would be a common configuration. If instead you want it to be on for multiple Activities and then off for System Off, you'd probably want to create a System On button to toggle it on and that would serve as the counter to System Off for it.

For the Motorola DCH3200 used by Comcast, we use these commands to simulate the discrete ON and OFF:

ON: info - power - power

OFF: info - power

2012

I am considering replacing my Motorola DCX3400 DVR with a Tivo Elite XL4. Can anyone comment on how responsive the Tivo Premiere DVR's when controlling them via IP? The Motorola has terrible response to IR commands no matter what I've tried (Harmony, repeaters, iTach, adjusting delays). My biggest issue is with channel changing, it is inconsistent with getting the channel right. I am hoping if I switched to a DVR that was IP controlled it would be an instant command like every other device if used via IP.

As a general statement but also specifically with regards to channel changing, there is probably no smoother implementation of that than any modern TiVo. Part of the difference there is that via IP, we use a single TiVo command to change the channel to a complete channel number. Via IR, everything including the Motorola of course requires sending individual digits. So that means 9 then 0 then 0 then Enter, and each IR command takes about 200ms, for a total of 800+ ms which is almost a full second to transmit before the unit actually does anything. By contrast the TiVo IP channel change command completes in about 50ms.

We have both of those devices as test units and can confidently say you're like to be pleased with the upgrade.

Sweet! That is exactly the answer I was hoping for! So far I am very excited, impressed & satisfied with Roomie. I am just trying to maximize the experience & get everything to work as best as it can so my wife will accept using it exclusively. Thank you for your reply.

2012

I've tried numerous times to get this up and running, and I am having zero luck. Rogers Cable box PVR Cisco 8642, has anyone got this to work with an IP2IR? If yes, please send your settings.

thanks.

Which command set are you using? We have a FAQ on IR diagnosis here:

Diagnostics

i had no problem with setup of iTechIP2IR. Cisco Cable 8000HD series. All commands work.

2012

Lighting

Question: I know this subject has been touched on before. But let me add some details and see if anyone has any suggestions.

I have quite a few TPlink/Kasa wall switches that I use to control lights throughout my place. The initial generation had no direct Homekit support. I needed to use the Homebridge plugin to get them into Homekit. They showed up in Roomie as "Switches" even though I had selected "Display as Light" in the Home App. This was OK even if a bit confusing because I had other light...

Staff response: This has been on the list for quite a few years. Because people stop asking for it, it doesn't bubble up to the top. Likely this item has been on the list of "we're about to implement this" for longer than anything else.

Keep requesting it, or like this Top Post, etc. The more we understand what people are needing, the more we can prioritize appropriately.

This change is much bigger than a simple one line fix, so that's why it keeps getting deferred. It really should be fixed inside HomeKit, but it's clear Apple is unlikely to address that in our lifetimes.

2025

Question: Hello,

I have installed Govee Recessed RBG Canned lights in my Theater. Is there anyway to get these lights working with RoomieRemote?

I have it working in Apple HomeKit via HomeBridge but I am not finding any good information for Roomie on this topic.

Thanks
AH

Staff response: We control anything in HomeKit. Whether there is a direct control protocol I have no idea.

I was very impressed with their booth at CES and might be getting a bunch of these for a game room. I'm not sure why/when anyone would use them for home theater purposes, but regardless this API is a very detailed thing that would require numerous test devices. As a general note, this is a cloud-based API like SmartThings. So everything would be a bit slower than a proper LAN API like Hue. No timeline here, but it's possible.

They seem to have killed the LAN API at least in modern devices. I got something this week and it does not work on it. If you look at everything out there, nothing is using it basically. Seems like they deprecated it and now you have to use the Cloud API. I don't have an API key yet so I'll come back to this later.

This product line is a disaster. I like the lights themselves, but whoever is handling their API/control needs to lower their Adderall dosage. Look at this:

https://github.com/bwp91/homebridge-govee/wiki/Supported-Devices

So they have 4 different possible APIs. Each of them works with different devices in what can best be described as "mostly random" ways. The LAN API is essentially useless, only supports a few devices. The most compatible seems to be getting the user's actual account credentials and going in through that – ignoring the cloud API key thing above because that one is not even listed here because it is such crap. The cloud API has a rate limit that has been described as something regular users run into every single day, and requires each user to request their own API key – rather than the normal path where we

2023

What other lighting is controlled with Roomie besides Luton?

Staff response: HomeKit, ISY, Hue, Vera, the list goes on. The Compatibility page covers the basics.

2022

I was wondering if anyone knows if the Phillips Hue Bridge is supported since the Hub has been discontinued for awhile? I am planning on automating my house so I need to figure out a lot of these devices. Thanks!

Staff response: In what was do you believe it is discontinued? AFAICT it is widely available, and is currently working well:

Amazon link for it that seems fully up to date:
Philips Hue Bridge

2022

Question: When a homebar (homekit) device is in the "on" state (e.g. a light or switch is on), the homebar category containing that device is highlighted. It would be great if when opening that category, when the list of rooms pops up, the room(s) containing the "on" device(s) would be highlighted.

Jeff

Staff response: I have been meaning to do this for ages. Please check the next beta or release build to verify. I don't have any HomeKit shades in my test environment anymore so I am mostly testing lights and switches and sensors.

2022

Question: Are there plans to support recently announced Lutron's Radio Ra3 system?

Staff response: I'll be a little surprised if it doesn't just work, but who knows. 7.1.2 has a ton of new stuff in this area, but RA3 is purely speculative. It's not even certain which API it will use, but my educated guesses are it will just work or will require only trivial changes.

We have this working and officially approved in beta right now. So yes the usual major Fall release should pretty certainly have this support.

This is covered in the release notes.

I have never tested occupancy sensors with RA3, so if it doesn't work feel free to contact support and we might be able to add it. For automation in the recent release, the release notes cover the primary focus which was keypad monitoring including Pico remotes all the way up to QSX Keypads.

Visor Control Receiver

Don't know what that is, but it's probably easy to solve. A forum is definitely not the place for that though. We'd need to see this in a support ticket from the app which would make it very simple.

2021

Greetings,

I have multiple Philips lights (controlled by a Hue Bridge) in my theater room. In the Home Kit app I have them all together under the title "Theater Room Lights". When I tap the icon in the Home Kit app it powers on/off all of them at once (my preference). In Roomie Remote V6 when I press the lighting icon in the Home Bar the lights are all listed separately, requiring that each be individually pressed for on/off control.

Is there a way to arrange that all of the lighting be controlled/named "Theater Room Lights" so that a simple tap controls them all in the Home Bar?

2020

I like the way we can dim a hue light in the home bar under V5.5. I’ve been trying to figure out how to do that same thing with Lutron rr2 devices? I’d really appreciate any guidance on this topic. I’d also like to understand feedback? Is see a command in rr2 command set that looks like it should somehow send feedback but I don’t understand how to use it?

Thanks!

I submitted this as a support request and it turns out I can dim RadioRa2 devices. It's all about the Manifest. If anyone else has this issue just scroll down in the device panel, click on manifest and click update. Then you'll see all your RadioRa devices and can add to rooms, keep them in the default (which works pretty well, probably depending on how things are named) and also hide them from the home bar. I did this with some controllers I had that were hybrid controllers that I had not actually connected to a load. All is good now! Thanks to support for responding quickly! I'm finding I can do most everything I want to with Simple Control!

2019

Hi
I have an edin mode lighting system installed in my house and i want to integrate it in simple remote. Is there anyone that has done this? If yes i would appreciate it if he send me the plist file.

Vassos

Hi There yes I have, here you go. Just enter scene number for recall.

SimpleControlModeedin.plist.zip (1.0 KB)

2018

How do I get the Lutron pico to trigger actions in simple control?

I have a caseta bridge, pico audio remote, Apple TV (gen 4) and a Sonos connect. I currently have the pico directly controlling the Sonos connect via the caseta hub, and I added the caseta hub to HomeKit. But, I want to also trigger actions with my shiny bow audio matrix when buttons are pressed on the pico. I set up simple control hub on my Apple TV to sync with HomeKit, but still not dice with the pico showing up in simple control.

Do I need to buy a Lutron dimmer or something for each pico, so a device will show up in HomeKit (and thus simple control)? If so, can I circumvent this by buying the caseta pro or ra2? I have 12+ zones that I’m eventually setting up with simple control, so ideally I’m not buying a bunch of unnecessary Lutron hardware for each zone beyond the pico itself.

Thanks!

2018

Question: Hi

I'm on version 4.5 and would like to migrate to version 5.5 but I can't seem to get the lighting controls to work right. I know they have generally been moved to the home control bar/button. I am using the Universal Devices ISY994 to control various Insteon switches, dimmers, and some programs. Under v4.4 I could set up sliders to control brightness of individual lights, or buttons that changed icon/color depending on whether the light was on or off. However, when I run the v5.5 app it seems...

Staff response: Lots of users use ISY on the Homebar. All of our developers have ISY in their standard test suite. If you're not seeing your lights etc. on the Homebar, there is a configuration issue. Make sure your manifest is up to date and then go through each manifest item in the device editor to check its name and room assignment.

To run 1 device on 5.5: unpair one device from your paired Hub, update just that one to 5.5 from App Store, use that until you finish the 5.5 config you are happy with, then reset your Hub, update to 5.5 on all devices, and seed-pair from the first 5.5 device to push the new config out.

Sync and Backup are unrelated. This is the FAQ on that:

You should always backup. You should always sync. They're not the same though.

This is a user to user forum. Whatever you're describing would need to look at your actual config which is something support does.

2018

Hi

Any user have LightwaveRF devices and know how to add comment in activities so the LightwaveRF event can be triggered? With individual devices such as dimmer, you change the parameter with room, device and on/off, what do we do with event?

Found the answer myself in the end, and I put some instruction here for the user who might want to use at their home.

The LightwaveRF event feature is provided to allow combining few LightwaveRF command together with time delay to execute them. In order to trigger it the user need to know the event ID of the event they created on their mobile device or web portal. To get this event ID, they need to logon to web portal and click on event, chose the one they want to trigger and select edit. The page URL will show something similar as below, which contains the event ID.

https://manager.lightwaverf.com/add-event?event_id=173350

After get the event ID the following procedure is required in order to trigger it.
\t1. Assume the LightwaveRF hub has already been added as device to the simple control device.
\t2. Choose a activity you want to use and click on add command
\t3. Select the device -> select the action as set .event -> in the paramter put in following
\tE173370
\tPlease remember to put capital E at front of event ID
\t4. This should allow the lightwaveRF event been triggered through simple control

The above method have one issue, that is the device that run trigger the event has to be registered with LightwaveRF hub!!! This is difficult when user wants a activity to be run from dedicated hub such as Apple TV device, where it's NOT registered with LightwaveRF hub since it don't have local app to run on the Apple TV device.

2017

Hi,

I'm currently, renovating and looking to get new lutron Sivoia QS hardwired shades for multiple rooms. The dealer has already advised me to run low voltage wiring from shades to my mechanical room and "switch" for shade in the rooms to the mechanical room. He's also advised that integration control it will ultimately output in RS232.

I'm now trying to figure out how i would control the shades through SimpleControl? Do i still need to get the Homeworks or some other Lutron control system? Or is there a way for the Rs232 to be IP addressable? I've seen something called a QS Ethernet/RS232 Interface, but i'm not sure if this is adequate? He did mention that Control4 or Crestron dealers usually integrate with these RS232 commands, but wasn't clear as to how they do that.

I also have a MV Vera Edge and ELK M1Gold security system that can talk to Lutron. Unfortunately, from what i've seen it's mainly for the Radio RA 2 or the Smart Bridge Pro? I've seen some older documentation on it working with Homeworks, but nothing definitive.

Would love some help, so that i'm not spending extra money for redundant controllers if i don't have to.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Marc

2016

Interested in the Hue Motion Sensor, but first I'd like to know how well it's supported by Simple Control. The Hue app has a slider to enable/disable the slider. At a minimum I'd like to be able to include commands in an activity, say "Watch TiVo" for instance,that allows me to enable/disable the sensor at the start/end of the activity.

Good question. Did you figure it out?

I'm trying to do essentially the same, but get an empty "Choose Characteristic" list when trying to add a command to an Action that involves a Hue motion sensor or switch. Strange when you can set lamp characteristics without a problem.

i think this is a hue limitation, it will only share information on its bulbs with other apps. motion sensors , switches ect all have to paired with a different hub to get other application to see them.

2016

Post:
I've just changed my lighting over from Lutron to Rako and I'm looking at ways of controlling it. I've added and successfully have working custom command codes for RS232 and TCP but it's a bit long winded in that I have to pass several commands to change scene. Fortunately they allow control with HTTP which is a single command however I'm struggling to create the right custom commands as http is not my forte.

I'm coding it as;

<dict>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
<key>CENTRES</key>
<string>GET //192.168.0.28:80/
rako.cgi?house=4&room=1&com=3</string>
<key>SEATING</key>
<string>GET //192.168.0.28:80/
rako.cgi?house=4&room=1&com=4</string>
<key>FADE SEATING</key>
<string>GET //192.168.0.28:80/
rako.cgi?house=4&room=1&com=5</string>
<key>OUTERS ONLY</key>
<string>GET //192.168.0.28:80/
rako.cgi?house=4&room=1&com=6</string>
<key>ALL OFF</key>
<string>GET //192.168.0.28:80/
rako.cgi?house=4&room=1&com=0</string>
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>http</string>
<key>brand</key>
<string>Rako</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>Bridge</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>12</integer>
</dict>

but it's not working. What have I missed or got drastically wrong?

John

Post:
The samples for HTTP in the DDK provide a good template for commands like that to show you exactly what we point out here. In your case the issue is that you don't need any of the "GET //192.168.0.28:80" part. Removing that from the commands will cause them to be correct. However, you also have some special characters that don't look escaped. Xcode handles that for you. If you're looking at this in a text editor, those ampersands should be & amp; (without the space) not raw characters.

Post:
The example in the DDK uses URL as the first line and I took it to mean the whole URL.

I'm using a PC and Edit Pad Lite. In copying over the codes that I was using the text editor here seems to have translated it. It is definitely & in the codes.

Changes done and it's all working now.

Many thanks for the very quick response on a Sunday.

John

2014

What might be the easiest IP controlled home theater lighting to run with Roomie Remote

I wanted to use Insteon but the controllers linked here -
Device Compatibility
appear to be "old" (one is no longer available at all), the other is quite a bit more than this insteon hub/controller -
Insteon Hub
or this
Insteon 2413

I intend to setup two of Insteon dimmer switches like this -
Insteon Dimmer Switch

Any suggestions?

The best solution for Insteon by far is the ISY994i:

ISY994i

Insteon pretty much dropped the ball on the controller front with their most recent generation which is why we still list the older 24XX products.

However, if you really want to use the Insteon Hub, it is basically compatible. Instructions for that are in this thread:

feature-requests-archives/insteon-gateway-hub-t8922.html

Thanks that doesn't sound like a terribly "glowing" lighting endorsement?

Can I go back to my first question (with a missing ?)

What might be the easiest IP controlled home theater lighting to run with Roomie Remote
???

To add a bit more spec -
I'd like at least two dimmer switches with option to scale up a bit from there.

I'm sure I probably don't need to add for a reasonable DIYer cost.

I'm thinking of getting away from my existing X10 Lighting system, as while it works, it's a bit flaky (random false ON signals), and I am quickly preferring IP control vs. IR with Roomie and otherwise.

The Insteon system works excellently, as long as you have a good controller of which the ISY994i is one.

If "easiest" is the primary measure, Philips Hue would probably top that list.

If "best" or "highest quality" is the primary measure, Lutron Radio RA 2 is a clear winner, but that will cost a good order of magnitude or two above the others.

Does Roomie co-exist nicely with Indigo Software on a Mac for home automation? I'm looking at using Indigo to control Insteon lights and switches. Since Indigo runs on a Mac, it makes sense to use the same Mac that is already running Roomie Agent and HTPC software (Plex). Indigo looks a lot more user-friendly and configurable/extensible than an ISY994i. That thing stills uses Java (full Java, not Javascript) as the primary UI and the web interface to ISY994i is simply ancient/poor.

Yes, Roomie works well with Indigo. Indigo also works best with the 24XX products like the 2413U rather than the newer Insteon Hub.

One hopes that Insteon will introduce a better controller one day given how...

2014

Hi,

just decided to try to integrate my lightning (Fiabro) to Roomie.

I just can't figure out how to add commands to the slider. On/Off works perfect (really fast too), and I can add buttons for specific dim levels. But I can't add commands to the slider, the option just isn't there like for the buttons.



Any ideas? Tried both on an iPad and an iPhone.

Fibaro is not a feedback device, at least not yet. Feedbacks provided for devices are listed here:

Device Compatibility

Thank you.

Hi,

Would feedback for Fibaro devices be available any time soon?

2013

So I have my Lutron integration report (it contains all light switch/keypad ID numbers, as well as corresponding button numbers). I was wondering what format I should be using to control a specific button on the device I want.
For example, if my living room switch's integration ID is 42, I would put in "42" in the "Default Device" field for my Lutron lighting device on my Living Room tab.
But say I want to control a keypad with integration ID 46, button 3, what would be the correct notation for Roomie to recognize both the integration ID AND correct button on that keypad?
Currently I am able to toggle lighting loads on/off and percentage dimming, but cannot control keypad buttons like I tried to explain above. I have been able to do this by putting the integration ID, "42," into the "Default Device" field.

Sorry for my ignorance, but I found some additional settings when going through Commands for a specific Activity. I see that I can set the Integration ID here, as well as Brightness (0-100). However, it is still unclear how to specify a particular button on a keypad.

Controlling a button simply uses a different command, and the button commands ask you for both your Integration ID and Button ID. For instance the command .BUTTON PRESS will ask for that.

2012

Shades & Blinds

Staff response: Best choice if you want full Homebar support is any HomeKit Shade -- you would use a Lutron Connect box to do this with RR2.

2020

Hi
Very happy with my RoomieRemote set up but keen to finish the cinema room. I have two questions:
1) Blinds threads seem quiet for a while. Which are the best to integrate in? Ideally they would be rechargeable and Wi-fi but open to ideas. I currently have an iFlex IR blaster so anything that would work with that would be ideal
2) I’ve used SONOFF devices throughout the house which use the eWeLink app - are there any options for connecting? Otherwise what is best for replacing them that integrates in to RR?

Many thanks, in advance!

Dan

2020

Is there any support available for latest Hunter Douglas Powerview hubs. They have Alexa working on it - Simple Control integration would be great and make sense for more complete lighting and climate control.

I got this working with the help of the support team. There is no official support for Hunter Douglas, but I got something rudimentary working that is able to activate scenes from within Simple Control. There is an http interface to the gen 2 powerview hub. What it does not do is discovery right now, so you have to manually run an http command to get the scene IDs for your particular installation:

http://[IP address of hub]/api/scenes

Then you can make this work in a few ways. The absolute easiest that doesn't require any usage of the DDK is to create custom URL buttons (or add custom start/stop commands that don't require a button) to activate individual scenes. The http is just:

http://[IP address of hub]/api/scenes?sceneId=[scene ID]

so for example it would look like this:

http://192.168.1.10/api/scenes?sceneId=1234

You can test this just in any browser from any device connected to your WIFI. Make sure you capitalize the I in sceneId or it won't work.

If you want to get a little fancier, you can create a "code set" using the DDK and then add a device manually that will show up as a real device, but you still have to either harcode the scene IDs, or add a special scene command where you end up specifying the scene Id in the button definition.

Either of these approaches is a good stop-gap until they get official support for it. The first approach (URL commands) is probably the way to go - much simpler, and no need for the DDK. There may be a way to add individual shade manipulation with different http commands, but I think the scene approach lends itself better to integration with Simple Control.

Good luck!

Kevin

Thanks very much for that. I had the command syntax slightly off when I tried the http approach. I think I was also trying to control at the device level. It’s been a while since I tried it. This should help.
I used the same approach to successfully get control of a pool/spa/lighting using the Autelis pool controller.

Harvey

2018

Question: I just bought about 20 shades thru Somfy and was wondering about integration, I read that I would need the Universal URTS controller to make it work however they now also have a new app with a small bridge called MyLink....would that also work?

Staff response: The URTS II is their serial controller, we do have a codeset for that.

Despite constant contacts going back years, Somfy has refused to release an IP control protocol so they're basically incompatible with integration via IP. You may want to encourage them to do so, you wont be the first. Serial remains the best option for now.

They do, they just don't publish it. We do have leads now and so it's possible in the future. But we have been trying to extract these teeth for several years so we'll see.

There is no debate this information is now available. We have the info. We are just waiting on test hardware from Somfy.

You can name them in the manifest editor for the device.

2017

**Which remote (IR or RF) blinds would you recommend to use with Roomie? I would like to have blinds which are battery powered. I saw the Serena remote controlled shades, but how can I get these to work with Roomie? Are there other remote controlled shade vendors you would recommend?

Thanks,

Neil

**Somfy is well-known for wireless RF shades. We do have their codes in the main library and use them here actually.

However, Lutron just introduced all kinds of new wireless shades at CEDIA, and we have extensive support for Lutron Radio RA 2 that should work well with those so that would also be something to look into.

**I had the same question.

Do the Hunter Douglas products work with Roomie? I can't find a thread that claims that it does.

**They came by our booth at CEDIA but we have not had a chance to follow up with each other. They did seem to have serial codes so it should be easy enough to send codes to their devices with the DDK.

**Unfortunately, the new less expensive Lutron shades (Serena) don't work with the Lutron RadioRA2. They used to have both RF and IR control, but they discontinued the IR remote. I'm not sure if this means the shades no longer have the IR receiver or not.

If not, an option would be to hack the RF remote by opening it and soldering leads between the remote and the iTach IP to Contact Closure box.
A pretty rough solution, but I think it would work. And these shades are really nice for the $$. So I think it would be worth it.

2013

Audio

Hello,

Wondering if like Sonos products, Bose soundbars (and in particular the newest 900 soundbar) can be controlled via IP via the roomie remote app? The app doesn't recognise the device via auto search (it does find my sonos one speakers). This tells me I can't IP control the soundbar via the roomie remote app. I am only trying to control the volume on the soundbar (which I can do with the Bose's own iOS remote app).

Staff response: Compatibility information is listed at the top of the website. If that unit you mention is part of the SoundTouch series as listed, it should work. It might work even if not. It's up to Bose.

2021

I'm creating a custom device for Storm Audio receivers. They have a well documented API that is telnet + LF based. I've got the basics working (so it is definitely connecting), however I can't get volume set to work. The code is here on github.

The receiver users pure decibals, negatively signed. So I've set the .VOLUME FORMAT to 1. It then expects the command "ssp.vol.[-XX.X]" to set the volume, for example "ssp.vol.[-30.5]". So I've set .VOLUME SET to ssp.vol.[##] and have also set .VOLUME STATUS to ssp.vol. It doesn't work.

Anyone know where I've gone wrong?

I reviewed your code, compared to both sets of documentation, and things look right.

I have two possible suggestions:

1) ssp.vol.[xx] format as documented in Storm API, are the brackets literal or documentation only? In other words, have you tried ssp.vol.xx? I doubt this is it, but throwing it out there.
2) As you indicated, the documentation says it is +LF. Roomie says it can send CR (lineio) or CRLF (lineio-crlf), but not LF. Could this be it? I am not sure how to get Roomie to send just LF other than possibly switching to binary or binary-ack mode where you would then encode each command and then end with a \\x10.

Other troubleshooting steps:

- Have you tried connecting directly with telnet command just to validate how the syntax is working?
- Could you put nginx in front of the receiver to proxy on behalf of Roomie? This could A) let you see the traffic flows and / or B) strip the CR if that is indeed the problem. Another option for A is to configure your switch for port mirroring and then attach to that port with WireShark to see the traffic.

HTH. Good lucks. If you solve it please post back so we can all learn.

Pretty much in line with what bjs says, I would connect via telnet and then start by doing ssp.vol to see what you get back. Then you know that it is accepting commands and hopefully also if the brackets should be there or not.
Then you could also try a ssp.vol.up and see what that does. If all that is good try ssp.vol.[-30] or ssp.vol.-30 depending on what you get from above.
(all this followed by a linefeed of course)

If all that works try the same in Roomie, then at least you know where to look for the problem.

2021

Question: I am transitioning over to the AudioControl Maestro x9 Audio Video processor. It allows full IP control.

Is there a plan to add this to the compatibility list? This is a hell of an AV processor and a great addition to the out of the box integrations.

https://www.audiocontrol.com/home-audio/immersive-av-preamp-processors/maestro-x9/

Staff response: We don't have this receiver. We have added support for many receivers we don't have on site. It requires an interested and dedicated user with access to the device and the technical ability to find the API and verify it on their device. Get the codeset discussed above working which appears to provide all the basic functionality, obtain the API to get volume/etc, send it us and state you're willing to beta feedback support. Usually it's a ~30 day process start to finish if the user is capable of installing frequent betas and verifying implementation.

2021

Has anyone had, or a user can you recommend, good sound bars with IP control. None are on listed on the compatibility page, and although I’ve seen Sonos and Denon listed in previous posts (over 1 year ago), I’m looking for current/updated suggestions if available. Thanks!

And perhaps a better solution is to use a soundbar with HDMI CEC who’s volume can be controlled by TV remote (and thus Roomie in that way)?

I use Sonos and they work flawlessly have Volume reported back as well. The new Atmos version may be worth a look

2019

Question: I thought it might be helpful to have a thread re controlling Sonos in v.5 since we're all starting to settle in with the new layout. Lot to like in terms of the "clean" and simple layout. One issue I'm having that I'm hoping someone can help out on: I have my Sonos linked to various accounts, including Pandora and SiriusXM. I'm finding that v5 won't allow me to switch from a Pandora stream to a Sirius XM stream. All my favorites appear in the Songs Guide under Sonos favorites, but when I ...

Staff response: Any custom buttons or designs you may have established in a prior version are unchanged. The release announcement covers that:

Have not tried that, but it sounds like something you could probably get working with a .SOURCE SET or .TRANSPORT SET command. This is the kind of thing impossible to diagnose in a forum because the first requirement is a diagnostic.

That language is mostly correct. I would just make sure to distinguish "services" from everything else like media feedback, music library and queue and playlist browsing/guide/control, etc.

The only piece that suddenly didn't work when Sonos broke it is the browsing of Pandora stations. The chances are good that we will be able to add that back at some point. Once playing, everything else works fine.

If they are a stereo pair, you should ideally add just one of them. While in principle you can do things with each of them, it's much cleaner to deal with them as one.

Sonos has no API at present officially for doing any of that. While most things like music library browsing and internet radio still work fine today in SC5, starting content from third-party services like Spotify needs our special .TRANSPORT SET commands, etc.

The good news is that Sonos states they are building such an API. Last year they released the first version of it, but the current official API has no handling whatsoever of music services so would actually be a big downgrade for us to switch to that right now. We look forward to the future API. Given it's not available yet, you should definitely be measuring that kind of thing in quarters or years. The beta process alone for Sonos would likely be half a year is my guess.

2017

Question: I have 11 Sonos Connects in my house.
Sonos gives the ability to set a player to Line In from a different player.
So for example, my living room sonos has a line in. I want to be able to listen to the living room's line-in, using my bedroom sonos.
Sonos allows this, but I can't find a way to do it in roomie. I see the .LINEIN SET, but it doesn't allow me to specify which line in. It just uses the line in from the current sonos player.

If this is not currently doable, please ad this to a futu...

Staff response: Just group it with the Connect with that Line In. "Grouping" is effectively setting the source of the grouped player to the source of the master for the group.

Community reply: Sonos allows this, but I can’t find a way to do it in roomie. I see the .LINEIN SET, but it doesn’t allow me to specify which line in. It just uses the line in from the current sonos player.

Since this topic is so old, I'm not sure if I should reply here or start a new topic, so I'll start here. I see several threads suggesting that grouping is the answer for selecting a different line-in source for a Sonos player. This does not solve the problem gchityat118 identified in the original post. Here's a sample configuration I'll use to illustrate the problem:

line-in source > Sonos Device > Room Speakers

DirecTV1 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp1 .. > .. Living Room
DirecTV2 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp2 .. > .. Bedroom
DirecTV3 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp3 .. > .. Kitchen

There are 3 Connect:Amps, each driving speakers in a different room. Each room has its own TV fed by a 4x4 matrix switch. The switch has HDMI inputs from 3 different DirecTV receivers so any DirecTV receiver can be routed to any TV.

Additionally, the audio from each receiver is fed to an input of one of the Connect:Amps as shown above.

Let's assume each room is playing the following audio:

line-in source > Sonos Device > Room Speakers > Audio Playing

DirecTV1 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp1 .. > .. Living Room.. > .. Pandora Station
DirecTV2 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp2 .. > .. Bedroom.. > .. Spotify Station
DirecTV3 audio .. >.. Connect:Amp3 .. > .. Kitchen.. > .. SiriusXM Radio

gchityat118 wants to be able to listen to the DirecTV1 audio in the Bedroom, but still listen to the Pandora Station in the Living Room. The Sonos app allows you to route the DirecTV1 line-in audio from the Connect:Amp1 to the Connect:Amp2 in the Bedroom.

Grouping devices in Roomie won't solve the problem, as there is no Sonos Device playing the DirecTV1 audio. Grouping the Connect:Amp2 with the Connect:Amp1 would simply play the Pandora Station in the Bedroom, not the DirecTV1 audio.

The ideal feature would be to have the ability to select the specific input for the .LINEIN SET via a dropdown box, just as you can select the specific Sonos Device for the .SOURCE SET command. Is there any way to accomplish this with the existing feature set?

If not, is there any plan to add this functionality to Roomie?

It's a very long explanation, so I'm not sure I got every nuance of it. It doesn't sound very complicated though. I feel like it could have been written in 1-2 sentences to simplify it. Regardless, all I'm seeing above is a .SOURCE SET command sent to Connect:Amp2 with a parameter of Connect:Amp1. That is how you "group" things programatically.

Community reply: Thanks for the quick response (on a replay to a 4-year old old post!), but it seems as though we a...

2016

Can this be done?

I want to create buttons in Roomie, that will start the receiver, go to the correct input, adjust volume for all Sonos speakers, and then start a specific Pandora station

I have everything working except setting and playing the specific Pandora stations.

Thanks for any help

The .TRANSPORT SET command can be used for that per this post:

configuration-and-setup-archives/sonos-and-spotify-t10175.html

2015

Hi all, I am looking for some help to create the custom coding for a mono price multi zone audio system. I have the control list from the manual, and I have Xcode but I have no idea where to begin. I started a plist but I could use a hand just getting started on the codes then I should be able to figure it out from there.

The manual is located here

monopricehub.com/files/manua ... 140402.pdf

It is a very large file, pg 14-15 have the codes needed for rs232 control

That looks like a good start. Now just enter the codes from the document. For instance, the value for POWER OFF should be "PR00" without the quotes.

For an added bonus, add a .VOLUME FORMAT with a value of 403 per the DDK. Then add a .VOLUME SET with a command of "VO##". That will enable the volume screen, but will allow some volume values at the top range that aren't supported by the device.

Ok, do I have to add a code in order for it to control only the zone which is in use?

From what I see, which could very likely be wrong, is that the code for power off in zone 1 could be "11PR01" but I also think it could be "11PRPP01" as the first section in the document shows xxPPuu as the command structure. Let me know what you think, or if I am over thinking it completely.

The document is vague. We'd advise asking the manufacturer if your first few tests don't seem to be right.

Any status on this? Interested in helping out here as I have the same objective.

Any update on this? I don't see Monoprice listed as a manufacturer under the Multizone System in the Simple Control app. Would be great to get a custom code if someone else has developed.

2014

Do you have control of sonos to call line in? I know you can always use the sonos remote to select line in but if roomie could, then you could have better use when using the line in for a TV output.

Sure, just send the command .LINEIN SET to the device. Then send a PLAY command.
Thank you.

THANKS!

I've gotten .line set to work wonderfully when the speakers I'm using are connected to the Sonos device for which I'm doing the .Linein set. How do I listen that to that line-in from on a different sonos device? I assumed I would use ".Source" for this, with a parameter of something like "Home Theater: Family Room" (where "Home Theater" is the name I gave to the line-in for the family room. Help please.

Thanks,

Ed

Grouping is accomplished using the Group button at the top of any Sonos Virtual Remote.

Thank you.

I don't want to group. I want to set the source of a particular sonos Connect:amp to a line-in that is not the line-in on that amp, but rather the line-in on a different Connect.

Thanks,

Ed

Right. That's called Grouping because you want to group Sonos 1 and Sonos 2 together such that Sonos 2 follows whatever Sonos 1 is doing.

Thank you.

Sorry, what I'm talking about is not grouping, and further in its general form can't be done with grouping (though as noted a subcase of it can be). Let me give you an example. Suppose I have two Sonos Connect:AMPS, call them A and B, each with something connected to their respective Line-Ins. Sonos allows me to have the Source for A be B:Line-In, and the source for B be A:LIne-In. The reason this is an important distinction is that it means that even if B isn't putting sound out its speakers (i.e B has no music source selected), I can still use as a source in another room B's Line-in. Even further, B could playing a COMPLETELY different music source (Rhapsody, etc...) and A can still use B's line-in as a music source. Hence you can see this is very different from Grouping.

So why do I care. I know you guys are busy so I'm not trying to waste your time. Two reasons:

(1) Though grouping doesn't really do what I want, as explained below I could probably use it if I could automate it as part of an activity. Is there a way to insert commands as part of an activity that would automatically group two named sonos players without requiring the user to select the players via the UI (that's what seems to be required using the virtual remote)?

(2) as to what I'm doing: In my house I have a centralized cabinet that has Connect:amps for each room. This is my whole home distribution system. In addition in some rooms (those with TVs and no fancy receiver), I have various devices (STB, Apple TV) plugged directly into the TV. So far so good and roomie works perfectly for controlling all of this. In addition in those rooms I have a Sonos Connect (no amp) whose line-in is connected to the audio output of the TV (and the TV's internal speak...

2013

**I have a Sonos system with 2 Media Players 5 associated as one Stereo Pair, plus a Sonos Sub, associated to the pair as well. This confuses Roomie totally. It detects one of the three items, then keeps switching from one to the next, each time detecting a new IP and posting a warning that it "updates the IP of the item". Not only it doesn't work, but you can't get rid of the warning which keeps popping, and Roomie is then totally unusable.

**We can imagine that behavior might occur if some of the Sonos devices had the same name. Normally, Sonos devices have a unique name like "Living Room". If you had multiple Sonos devices named "Speaker" or something like that, that would cause the behavior you describe (in the current version anyway). Giving each Sonos device a unique name should resolve it.

**If you pool 2 Media Players 5 and a Sub into one stereo set, they appear in the Sonos App under one single name. I don't think you can access each element to change their name, unless you diasagregate the set. The problem is that Roomie seems to see them as 3 different elements (the model of the element changes as Roomie switches from one the the next) with different IPs (which they have) and at the same time it gets confused because it reads that it is a single item (which is the case from the Sonos point of view).

**We recommend contacting support so that we can get the results of a Collect Diagnostics run from your network to see how your Sonos devices are actually identifying themselves. support@roomieremote.com

To run that test, just turn on Collect Diagnostics, go to the 'Add Device' screen in Roomie. Leave it open for about a minute. Then exit and go back to Settings, tap Send Diagnostics, then turn off Collect Diagnostics. Then email support to let them know you sent that with the time of the submission and we'll take a look.

**OK Diagnostic sent 15mn ago! We'll see what comes out...

E.

**We have determined that the way your Sonos devices are configured will cause the issue you're seeing. We have fixed the issue in the next release of Roomie. If you'd like, support can force your configuration to work by editing your Roomie.plist file. Regardless, you'll also see the fix in Roomie 1.7.

2012

I am using Roomie to control Sonos and have found that there is limited control. I am not able to create playlists and edit them. I am wondering if you have plans to control this in the future? Or am I missing something in the operation platform. Thanks, I am very much enjoying using Roomie remote.

We generally figure creating playlists is something better done in the Sonos desktop app as it is somewhat cumbersome. From a Roomie perspective, our time is likely better focused on playlist management. No real reason not to add it in the future other than the reasoning that users are not as likely to use Roomie for that kind of functionality.

I can appreciate that. I am really enjoying having Roomie as an all in one solution ( do not want to open the Sonos App at all). If I don't have to.Well thanks for the reply.

is there any update on when we might be able to search in sonos for artists and tracks?



Cheers

Nath

2012

Other Devices

Just checking if there is enough demand to implement YoLink direct support…

Staff response: Link doesn't seem to work and not familiar... so this is a water leak detector, why don't they just put it on HomeKit as we already support those?

There are quite a few devices the most interesting ones are the FOBs that link to Alexa

Here is link again

http://doc.yosmart.com/docs/overall/intro/

2025

Question: Hi Will - I’ve seen your past posts on the topic and know that you knew this was coming, but now that Amazon has officially communicated the end of life notice, I thought I’d start a conversation about it.

Our family uses the original skill every day. It’s the way every TV in our house is turned on and off, and having it stop working in November is going to be rocky. I’ll start retraining the fam (including me) to use the Roomie voice control skill now… but just wanted to put my vote out ther...

Staff response: The “original” Alexa Skill is the one named “Roomie Remote”, and it is working fine, can be added for new users right now, and AFAIK will continue working fine for the foreseeable future. At the moment, it even works with Roomie 10 in development (in other words, we didn’t remove it). There are 4 people left using that skill at least as measured over the last week. The reason for that in my view as I’ve said for years is that Amazon completely nuked the user experience about 5 years ago for every Skill. Skills (and arguably Alexa) cratered in the years that followed. Now I barely know anyone that uses Alexa. For a while there, it was like having a microwave, a standard home feature. Because of various changes they made, Amazon Skills became near unusable (eg. reading out the entire company name of the vendor for every single skill interaction). So at that point you either migrated to some other voice solution, dropped voice, or you switched to the Smart Home Skill.

Around 2017, Amazon introduced a Smart Home Skill system, and we had briefly renamed ourselves to Simple Control, so we called that skill Simple Control. It is still named that. The Smart Home Skill API was very slimmed down, just intended really to turn on/off lights and shades and such. Not designed to control an AV system. We shoe-horned into that for simple use cases. Just recently, they removed all such skills for new users, and will remove them for even current users in November as you note. (and as covered in at least one other thread here recently)

Yes, they do have a new, totally different system now. We could indeed develop a totally new integration for that. There are some unknowns as to whether it is really just software development or may involve additional certification as the original process did indeed involve many months (I remember it as six extra months, but my memory may be foggy on that) of extra certification with a high cost. Perhaps the certification will just carry forward. One can hope.

Today, 23 people use that skill (this week). While I am often a sucker for little features with only a few users, we implement things often that I know this specific device or use case only has a very small user base, etc. But I can compare 23 versus every other device we support as an example. There are a bunch of random devices with fewer users than that, but safe to say 23 is in the bottom 5% of devices used.

So at the moment we’re continuing work on V10. That will continue uninterrupted until it is finished which is sometime this Fall. Roomie 10 does include the new iOS 26 Speech Analyzer support which is basically a quality upgrade with far-field voice support for the Roomie Voice Control we have. It is definitely an upgrade. If you can put an iPhone/iPad in your voice zones, it’s clearly superior, faster, etc than Alexa. It’s now 100% local and you don’t have to be right next to it.

Alexa’s advantage is cost because you can place it in more zones for lower cost. Wh...

2025

Question: Has anyone been able to get the Valerion VM Pro 2 to work in Roomie?

Staff response: It says it’s a Google TV. Have you started with that? The documentation provides steps for various connection methods based on what control methods they support.

Such an obscure device you really should call them and ask how it is supposed to work for the kind of control methods you need.

2025

I just started using this app and I’m enjoying getting into it. Successfully added my Monolith HTP-1 and everything else is native. Anyway, I added iTunes from my Mac and I can pull up my local library but can’t seem to figure out how to access Apple Music. The site says it’s supported so I must be missing something.

Staff response: Apple Music is a service, it's not a controllable thing. So your question doesn't make sense in the context of Roomie. We don't control services per se, we control devices.

2024

Question: Hi,

I’d like to add a MadVR Envy Extreme to Roomie Remote.
I don’t see it listed in Roomie’s ‘add device’ Video Renderer list.
Typical commands needed are:
- wake from standby when the system is turned-on. Note: MadVR will automatically turn-off after 20 minutes of inactivity.
- switch profiles 1 thru 10 with ability to name each profile.

Thanks!

Staff response: We provide a Custom Devices feature for exactly this reason. This is not a listed device so you need to paste the commands into a custom device.

Great, you could attach it here or send it to support, and we'll throw it in the library.

I'm sure it's a wonderful device, we just don't have one and the codes for it are super simple. We could add them, but I don't add without testing. Your testing is sufficient.

I don't think it would help my own home theater, so I also can't really justify it as a cheat. I use a Barco Balder CinemaScope which has a lens that is natively 2.39 and various morphing options within that working well. So the aspect ratio stuff would be out. Which leaves improved HDR tone mapping, not sure that's worthwhile on a super high end projector?

The codeset sent to us by a user for this device was cleaned up and added to the main library. This is the port 3000 protocol.

Obviously all of your tests/comments are invalidated by a custom design you must have created which is why you didn't even see most of the codes. Reset Design. Difficult to tell if anything is valid above other than the incorrect port since you didn't actually see the codeset.

Port 44077 is corrected though since it is a manually added device, technically irrelevant on our side.

2024

Question: Hey Will,

Curious if you might be considering support for the WiiM Ultra? WiiM has been around for a while, but the Ultra was only released a couple months ago. It has gained a lot of popularity. I recently bought one.

Quick searching found they have a limited API intended to control their WiiM Mini, but the commands do work on the Ultra when I tested from Postman. Additional searching also indicates the device has good UPnP support, but I am unfamiliar with that stack.

Device:

[WiiM Ultra |...

Staff response: WiiM Ultra

Had to Google it. It has a lot of holes on the back. Not otherwise familiar. I assume it's basically a Sonos system clone? I would suggest working up a custom codeset for it and then if you end up needing some kind of code change, request it via a support ticket by sending the API and working (to the extent possible) codeset.

2024

Question: I've had a Ziddo player almost a year. No trouble with control via IP. Then, about 4 months ago...it would not work. I checked the IP address, nothing changed. So I switched to Wifi. It worked. It did that for a day, then it stopped. So, I go back to ethernet. It worked...for about a day, and so on. The address in Roomie and on the Ziddo are matching...but no control. The Ziddo remote I have to have out so I can keep switching between the 2 to get control. Don't know why it's ...

Staff response: Zidoo needs a Restart every few days. Have you tried the basics like that? Zidoo is very stable connection-wise, but give it a couple days and nothing works without a Restart on those things. Definitely don't go Serial. And don't try to switch interfaces. Get Ethernet working, which maybe is just a restart for you. Also, update your Zidoo firmware, you didn't specify version and they fix things often. Finally, not all Zidoo are created equal so not specifying your model might make all comments invalid. Latest is 6.4.68 for Z9X and for Z9X Pro it's 1.0.95.

TLDR: This has nothing to do with Roomie and everything to do with your Zidoo setup.

2024

I’ve recently upgrade from an older version. I had done a great deal of programming several years ago and have since sold that home and moved everything to the new home. Previously I had all devices in one ‘Home’ and now have them split between two homes/two different networks. How can I peel what was a room from my primary home and paste it into the second home?

While looking for a solution I attempted the following;
Back up Home A
Rename Home A to Home B
Restore Home A from the Back up
I thought it would in essence create a duplicate home but it did not. It appears that a Back up is of the entire confirguration?

Staff response: This idea is just so prone to failure that it really shouldn't get an official response as that would imply there is a correct way to do this. This is theoretically possible with extensive hand-editing of the plist files which obviously is not recommended for any normal user.

Thanks Will. My days of editing plists are gone. I’ll go down the reprogramming route.

2024

I can successfully control my Storm processor via a custom device. I am looking to set this as the primary volume control, but that option isn't available on the device settings page.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Staff response: See the DDK linked from the KB. You need to have a specific set of codes as the minimum bar to be eligible as a volume device. VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN named exactly that way as an example. This is in the DDK.

Thank you! That worked.

The only problem I have now is that the mute button only turns the mute on, but when I toggle the button again, it does not unmute the TV. I've attached a screenshot of my settings.

Staff response: Please review the DDK. As shown there, the toggle command above needs to be "MUTE TOGGLE".

2024

Help. Anyone know what IR device one can select in Roomie app to control an Arris Xi6-A or model AX061AEI ? I know it can be switched to IR mode and they are used by various cable companies, but selecting a few popular cable companies and Arris does not show any model numbers similar to that.
Thanks
Erik

Okay, so with some trial and error, I found the Xfinity X1 set top box uses the same command set. However, some of the commands operate differently than their name - e.g. the Xfinity X1 power off command turns on the Xi6, and power on command turns it off. Is there a way to copy an existing device command set and layout and create a new/custom device command set / layout - similar to creating custom code set but starting with a copy from another instead of starting from scratch?

2023

Hi folks,

I recently added an Amazon Fire Cube to one of my rooms for several reasons (mainly wired port). It has the added bonus of having an IR emitter built in and a port to add extended emitters inside cabinets. I have a few questions to see if someone else already knows this.

1. Has anyone gotten other IR emitters to work? I have a pile of Xantech/Speaker craft bits around that I would be happy to repurpose. The Zon's $19 price for an extender does not break the bank but I figured I would ask the community.
2. Once the Cube is in the mode to send out the commands locally, and not via the IR remote, will IP based commands do the same thing? Is it possible to address a specific device being controlled by the cube? e.g. Say I want to start up music mode, and the Cube has my Marantz as part of the system, could I send a command to turn just the Marantz on and set an input via RR using IP?

Thank you community,
PN

2023

Question: Question on Roomie Remote

If a device is not in the compatiability list on Roomies website how do you go about getting them supported for the remote?

Example I don't see
Arcam AVR20
HDFury Vrroom
HTPC Kodi MadVR build.

Also what IRBlaster should be used?

Thanks for your time.

Staff response: These sound like support questions. As it states, the Compatibility list is a minimum set. There are actually a lot more code sets. But at a high level:

We have a bunch of Arcam models in there.
We have a bunch of HDFury. Support has a set for something called "DIVA" they can send to you, regardless these kinds of little code sets with like 8 commands are so easy to create and so numerous.
Not sure why "HTPC" or "MadVR" are relevant to control. I assume your third item is really just "Kodi" which we support. The other aspects shouldn't be relevant.

IR Blasters are covered on the Compatibility page.

Harmony didn't really have IP control, so safe to say that's going to be infrared unless you find it is controllable with the Kodi set which would be a humungous upgrade for you. OTOH since it's a PC, there are many ways to control it. It's been a very long time since I've suggested it, but all the old Windows code sets are still in there like MCE Controller, etc. Between infrared, MCE, direct Kodi, I assume you can find one or more that work. I would strongly recommend the Kodi set if you can get it going with whatever that derivative is.

I am not sure really what you're asking about a "repeater". Anyway, the Setup Guide has like 20% of its content dedicated to Blasters so there is ample documentation on this topic for further information.

2023

Question: Has any tired eisy the new hub from universal devices? While using with Insteon PLM it seems it’s just a replacement of isy 994, so h/w wise there should be no change, but wondering if RR will simply support using the current process.

Staff response: I've heard the name but know nothing about it.

Yes, as I said, I'm aware of it. Either we need a ton of users requesting some kind of support for it, enough to justify us buying it, or they need to send us a test unit. Neither of those has occurred. I don't have any data that indicates it doesn't work perfectly actually. So there's no known issue here.

2023

Question: Adding a new Brightlink HDP-MXB88DA matrix switcher to environment. Existing control sets don't seem to work either by Telnet (port 23) or raw TCP/IP (port 8000).

I have previously used the DDK to add a Muxlabs matrix switcher to my environment, but wanted to use the Custom Devices UI in the app this time around.

I note that Telnet has a CRLF option, but I am wondering if the Socket IO options supports a way of sending CRLF as Brightlink advises best practice is to use raw TCP/IP on port 8000...

Staff response: SocketIO is a very specific thing used only (to our knowledge) by Samsung 2014/2015 TVs (H/J). This is not a generic term like "input output via Unix Sockets circa 1978". So there is no chance that would be the right choice in this case. Without a protocol document I don't know what to say. My guess is you're using the wrong port and not having a protocol document is presumably why you don't know that.

Looks pretty standard lineio-crlf on port 8000. You can check the input/output in the diagnostic log to see what's going on.

Most of the release notes for over a year have been referencing the extensive logging functionality added especially for iPad and Macs. Whole separate windows, live logging, it's pretty neat and seems like it's hard to miss at this point?
Telnet LF is the same as lineio-crlf. More info is in the DDK.

2023

I’m sure this has been asked, but I can’t find it. Can someone point me towards directions to add a logitech harmony hub to Roomie, and then be able to access it via the app to turn on an activity?

I added the IP and the hub shows in my devices. Now I don’t know how to pick an activity from that hub and use it to turn on my TV. For example, I want to activate the “turn on the TV“ activity from my iPhone.

I am new, the app looks great in helpful, and I think I’m missing a simple button click that will make me very happy!

Staff response: This information is on the Compatibility page:
Device Compatibility

Lots of other details are here on this forum.

2022

Question: Hey, how can we get for HDFury switchers added? They offer full IP, IR, & rs232 support. They uploaded the codesets to the harmony system, but it doesn’t look like they’ve done so here.

In the attached zip, their IP & rs232 instructions are included (and incredibly simple to follow). I tried to add my device via the custom devices in Roomie, but I’m not sure how to tell if I’m sending the basic IP commands. Adding the code sets seem easy enough, but setting up Roomie isn’t straight forward (an...

Staff response: This looks totally straightforward. The commands are there in the file with "ip" in the title. The connection type would be Telnet. The codes can then just be pasted right into the Custom Code Sets editor. Not sure what advice to give since this isn't a strange case, very generic. Also, entering the codes can be fully analyzed/debugged live using the pinch to zoom log, and tested ahead of time using a normal telnet connection to their box.

Using the Export option on that page would be the much more direct way of doing that.

2022

Question: Hey Guys,

I’m hoping for a bit of guidance with how to setup a MadVR Envy video processor.

This is the write up on it in the link below, but I’m not entirely sure how to make it work with Roomie.

Any suggestions as to the Protocol would certainly help.

http://madvr.com/EnvyIpControl.pdf?r=112

Much appreciated!

Staff response: In theory I just made some changes that might allow reasonable plist attachments in posts. Otherwise, you can just zip them.

2022

Question: Could you provide a bit more info on this new feature in 7.5. build 2442? How do the channel buttons auto-populate?

Jeff

Staff response: Tune channels from the guide for a channel based activity (eg. TiVo, DISH, etc.). Now reload the activity. Margin buttons (only visible on iPad screen sizes) will now be filled with channel buttons automatically updating each reload based on last usage of that channel from the guide).

1. If you edit the Design after the dynamic button exists, it should remain part of the Design. These buttons cannot currently be created manually.
2. These are specific to the device. If you have the same device in multiple activities (such as a TiVo shared by a video distribution system in multiple rooms), they will be shared. However, they are also not shared in your configuration as they are local to the device. This lets one person's frequent channels not override another person's in a different room.
3. At the moment, you would need to delete the app and re-install to completely clear this cache. Or create a customized Design before tuning channels in which case we never override a customized Design even if the button is blank.
4. No.

In general, I'd be ok with adding a button to nuke the cache. Don't really see a need for turning the whole thing off because creating a Design is the same as turning it off. I'm not aware of any downsides. So if there are real ones, let me know.

Margin Buttons are all gravy. They don't have official positions. They flow in from the tray based on an internal prioritization. So for instance your Function Green button belongs in the Tray as per the Design editor, but because you have 4 open margins, we flow it into the margin on iPads. So, given margin buttons don't have positions, channel button promotion is now first followed by tray promotion as the ActionPanel is in layout. Any buttons you don't see are in the tray where they always have been on iPhone. I am not sure though how any buttons in your case would overflow the margins because you have tons of margin space left in your screenshot. Every spot should be filled.

The case of a customized Design blocking channel promotion is not in the build you have. That's the intent though. However, most likely, customizing the Design at all will basically turn off all channel promotion, and there is no way to create these buttons manually right now.

Many changes here in next build. Try it when it goes out.

It's permanent. As long as most people seem to like it? I can hardly even describe the previous ordering. It followed a UI Designer's complex ordering system from like 2016 and in updating the code I just decided it would be better to do something logical that was obvious especially if we're giving users the need to manage these spaces a little more. In principle though, there are some minor downsides. However, the overall flow with channel buttons now seems like it will make much better use of every button space. A potential enhancement is to flow channel buttons into only free space of custom designs. Because once you customize a design right now, you will never have any ch...

2022

Just checking if anyone has used a HDMI multi viewer…4 HDMI inputs and 1 output with PIP, split screens, there are quite a few with IR control, but wish to know if any with IP control and supports roomie remote

https://www.amazon.com/TESmart-Multi-Viewer-Updated-Powered-A60-Quad/dp/B07Z4PWCHC/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1Q6HLDSWRBLM8&keywords=hdmi%2Bmultiviewer&qid=1659363216&sprefix=%2Caps%2C380&sr=8-13&th=1

I found this hope we can get LAN support for this

Better model

https://www.amazon.com/TESmart-Multi-Viewer-Updated-Powered-A60-Quad/dp/B07Z4PWCHC/ref=sr_1_13?crid=1Q6HLDSWRBLM8&keywords=hdmi%2Bmultiviewer&qid=1659363216&sprefix=%2Caps%2C380&sr=8-13&th=1

I have successful used both AVProHD and Altona matrix switches which are directly supported and I also added an HDFury Vertex switcher using custom commands. All worked fine.

2022

I'm a Harmony user today and with their recent announcement of shutting down, I'm looking at alternatives. I have two devices (Zone Amp controllers) that are both IR controlled. One thing the hub allows me to do today is assign each one to its own port so I can control which Zone Amp I am sending the commands to. I'm assuming I would need two Global Cache Flex IP-P to make this work and thus if they have different IP addresses, will I be able to control them independently with Roomie Remote?

Is there a different solution I should be looking at?

Staff response: GC Flex adapters typically come with Triport cables that give you 3 independent channels per adapter. Marketing brand names may differ from whatever we call them, but they are all the same cable made by GC.

See page 76 of the Setup Guide:

If the target devices are near each other, you may need to use an emitter cover to eliminate crosstalk:
https://amzn.to/3ggpoP1

2021

i just added a Stewart Screen Device as a custom device on version 6.7

the device is UDP on port 5000

I need to sent a very simple command:

#1.1.0.MOTOR=RECALL,1;\

i have tried putting the command as is in the code field of the custom device and i have tried

\\x23\\x31\\x2e\\x31\\x2e\\x30\\x2e\\x4d\\x4f\\x54\\x4f\\x52\\x3d\\x52\\x45\\x43\\x41\\x4c\\x4c\\x2c\\x31\\x3b\\x0d

i cannot get either to work. when the command shows up under the activity, the upper cases and lower cases are all changed.

The first command shows

#1.1.0.Motor=Recall,1;\\R

And the second command is all changed to upper case.

is this a bug?

Staff response: There is no difference between say \\x2e and \\x2E.

Why don't you export your codeset and attach it and also link to your protocol doc otherwise I don't see how anyone could evaluate whether what you're sending is correct.

All good and working

2021

I know this isn't on the list of compatibility but can you guys please add the Reavon 4k blu ray players? They are now part of the zappiti store but I don't know if IP control will work. This is a great player that can also work with network attached storage devices.

Staff response: Found this as first hit in a Google search. Seems like it would take about 3 minutes to paste these into a Custom Code Set in Settings to give you basic IP control over that. We don't have a test unit or I'd be happy to do it. Works better when a user creates it, gets the basic codes right and tested, and then at the end of the process submit the code set to us and request feedback for the stuff under "Querying Device State" at which point we could put that user into beta and try to add that by observing their diagnostics.

https://gist.github.com/doug-hoffman/421bc2ecda57d2e910888c76e2382cea

2021

I've reviewed the DDK instructions but I also saw a post that said most of that has been deprecated.

My use case. I have a raspberry pi controlling a speaker selector via serial and I've exposed a simple RESTful API on the pi that translates those commands. I want to create a manual IP device and then tie commands like:

POWER_ON > GET http://192.168.1.1/on
POWER_OFF > GET http://192.168.1.1/off
VOLUME_UP > GET http://192.168.1.1/up
VOLUME_DOWN > GET http://192.168.1.1/down
MUTE > GET http://192.168.1.1/mute
SELECT_SOURCE > GET http://192.168.1.1/1

I see the section the app to create new devices and the top part is intuitive but I don't know what to enter in the Codes area and I couldn't find reference documentation.

Thanks!

Staff response: The DDK provides exactly such samples. To see what they look like in the editor, just import the sample into the editor.

2021

Hi all,

I have an Arcam av860 that doe not change sources using the standard Arcam AVR device that is supported. All the other keys work fine though. Now I have used IR learning and was able to get a working device just for the switching.
Is there any way to add those commands in to the device that is already there? Would save a lot of button learning.

Kind regards,
Patrick

Staff response: You just modify the Activity Design to target whichever device has the commands you want. There's no need to merge those behind the scenes. It's just a supplemental code set.

Okay, thanks, I will do it like that.

2021

Howdy, I’m new to Roomie and have been very pleased with the level of integration and support.

With regards to lighting, I’ve been using UPB at home for lighting control for many years. I use a Web Mountain RUC-01 device, which, in addition to other functions, allows me to control my lighting using a iPhone App. Web Mountain does not support Roomie, but they provided the following POST and SEND commands, which are specific to my home equipment and a particular switch.

I’d like to get this working first, before adding more lights, etc.

I’ve reviewed the DDK and found that my knowledge of plist is lacking and needs to be refreshed. The DDK information also mentions that setting up a custom device can be easily handled in settings, without using the DDK. I’m hoping I can use the “Custom Device” feature in Settings without having to rely on the DDK.

I’ve found little documentation on now to configure a custom device, specifically regarding “codes”.

For my project, I assume my steps are the following:

* Create a custom device, say the RUC-01. I assume that I need to provide the IP address for that device in the “codes” section
* Create an activity (On/Off) for each “light” using the GET or POST commands (i.e. On/Off)

I’m hoping somebody can point me to documentation, or provide an example on how to configure a custom device to receive POST or GET commands, and associate activities

POST & GET Commands

Send Command Type POST

URL: http://192.168.2.31/qSend.htm

Data command=07041905FF20B8 to turn ON

command=07041905FF21B7 to turn OFF

Send Command Type GET

URL: http://192.168.2.xx/cgi-bin/cgi_upbtrans.cgi?command =07041905FF20B8 & port = 1 to turn on

No data

URL http://192.168.2.xx/cgi-bin/cgi_upbtrans.cgi?command=07041905FF21B7 & port = 1 to turn off

Thanks in Advance…

2021

In case anyone is using one of the newer processors, this code set adds all the eight inputs, trims for height, width, and sub trim presets +1.5, +3, +6, +9, +12 which is handy. All fits on one panel.

Emotiva-XMC-2 Zone 1-udp.zip|attachment (1.2 KB)

Changed device name to G3P because it should work with the various 3rd gen processors.

Emotiva-G3P Zone 1-udp.zip|attachment (1.2 KB)

2021

These instructions have been updated. See the current version: Google Nest thermostat setup.

Question: Homekit raw devices appear in Roomie Remote but should 'Scenes' appear?
It would be nice to hit a button in RR that than turns on 4 switches and 2 lights in homekit like you can do within homekit from the scene I setup.

Staff response: That's not a current feature. It's on the list. Of course, all you have to do is send the commands from Roomie so the fact there is a simple workaround has kept it pretty low priority.

A HomeKit Scene is a series of commands to HomeKit accessories. Just send the same commands from Roomie. We support HomeKit accessories directly.

Nonsensical. HomeKit Scenes have one operation: Set. "Turning it off" has no meaning in the context of HomeKit. If you have a different scene that sets your accessories to a different state, you can Set that instead. (This is the same behavior as you see for instance in the Home app.)

2021

Question: Does anyone else have an issue with constantly loosing Homekit devices from their Roomie setup? I am constantly having to go to force HomeKit sync to get all my devices to show up, am I missing something? Thanks

Staff response: This means the missing specific device(s) did not respond during the sync. This is usually a physical issue like devices that are too far out of range. You can see it in the Home app with a status like "Not responding". The device will not appear in Roomie if it does not respond. So any accessory that is missing after Roomie's sync needs to be fixed in some way.

HomeKit also displays the "Not Responding" thing. We are more deterministic than they are. If the device does not respond, we won't import it. HomeKit will basically ignore bad device connections and only tell you if it's really unusable. Anyway, something you need to fix.

See my previous post for an explanation of what's going on there –– note your two examples of perhaps the most classic non-responsive items due to their Bluetooth limitation. HomeKit doesn't really care if your device isn't working. We need it to respond at least during sync. If one of your accessories doesn't respond, it won't import. If it stops responding, it will be removed from your device list, and it will be added back later on the next sync if it responds then.

Critical non-negotiable information is not provided when it doesn't respond so it would be useless to try to import it. The typical solutions to these issues in the HomeKit world are more HomeKit repeaters such as HomePods and AppleTVs.

This is not an appropriate forum to go into detail on HomeKit connectivity issues. Safe to say that topic could fill whole search engines.

2021

Question: Hi all,

I have started researching and testing Roomie after the anouncement that Harmony will be discontinued. So far Roomie is looking good and quite flexible and supports most of my devices one way or another.
The one thing I cannot really find information on that answers my questions is hard button remotes other than Harmony.

My scenario is this: Watching a movie in complete darkness and I want to pause the movie or change volume. Currently I grab the remote next to me and one button pres...

Staff response: I would have to wake it up and unlock it and then press the button

This seems to be the crux of your post and everything else you said stems from it. By far the simpler and in my opinion better set of solutions come from resolving that issue for you, not by adding additional hardware.

In a living room scenario where the room is not completely dark, the issue is moot.

In a home theater scenario where the room is completely dark, many options exist. Some that come to mind, I use most or all of these:

* Set the screen brightness to zero when starting a movie. This can be easily set from Control Center. The brightness of the screen is not distracting at that level even in a home theater that is pitch black, but can still be read. Personally, I sleep with devices setup this way right next to me.
* Use a smaller iOS device that is less bright. A 12.9" iPad is going to be brighter and more impactful to a room than an iPhone SE 2. Use an appropriate device for the room/environment. An iPhone SE 2 with brightness turned off is very effective for this.
* Rest the iOS device face down when not in use. Eliminates the brightness issue if you still perceive it after above.
* Make sure such controllers are ideally dedicated and/or set to appropriate Guided Access or lock time expirations. Eliminates the unlock issue.

These thoughts are the normal path for people who have spent a lot of time with hard button remotes. The best path is not "how do I keep using hard button remotes now that they are no longer in business" but rather "what simple techniques can I use to adapt my usage of hard buttons to the far more powerful iOS devices that are now the best way to do this".

OTOH There may be some people unwilling to adapt and for that scenario running alongside an old Harmony is completely fine and we will retain that functionality as long as such users need it or they shut down their servers.

2021

Question: Ok hive brain...

I have been working on a custom code set for my No Hassle AV Multizone "Whole House" Audio Amplifier. This is the same as the MonoPrice Home Audio Distribution System. It just has IP control in addition to RS-232 serial control.

I can send commands to power it on, power it off. select sources and rooms. all that works well.

Volume control is 00-38 and so I am using data format 403 (00-60 Sharp TV, Leading zero) which leaves some room at the top, but it seems ok.

I have 2...

Staff response: Not a good use of time to create a proxy. I've addressed this many times before and will do so here again.

1. The reason Roomie does not have parsing in its code sets is 98% because Apple does not allow scripting inside apps. For instance, including a Python/Lua/etc library is explicitly against App Store rules. So the obvious solution to this is out.
2. This is a minuscule problem. When this comes up, there is usually no codeset whatsoever for a given device, but users are asking for feedback anyway. (This is exactly what happened with this device if you combine the multiple threads). Basically, a user wants the device supported. Since it started with very few or 1 user, initially there is no code set. Then, users develop a codeset for basic control as that is very simple and requires no code. Then user(s) asks for feedback again. That is exactly what happened 2 months ago with Trinnov/JBL receivers. User developed a codeset, it took hold and developed a small contingent of users, and then we brought one of those users into beta, quickly added feedback support for Trinnov, and updated the codeset to official. Takes very little time and assures users it works properly and is tested. This same procedure has been used dozens of times in the past including for Anthem, and others. It allows support to be added without us having to purchase every single piece of AV hardware known to the world.

The requirement is simply a capable beta tester who is willing and able to install perhaps tens of beta builds while the feedback is refined, able to adjust the codeset if needed, and basically act as the tester submitting diagnostics to us. It's a straightforward process, but someone needs to step up, act as that tester, and contact support (replying here does nothing) to initiate that process.

2021

I have a Meridian 861 pre amp set up to control volume on all activities. It is connected via a Global Cache iTach Flex rs232.
The volume level is set within the Meridian to always switch on at the previous set volume. However within Roomie the volume on all activities starts at zero.......and initially only responds to the dial and not the + button once the volume has been changed it now seems to be synced, until a change of activity, then the volume indication is back to zero in roomie.
I assume the volume feedback only occurs when activating the volume control. Is there something that could be added to the activity to nudge the volume indication at start.

With my Meridian setup I send a command to the Meridian in the Activity of "Volume 72" which sets the volume to that level.

Is that the Volume set command ?

I believe it is. In my Activities I have it set to " Volume 72". It was setup several years back, so I can't remember exactly, but that is what it shows in my setup. Hope it helps.

Thanks for that....I will give it a try, just waiting for my last Global Cache

Oh......does that display in Roomie ie 72 displayed in the volume dial ?

connected up my last Global Cache......All working, probably some tweaking needed in design.
Tried the volume set on starting the activity but still only displaying the volume after selecting a new one......There must be a way displaying on start ? without input

My Meridian setup is in my other home. I'll check it in a week when I'm there.

2021

I’m trying to create a custom IP device for the NoHassle AV 8x8 HDMI Matrix.

According to the specs, it communicates via UDP port 5000.

Each command needs to be followed by a carriage return. I have tried [CR], [cr],<cr>, and <CR> to no avail.

Before I continue trying every letter in the alphabet, does anyone know how to pass a carriage return?

thanks!

Mani

Staff response: Despite 90% of the DDK not applying anymore since creating custom devices as of V6.5 is now trivial in Settings, the encoding aspects of it all remain. The DDK is available here:

Community Knowledge Base

The DDK contains samples of many different encoding methods. These include "\", "\\x10" "\\x12" depending on your needs, the protocol, etc.

Remember also you can always export the codeset, edit it in Xcode, and import it back. Xcode generally handles even the most complex encoding issues for you.

Thanks Will! I have looked at the DDK and continue to struggle. I have also tried /x0D (for ascii 13 which maps to carriage return). I will try Xcode.

Mani

Staff response: To clarify, /x0D would do nothing assuming you didn't typo that.

2021

Apple recently released the public beta of tvOS 14. I've had a dev device on tvOS 14 since the first developer beta, and both the initial and second betas seem to break remote control for everything but the official Apple remote.

Has anyone tried the public beta and been successful using Roomie? I have one device on 13.x and it continues to work fine - the tvOS 14 device works briefly /sometimes/, but then becomes completely non-responsive after 1-2 commands. I've deleted and re-added the Apple TV a few times just to see if I had botched my config... no change. Not a big deal, just figured I'd mention my experience in case anyone was looking at trying the public beta.

Best wishes,
John

Staff response: We installed tvOS 14 developer beta 2 and everything seems to work fine. Maybe there was an issue in beta 1 (which would be a future Public Beta 2).

2020

I have a JBL SDP-40 that I would like to control via a GC-100-12 Gateway. Any ideas how to accomplish this? I had been using an iRule system to control but would like to move to Roomie. Thanks in advance for any help.

Staff response: Community Knowledge Base

2020

Does anybody know where I can get one of the Simple Serial cables which have 3.5mm both ends and work with Samsung EX-Link please ?

I got this one

Global Caché FLC-SL-MJ Flex Link RS232 Mini Jack Cable - Serial Data Transceiver https://amzn.to/3izQ7Xo

Thanks that is perfect appreciated

2020

Love this app and have been using it since it was Roomie, then Simple Control and now Roomie Again.

One thing I would like is a direct way to the Dashboard when in an activity. I was thinking it could be added on this menu: Activity Menu

Currently (unless there is a different way to do it), I can only select the Dashboard link from the Room Menu. Which if you are in an activity you have to either select the room from the activity menu or back out of the activity to get to the room menu to select dashboard. This is something I encounter multiple times a day as I move room to room.

Thanks for listening.

2020

Question: Hello
This is the 3rd time reaching out. I'm not sure what to do. I had TiVo services and roomie worked like a charm. I had trouble with the TiVo box and my service provider (cogeco) said they are no longer going to use TiVo and have been switching everyone over to Cogeco Epico IPTV. My problem is roomie does not seem to have the device in there database. Funny thing is, if I go to guides in roomie it is there and I can add it. The unit is technicolor UIW4020cog. The last 3 characters change dep...

Staff response: Don't know anything about it, but a quick Google immediately indicates it may be an Android TV in which case you should be able to add it manually as a FireTV/Shield. This assumes you can find out how to turn on ADB. The remote in their instructions is "paired" so it is not infrared. It is obviously an Android TV because their own instructions are basically broken if you don't use an Android phone and provide a Google account.

I don't live in Canada, it's not possible to get that here. You would need to create a custom device. I recommend waiting for 6.5 which has a built-in code set editor.

When you get 6.5, you would need to add codes like:

POWER ON
shell:input keyevent KEYCODE_WAKEUP

You would create that as a custom codeset with the ADB type.

Most likely, you need digit codes like KEYCODE_1 for DIGIT 1 etc, but really no idea since normal Android TV boxes don't have such buttons.

That is what "Switching Delay" is for in the Advanced panel of the device in Roomie. Just set it to whatever your device needs.

You can test the right sequence by creating the commands in an inline activity with the appropriate delays.

2020

Question: Trying to add Emotiva xpa-2 codes (the xmc1 codes work but mute doesn't work, and feedback doesn't seem to work so I figured I'd give it a go and learn something). Have bbedit in mac os and can edit and save the file, the issue seems to be that bbedit does not like the formatting of tags that Emotiva specifies. I can save the file if I remove the actual key code, but if i try to save it as-is I get a bbedit error 20022 malformed binary file.

Not sure if I should have the text after <string> fo...

Staff response: There is an existing "XMC-1 Zone 1" codeset that seems to do everything you're trying to do, but was likely created speculatively many years ago so may have issues. Developing your own codeset is unlikely to be the best solution here as feedback parsing does exist. However, in this rare case, you may be able to fix it in your own codeset because the internal parsing already exists.. The .STATUS we use is:

<key>.STATUS</key><string><emotivaUpdate><volume /></emotivaUpdate></string>

The CDATA stuff is another way of writing that, but easier to just use Xcode encoding per above and forget the whole thing.

The MUTE command simply looks mis-named in the internal codeset. It should be "MUTE TOGGLE" with whatever value is correct for that. Or it should be 2 commands ON and OFF.

To get the volume dial, in this very rare case where the parsing already exists, you would need to add this block to the top level keys:

\t\t <key>codeSetMetadata</key>
\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>deviceConfigurationC</key>
\t\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t\t<key>volume</key>
\t\t\t</dict>
\t\t</dict>

didn’t get the dial

Based on what you posted above, you're missing a .VOLUME SET command which is required for a dial.

Use my .STATUS command not yours.

Then switch the metadata block to this:

\t\t<key>codeSetMetadata</key>
\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>deviceConfiguration</key>
\t\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t\t<key>volume</key>
\t\t\t\t<key>fbs</key>
\t\t\t\t<array>
\t\t\t\t\t<dict><key>device</key><string>i</string><key>fbType</key><integer>0</integer><key>freq</key><integer>1</integer><key>notMain</key></dict>
\t\t\t\t</array>
\t\t\t</dict>
\t\t</dict>

Since none of this is supposed to work, it's not surprising. You would need to use the diagnostic log in beta (pinch screen) to dig deeper.

2020

My system has about 30 devices in it and several of them seem to require a designated primary device to work well; namely, my 2016 LG OLED and my 2016 Marantz 8802a Pre.

I am trying to use a mac as the primary device. This a computer that's always on but, we do use user accounts; specifically, mine and one for my wife. I'm not 100% sure yet but it seems like if my wife is using the computer but roomie is running under my account, the Primary Device functionality doesn't work. It's not clear in the documentation if this should or shouldn't work and Support told me this is 'untested'. Is anyone else running in this configuration? Would running roomie as admin theoretically make any difference?

I remember way back before the simple control days, the was a Roomie Hub program. I know hubs are passe now in V6 but the idea of 100% dedicated IOS device seems like an expensive route to go.... I actually tried a iPhone5 that I had laying around but it didn't work well--and support confirmed that the device was likely too old to support a system of this size.

Using my ipad in guided access works ok but introduces another issue that's a little specific to my setup; I'm using the SimpleControl Polygot server to connect my ISY to Roomie and it won't connect to an ios device as a hub for reasons that are unclear... but that's a different issue over in the ISY world.

I'm just curious what people are doing for their primary devices (especially if using a mac) and how is it working?

I have an iPad in my media closet as my primary device. Static IP. I am in ISY 4.7.3 and use ISY to send commands to Roomie through the primary device. This is how my current "hard button" implementation works. Insteon 8 button remote talks to ISY. ISY talks to Roomie. Allows me to switch activities.

Ahh. You're using Network resources in the ISY then. Yeah that would solve that problem. Although if the if the nodeserver get a bit more stable, it will be great.

Do you leave the iPad fully awake? It's not clear to me from the setup guide if the Roomie App has to visible (meaning prevent screen sleep) .

Yes, you have to be in guided access mode with sleep / screen lock disabled. I want to go to ISY 5.x, but I am waiting till it is the final release version. Hopefully that will happen by about 2023 or so. :slight_smile:

For about a year, I ran this config:

Simple Control v4.5.x for iOS (on iPhone-5 with iOS-10.x)
Simple Service 20-Device Monthly Subscription
Simple Hub for Mac v4.5.11 (on MacMini with macOS-Sierra)
Simple Blaster (Ethernet)
Amazon Alexa Echos (various models, using Simple-Control Skills)

It ran fine.

I had no reason to run full-screen games on the MacMini-2012 (I ran those on Windows machines and Apple-TV-Gen4 ) . Everything else (including X-Code) ran and co-existed just fine. Only thing I could not do is reboot to my native Windows-10 BootCamp (obviously).

Running or switching to a different macOS User-Account sounds like a bad idea. However, I ...

2020

NAD is making some great products these days. Lenbrook, NAD's parent company, is doing a great job with the Bluesound products and the BluOS platform is doing well as a result.

NAD's making some great network streamers, pre/pros, and receivers that would be well served to be controlled by Roomie. Please add support for NAD and all BluOS products.

Additionally, NAD publishes control IP integration information on the page of each product. Here's an example of one page for one of their popular receivers (click on the Control Integration tab): https://nadelectronics.com/product/t-758-v3-av-surround-sound-receiver

I personally previously used Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, and Integra gear in my house, but I've swapped it all out for NAD and BluOS equipment because NAD's electronics/DACs sound significantly better. I'd love to see their products supported over IP control (and deep control with BluOS would be even better, or BluOS via Roon control if that were somehow easier to do).

I'd be more than happy to beta test.

Until the NAD codes are added, here’s supplemental codes to get things going for you (758v3 and 777v3). I have tested this over ethernet and serial on my 758v3. I prioritized the “most used“ codes that aren’t currently in the code set, there are quite a few possible commands left out.

~~~
<dict>
<key>brand</key>
<string>NAD</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>Supplemental Zone 1</string>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
<key>Neural X Mode</key>
<string>Main.ListeningMode=NeuralX</string>
<key>Dirac 1</key>
<string>Main.Dirac=1</string>
<key>Dirac 2</key>
<string>Main.Dirac=2</string>
<key>Dirac 3</key>
<string>Main.Dirac=3</string>
<key>Dirac Off</key>
<string>Main.Dirac=0</string>
<key>Up</key>
<string>Main.IR=39</string>
<key>Down</key>
<string>Main.IR=40</string>
<key>Left</key>
<string>Main.IR=41</string>
<key>Right</key>
<string>Main.IR=42</string>
<key>Enter</key>
<string>Main.IR=50</string>
<key>Menu</key>
<string>Main.IR=127</string>
<key>Dimmer On</key>
<string>Main.Dimmer=On</string>
<key>Dimmer Off</key>
<string>Main.Dimmer=Off</string>
<key>Bass Enhanced On</key>
<string>Main.EnhancedBass=On</string>
<key>Bass Enhanced Off</key>
<string>Main.EnhancedBass=Off</string>
<key>Sleep 10</key>
<string>Main.Sleep=10</string>
<key>Sleep 30</key>
<string>Main.Sleep=30</string>
<key>Sleep 60</key>
<string>Main.Sleep=60</string>
<key>Sleep 90</key>
<string>Main.Sleep=90</string>
<key>Sleep Off</key>
<string>Main.Sleep=0</string>
<key>Preset 1</key>
<string>Main.IR=58</string>
<key>Preset 2</key>
<string>Main.IR=59</string>
<key>Preset 3</key>
<string>Main.IR=195</string>
<key>Preset 4</key>
<string>Main.IR=196</string>
<key>Preset 5</key>
<string>Main.IR=198</string>
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>lineio</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>16</integer>
</dict>
~~~

The 2-way feedback for volume, input and mode is already built into Roomie. If you are using IP control, just use port 23 and it will work.

The above codes are “supplemental codes“ that you add to your configuration, but it’s kind of a pain to get them into a configuration, frankly. Hopefully Roomie will update the NAD codes now that 6.0 is out the door, because things like the navigational and menu buttons are really are needed to flesh out NAD support.

2019

Hello, I'm new using Simple, I have a doubt can work everything correctly without using a hub? I hope someone can clarify my doubt, greetings

you can use an appletv 4 as a hub, or any dedicated apple device

Roomie v6.0+ does not require a hub. In 6.0+ the concept of a hub is replaced by the concept of a "controller." Any device can be a controller and the system will automatically elect one device to be the controller. It is possible to have a primary or preferred controller, but it is not strictly required. The system is much more flexible now. I still prefer having a primary dedicated controller, but this is personal OCD preference.

2019

Hello,
I'm trying to successfully migrate to V6.
I had a custom code set for Sky Q device as this wasn't originally available. It appears it is now a standard device but I can't get it to work. Can anyone confirm how they've set up Sky Q in V6?

Alternatively, how do you migrate custom device codes from V5 to V6? I've also got some custom IP codes I've programmed for a Marantz receiver and I'd like these to transfer over.

Any Luck with this? I am also looking for the code to make SkyQ work with RR. thanks
P

2019

Question: Using all iPhones and Apple TV’s in our house. Using the Shortcuts app, I can create shortcuts to wake our Apple TV’s and open specific apps. Is there anyway to use these shortcuts as Activities in Roomie?

Staff response: I think you can just do this as a URL command:
shortcuts://run-shortcut?name=[name]

2019

Question: I've done a bit of integration with your API and it works well. I am primarily using it to enable "hard button" capabilities. For hard buttons I am using Insteon 8 Button Mini Remotes. These triggers programs in my ISY, which then make calls to the Simple Control API. Right now I am just using the /activities endpoint for activity switching (e.g. button A on remote 1 runs DirecTV activity in Family Room). I have also experimented with the /devices endpoint for controlling AVR volume.

The use I...

Staff response: On a side note, the Insteon / ISY / Simple Control integration works well for hard buttons, but the physical layout of the buttons is not that great and there aren’t quite enough buttons

Right, so that sounds like a super difficult road. I've seen people do these things (non-productized) and it's not scalable. These paths are either expensive to productize or expensive to build on a DIY basis or totally locked into a very elaborate Rube Goldberg patchwork.

So I would just note that while at some point there probably will be API enhancements, the closest and simplest path short term may be what we put into 6.0 (planned for this Fall). Apple announced PS4 and Xbox One controller support for iOS 13. The problem with the old Game Controller support was there simply were not enough buttons/controls to replicate a true hard button remote.

The PS4 and Xbox controllers on the other hand are replete with numerous input options, are top notch hardware/ergonomic solutions, already widely distributed, and inexpensive. I've been using V6 with it lately and it might just fit the bill. We'll see. The trick is controlling activities. I haven't decided yet how to go about that. I could make it necessary to see the iOS screen. So you use the controller wherein right thumbstick is the Activity stick. Tap to bring up an Activity list, down, select, activity changes. Or, I could put in voice feedback as it would otherwise be the only reason to need the iOS screen. In that scenario, you'd tap, it would say "Select Activity", down, it says "TiVo", you hit Select, activity changes.

Anyway, point is solutions like that where we're integrating it directly means the play, pause, volume, etc, all work for every Activity and highly custom solutions with bad ergonomics or hardware aren't needed. Though, it's too early to say what is in V6 so far will truly be a complete solution that extends to activity switching, from every other perspective it is a huge step forward as a simple hard button solution.

In the context of this old thread, that already happened. The original request was: "I’d like to be able to control the current activity by sending it generic commands like play / pause / mute and have Simple Control translate these to the appropriate device commands".

APIs to do exactly that were subsequently released as part of our Siri Shortcuts API. UI even exists for them in the Rooms editor for each room.

The new controller support for hard buttons did also subsequently get released in V6 and then enhanced again in V6.5. Unknown at the time of this thread, we then added Harmony Hardbutton integration greatly enhancing the hard button possibilities.

We did many times more things than discussed here in this area. If you're specifically and only looking for a custom HTTP API, that's an extremely specialized need (party of one?) that is difficult to prioritize since I'm not aware of anyone else needing that. To the extent we ...

2019

Question: After an extensive beta testing period since last Spring, we're pleased to announce a major new V6 release. This is a separate app so your existing installations will not be clobbered and you may upgrade when you're ready.

What's New in V6:

Direct link to the app:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1455871956?mt=8

Thanks!

What's New in V6:

Direct link to the app:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1455871956?mt=8

Thanks!

2019

Question: Does Roomie Remote support Wyze cam? Was thinking about picking up a few of these inexpensive cameras.

Staff response: A quick Google turns up references to RTSP in that camera, so it might work if you can figure out the port and RTSP URL.

You can set all of that in the devices panel. Choose anything and change it.

2019

Hello,

I managed to get my HDMI Switcher working via editing and syncing the plist files and icloud in v4.5

I am trying to get the same switcher working in V5, but I think I am missing a crucial step(s). Here's what I am doing.

1) Using Xcode to edit the RoomieCodes.plist file as before. All files are in the Simple Control icloud folder.

2) Unzipping SimpleControlBackup.zip using the Mac operating system.

3) Using BBEdit to copy the codes from RoomieCodes.plist into the correct section as per the DDK instruction (i.e. between [dict] and [/dict]) in the unzipped SimpleControlBackup file

4) Here's where I think the problem is ... when I save the file in BBEdit, it saves it as a txt file ... even when I specify no file extension. I am unable to save it as a plist file.

5) I then zip up the SimpleControlBackup file.

6) I go to the iPad and Simple Control .. Settings ... restore from iCloud.

7) Unfortunately, none of the changes are in my custom code sets. Only the old switcher that I created in V4 is there.

Any suggestions / feedback or guidance would be really appreciated

Jason
Hello,

I managed to get my HDMI Switcher working via editing and syncing the plist files and icloud in v4.5

I am trying to get the same switcher working in V5, but I think I am missing a crucial step(s). Here's what I am doing.

1) Using Xcode to edit the RoomieCodes.plist file as before. All files are in the Simple Control icloud folder.

2) Unzipping SimpleControlBackup.zip using the Mac operating system.

3) Using BBEdit to copy the codes from RoomieCodes.plist into the correct section as per the DDK instruction (i.e. between [dict] and [/dict]) in the unzipped SimpleControlBackup file

4) Here's where I think the problem is ... when I save the file in BBEdit, it saves it as a txt file ... even when I specify no file extension. I am unable to save it as a plist file.

5) I then zip up the SimpleControlBackup file.

6) I go to the iPad and Simple Control .. Settings ... restore from iCloud.

7) Unfortunately, none of the changes are in my custom code sets. Only the old switcher that I created in V4 is there.

Any suggestions / feedback or guidance would be really appreciated

Jason

Thanks KolyaY - gave me clarity on setup of file.

Stupid mistake on my part ... I was actually using the wrong iCloud account !!

2018

Previously, the volume level indicator on Simple Control matched the display on the receiver. With DRX series ( example: DRX-4), it now seems to show a level twice the Integra display. This is problematic because SimpleControl limits volume to a number of 100 while the receiver is then at 50, severely limiting volume output. Any idea how to resolve this?

Staff response: Sounds like you may have added that manually. Some Integra and Onkyo models must be added via auto-discovery in order to calibrate the volume level correctly. Contact support for assistance if there was some reason it couldn't be added via auto-discovery.

Thanks, Will. It never showed up in autodiscovery. I am replacing that unit and will try again when it shows up. BTW, I am also running an Integra DTR-30.5 and 40.7 and have no problem with those, and they were also manually added.

2018

Is there a way to update the configuration of the Anthem AVM60 to display volume feedback to simple remote?

I was just about to ask this as well. Would love to see this feature put in

Any chance of this happening ? I know the older Anthem allow volume feedback and it used to work on Irule but if it can be implemented for the Anthem that would be great.

2018

Question: tvOS 11.4 is out today which I'm eager to upgrade to for AirPlay2 support.

Is SC compatible?

I ask because I had tried the tvOS 11.4 betas and had issues with SC's IP control.

Thank you!

Staff response: We gave the update to Apple on 5/18, but it still hasn't made it through their systems. We recommend holding off until you see 5.0.14 go live.

As mentioned in another thread, we do have space in beta, so adventurous types should just email support and we can get you on version 5.5. Note of course though that 5.5 is a much more dramatic upgrade than 5.0.14. Also, you must upgrade your full environment including Hub in order to switch to 5.5.

2018

Question: 1. What does the thin red line at the top of the Simple Control v4.5 main-screen actually mean?

2. Sometimes, when I pickup my dedicated Simple Control remote (an iPhone-5), it just has a thin red-line at the top and SimpleControl doesn't seem to work. What causes this?

My dedicated Simple-Control remote is an iPhone-5. It's in Guided-Mode with a 30min-AutoLock. The MacMini runs 24/7/365.

Simple Control v4.5.x for iOS (on iPhone-5 with iOS-10.x)
**Simple Service 20-Device Monthly Subscr...

Staff response: In 4.5, that meant "hub is offline or not paired". V5 is completely different.

Remember never to cross the streams as stated in the release announcement. You're either running V5 or V4.5. Never both.

Upgrade to V5 and contact support if you have reset all devices and re-paired everything and such issues continue. No reasonable way to diagnose such things in a forum.

2018

I was pretty excited to see 5.5 show up, it sounded like it was farther off so it was a pleasant surprise!

For existing setups it would be helpful if you could edit the action panel for a device in one activity and copy it to other activities. A good example is a receiver, there are a number of buttons to address and then once they are tweaked to your liking it would be great to be able to copy that to other activities.

Along with that it would be good to be able to go to devices and change the layout there globally, which would then carry over to any new activities automatically. It would also make sense to prompt the user after making changes at the device level to prompt whether to replace existing action panels in existing activities with the new layout. In essence, allowing a change to be made globally and offer to copy that to all existing instances of the device.

The editing of the default config under devices would probably need to include a global reset to default config to be complete.

Allow editing of the panels that are not editable currently. For example on the receiver volume panel allow editing to include the surround mode etc. I think this has been asked elsewhere and I'll try to find it and bump that topic so people can chime in.

+1 on this. I would also like to be able to edit the receiver volume panel in order to include the receiver's input and mode display there for easier reference.

+1 on copying/pasting action panel edits to multiple activities or global device action panel edits. Example - I have Sonos activities in multiple rooms. I have created action planned buttons for various playlists and streams. I would like to copy/paste the Sonos action panel design or custom module for other actives.

Just experimenting with customizing action panels for the first time today. Would love to see ability to copy (or set globally) from one activity to another. I have the same receiver use case described in this thread.

It's been a few years and after the reading the manual and playing around with the UI I am wondering if this is possible yet?

My use cases are as follows:

1) I have two physical receivers that are the same exact model - one for each of two rooms.

2) Within each room the receiver is used on most / all of the activities.

I'd like to create a default action panel design such that it is possible to use the design to control the two separate physical devices from multiple activities in each room. Customization at the device or activity level would be nice too.

I don't want to solution here but in my mind I think of it as having a device type and then instances of the device type. Basic Fruit -> Orange, Fruit -> Apple object-oriented semantics.

- Device Type: Denon AVR-X4300H. At this level I could set a default action panel design.
- Device Instance 1: Family Room Denon AVR-X4300H. At this level I would inherit the device type default action panel design but could, optionally, customize it for the Famil...

2018

Question: Is there any way to get the Lyngdorf MP-50 AVR driver made for Simple?

http://lyngdorf.com/mp-50/
http://lyngdorf.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/MP-50-External-Control-Manual-March-2018.pdf

thanks in advance

Staff response: Looks very easy to add one-way control with the DDK:

To add a full-fledged receiver like that with full two-way control would need internal software support and we do not have a test unit which would be required to add such support.

Adding a receiver is a very involved operation. We would need one locally.

2018

Question: I have a project that Blasters (wifi or ethernet) are not showing up as available devices. I see them on a network scan and can log into them to see the IR set up is correct. Manual entry with the IP address and using port 4998 (IR) is not working either. I do not see any router settings (Fios) that would be causing this.

Staff response: Try a Fixed-IP or at least Reserve it's IP inside the Router-config.

a user reply makes it sound like FIOS Residential-Gateway is somehow selectively limiting network traffic, even on the "safe side" of the Router's firewall. That is sometimes a disadvantage of these all-in-one residential gateways.

2018

Hi,
I recently purchased the Axiim Q UHD for my WISA compatible speakers and I'm having difficulty with getting it to work thru ip Control.

I, had a driver written and all the commands do work, BUT I can submit only one command successfully to the unit and then it locks up and will not accept any more commands. Using a terminal session (no driver, just trying to talk to the Axiim directly from laptop) I can get all commands to work, but only one per session. I have to close session and reopen.

Could you please point me in the direction of someone that could further help me with this?

Where did you find the protocol ? I have a test unit and am willing to give it a try

Hey Mehuneau,
I just saw this..do you still need the codes?

Thanks I got them.

2018

Guide and discussion for selecting appropriate hardware devices to run the Roomie Remote hub, including recommendations and tradeoffs.

2017

I have a PTZ camera (Hikvision DS-2DE4220-AE) that supports an API. Some of the API commands use the GET method (e.g. reboot) but some require a url PUT to work (e.g. repositioning the camera). From what I can tell the SimpleControl url commands only support GET. Is there a way to support PUT methods with a SimpleControl url command?

Staff response: The DDK provides a sample that shows how to use any HTTP method you'd like.

2017

Getting used to version 5 and so far all is good. Some thoughts......

On the sky physical remote ( which is for a pace satellite box) there is a large Button called SKY ( funnily enough) which will always take you back to the full screen active channel whether your in the guide, planner or wherever. This does not seem to exist on the Virtual remote in V5 and the only way to get back seems to me the Menu button which takes you back through the info section -- I added this function manually in version 4 but we currently can't do that in V5. Would be great if this could be added to the default pace remote in V5
Whilst on the subject of editing remotes, my main use was to add channel specific buttons for sky channels ( we don't have programme guides available in New Zealand) so I could just click one button and be taken straight to specific channel -- sky's favourites options take an almost laughably large number of clicks to achieve the same thing.

One final thought on the apple TV (4th Gen) remote... unless I'm missing something the option to skip track forward when listening to music is hidden in the apple TV sub menu when more logically it would be on the main action panel as part of the play controls.

Lots to like so far and the look is really clean and easy to use on an iPad

Top Job Guys

2017

Community reply: Good Evening
I would like to develop a wall switch that can be programmed to send commands to SimpleControl via IP.
The input could be from physical switches or a touch screen.
I have been thinking of the Raspberry Pi with a PoE input. (I have network cable to each light switch) but could also be connected via wifi
The idea would be that a specific button would be say "Sky TV" which would start the activity Sky TV and then there would also be a room off button.
Can SimpleControl accept IP inputs from a device which is not in their system?
Thank You

Take a look here specifically at the HTTP interface guide. I've used this to send commands from a multi button Insteon switch through my controller and on to Simple Control. Works quite well.

Dave

Community reply: Hi Dave.
Thats going to keep me entertained for many hours!!!!
Thanks!

Community reply: So i have successfully run the GET commands but I'm unable to successfully run any POST commands.

I'm currently running the commands from a MacBook Pro in Terminal. Ultimately will be running from a Arduino but want to get the commands working first!

Good GET Commands that have returned results for my complete set up.
curl -X GET http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/activities
curl -X GET http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/devices

Post commands that I have not had success with

Send Commands
curl -X POST ‘http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/sendcommands' -X POST -d ‘{ "delay"
: "1000", "commands" : [ { "type" : "command", "params" : { "command" : “MUTE” , "device" : “89CBF3F5-8277-4415-98A7-8CA3FE673E82” } }
] }’

{
"status" : "success",
"data" : {
},
"code" : 200 }

Run Acctivity
curl -x POST http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/runactivity -d { “activity_uuid":"553B6548-51A4-40DB-B5AC-95565C139F82" }

{
"status" : “success",
"data" : {
},
"code" : 200
}

Any thoughts on how to get the POST commands working would be greatly appreciated.

Community reply: Afternoon

I'm now able to get the POST commands working from the "Simple REST Client" Plugin on Google Chrome. The data looks like this;

URL - http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/runactivity
Method - POST
Data - {"activity_uuid" : "B3BE9EB5-2771-4FE8-ADD1-A3140B6E01A6" }

URL - http://192.168.1.11:47147/api/v1/sendcommands
Method - POST
Data - {"commands" : [ { "type" : "command", "params" : { "command" : "VOLUME UP" , "device" : "BC5918A0-2B18-4922-82A4-D7CBDA406606" }}]}

Now its down to getting the Arduino the send these commands on to the SimpleHub in the right format when a button is pressed!

Did you get this setup? Ive managed to control my activities in SimpleControl from Home Assistant. However, the devices wont work. with the sendcommands call. It returns Success but nothin...

2017

I want to add a device, a Linn Klimax DSM media server / preamp, to my database. I have read the instructions and have done the following:

1) Created a RoomieCodes.plist file (file won't upload, so I attached as text to this message - very basic file to get started...)
2) Sync'd the file to my iPad via DropBox
3) Added device via manual IP (appears to work, IP & port seem OK)
4) No commands are sent over the network

A few notes:
1) I can access the device directly via telnet, get it to accept and respond to commands
2) I run a packet sniffer and can see the comments from telnet
3) I run a packet sniffer and cannot see anything being sent from my iPad

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
joe

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<plist version="1.0">
<array>
\t<dict>
\t\t<key>codes</key>
\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>.POWER STATUS</key>
\t\t\t<string>Action Ds/Product 1 Standby</string>
\t\t\t<key>MUTE OFF</key>
\t\t\t<string>Action Ds/Volume 1 SetMute "0"</string>
\t\t\t<key>MUTE ON</key>
\t\t\t<string>Action Ds/Volume 1 SetMute "1"</string>
\t\t\t<key>POWER OFF</key>
\t\t\t<string>Action Ds/Product 1 SetStandby "0"</string>
\t\t\t<key>POWER ON</key>
\t\t\t<string>Action Ds/Product 1 SetStandby "1"</string>
\t\t</dict>
\t\t<key>method</key>
\t\t<string>lineio-crlf</string>
\t\t<key>brand</key>
\t\t<string>Linn</string>
\t\t<key>cat</key>
\t\t<string>Klimax DSM</string>
\t\t<key>type</key>
\t\t<integer>13</integer>
\t</dict>
</array>
</plist>

This is the format of one of the commands that I'm using to control a Majik DSM;

<string>ACTION Ds/Product 1 SetStandby "0"</string>

It's not a great deal different from yours but it definitely works.

I'm using port 23.

John

2016

Will,

Back in 2015 you mentioned this about the Launchport w/ buttons....

"The LaunchPort does require one of two Lutron systems, either the SmartBridge Pro or Radio RA 2. Both require a Lutron dealer and are not available directly. (Do not confuse the SmartBridge with the SmartBridge Pro.)"

....is that still the case or can I buy use a regular Smart Bridge with the newest update?

Staff response: Definitely still the case. It appears to be quite intentional on their part so I do not imagine that they would change this.

I highly recommend Radio RA 2 personally over the Caséta models. Much better.

2016

Dear Community,

I thought I'd share a solution I recently managed to implement which allows me to monitor the power status of an IR-controlled SetTopBox (Telekom MR-300).

Due to the nature of IR, there's no way to get feedback from the device regarding its actual power state. And in my case, the SetTopBox only supports POWER TOGGLE and does not allow for discrete POWER ON and POWER OFF commands.

While SimpleControl can track the power state of a device which it controls and turns on and off, this obviously can run out of sync if the respective device's power state is altered by some other external event. This is typically the case when SimpleControl is not the only remote being used or just someone physically turning of the device. This can result in SimpleControl executing a POWER TOGGLE command which turns the device off instead of on if the device is actually already on.
To get around this, I use a Global Cache iTach IP2IR device with the GC-SV1 Video Out Sensor connected to the SetTopBox and a SimpleControl Trigger that monitors the state of the Video Sensor. This Trigger then activates/deactivates a Toggle Activity which reflects the power state of my SetTopBox. I then use conditional command execution on the Start and Stop actions of a Remote to conditionally execute the POWER TOGGLE command for the SetTopBox depending on the actual power state of the device. Works just perfectly.

This setup can actually be used to monitor any kind of device that does not provide discrete .POWER STATUS feedback, optionally using the GC-SP1 AC/DC Voltage Sensor.
If anyone is interested in more details about the configuration, I’m happy to share.

Cheers
Alexander

I'd love to see exactly how you did this with the GC sensors. I looked at GC and I'm somewhat confused about what is needed and this cross over cable nonsense they describe.

Hi dgeffs254,

yes, the cross over cable stuff is a bit annoying.

But here's how it works:

The GC iTach IP2IR device has three inputs which can be configured individually, either as IR-OUT, SENSOR-IN, SENSOR-NOTIFY or IR-BLASTER.
I have one of the inputs set to SENSOR-IN and have Video Sensor Cable connected to it. The Video Sensor cable is connected to the Video-Out (Composite) signal of the SetTopBox.
Due to some internal design alterations, GC requires you to use a cross-over cable or simply swapping the wires from the tip and the ring. Since I could find an appropriate pre-built crossover-cable anywhere, I did this myself by cutting the wires apart and attaching a new Stereo jack with the cables swapped. Not nice, but it works.

Hope this help!
Cheers
Alexander

2016

I have never been able to get my Nest Cam working, I created my Nest cloud device and signed in, but any activity I create with a camera just gives me black screen even after clicking the edit button. The documentation is mostly geared towards the thermostat setu, which I do not have.
What I am I dong wrong?

Staff response: That can happen if you only have a NestCam and it has no events. Using Home or System, the video clip of the most recent event displays for NestCam. If you have no events, nothing displays. Using the old Legacy Nest support, a still image of a recent camera status will be displayed (not related to most recent event).

2016

I am having trouble downloading code sets - my ipad does not have any code sets downloaded (0/15). I tap "Update code sets", wait 30 seconds and then reset my ipad but still no luck. the date for the update code sets is Jan 29, 2016.

I have an iphone with simple control, and that has all the code sets downloaded.

Any ideas? :question:

Thanks!!

Staff response: The time on your iOS device is incorrect. It must be within 15 minutes of correct world time or codeset downloads fail.

2016

Everything was working fine with Insteon until yesterday. So I unpaired the account. Now it just gives me an error when I try to pair again.

Staff response: They do look like they're having an outage. We have reported this to them but I'm sure they already knew.

2016

Hi Guys,
sorry if this has already been asked but couldnt find below. Does anyone have the Nexus Player working with Simple Control.
If so is it via IP or IR?

Tempted to get one but would prefer to ask before diving in.

Cheers,
Tim

I have two of them and I havent found a way yet.. thats because its using BT instead of IR or IP control...

BUT!!!!

... just a few weeks ago a new app was reléased.. Android TV remote App... I can now from my iphone control my Nexus player. This means that there SHOULD be an API out there to use for Simple Control.
I hope to hear from the support on this.

2016

Has anyone managed to integrate Doorbird into SimpleControl? Looks like they have an open API and HTML5 Widget. Wanted to find out experiences before i sink too much into this doorbell.

Thanks!
Marc

I have a doorbird, definitely no native support, but it might be possible to open the HTML app within SC in an Activity, but this would only be to open app, I doubt it will auto open in the case of someone ringing the doorbell...

The Doorbird API now includes a Notification Request function, which will send a request to a specified URL when the doorbell button is pressed. Does SimpleControl interpret incoming HTTP requests? If so, it should be possible to have SimpleControl preform some actions when the doorbell is rung, tho I don't know if that could include switching the SimpleControl app to a page with the video stream (I'm still very new to SimpleControl - sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree here).

Hi All,

I have recently installed the DoorBird D21DKH. It is an excellent IP based solution with 2 x relays for a pedestrian gate and driveway gates. It is working flawlessly on its own app - even anywhere over GSM. Their API does seem thorough (although I am not a programmer). It would be fantastic if Simple Control could show a popover with the door camera feed, an answer and end button, and 2 x door relay buttons. I believe the DoorBird can stream to 8 devices at once but only be answered by one. This would be perfect in a small Simple Control environment.
Any assistance would be most welcome.

Thanks,

The DoorBird video stream is easy to integrate into anything that accepts RTSP. I've used it directly with Simple Control and also used with it SecuritySpy (an NVR application for the Mac).

I have not tried to integrate the DoorBird notification interface.

The limitation is that the DoorBird streaming interface is lower resolution and doesn't provide access to the native higher resolution capability of the camera, so that kinda defeats the benefit of being able to use the DoorBird instead of a regular IP camera for a continuous video feed.

2016

Question: Am I crazy or is the Amazon Echo app missing from the Skills store? Mine stopped working a few days ago, so I deleted it with the intention of restoring it. I went to do that tonight, and darned if I can find it. Appreciate any insight folks may have.

Staff response: Yes, there was some kind of glitch on the Amazon side this week. We finally were able to talk to a Human today and they say the issue is resolved and it's in queue for re-publishing. I'm not sure how long that takes, but presumably it should be back soon. Don't hesitate to continue raising this with Amazon until it reappears of course.

This did come back up early Monday.

2016

Question: How do I add a camera that is not on the list? I have a camera that I would like to use. It is Onvif 2.4. It would be nice to be able to add a generic camera or a general onvif compatible camera.

Staff response: The final screen for every camera allows editing the RTSP URL directly, so in the even you have something not in our library, just add it as anything and edit the final screen to match your camera's RTSP URL.

If you submit the working information to us via supporta user.com, we'll also update our library for it going forward.

2016

Hi there, I have a Bell Fibe 4K box that has a bluetooth button remote. Is there anyway to control this with SimpleControl. This upgrade to Bell Fibe is causing me headaches as I can't control those via IR unless someone know if this receiver has an IR eye somewhere.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Did you ever figure this out? Does SC work with bell fibe 4K receivers?

I never got it to work. Let me know if you had any luck with this.

I tried getting a simple Sony IR blaster to work with it and I haven’t been able to.
So I guess this means that you can’t get the bell guide on your simple control app or tune into any channels?

2016

My Sony TV demonstrates a challenge I'm facing for ALL my infrared devices. My question is specific to IR, but not specific to Sony (nor specific to televisions). My "watch TV" activity starts off telling the TV to use external (receiver-powered) speakers, not the TV's onboard speakers. The Activity contains numerous "cursor up" and "cursor enter" etc... commands. The programmed cursor movements have variable results depending upon the initial state of the TV. For example, if the TV speakers are initially off, that changes how you'd move the Sony TV cursor to maintain (keep) the TV onboard speakers off (versus if the TV speakers were initially on). My wife and kids aren't going to know the initial speaker state, nor should they care. How do you deal with this? Is there a way, for example, to tell Roomie "turn TV speakers to external" versus "cursor up", "cursor right" then "cursor enter"?

It's always best to avoid simulated multi-step IR sequences if possible. But that will be purely based upon whether the target device has a discrete way to instruct it to make the change you want. In the case of setting the mode of the TV to use external speakers, even Sony's extended IR set for installers doesn't seem to have that command though a few of the more obscure commands there would be something to experiment with on your model. Part of the best answer here may be based on why the TV is needing that constant reset in the first place. Clearly, Sony does not anticipate that being an issue users have required a command to perform.

2015

Hi,

I am setting up Roomie to be the all-in-one controller for my house.

Controlling the AV equipment is relatively straight forward, however, I want to go a step further and create a pop-up remote for lighting control for each room. I want to use the actual image of the room and touch the respective areas to send commands to my Vera. For example, if I touch the floor lamp on the image, it toggles the state, similarly if I touch the TV it brings up the TV remote, so on and so forth.

Is there any way to do it by uploading images of my rooms to the images folder in Dropbox and using those as custom images/backgrounds on various screens.

Thanks.

Equipment:

- 3 x Vera Edge controlling about 150 Z-wave devices (dimmers, relays, shutters, locks, motion sensors)
- Assortment of AV (Sony, Sonos, Anthem, Golder Ear, Plex)
- IP Cams
- All controlled by multiple iPads. (Just want to customise each lighting control to that room's image) Please help!!

This should be very straightforward. Define a background image for a custom mapped remote. Custom mappings are created via the DDK allowing you to draw the exact locations you want your buttons. Examples and templates are in the DDK:

Roomie Remote Support

You don't need a custom device so just skip to the part about mapped remotes.

2015

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2015

Hi,

I have just bought a Beyonwiz T3 PVR/STB.

It has the ability to be control via IP, it is very similar to a Dreambox STB, but has some extra commands.

I can control my T3 using the Dreambox remote in Roomie via IP.

Does anybody have any details of the Dreambox commands and IP command details (URLs)?

I just wanted to to check if anybody had a T3 setup via IP already or had the details of the Dreambox before I went down the path of working it all out.

Thanks

Shaun

2015

Question: I know this topic has been discussed before, but I still would very much like to have a remote with actual hard buttons. Until that time the wife acceptance factor is going to be zero. I read the thread about the launchport device with buttons. It was almost what I needed. If it had a few (2 or 3) more buttons, wasn't so expensive, and was still a product it would do the job. I understand I can interface game controllers but they just have a bunch of buttons with cryptic icons that would ha...

Staff response: Hardbutton remotes:

Still a generally interesting concept. We've explored some options. Nothing has really come to the forefront yet. When I look at solutions in this space, I'm not yet compelled by any of them. Not that it would cause us to stop looking into this, but my own feeling here is that this decreases about 10% a year in demand. It used to be pretty often people would approach us about this. At CEDIA last month, I encountered exactly one person the entire show with this request. So it's plummeted as the power of touchpad remotes has basically just rolled over hardbutton remotes. Gesture Panels took us a long way toward the goal, but conversely the lack of a Media Guide is becoming a huge issue there. Anyway, yes, still interested in providing a solution here, but this is a rapidly shrinking market segment.

Command/Device HTTP API:

This is coming actually. We're building it for an unannounced third party product anyway, so it will be available in a generalized form in not too long.

Lutron Pico controls us via triggers from a Lutron controller such as Radio RA 2, etc.

Radio RA 2 and Homeworks etc integrate directly. There is no need for HomeKit with such products. The LaunchPort is its own Pico and we integrate with that via those Lutron products. Meanwhile, the SurfaceMount is a direct integration. It is not imitating a Pico, so nothing else is required to integrate.

Can simple control control only the pico on the launch port directly via the hub and control the rest of the devices via homekit?

Sounds possible. As with anything Caséta pre-HomeKit, you'd need to figure out the device ID and button number from the manual manifest the device gives you in order to configure a device trigger for Button Press status.

> Any update on the above? Would really be a great feature to have if we could use existing hard remotes as well.

That path we investigated a year or two ago did not pan out, yet anyway. We're looking at a different and better path. No timeline atm.

iOS game controllers are also compatible:

https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/ipad/best-ios-controllers-mfi-3621760/

MFi controllers have been compatible for several years. The buttons on any MFi controller are mapped to the current Action Panel or Virtual Remote automatically.

If you have special needs, you can customize to send whatever you want with a Remote Design. The only thing that is "fixed" per se is which button on the Virtual Remote/Action Panel corresponds to which physical button on the MFi controller. You don't need 4.5 to do any of this just swap to Virtual Remote mode if you need to move things around.

Setting up an MFi controller is not something that happens inside the app. Once that is setup, it just works. The mapping of buttons is something that may take some tapping but is fundamentally discoverable as you noticed. Every button is mapped. Joysticks aren't. You can customize every button if neede...

2015

Is the volume feedback for Mirage M-400, Russound C-Series, and Shinybow SB-8804LCM Multizone Amplifiers for RS-232 or Ethernet? Would I be able to assign an amp zone for volume control for all devices? Would the volume slider work like it does with a regular receiver? Any chance to add the RTI multi zone amps as well?

I would also like clarity on multi-zone amp / controller functionality (especially ones with IP support). I just looked at the compatibility list and do not see any updated information on models supported and/or what feedback functionality is offered. Thanks!

I have the russound mca-c5. I have it connected via Ethernet. Yes, you can assign an amp zone to control volume for all devices. The volume slider works like other devices.

Does it also let you control each and every zone differently? Meaning can you create a custom remote with all the zone volume controls on it and have one place to turn them independently up and down?

Yes it lets you control each zone independently. You can turn off/on, set to party mode, change volume and change source for each zone.

You could create a custom remote to control all the zones if you wanted. I would like to see this built in for a future release though.

2015

Hi,

is it possible to open an activity via a URL from other apps? Something like this:

roomie://room/livingroom/activity/startxbox

I have just started using the Roomie remote system this weekend and so far it is great. However I too, would like to be able to open apps like Sonos or Pandora from within the activity.

While I don't have the knowledge or experience on how to do this, I am very willing to try. Is there a tutorial that goes through, step by step, how to do something like this?

Those are unrelated features. The OP request is not a current feature – that would be best in the Feature Requests forum if not already there. The second poster seems to be referencing standard URL Scheme launching which is supported and covered here in the FAQ:

Local Network Control API (HTTP Command Interface)

Why would this not be possible with Roomie Agent's triggers? The URL wouldn't be exactly look like that, but you could trigger the activity.

2015

**Hello Roomie,

At this time is there any way to integrate my Z-Wave Light switches into my Roomie Remote? The WeMo just does not work for me it never stays connected. I have the old Revolv hub (now discontinued) and I would really love to replace it with Roomie what hardware hub do i need to communicate to these devices with Roomie? Will SmartThings work?

Thanks,

Kevin

**The most common Z-wave controller we work with is Vera:

amazon.com/dp/B007005364/?tag=cyphersoft-20

They are well integrated. We recently added door lock support and there are the beginnings of even thermostat support there – not on the level of Nest with a full UI, but the commands are there. Certainly form a light switch perspective, that is the most well integrated. Apparently there is now a Z-wave option for the Universal Devices ISY, so that might also work.

**Thank you, do you guys work with SmartThings? I have heard that the Vera is very hard to use and program? Do I still use your interface to do the programming? How do I pair my switch with the Vera? Can I have the Revolv and the Vera both be paired at the same time? I still have the Revolv and it works well for a few things but I know its discontinued and I would love to replace it with Roomie.

**The Vera is easy to program and if you look on the list of supported devices it is the only Z-Wave controller that natively works with Roomie. You still use the Roomie interface to do the programming and you pair your switches through the Vera device.

2014

**Hi Guys, just trying to control a TV via serial control. I have used the DDK many times but mainly for ir control and creating my own command setups. I'm now trying to create the serial codes for a TV but having issues.

Here Here is a link to a copy of the .plist I'm working on.

The codes given by the manufacturer are in Hex and if I input them into iTest they work fine, just having issues getting the correct format or data into the .plist file. For those that have a look a sample code looks like this" A0 F0 55 FF AE 51 ". Like I say, in iTest it works fine when I hit the hex send button, just not sure how to get roomie to understand it. In the .plist, it is the device called TileVision TV26FR2.

Any help is much appreciated.

**It looks like you're trying to send binary commands, but your commands are formatted as ASCII. Just rewrite:

A0F055FFAF50

As:

\\xA0\\xF0\\x55\\xFF\\xAF\\x50

**Hi there, I did also try adding the x before each part but this made the actual buttons on the test remote dissapear....

**Sounds like bad formatting that caused the whole file to be rejected. Try attaching that version so we can see what was done.

**Sorry for the delay, I had bad wifi signal and couldn't get my laptop to work. Coincidently I think this was also causing issues with roomie as once I got a better signal and re saved the .plist file all seemed to work using x in front of each part of the hex command. Looks like the file was becoming corrupt some how.

Thanks anyway for the help.

2014

**I'm sure you're busy with 3.0 just hitting the app store, but I'm having an issue getting Nest to work correctly. I add the Nest and link the account, which clearly works as it sees both my Nests and their associated names. However, the temperature isn't changing through Roomie. Not sure what the issue is. I've tried adding and removing a few times with no luck.

Side node, it took some fiddling for me to get the Apple TV working but once I did it's MUCH better than via IR. I always had some small command delay with IR and its completely gone now that I'm controlling via IP. Very pleased.

**Try reloading the Activity or power cycling the device. Some kind of timing issue when initially adding it as a device perhaps.

**I have the same issue with Nest. Seems like the temperature is not updating real time. A change in set temperature has to be made before the current temp is updated, and occasionally that doesn't work either.

**We did just resolve an issue setting the target temperature of Nest systems set to single mode (eg. cool only instead of heat and cool). The codes have been updated to correct that. No software update is needed.

Just tap "Update Code Sets" and wait about 30 seconds. Then power cycle your iOS device (or use the app bar to force quit Roomie) and then reopen Roomie and it should work fine.

**Awesome. Thanks guys, will try this later tonight.

2014

**Roomie Remote 3.0 will be released sometime in the next month or so on the App Store. This note previews some of the packaging and pricing improvements we're making this year.

The core app maximum device count has increased from 2 to 3. The room limit has been removed. This upgrade is retroactive to current purchases.

All TV and Media Guides for all countries and products are now part of the Roomie Service. New purchases no longer include guides. Purchases of Roomie prior to the release of 3.0 without the Roomie Service do retain the current 4 hour guide support in 3.0 so no change if you have already purchased Roomie.

One new pack is added:


  • 10 Device Pack - $19.99 US: Adds an additional 10 Devices. The first purchase of a 10 Device Pack provides a free month of the Roomie Service with any new subscription to the 6 month plan.

Two packs are retired, but unchanged for all existing purchases:


  • Home Theater Pack: The functionality provided by this pack is now provided by the 10 Device Pack that can be purchased up to 4 times after which the device limit is disabled. The room limit has been removed from the base app.

  • Agent Management Pack: The functionality provided by this pack is now included in the Roomie Service. Roomie Agent increases from $19.99 to $29.99 on release of Roomie 3.0.

Upgrade FAQ

Does this mean if I purchase the Home Theater Pack today before 3.0, I will not need to purchase a 10 Device Pack later?

Yes, though you also wont get the a free month of the Roomie Service in that scenario. Whether one is more valuable to you probably depends on whether you plan to use more than 13 devices.

I just bought the Agent Management Pack and Roomie Service, what does this mean for me?

Today, the Agent Management Pack is $9.99 and Roomie Agent is $19.99. After release of Roomie 3.0, Roomie Agent is $29.99 and Agent Management Pack is included with the Roomie Service. Assuming one has the Roomie Service, the price going forward is effectively the same, we're making it simpler by reducing the number of items that need to be purchased. The Roomie Service is not required for Agent Management if you currently have the Agent Management Pack.

If I buy Roomie Agent today, is there an upgrade fee associated with a new version when 3.0 is released?

The upcoming upgrade to Roomie Agent associated with the release of Roomie 3.0 is a free upgrade. The price is only changing for new purchases to simplify the number of items that need to be purchased.

How are devices counted by the 10 Device Pack?

When you add devices to Roomie, each line in the device list is one device. Receivers are always added per zone. If you control 2 separate zones of a single physical receiver, that is 2 devices. Each device controlled by an infrared adapter is a device.

Many cases exist where devices are consolidated into one device in Roomie, these are usually hubs or controllers for other sets of devices. Lighting systems such as Hue, Lutron, Insteon, and others are all considered one device no matter how many lights are controlled. Roomie 3.0 also introduces support for Nest thermostats. In that scenario, all thermostats are considered one device per Nest account. If you have 5 thermostats on one Nest account, that's still just 1 device in Roomie. Again, if you look at your device list in Roomie today, that is exactly how it is counted.

Note that the same device added multiple times in different rooms counts as a separate device. We recommend referencing the same device one time in your configuration. Roomie can easily reference devices between rooms so there is no reason to have the same device listed in multiple rooms.

2014

**Do you have a log in for professional installers , that would like to store set up files ( via drop box ) for clients, and pay for the apps on behalf of clients .

**We recommend a shared Dropbox for that purpose. It does not have to be the customer's personal Dropbox in other words. It just needs to be a Dropbox shared between you and the customer. Turning on Poll Dropbox then ensures that any change you make to that configuration will automatically be reflected on the customer's devices.

You definitely would not want to purchase the apps for the customer. They would then be unable to update the apps and all sorts of other problems with that approach. In all types of installs, apps should be associated with the end user's Apple ID (and thus purchased via that Apple ID).

Roomie Agent can also be used to PIN-lock end-user devices or deploy configuration updates to all devices.

**Question about dropbox polling. if Auto polling is enabled, does it track the power state of devices?

**Polling is a one-way mechanism. Power state changes are very temporal and not the kind of thing you'd want to synchronize through Dropbox which is best viewed as a Backup solution. Power state changes are best handled via synchronization. Polling Dropbox is mainly for cases where an integrator modifies your configuration remotely and want to have all of your Roomie clients update to the latest configuration automatically. The Synchronization FAQ goes into detail on this:

Roomie Remote Support

2014

I am running the "Server" app for my Mavericks install on a Mac Mini connected via ethernet. I have successfully set up the VPN to use roomie outside of my network. I have enabled both PPTP and L2TP. Since the FAQ states you recommend PPTP, is there any technical reason roomie would behave better or worse if I just use L2TP?

Roomie Agent and VPN - I have noticed that the device connected via the VPN does not show up in Roomie Agent... only the devices that are connected within the wireless LAN on site. Is this expected, or are there any other ports I need to open for the remote devices (connected via the VPN) to show up? (Maybe it's because Roomie Agent uses multicast to display connected devices?)

Thanks again for a great product!

L2TP probably isn't going to have any impact on multicast. To get everything that is dependent on multicast like device discovery and agent commands, you would need to route multicast packets over the VPN. Both PPTP and L2TP are likely to be configured by default not to route multicast packets.

There are exceptions to that for Agent. For instance, viewing the screen of the OS X device is unicast now. The next version makes sure normal agent commands like .APPLICATION LAUNCH are also sent unicast.

2014

According to the compatibility list, it has to be manually setup using port 1024, which I have done, but I'm not getting any response from the device and the command log shows the commands in Red. Is this the correct port number?

Hello

I am sure you already did all this, but in case :slight_smile:
- you need to go to your setting on the Mede8er and check the IP address and port number
- you need to activate the remote ip control in the settings of your mede8er
- on Roomie, add device and enter manual the IP of your mede8er and port is 1024
That's it, you should be able to control your Mede8er

Beware that the IP control does not switch on the mede8er, it can switch it off but not ON, I have opened a feature request on the forum to ask for this feature. In the meantime, I let the Med8er switched on all day/night.. not very nice I know
I use Roomie to switch on all devices (except Mede8er) and use the M8jukebox to navigate my movies. One day, maybe, we will be able to embed several apps in an IPAD

Hope this helps

Ports mentioned: 1024

2014

I'm customizing my Apple TV remote, and the section immediately beneath the directional pad seems to serve no purpose with the Apple TV. (For clarification, it's the section that, with other devices, such as a DirecTV receiver, displays the current channel and programming.)

So far, when editing any remotes (not just for the Apple TV), that section doesn't seem to be listed among the among the various elements one can include or exclude. But when it's not needed, it occupies precious screen-space.

Is it possible to remove it?

Actually that section very much serves a purpose. That is where the feedback from iTunes relative to your Apple TV is displayed. The whole section is removed if you don't configure an associated iTunes device for your Apple TV Activity.

Thanks! I almost never play iTunes via the AppleTV, so I didn't recall its use of that section.

That said, you just gave me an idea that might be revolutionary... :-)

On any virtual remote, what if we could tap and hold (for, say, 2 seconds) the upper left corner of any section (as defined by the rounded-rectangle boundary) to collapse that section from view?

This would allow us to hide sections we don't need for that activity — without having to literally edit and save a whole new remote design. The design would remain intact, but any collapsed section(s) would remain so for that activity (persisting even after switching to other activities) until re-revealed.

On the iPhone especially, with its smaller screen, this would be phenomenally useful!

Tap-and-hold would allow implementation without having to clutter the interface with a disclosure triangle or similar. It would also minimize accidental triggering when simply scrolling.

I've attached a crude mock-up of what I'm describing — before and after collapsing a section.

(Although the collapsed section occupies a small amount of space, it'd be important to have some sort of visible reminder that a collapsed section exists. Of course, a solution that takes up no space would be even better — but that would require a disclosure triangle or something. This was just a quick-and-dirty proof of concept made from your existing design elements.

I hope you see the additional value and benefits this functionality would add to Roomie. :-)

Thanks!

2014

Please, add the ability to pair RoomieRemotes and Roomie Agent. Have discovered that Roomie will sync with any RoomieRemote. This means that the newest setup is propagated to each RoomieRemote installation. Regardless if the user wants that or not.

Example:
Have RoomieRemote installed and setup for my home on my iPad. I go to a friends home with my iPad. My friend also has an iPad with RoomieRemote setup for their home. My iPad joins my friends WiFi network. Now, whomever has the oldest RoomieRemote setup will have their setup changed to the newest setup. So if my RoomieRemote was edited yesterday and my friends was edited last week. My friend will lose their setup and have my setup installed on their iPad.

The only workaround for this issue is to backup after every edit of RoomieRemote. That way the setup can be restored.

At some point in the past those were the same configuration. If for instance your configuration had synchronized to your friends iPad and then his configuration was created by deleting your rooms and then adding new rooms, it is still the same configuration so it will synchronize.

To create a new configuration, use either the "Reset Configuration" button in Settings or delete the app and fresh install. A configuration created in that way will not synchronize with any other configuration. Given that you're now using the same home ID for two completely different configurations, you would want to fix that. Basically, they each need a unique Home ID in Roomie.plist. Support could help you ensure that.

2014

I'm adding a custom device to the RoomieCodes plist file and want to use a graphic of the original remote which will appear on the app when this device is selected. I notice you can do this with a selection of included images for remotes from a selection of manufacturers but not from the device I have (Humax Foxsat HDR Sat receiver).

Can I add an image of the original remote and then assign commands to each button?

Yes, Custom Original Remotes are documented with completely functional samples in the DDK:

Roomie Remote Support

2014

Hi

have anyone who can instruct me for how to create new serial device in the DKK ? or give me a example demonstrates page as below .

device name = Lighting controller
9600,N,8,1
ALL ON code = AE 00 47 1F 1F AC
ALL OFF code = AE 00 47 00 00 AC

Thanks
Huang

The Onkyo Sample Receiver Commands .VOLUME SET example in the DDK is what you want. It's formatted exactly as shown there:

\\xAE\\x00\\x47\\x1F\\x1F\\xAC

Roomie Remote Support

2014

I'm having trouble sorting through longs lists in XBMC. For example, in a list of Movies, to skip down to the first title that starts with "S" you can hold Shift + S on the keyboard. However when using the keyboard Roomie JSON Remote, there is no shift key -- capital letters are sent as if Caps Lock was on. In essence, there is no command for Shift + {a letter}. Is there a good way to sort in XBMC using the upnp server remote used by Roomie?

Doesn't make sense to "type" a letter S when you can just tap the letter "S" in the XBMC guide for Roomie and jump right to it.

There are situations where using the shift+letter is preferable to the media guide. One is when you need to resume an existing movie or tv show which is not supported in the current media guide.

2014

I am considering purchasing this app, but I just wanted some clarification about device compatibility. I can imagine it's pretty straight forward to wake up and control a TV that is connected with a physical ethernet cable nowadays, but do these TVs support waking up the TV and controlling it over WiFi? I don't have an ethernet jack near my TV, so any smart TV I use will be connected over Wifi.

Thanks!

It's a good question and one that does sometimes need clarification and does have special cases.

Wherever we are aware of it, we have made explicit notation on this topic on the IP Compatibility page. For instance, Panasonic's 2012 and 2013 GT/VT series is IP Controllable, but requires Ethernet for Wake on LAN.

Meanwhile, Sony's 2013+ televisions can be awakened just fine via either Wi-Fi or Ethernet.

So the question is very much manufacturer specific and we recommend always checking the IP Compatibility list first.

2014

Question: Hooray!

Just saw the new version is live in the App Store. anyone tried it yet?

Staff response: There is one known issue so far. That is on systems set to an iOS language that is not one we localize into. So anything set to English, German, Spanish, or French is fine. There is then a list of about 12 languages that will crash at launch, and everything else is also fine. The known languages with issues are Danish and Greek. We don't need a complete list. This will obviously be fixed in a quick maintenance release. We believe this issue is also iOS 8 only. Switching the language to English, German, Spanish, or French resolves the issue completely.

The spacing with long room names for the buttons has indeed been enlarged in 3.0.1.

Note that with Apple TV, we now present commands that simply do not exist on the metallic image remote, so we felt it was better not to present that as an option as quite useful commands like the Home button would not be available there.

iPhone 6/6 Plus screen resolution support has of course been finished quite a while during the wait for Apple to approve 3.0.0. It looks really great. Some of the screenshots on the features page are taken from the iPhone 6 Plus rotated into landscape with a special layout we created for that:

The language issue is resolved now. 3.0.1 is live only 28 hours later thanks to the App Store folks.

This also allowed us to accelerate a few other items including full support for iPhone 6 and 6 Plus resolution, full width Activity size to fit, and a few other fixes/improvements.

Version 3.0.2 is now live in the App Store with the previously announced fixes. The wait time for that was 11 calendar days, it is taking quite a while for Apple to approve apps lately no doubt due to the iOS 8 surge.

The following is the current change log for the next release, 3.0.3:

  • Optimizations to panning/swiping between Activities/Virtual Remote/Guide so that it is now perfectly smooth.

  • Fixed incorrect command for Apple TV IP assigned to STOP button by default.

  • Fixed over-aggressive discovery of LG products.

  • Power Off button now has a reddish hue.

  • Improvements to sizing of panels on different screen sizes in particular iPhone 6/Plus.

  • Several fixes to Proximity Automation. Many Proximity features such as Room Detection and Proximity Actions should now work much better when the app is in the background.

  • Nest thermostat celsius-specific visual improvements.

  • Fixed Room navigation bar to show custom room images properly.

  • Fixed appearance of list buttons on the Virtual Remote on iPhone 6/Plus.

  • Fix for timing issue with multiple commands after a Delay All Devices command.

  • Plex Media Server is now independently auto-discovered to enable using it on a separate box from Plex Home Theater for the Plex Media Guide.

  • Fixed inconsistent behavior in Airplay button.

  • Fixed crash if Override Volume was active and volume...

    2014

I hear that plex media guide has been integrated into version 3.0?

I have a Mac mini running plex server and a jail broken ATV2 used as a client connected to my tv. Can anyone recommend how to setup roomie to control this arrangement and get the plex media guide?


  • Make sure Plex Media Server 0.9.9.14.531 is installed together with Plex Home Theater 1.2.2.331 on your Mac Mini.
  • Add Plex Home Theater as a new device in Roomie.

  • Activate the Roomie Service.

  • Open the default Activity created by Roomie for Plex. Make sure Movies and TV Shows have been loaded into your PHT via PMS to show content in the guide.

The exact versions above are the latest versions and known to work. It's probably more flexible than that, but at this point there's no reason to support any older Plex.

Do I follow the same instructions for setting this up with a PC based plex deployment?

Yes. Note that we definitely support music as well and we believe that running Plex Media Server on a different machine should work fine as long as Plex Home Theater is the device added to Roomie.

In support, we've encountered some people with local firewall issues as well. Make sure your Plex Media Server is open on the standard port 32400 from Roomie.

Hi there,

I have a follow-up question related to these instructions. I am running the Plex MS and the Plex HT application on the same computer. However, when I try to add Plex control as a new Roomie device, I am only able to add the server, not the HT application. I tried to add Plex HT manually using the IP address and port 3005, but was given an error message saying Roomie was forbidden from receiving feedback from Plex. Is there a setting in Plex (either the MS or HT app) that I need to change to make this work? Or do I need to do something different in Roomie?

Thank you!

Yes, the "Allow Control" options must be turned on in Plex settings per the Device Compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

Since our earlier post, the versions have changed in minor numbers but otherwise is the same. We also added in 3.0.4 the ability to use a Plex Media Server on a different machine from PHT. In that scenario, add PMS to Roomie as a separate device type Auxiliary -> Plex -> Media Server. There is no need for that if you run PMS on the same machine as PHT.

ok, you confused me. I am about to set this up.

So, if PMS and PHT are on different machines, which is added to Roomie 3.0.4?

You previously said the PHT, now you say the PMS.

If and only if you use PMS on a separate machine from PHT, add PMS as its own device (Auxiliary -> Plex -> Media Server) in addition to PHT. (2 devices)

In the normal case where they're on the same machine, just add PHT via auto-discovery as usual. (1 device only.)

2014

Hi,

I'm trying to integrate a Gefen matrix switch with my setup and I feel I have a good grasp on Roomie concepts, the plist format and I have good documentation from Gefen describing all of the matrix commands. I am able to control the switch via telnet commands; I have been able to back up and restore and add the matrix device and commands; I am able to test the remote on the new device.

However I'm struggling to figure out why my configuration file doesn't actually work.

It would be extremely helpful to have more examples in the DDK. The DDK appears to suggest looking at more examples as it says the following:


Before crafting your own command names for commands not mentioned above, we recommend looking through similar devices in Roomie for appropriate command names. Roomie keys off many different command names for many different types of devices for remote formatting purposes, feedback, and other functionality.

However as far as I know I have no visibility to these since they are all bundled in the app.

Please help.

Thanks -apri

The command names referred to there are listed under Page 10 of the DDK under the topic Reserved Command Names.

Thanks for the quick reply. I see those specific commands.

My question/request is more general though - it would be extremely helpful to have a smattering of different examples from different products you have already integrated to give us more clues of how to integrate different types of devices.

Successful examples can be very informative. All I have right now for IP is the one example provided in the DDK and my non-working matrix plist :frowning:

Could you help with maybe a couple more IP examples - for example I think it would help me to see the Atlona IP matrix control plus a UDP example. I have no idea whether I'm encoding the UDP commands appropriately.

Thanks again -apri

I agree! More examples are a big help! Even if they are examples based on the items that are currently supported!

I would love to get some examples. I am playing with the Wink API now and would love to get a better understanding of integrating Wink into Roomie. It would be awesome if I could get the Vera system as an example.

2014

Post:
Okay, I purchased this app for iOS and all the in-app purchases as well.

It works well about 70% of the time for my networked TV (Samsung, no power on) and Denon (fails on all audio mode changes, and some other secondary commands).

For XBMC, it doesn't work at all. It sees all my XBMC instances, seems to connect, but doesn't control anything. I'm using OpenElec builds, the most recent Frodo releases.

For MythTV, it doesn't seem to have an IP module for this. Am I missing something? Is this something I can build an IP module for myself?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Post:
It works perfectly for my Raspberry Pi raspbmc (xbmc).

Your Samsung, how old is it? I have one that Roomie discovers, but is too old to be controlled reliably. (2010 model) I use IR with it.

Post:
My samsung is a 2010, possibly 2011 (I don't totally remember - I can check model number when I get home).

For XBMC - is there anything special I need to do? I assume that if the control codes are showing blue (instead of red) that Roomie at least thinks it's successful?

And still hopeful for MythTV - anyone?

Post:
If you're using XBMC on Linux or Mac OS, you'll need to enter it via Manual IP using the port shown on the Webserver configuration screen in XBMC.

Please send support requests to support@roomieremote.com.

Post:
That's weird - I'll try when I get home, but it shows the right IP address in the "Roomie" remote screen, and there's no indication of a connection failure.

I'll post back tonight, but my guess is that will make no difference (I hope I'm wrong).

Post:
Well gosh, that worked. I needed to pick JSON, but it works now. Thanks!

Post:
My Samsung is a 2010 and shows, but cannot be controlled. It is not listed in the roomie compatability list either :frowning:

Good on the XBMC. BTW, my Rasp BMC system was discovered just fine by Roomie, and it does run on Debian Linux

Post:
My XBMCs are discovered just fine, but apparently I need to enter the information manually, versus picking them from the list. Weird.

2013

Post:
I have an Xtreamer Ultra with Windows 8 on it, running XBMC (among other apps).

No matter how I configure iTach it doesn't power up the Xtreamar, nor control it - for example the arrow keys.

I have the original remote which works fine. Also I have a generic remote for windows media center which works fine and turns on the xbmc (and control the arrow keys).

I was trying to configure it as Xtremer - All Models, Microsoft Media Center (all 3 options), but with no luck.

Nothing works, except for the Windows Media Center (Original) which doesn't turn on the Xtreamer, but is able to control windows keys (like arrows, enter, backspace) - only once for each key - I can move the arrow right, but only once. After that I can use another key and than right will work again. THIS IS ODD I know.

My TV and Cable were both configured on IR port 3. All sit side by side. Working great. I'm also able to control XBMC via IP once the Xtreamer is on...

I also tried to change the Repeats interval, and switched from IRBlasters to a standard one on a different port - nothing helped.

I also tried the learning function. was able to learn commands from teh cable remote which worked, but this Xtreamer power on command, even when learned, was not working.

I'll appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Brokoly

Post:
The key issue is covered in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

Turning off the debounce may impact the power issue as well. It would be worth re-running your tests after fixing that. We don't know how Xtreamer differs their commands from WMC beyond that. You may want to contact their support.

Post:
Thanks for the fast reply.

I don't believe it is related to the OS installed on the device, as this is the power on button that is not working.

In addition, the original Xtreamer remote and another generic windows media center are working fine - turning on the Xtreamer - so i don't have much to tell Xtreamer support - the Xtreamer is working fine.

it is quite odd, I agree. Everything else is working with the iTach/Roomie remote - all but the power of the Xtreamer.

Post:
The problem of windows media center remote working every second click - was indeed solved by changing the configuration in the registry for Toggle Codes.
It didn't solve Xtreamer Ultra power on problem.
I was also not able to learn the power off command from within Roomie.
Luckily, I was able to use iLearn which I downloaded from iTach and add this command using Roomie DDK as a custom device.
It works now!!!
For future users, this is the plist I created:


<plist version="1.0">
<array>
<dict>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
<key>XtreamerON</key><string>36000,%d,1,96,32,16,16,16,16,16,32,16,32,48,32,16,16,16,16,16,
16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,
16,32,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,32,16,16,16,
16,16,16,32,32,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,
16,32,16,16,32,16,16,16,3612</string>
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>gc</string>
<key>brand</key>
<string>Xtreamer</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>Ultra</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>13</integer>
</dict>
</array>
</plist>

2013

**Hi Roomie!

I have been playing with changing the background image on my customised remotes, however with varying level of success:

* Somtimes no change is reflected (possilby the image is small and sitting behind the remote template?)

* The background image is replaced sucessfully in both portrait and landscape modes

* The background image is updated, but it does not fill the whole screen (or fills the 'ipad' screen but not the full remote when you scroll down).

I have looked but not seen any guides on standard resolutions - but have been using iPad HD background images so expect this would be plenty large enough?

I have also ensured they are converted to .png files, although they do show in my custom collection when .jpg or *.png.

Can you please let me know if I need to look for a minimum size image or if I'm doing something wrong - particualry when 'no' image appears after applying a custom background?

Thanks!

**Using an iPad screen size image will only work if your Virtual Remote is only that big. If your Virtual Remote is 3000 pixels high (with scrolling), you would need a 3000 pixel high image. The iPad screen size is 1024x768. There is no "correct" size because it depends on the size of your Virtual Remote.

No image is either that it is way too small, or uses the wrong format. Formats are discussed in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

**Thanks Roomie. I might being a bit thick but how then do you know the pixel size of each Virtual Remote?
I had referred to the FAQ and again confused on how one works out the correct size per the statement "Once you have the images you need in the proper format and size".

I've got all images as PNG format and I understand the setup for Retina display, but that is not what I'm trying to achieve (just yet!).

**The size of your Virtual Remote is indeterminate. And you might change or add to it at anytime. So just overcompensate in the vertical. If you know it's always going to be small, you can just go with screen size. Otherwise, to handle even very large Virtual Remotes go with a vertical of 2000 or 3000 perhaps. It's up to you.

**Thanks but how can a virtual remote be so large - as in to allow 2000 or 3000 pixels high. Even a Desktop image is only 1920x1280 pixels for HD quality. I have an image this size which did not even appear when applied, yet I had another image of 1024 x 1024 pixels and it worked (just a little short on one side). Do dimensions matter (square vs rectangle images)?

**Virtual Remotes scroll. They can be as tall as you want them to be. Horizontal dimensions would never need more than 1024 as VRs grow vertically.

2013

**I'm very excited to hear about the use of MCE with roomie! Is there any documentation on how I get it working?

kevin

**Hey I was just about to start a thread on this.

I'm totally confused about how to get the mouse/keyboard working.

**Note that if you are using a custom command set, you would need to update your command set with the enclosed .MOUSE commands. Just add each .MOUSE line at the top to your version to enable the mouse control.

When you have the correct commands in your set, or if you're using the defaults, just tap the screen button at the top of the Virtual Remote to activate mouse control mode.

**thank you for the response but im not sure what I have to do with that file can you give me a little bit more on how to make this work?

**If you've never used the custom code set from support before, then you wont need it to get mouse support working. Just add it the usual way as per the IP Compatibility list.

The file above is just to help the many users to whom we've provided that command set in the past an easy way to update their custom commands for MCE Controller.

**That is VERY COOL. Thanks for implementing that!

2013

**Tried and failed miserably last night to use the iTach Flex and tri-port with a dual IR emitter from SnapAV (customer has 4 IR-only devices). Are there any other dual emitters that are known to work well? I see the Xantech 286D on Roomie's Amazon site, but do not know whether it works well with the Flex, or just with the regular iTach.

**I spoke with tech support over at Global Cache re: splitting the beam; they suggested getting an IR emitter with no blink; this way it should still have enough juice to run both devices. You can find such an animal over at SmartHome.com (dual spitter is pn-8171S, single emitter is pn-8170S) -- unfortunately, they don't sell mono y splitters; I had to order one off Amazon (pn-IR9324G). The tech recommended no more than two emitters per port, though.

I'll post again once I actually have the items and get a chance to try them out.

-g-

PS -- if you do have an iTach IP2IR (black and red box, ethernet) and are having issues with the blaster's range give Global Cache a call at 541-899-4800 -- they can walk you through determining if yours is part of a batch that need to be swapped out. Cheers!

**Thanks for the info, garisimo! I'll try a few different brands. As you alluded, the SnapAV dual has a feedback light, so that might be the culprit. I just don't want to go to either full IR distribution block or another iTach Flex for just one too many devices.

**As an update to the blaster issue, I received the replacement from Global Cache and it works great -- I can control equipment across the room, now. As to the splitter with the dual emitters, I will post later when I have a chance to set it up.

Cheers!

-g-

**Splitter is set up with one ir to the ATV, the other to a fan; works great!

-g-

**Xantech 286D does indeed work well with the Flex. Also tried successfully with no-name IR emitters (no visible feedback) with Radio Shack mono splitter.

2013

**Hi,

I live in a country where the channel guide is not supported. I need to create a screen when watching tv with my own channel logos and ir commands. for e.g. CNN is on channel 69 so I want to have the CNN logo with IR commands 6 and 9 programmed.

Please advise if that is possible and if so then how to go about it.

Also, please let me know how to disable the builtin channel guide.

Thanks & Regards,

**Disabling the built-in guide is part of the Guide Settings at the top of the Guide. You can turn it off per-activity.

The best way to do what you want right now is to create an Activity called Channels perhaps and put all your favorite channel buttons there on a custom Remote Design. Version 1.8 has a new feature called Popup Activities that will make that smoother as well. Tentatively, we're hoping to include extensive guide channel customization in version 1.9, but that's a ways away, so we'll see.

**Ok Thanks. One other question is that I am confused by the delay in command. Lets say that I have 2 commands. Power on and Input 1. I want to send the power on command right aways and then wait 2 seconds to send the input 1 command. I have tried and seen differing results. Please let me know what is the best way to do this.

Regards,

**Assuming the commands are targeted for the same device, you would just set Delay Next Command for the POWER ON command to 2 seconds.

**Ok. Thanks

**The guide customization sounds great. I have most of the channels with real info and guide now from different operator. in the future I would liike to change numbers and add a feed in other channels and information.

2013

**I’m getting no response when connecting iTach to the rear IR port on Velodyne-DD10. With the blaster it works fine. I’ve tried both mono and stereo cables but no success. On the Velodyne home page they state “ Velodyne has tested and verified the IR input jack compatibility with the Xantech and Elan brand products”

Maybe the iTach isn’t compatible with the Velodyne rear IR port? My receiver and DVD are ok with rear IR ports. Anybody here using the iTach with the Velodyne rear IR port?

**Sounds like that may be a Xantech style port. You might want to try the GC-CGX cable with it. You might also ask Global Caché support if they have any support records of that device needing the GC-CGX cable.

**Thank you for the reply. I Googled the cable and found a post on Avsforum in the official Velodyne support thread (page 284 if anybody is interested). The question is if Global Cache GC-CGX converter cable is usable with signals from an Itach IP-IR.

Strangely, the answer from Velodyne support is: “The Digital Drive series subwoofer's IR input connector is not compatible with Xantech or other brands. It is a proprietary remote eye accessory available from Velodyne.”

Further down the tread he follows up with:” The external remote eye is available from Velodyne, but is nothing more than an external IR sensor with a long cable. The idea being if your subwoofer was placed someplace that prevented the integrated IR sensor from easily detecting the remote, you could place this sensor near the rest of your gear then run the cable to the subwoofer.”

I don’t get it. Velodyne FAQ explains this IR port to be compatible with Xantech and Elan brand products. This guy however claims it’s not compatible with anything other than a proprietary IR sensor.

I think I’ll be using one of the IR emitters on the sub.

2013

My FIOS DVR(QIP-7232) has a remote IR input jack. Can I run a cable from iTach directly into the IR input jack?

Thanks...

Here is some info I found on my question:

In order to know if the connecting block input is directly compatible with our IR output, you will need to find the specifications for the input jack on your hardware. In order to safely connect our output to any IR input, you will need to make sure that any voltage supplied by the Verizon input jack is isolated out, so as to prevent any voltage from being applied to our connector from the outside. Also, the input voltage threshold must match our output voltage in order for the device to respond to the commands. If the input threshold for the device is a 12V threshold, then you will need to use a conversion cable to change our output voltage to a 12V signal. This cable is called the GC-CGX cable, and should be available at any Global Caché distributor. I have provided a link to our sensors and cables available on the website below. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Person that this reply waa aimed at tried it and it does not work in that application. It is designed to accept ir cmds from a remote ir receiver(like I have on my bedroom fios box.

2013

Managed to find the translated codes on the internet. But how do I import this into the roomieremote software?

The code is 56 bits, decoded into the following 7 bytes (in hexadecimal).

02 20 d0 84 30 31 55 – on/off
02 20 d0 84 30 21 45 – fan speed 1
02 20 d0 84 30 22 46 – fan speed 2
02 20 d0 84 30 23 47 – fan speed 3
02 20 d0 84 30 40 24 – timer cancel
02 20 d0 84 30 41 25 – timer 1hr
02 20 d0 84 30 43 27 – timer 3hr
02 20 d0 84 30 46 27 – timer 6hr
02 20 d0 84 30 4e 2a – sleep mode

Source: irq5.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/in ... ls-part-2/

Those aren't usable in any standard form. Roomie will accept numerous formats though. If you can get standard Pronto-style codes, they will paste right in via the DDK:

Roomie Remote Support

2013

My Panasonic SA-BTT490 home theater system has WiFi and the setup can allow remote control connections via IP...like the roomie. And it actually shows up in the device list for IP control.

However, it does not appear to have any commands that can be sent. For instance, what I really want is the discrete commands for INPUT SELECTION. The freakin' remote does not have this. In operation, when one turns it on, the HTS is at the HOME screen--which is like the top-level setup screen. To get to HDMI1 (which is connected to the Zone 4 HDMI output from my SC-67), I have to continually hit the iPod (aka RADIO/EXT-IN) button until HDMI1 appears.

I want the Activity "Watch DVR3" to power the unit on (discrete ON), select HDMI1, turn on Zone 4, and select HDMI3 (DVR3) on the SC-67.

However, this device not show up (yet) on the IP list.

Sometimes our auto-discovery is a bit too accepting and can list devices that are not actually on the supported list:

Device Compatibility

That is the master IP control list. Anything not on it is a gamble at best. (There are devices that work that we don't list as we haven't verified them, but generally the list should be considered the final word.)

You could try to trick it into acting like a Panasonic BD player just to see if it would work, but you certainly wouldn't find input selection commands in that. If those exist, they're much more likely to exist in the infrared set.

Somehow, the codes eventually showed up. However, roomie does not believe it can control the volume. I have checked the command list and there are no volume buttons. I'll have to ping Panasonic to see if (a) they have these controls available via IP; (b) if they have discrete on/off controls; and (c) if the have discrete input select controls.

2013

Okay, I’m hoping someone out there can give me some tips. I’ve successfully set up serial control via my previous RC system (URC/MSC-400/MX-800s).

Now I’m trying to get serial control working with Roomie/iTach. I’m having zero luck. I have an Anthem D2v, but that’s sort of immaterial is that’s just the command set (which I know works since I had to set it up by hand before).

When I try to use Roomie with the iTach Serial/IP, nothing works at all. I see the iTach blink a little on the serial port, so I assume something is being sent, but nothing actually happens on the device.

I tried the built-in Anthem device, and I tried creating my own custom device (which I’ve done successfully before with Roomie with IP devices), but nothing works.

Any guidance, or any way to further diagnose? Can I get some diagnostic information from Roomie or the iTach to see what is being sent and received? Is there any way to open up a RAW connection to the iTach to try sending commands manually, so I can start to narrow down where the problem is?

Thanks in advance for any help

For anyone interested, there's an iTest tool (Mac and PC) that let's you connect directly with an iTach device and send commands of different types (text, binary, hybrid).

globalcache.com/downloads/

Will be testing tonight to narrow the diagnostics path, will post back what I find out.

So my problem was that the serial port had to be at 115200 N81, and the format had to be lineio. I guess I never had that specific combination.

The iTest tool was very helpful as it allowed me to test just the serial port configuration, so I was focused on just a couple of variables at a time.

Will thoroughly test this weekend and report results of stability and accuracy, and if the buffering works well.

Getting closer to completely replacing what now seems like an archaic URC system! I just have to buy 7 x iPods now to replace my remotes...

2013

Hello,

I am having an issue with changing channels from the guide with in roomie remote. Windows media center calls for channels in a xx.x format but roomie just enteres 3 digits. How can this be fixed? I'm using xbox 360 slims as media center extenders to a Windows 7 media center PC. I have the Xbox as the device in the configuration and the default xbox remote assign to the activity.

Another issue is you can only change the channel if you are watch live TV or within the guide. Is there a way to fix this as well? Maybe insert the guide command first then enter the digits xx.x with the decimal point to properly change the channel even within the media center start screen?

Thanks

If you have a provider setup to provide the correct channel numbers with separators, the MCE command set already contains the necessary DIGIT SEPARATOR command that would cause that to work. So either the command set you're using does not support that or the provider you have selected for the guide isn't using those fractional channel numbers.

I found the only device type that works is the Xbox 360. The provider does show the decimal for the channel number. If I choose MCE the remote does not work. The Xbox remote settings are set to both. Has anyone got this to work using the Xbox as an extender and how?
I go to add a command to the XBOX 360 device but dont see teh seperator command. Is there a way to add this to make the XBOX remote send the xx.x format from the guide to chane the media center channels?

2013

I'm trying to add a DVR set top box from Comcast - Motorola RNG200N via IR control. I'm surprised not to see this model listed. I tried the Motorola DVR group, and while it shows the correct remote it doesn't work. Any suggestions?

I wouldn't think I would need to set this up manually for such a common device.

Thanks for your help!

The RNG series is Cisco and Pace. Manufacturers can be confusing in a few of those cases due to acquisitions and rebranding.

Thank you. It is odd since it has the Motorola logo right on the front of the device. But registering it as a Pace device did solve the problem - though there is no original remote like there was for the Motorola.

2013

the two cost the same yet the iTach Wi-Fi to Infrared Adapter comes with a blaster/3x IR and the infra control pack...

why does the flex cost so much more? size ? anything else i'm missing ? hidden features ?

First, the original iTach WF2IR isn't being discontinued. It's still a great product.

The Flex does have numerous improvements. This is not a complete list.


  1. Wi-Fi has been significantly upgraded from 802.11b on the WF2IR to 802.11g with WPS on the Flex.

  2. The Global Port is unique to the Flex series. It allows the Flex to serve as either a serial adapter or an IR adapter just by swapping the cable. A relay cable for the Global Port will also be introduced at a later date. This feature can also be considered an investment protector allowing you to reconfigure things later.

  3. The Flex Link Serial cable is something we've really been looking forward to. The Flex auto-detects whether it should be a null-modem cable or straight through and acts accordingly. It also includes a gender changer. We expect this cable will eliminate 90%+ of user confusion over serial control.

  4. The form factor of the Flex Wi-Fi is significantly smaller and includes a mounting dock perfect for mounting even behind a flat screen TV.

  5. The Flex models include onboard storage and additional processing to support future TBA functionality not possible with the original iTach series.

  6. The Flex uses a USB power connector allowing new options for powering the Flex. The original iTach also includes a USB power cable with each device, but the actual connector on the device is not USB. This is a subtle but interesting Flex advantage in some cases.


All but the first of course also apply to the IP2IR versus the Flex IP.

One correction to your post. The WF2IR does not and never has "included" the Infrared Control Pack. In fact, the product page has multiple statements that does not occur. Just wanted to clarify that. It's impossible for a physical product to "include" an in-app purchase, the App Store just doesn't allow that.

Thank you.

2013

Hello.

I wanted to start by saying thank you for creating such a great program. I've really enjoyed working with it, and I'm slowly convincing my wife that it's great too!

Now to the issue. I'm using an Xbox 360 as a media extender and have WMC delivering content from my computer to the Xbox. My issue is how to get WMC to start directly when I press the corresponding activity button. It will turn on the Xbox just fine, but basically, I'm getting stuck on the first screen of selecting an avatar, and not actually getting straight into WMC. I can then hit the Windows button on the displayed remote to get WMC to load, but that's obviously not straightforward to someone who doesn't know the system. Question is, is it just an issue of timing that I need to have enough delays prior to having Roomie hit the Windows button after the Xbox starts or is there a command I need to use that I'm just not aware of.

Thanks for your help.

Yan

Well, I kept playing with it (the Xbox that is), and found the answer to my own question! In the Xbox 360's system setup page, there is the option for it to start directly in WMC when the device is powered on - Problem solved! :slight_smile:

2013

Is there any predefined IR code for TVPad? en.tvpad.hk/

That's not in the main library at this time, but assuming it comes with an infrared remote, it can be learned using the new IR learning feature of Roomie 1.7.

2013

I'm confused, is the blaster simply a stronger version than the IR emitter ? the description is very vague about the reason why someone would choose one over the other

This page has a diagram that may be helpful:

store.roomieremote.com/itach-ip2ir/

The blaster addresses many devices in a line of sight area of around 20 feet. An emitter addresses 1 device via direct attachment to that device. Note in the diagram example how 1 emitter is attached directly to the TV and the blaster meanwhile is used to control multiple components in a cabinet.

Thank you.

2013

Can you add this sound processor?
I have used all that it brings Roomie and none works appropriately and buttons are absent.

On the Web are the IR codes.

halcro.com/logic/productsSSP220.php

Thank you in advance.

The IR codes link on that page doesn't contain IR codes for itself. If you have a custom IR device, the codes can be learned with the built-in Infrared Learning feature.

That device also appears to have a serial interface, so you could also likely add serial support to Roomie using the DDK:

Roomie Remote Support

Thank you.

I add a new device learning the original and work fine.

The problem is that I can`t add the sound controller in the activity from a custom device.

What can I to do?

Thanks a lot.

2013

I just switched to CenturyLink Prism yesterday, and the set top box they installed was a "Pace IPH8005". They told me they had just started using them in the past few weeks.

I do have the universal subscription, but it wasn't in the library.

I was able to heavily modify the "Pace Tds850hd" and make it work (many of the IR codes worked, however many of them were mapped to the wrong functionality).

Just a heads up. Any plans on adding it? I couldn't get my IR learner on my Wifi2IR box to read the codes from the remove, so I couldn't set it up fresh.

2013

Hi,

I'm using a dreambox compatible SAT receiver, but I need to use a username and password to login to my sat receiver. I do not want to turn off authentication on the sat receiver as I have setup a port forwarding to access the device from outside my home network.

Could you please add the option for a username & password for the dreambox device?



Thanks,

Phil

We can trivially add the authentication option to that set. Support can provide an updated set for you until it appears in the next library update.

Thank you.

2013

If you need to learn a supplemental code, it's very easy to do that with the new IR learning feature:

Roomie Remote Support

Can I just add the one code that's not working?

I did try learning IR via the ITACH, but nothing happened. Obviously not doing something correctly.

OK, I added a custom Bryston Receiver as a device and learned only the POWER OFF command via the ITACH. I then added the newly learned POWER OFF command to my Power Off Activity. Works perfectly! Thanks!

NOTE: The reason learning the IR via the ITACH did not work previously was because of user error...I selected the wrong ITACH to learn the commands to...DUH... IR learning works great!

2013

Roomie's buttons for Rooms and Activities are completely blank. Ugh. I wish I hadn't upgraded.

If you remember what order your devices in the rooms, tapping that "area" will still bring up the device, which is working. Not ideal, but workable until an update. :slight_smile:


It will be many months before iOS 7 is released. We will make sure a version of Roomie compatible with iOS 7 is available timed for the release of iOS 7. If that requires a new release, we'll do that.

So yeah iOS 7 breaks other apps too. Also it crashes and reboots. So I wouldn't test it on a device I need.

noticed the same issue. Good thing I kept my old handheld remote and still have Roomie on my iPad

iOS 7 Beta 2 fixes this problem.

Ios7 beta3 must break it again. I've still got blank menus. Luckily I only upgraded one iPad to ios7 to 'test'. My other iPad still works and will stay on ios6 until Roomie is ready to support Ios7.

Can you release a beta for us to test?

The App Store does not allow betas of any kind.

The App Store also does not allow developers to release products with versions of the development environment that support iOS 7, yet – until iOS 7 is released.

Users who are part of the Roomie beta program will of course get access to betas when they begin, but an actual iOS 7 release of Roomie is not allowed by the App Store to be available until iOS 7 is actually released. So any app you see with some comment like "Works with iOS 7" etc. is really just bogus, likely to break again the next day, and unable to support anything that's actually in iOS 7.

That leaves only the wild guess strategy if we wanted to fix something in some random iOS 7 beta, and meanwhile as is evident from this very thread users are saying it doesn't work in beta 1, then it works great in beta 2, then it doesn't work again in beta 3 because it's a moving target and thus impossible to track. With a typical 7+ day turnaround time to get a version on the App Store, any "fix" we'd make for whatever issue someone saw in an iOS 7 seed would be out of date by the time it was published.

Thus, iOS 7 support will be released when iOS 7 is released.

We do also plan to add a small number of (5-7) beta testers in specific areas to the beta program before we begin. We'll announce that when the time comes.

Thank you.

Roomie works in iOS 7 Beta 4.

Really? I installed b4 yesterday and roomie doesn't send any command at all. so it is totally broken for me.

Working well on the iPad Mini with beta 4 for me. No more button issues, commands all seem to be working.

So interesting, how did you install the b4, was it an upgrade from b3 or a restore? I did a fresh restore on both iPa...

2013

Question: Has anyone gotten the Shinybow SB-5645LCM 4x4 HDMI Matrix working in Roomie? I found a great price on one but wanted to make sure it will work before I get it.

Here are some relevant links about it:

Product page: shinybowusa.com/shop/product ... cts_id=315

Manual: [shinybowusa.com/...

Staff response: This thread is super ancient. Shinybow support was added many eons ago.

2013

It would be convenient to integrate Synology DiskStations into Roomie for a full house integration solution. A serie of DS Apps already exist (DS finder, DS audio, DS cam and so on) so I imagine that this would be feasible. Would be great.
Thank you

S

I have a Synology box as well, and I love it. But I don't really see what I would want to make it do using Roomie.

I also have a DS411 and would like to bring up photos and also play movies I've loaded on to the media box via iTunes. I guess that would be there from the iTunes integration already available for roomie. Is that correct?

I just thought of another use. There are IP cameras integrated to the synology box as a surveillance station. looking through to those cameras from the TV would be nice. There is an iOS app for that from Synology but nice to have it all in one so to speak.

What we need is a version of Roomie Agent that would run on the Diskstation.

We use a Synology Diskstation here already. It looks like a basic Linux dev environment. So the difficulty of this would be equivalent to building Roomie Agent for Raspberry Pi and/or Linux which is something else we're considering.

We need a Roomie Agent software port to the Diskstation. This is where something like Roomie Agent should live as we all use our Diskstation's for always on servers. ++1

I agree, the diskstation has enough added benefits to allow a 'Dashboard' you can select from using the Roomie, to get cameras, statuses, disk reports, resource management, video/audio station, etc.

Since it is always on, lets leverage it !!

Please support it!

Just watch out about cpu on the diskstation.

I think diskstations are way underpowered, cpu-wise.

I had a few things running on mine that slowed down disk I/O!

My standard is 94-101 mB/s

When I used it for some stuff like downloads, etc, the transfers dropped to 78-88 mB/s

And cpu sat at 40-60 percent always.

So, as long as Roomie agent is not a cpu hog, I vote for it too!

+1

(about 150.000 Synology NAS units sold per year...:wink:

+1

more than anything I would like to be able to integrate ds video into roomie or simple control as its now called. Similar to how plex is integrated. It would be nice to be able to browse videos without having to leave the app.

2013

I am currently using a Logitech Harmony Link in one of the rooms of my house to control a relatively simple setup...a monitor, a cable box, receiver and a BluRay player. While the Link generally gets the job done, sometimes it can be a little dodgy. It also can't control things like my Sonos system or my Insteon dimmers, so the purpose-builtness and enhanced features of Roomie are compelling.

However, I think there are some potential UX issues that may be a barrier to adoption for us. Right now with the Link, it's very easy to simultaneously use multiple remotes, since each remote logs into the Link via the Harmony service. So my wife can turn the system on when she gets home from work using her iPhone, we can both control it throughout the evening via our respective remotes, and then I can turn it off via my iPad before going to bed. Each controller always reflects the current state of the system, so for instance my iPad knows that the current activity is say, "Watch TV", and is aware of the state of those devices, etc.

Of course, there are downsides to the Harmony service, like when it's not available, rendering the Link into a mocking green-eyed cyclops while you're trying to watch TV. :slight_smile:

Now my wife & I maintain our own Apple IDs on our devices. I understand that Roomie is keyed to an Apple ID, so I'm not sure how that would work between my iPhone & iPad (which use my Apple ID) and her iPhone (which uses hers). From the FAQ it sounds like this could be an issue for sharing control between users (or perhaps even being able to access our devices at all).

So I was curious if anyone else has this situation. Buying an iPad or touch as a dedicated controller is not an attractive idea. For us, that idea went out with the Pronto and handheld Harmony remotes. :slight_smile:

You can share your copy on both devices as per the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

You can also use multiple iOS devices for synchronization. If you set the same iCloud account on each, you would have Activity Memory which provides live synchronization of the current Activity. You could also use Dropbox to synchronize settings without using the same iCloud account.

Yes, I did read the FAQ, which is why i posted the question. :slight_smile: The FAQ says that all devices must use the same Apple ID, and I mentioned that my wife & I have different Apple IDs on our devices (as I would expect most people to).

So for instance, if I bought Roomie from the AppStore for my devices, and purchased the Home Theater and IR Device upgrades, how would my wife get access to those on her iPhone, which is registered under her Apple ID, without her having to pay for them again?

WRT device sync, using iCloud or DropBox is a novel idea, but at the end of the day is it really any different from my current dependency on the Myharmony.com service being available? To some extent I can unde...

2013

How do you enter RSTP Camera feeds?

Do you add device through manual IP entry? or are only those two logitech cameras supported.

Thanks

There are two ways to add RTSP cameras. The simple way is to just add a URL Opens in Roomie command to an Activity. This requires an RTSP URL like:

rtsp://192.168.1.10/LowResVideo

You may need to look on the web for what URL your camera needs.

The other way and the way that allows adding it to Virtual Remotes as depicted in some of the screenshots on the site is to create a custom command set that looks almost identical to the enclosed file. You would just customize this for your particular URL and camera brand/category.

Thank you.

If your camera does not do rtsp which there are a LOT of them you can also do URLs like this:

URL:Port/videostream.cgi?user=[UserName]&pwd=[Password]

If the URL for my Vivotek cameras is like this - /cgi-bin/viewer/video.jpg - how would I set them up in roomie? Thanks for the help!

The support we added in 1.9 is just for RTSP capable cameras. For instance here is a site that lists tons of camera RTSP URLs:

soleratec.com/rtsp/

Some cameras don't support RTSP. Anything that ends in ".jpg" is not RTSP. That's most likely a different standard called Motion JPEG. In some cases you may find that using "Opens URL in Roomie" may allow those to work, but that's all based on the iOS Safari implementation and will be identical to whether it works there in general.

Thank you.

Thank you very much! The Vivotek cameras I have are listed as having a RTSP URL so i'll try that as soon as I get home!

If we modify the custom .plist for our camera then what do we do to integrate that with Roomie? Do you have a link that you could post here?

The last section of the DDK provides steps for loading that into Roomie:

Roomie Remote Support

Thank you.

Here is another site with a really detailed list of ip-camera manufacturers along with the RTSP URL listings... Seems to have even more companies and camera models then the other sites listed... Hope this helps someone else too.

securityhive.com/rtsp

2013

I used to use an app called hippo remote, the mouse control on an ipad or iphone was very smooth.



I tried out mce controller with roomie and my god, it feels like im using a mouse from 1995, it is incredibly slow and laggy. Is there any plans to improve the performance of this even somewhat?

It seems okay to us on our test systems, so it's possible there's some variation based on factors that MCE Controller is impacted by on your system – something to ask MCE Controller people. Sleep and battery settings on a desktop often cause network lag issues for server software like MCE Controller for instance.

Meanwhile, we do plan to investigate additional mouse control solutions for Windows. Mouse control is part of the command system so it is possible to add more fairly easily. On OS X, we have both Roomie Agent and Remote Buddy hooked into the same system and they work smoothly.

Thank you.

Hmm I am hard wired on a gigabit network.
if you try hippo remote app you can see how smooth it can be.



My htpc is not on a battery, its plugged in and has no battery setting.

I like mce mouse support as I do use for my htpc, it is fantastic integration by the roomie team, but sadly as it is now it was just basically unusable.

You're mixing up the app with the destination server. Apps such as Roomie, etc. are on one side of the equation. Whatever interprets the commands as a server is on the other. MCE Controller behaves in a certain way as a server for you which sounds like there is a bug or problem on that side. We don't write the server app except in the case of Roomie Agent, so we have no control over how that server behaves for you. It's quite smooth for us in all 3 supported cases.

Thank you.

No I am well aware mce controller is a different application roomie has nothing to do with.



All I am saying is it works, its just incredibly slow, is there a way to accelerate the mouse movements with your app?



I mean it does work for me just not very good. We may have different definitions of good.

Or would quicker mouse movement be on the mce controller side as well?

And a few other things when Im typing with mce controller using your app and the iphone ios keyboard the back button does not do anything so if you mistype something the back button does not work.
Also hitting done does not seem to do anything either. So if i type a url in i cannot backspace and hitting done wont enter the url like it normally would.

And if the mouse support is poor due to the mce side (I see on his forum the creator said he has never actually tested it according to a post on his forum) it is good to hear in your first post you guys are considering additional mouse options for windows.

Sorry one last post on this, tried this on 2 other computers outside of my network, one at my office, and another at a friends, they all performed about the same. If roomie could offer acceleratio...

2013

I am very impressed with your application and it's ease of setup and use. Some time ago I tried to set up a competitor's application and became quickly disenchanted by the complex "rules" req'd for even a few devices.

Now I have my three basic DirecTV receivers all working well and two AVRs (Yamaha and Onkyo), I need to order at least two iTachs for two of the rooms, probably three to include the bedroom, maybe four if I decide to control the kids TV room.

Because of the need for all these iTachs I would really like to use a more "portable" IR but I use an iPhone 5 (lightning connector). I read about the L5 end of life.... Is there any chance a better portable IR solution may be able to replace the L5?

Assuming the answer to a portable blaster is "NO" then I'm a bit overwhelmed by the other iTach options. Don't really know which is "best" ...I can almost certainly reach most of the stacked components with an ethernet cable, but the Theater projector is on the ceiling in the middle of a room (kind of far from the "rack). Starting with the most complex Theater room I would like to control -

Yamaha RX-A1010 AVR (seems to be working great with IP Control)
DTV receiver (seems to be working great with IP Control)
Panasonic PT-AE2000u (IR, but I belive it can work with serial)
ButtKicker Amplifier (IR)
X10 Lighting controls (IR, but I would consider replacing as X10 is flaky)
Windows based HTPC (not sure how this will work with Roomie,if at all)
PS4 (I realize not available at this time)

For the Living Room -

Onkyo TX-NR807 AVR (seems to be working great with IP Control)
DTV receiver (seems to be working great with IP Control)
Visio 65" "SmartTV" I forget the model number but despite being internet enabled (smart) it seems to be missing IP controls, thus I assume IR only....

For the Bedroom

DTV receiver (seems to be working great with IP Control)
Another Visio TV, not smart at all, need IR control

The "kids room" would have -

DTV receiver (should work with IP)
Older rear projection Mitsubishi TV (IR)
Onkyo Blu Ray player (IR)
Some cheap generic DVD player (IR)

Is there an economical way to cover all of these devices?

The L5 company is in fact now out of business, so there's nothing to be done about them.

We're not presently aware of any lightning IR dongles in the market or forthcoming. In general the iTach Flex is now so small and simple that it would seem to qualify as both portable and cheap as well.

Components on ceilings can usually be best addressed either by the blaster pointing to it (the blaster has a roughly 20-30 foot range), or by placing a dedicated iTach WiFi right at the projector location. If you do use a dedicated iTach like that, you could potentially go serial.

If you're interested in more elaborate wiring solutions, there is also the option of consolidating by using inside wiring running CAT5 to a central location splicing in emitters as needed from an IR distribution block. You may be able to reduce the number of iT...

2013

When I download and look at any of the .plist files in Dropbox, they're no longer XML files? I can see all of the DDK files fine (using EditX and Dreamweaver).

Here's a snippet of the first line (several unviewable characters show as blanks):

bplist00¢CÖ
@VmethodUbrandTtypeScatZemptycodesUcodesRgcW

Any idea why the dropbox backup files are being corrupted? I also have to delete the Codes file for it to download a new one (ie it won't override the existing file?)

Z

Those aren't corrupt, that's just a variant of Apple's plist format. It's the binary version of it. They can be converted back to plain XML on Mac OS X using this command:

plutil -convert xml1 yourFile.plist

Thank you.

ahh... That explains a lot. I'll google Plist on Win 7 and see what I can find to convert it. Will a converted (ie not binary) file import correctly after I've edited it, or is that going to be an issue?

I anticipate the next question is why muck with it at all :slight_smile:

I'm trying to confirm some learned Onkyo IR codes that seem to be too long (ie feedback led flashes for 2-3 seconds and command randomly fails, so I suspect it may not have been learned correctly?)

Plus I'm very nosy :slight_smile:
Thanks,
Z

The two file types are completely interchangeable. Makes no difference which type you use where.

Learned IR codes can sometimes be too long or contain too many repeats if the button was for instance held down too long while learning. Editing the code itself can be a solution for that. The basic technique is to look for the huge number and slice off everything after that. You'll see something like a sequence of 12,20,12,20,12,20 and then suddenly you will see 12,20,3450,12,20. If you cut off everthing after the 3450, that generally removes the extra repeats from a learned code.

Thank you.

OK, I give up, I can't find a Windows Plist editor that doesn't look like bogus.. Any recommendations?

Z

Just send the file to support and we'll convert it to XML for you.

Thank you.

Thanks for the offer.

I found Plist Editor for Windows that seems to do the trick, so I'm dangerous once again :slight_smile:

Z

Windows users have access to plutil as well if you have itunes (see the following) Worked perfect for me!:
The program plutil is native to Mac OS X (as of 10.2), however it is also included when iTunes is installed on a Windows PC. On linux libplist [1] also provides an equivalent ofplutil.
plutil on a Windows PC is stored in:

C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesAppleApple Application Support
Which can be added to the PATH in Environmental variables so plutil can be run from anywhere If you could like to copy out the plutil executable to another directory it requires a number of DLL's to function. These dlls are: ASL, CFNetwork...

2013

hi, i'm having a problem obtaining brightness feedback from my isy since having upgraded to 1.8.2. with the prior release you defined a default device when adding the isy to a room. it appears you no longer have to do that. what's the secret to get this info with the new release? i've tried adding the device id when adding buttons while selecting brightness feedback but it isn't working.

The Insteon support was so completely revamped for 1.8 that it is usually simplest to remove the old device and just add it fresh. The old default device concept no longer exists because all devices now work that way effectively. We'd recommend deleting the old device, adding it fresh, and make sure the device settings panel for the new device shows that the manifest is available at the bottom, otherwise tap that to Retrieve Manifest.
Thank you.

ok, did it. i then added an activity that turned a device on. the activity opens the isy remote, i didn't use a remote design. when selecting the activity the device turns on as i wanted and roomie displays the status of all my insteon devices. exactly how do i define a remote/button that just displays the status of the one device i just turned on? again i tried adding a button to a remote ( i tried button, button slider and slider). the default isy is shown, feedback is set to brightness and i've entered the device as xx xx xx. it's not displaying the brightness 0 or 255...

Button feedback is binary. It just displays on/off. You could add a slider if you want to see Brightness levels.

To restrict the remote to just one area rather than all devices, set the Lighting Area in the Activity Settings – if you have configured your ISY to know which areas are associated with each of your lights.

If you want to further restrict it to just one light, you could just set the Opens Remote field to None to force it to create a blank Remote Design and then just add that one slider.

Thank you.

got it, thanks! something to be aware of however. when setting up display or slider buttons it appears they will not display the brightness levels if you include the leading zeros in the insteon addresses. for example 1F D AB works, 1F 0D AB does not work.

another question for you, how do you delete remote designs now? the delete design button no longer exists in the edit design pop up window.

Good catch. We'll fix that in the next maintenance release. Entering those IDs should work normally everywhere else in Roomie other than right there where you'll need to leave off leading zeros for 1.8.2.

Deleting Remote Designs is in the Remote Designs Settings panel. There is a summary there now of all your Remote Designs and how many Activities use each one, and that also allows you to delete any design.

Thank you.

thanks! i have another question. it appears you need to use the isy's remote in an activities "opens remote" field for any activity in which you want to obtain insteon device feedback? i can't get ...

2013

The double sided adhesive tape that affixes an iTach IR emitter to an A/V component seems to be losing its grip on some of my emitters so that the IR emitter falls off and the device can no longer be controlled.

Do you have any recommendation for a double sided adhesive that will securely affix the IR emitter to a sensor (without bonding it permanently)? Thanks.

The tape is pretty good, so much better than many years ago with other products. But in general a professional installation would indeed use a hot glue gun which provides a more precise and long lasting connection while also being easy to remove and replace. That would be something like this:

amazon.com/dp/B000NIFKRM/?tag=cyphersoft-20

I appreciate the reply and suggestion, but I've never used a hot glue gun before -- the heat will not damage the plastic finish on electronic components, correct? Also if the emitter has to be removed do you need to heat the glue again or does the glue just pull off? Thanks again.

Glue and glue guns vary widely. The one we linked is popular and simple and cheap. We use it all the time. The glue after it hardens can usually just be pulled off. It's easier to remove in general than adhesive.

Thank you -- I just placed an order for the glue gun through your store.

Interesting - had not thought about using a glue gun. Pardon my potential ignorance, but do you apply the hot melt glue between the IR emitter and the AV faceplate (i.e. is the glue IR transparent) or do you apply a ring of glue around the sides of the IR emitter to hold it in place (and is the glue then ugly/visible to the human eye?)

Also, although not ideal, is there a specific brand of double-stick tape widely available that works best if one wishes to continue using tape in the short term?

My reply is late to your question, but for archive purposes, I'll answer. You would apply the hot glue around the perimeter of the IR emitter, creating a bond between the emitter and the faceplate of the component. The glue will aggressively hold the emitter in place, but will have just enough give (when cold) to allow the emitter to be pried away from the faceplate when needed.

I have had good luck with "Scotch Clear Mounting Squares".
3M Scotch Mounting Squares, Clear

They need to be cut to size. They are double sided sticky, clear and thick. Easy to apply and remove.

2013

I currently have an SQBlaster and the SQRemote app. This system is integrated with my Vera home controller. I can create macros in SQRemote that call on Vera scenes as part of the macro. For example, if you hit pause on the movie, the lights go up to 100%. When you hit play again, the lights dim to 20%. The integration is very tight with Vera and there is a SQBlaster plugin for Vera that enable Vera to initiate SQBlaster actions.

One big downside is that SQConnect the company does not seem to exist any more.

On the positive end, the interface and controls available in Roomie appear to be far superior to those in SQRemote.

My two basic questions are:

1. Is there anyone out there with a Roomie set up (with whatever IR blaster hardware--iTach?) have their system integrated with Vera and can Roomie call Vera scenes?

2. Can you create multi-step macros with time delays/pauses with Roomie and apply them to a button or part of the interface?

I did see in the news announcement that Vera is now auto-detected.

Apologies if these questions are basic. This looks like an amazing app/system.

They do seem to have died. We tried to contact them to discuss supporting their hardware many times over the years and made it clear all they had to do was send us a box and we'd add support. Despite many assurances we were always about to get one, we never got one. It felt very shady. Something seemed to be wrong such that they could never get production boxes made and that dragged on for years and now they're probably gone. Anyway, it's too bad because the concept was good, but the hardware was very overpriced especially considering they had such limited software.

All of the items you described should be easy to setup with Roomie.

Hello triangledave,

I am very new to Roomie myself, but I thought I would chime in here and let you know my experience thus far. I have had Roomie up and running for about a week now; and I have to say I am VERY impressed so far. Like you, I am longtime Vera user. I have used SQRemote as a hardware beta tester and I continued to use it after the beta testing period.

In regards to your two questions above, I think I can answer them from a user perspective.

#1) Yes, Roomie does call Vera scenes using the "Scene Number". You have to get the scene number from Vera's web GUI.

#2) As Roomie responded above, yes you can. I'm not sure if you are more interested in delayed commands in Vera, or IR/Serial/IP commands (for AV devices) or not; but yes, I believed these are all possible.

I looked at, purchased, and attempted to configure iRule before diving into Roomie and I have to say I am not disappointed. While I have absolutely no doubt iRule is a great product; I am looking for something I can configure more quickly with less of a learning curve and Roomie has been just that for me thus far.

As far as tips from a noob, I would highly recommend comparing your equipment...

2013

I just purchased a Synaccess NP-05B power strip that can be controlled via HTTP, Telnet or RS-232 in order to be able to use Roomie to switch on and off two power amps in my home theater that I currently have to manually switch on and off.

I configured the NP-05B and can control any of the 5 outlets from my iPhone and Mac using HTTP in Safari, but the NP-05B does not respond to commands sent from Roomie.

As an example, a command to power on outlet 1 is:

10.0.1.230/cmd.cgi?A3%201%201

What I think might be causing the problem is that the NP-05B does not allow anonymous users to issue commands via HTTP. When I first issued the command in Safari I got an authentication pop-up that asked me enter my user name and password. I didn't see anything in the Roomie Development kit that explains how to handle HTTP authentication (or if it can be done).

As a workaround, I can use a Roomie action to open a URL but it only works if I set Roomie to open the URL in Safari, which of course takes me out of Roomie. If I use the "Silent" option or select the internal Roomie browser, the command fails.

Is there any way other than the workaround I described to get Roomie to send HTTP commands to the NP-05B (i.e., is there some way to automatically send a user name and password in response to an HTTP authentication request)? I think authentication would only need to be done once (or at least that's how it appears to work with Safari).

Below is the RoomieCodes.plist as I currently have it defined for testing. Thanks for any help you can offer!




<plist version="1.0">
<array>
<dict>
<key>brand</key>
<string>Synaccess</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>NP-05B</string>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
<key>POWER OFF 1</key>
<string>/cmd.cgi?$A3%201%200</string>
<key>POWER ON 1</key>
<string>/cmd.cgi?$A3%201%201</string>
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>http</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>21</integer>
</dict>
</array>
</plist>

If you just use a generic URL command (no custom codes required), then you would use standard URL format for authentication:

username:password@IPAddress/cmd

If you want to use custom codes, just insert two commands:

.AUTH 1 FORMAT, value = "Username"
.AUTH 2 FORMAT, value = "Password"

With an HTTP method, that will have the same affect as an authentication URL. You will need to type your username/password into the device when adding it.

Thank you! Both methods worked perfectly, but I ended up going with the custom codes since it was easier to program my system using them.

If anyone is interested in a power switching device that works with Roomie, Amazon currently has 3 ...

2013

Are Shutdown and reboot supposed to be part of the most recent XBMC update? I have not been able to get them to show up as options. Any help would be appreciated. :slight_smile:

It's in the older XBMC set. We've added it to the next library update for Frodo.

Thanks for adding this. When I tried it out, it only quit XBMC and didn't shutdown the computer. I checked my XBMC setup and the shutdown function is set to "shutdown". Was that the intent? Also, are there plans to add reboot?

Also, is there a pg down and up in the command set for frodo?

In the xbmc forum, they talk about channel up and down, but I do not see them in your implementation

+1 for page up/down commands. I have a large number of files and it takes a long time to scroll through them one at a time.

Hi,

I was hoping to have PVR/DVR support added to Roomie Remote for XBMC, the same way TVSHOWS and MOVIES currently is added. I would be more then willing to manually add the support myself.

Thanks

We're always happy to add commands. We don't immediately see a Page Up/Down in the XBMC JSON set:

wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=JSON-RPC_API/v6

Please submit any commands you'd like added to support@roomieremote.com.

Thank you.

Yes, I couldn't find one either, but they 'seem' to be used for going a page up or down in channel lists and items inplaying lists.



I 'emulated' one with a macro that does right arrow, and then 7 down arrows or up arrows. Works in most places they use it, but not all.

+1 for fiuring this out too!

2013

I just spent 10 minutes troubleshooting Roomie on my iPad. My iPhone was working perfectly, but the iPad wasn't. iCloud and wi-fi sync have always worked in the past, and I even re-synced with Dropbox for extra measure -- but to no avail.

Then it hit me: At a diner whose wi-fi was misbehaving, I'd recently disabled my iPad's wi-fi. And since it also has 3G, I'd forgotten to reenable the wi-fi when I got home. Most internet functions are not wi-fi specific, so I hadn't noticed.

Since Roomie's commands were red, I knew there was a problem, but it wasn't specified. In such cases, it would be quite helpful if a pop-up window informed us that wi-fi is simply disabled. :-)

Nice and use full idea

+1, this would be a quick and easy addition

.... or you could just look at your iPad's status bar to see if the wifi symbol is there.

Haha. I have done this a few times. I often turn my wifi off while at work to access sites and apps that are blocked by firewalls such as facebook and spotify. I get home and go to use my remote and have a few minutes of what the heck is going on before it hits me. This would make quick work of realizing the problem.

I had this happen last weekend.

Seeing the wifi icon is ok, but you do not equate the problem that occurs, ie, all IP stuff doesn't work, so you reload from Dropbox (which works), and still nothing.

Roomie knows that wifi is off and will therefore NOT be able to do almost ANY IP stuff. A quick little window saying that 'Warning! IP Functions disabled, Local LAN access turned off' would have saved me 3 hours and 2 forum posts and an email to support

Exactly.

There was a pithy reply, above, making light of my request. But Computers/smart devices are designed to make tasks easier for us. Many of us have very complicated lives (and setups!), and when my iPad was otherwise working perfectly, it simply didn't occur to me that the problem was something as simple as wi-fi being off.

I rarely turn it off -- so, on the one occasion on which I had, earlier in the day, it simply didn't occur to me, when Roomie stopped working, to consider wi-fi as the culprit.

Applications routinely inform users of many things. As you stated, philhu, Roomie knows that wi-fi is off. So, if Roomie requires wi-fi to operate, a simple reminder -- "Hey! Wi-fi's off!" -- is a reasonable prospect that would certainly spare many users this frustration. :-)

This has been added to the next release.

Thank you.

Yay!

Thats awesome!

2013

I have iPad 2 running 1.8 version roomie remote with IR and Home Theater Pack.

I ordered the L5 and followed the installation instructions. It does not show up when adding a device to a room. It does show up in the roomie main settings when adding Custom Devices. So I added my Dish as a custom. Programmed a couple of buttons. But it does not show up anywhere or in any rooms.

When I go to Living Room and Add a device: the L5 does not show up anywhere. It does run perfectly from its own software. It has done a firmware update. I have deleted my roomie and reinstalled which performed a full download and library update.

So what now???

Ok i kept uplugging and plugging back in. Now it shows up.

Selecting Dish Network - the test remote when setting up does nothing. The learning features will not learn any commands. When saved; it scolls the dish box on an off every 4 seconds but will not actually control dish with the remote.

So here is how i got it to work:

Do not have the L5 plugged in until you want to add a device. Hit Add Device and go to the Choose controller Screen. Then plug in the L5. It will appear on screen and you can add a device like Dish network. My TV, dish and blu ray are now working properly doing it this way. Yours may work differently as this may be a glitch with mine. This tells me that the L5 stores its own memory and is pathed from Roomie for commands.

We have recently discovered a bug where the L5 does not show up initially unless something else is also in the Add Device list. One workaround is to do exactly what you did above. Another workaround is to have any device in the compatibility list on your network (such as run iTunes on your Mac or PC.) We'll be fixing that in a future maintenance release.
Thank you.

Well hey, at the price point and features that roomie offers - - it's great. As far as glitches go, it is a very small one.

2013

Howdy. So apparently I bought the one model of Panasonic Viera that doesn't have a Wake On Lan feature... thereby making the wireless IP functionality cool but mostly useless for me.

This TV is connected via Ethernet balun to a homerun room. What I'm thinking of trying is directly connecting one of the triport connectors to one end of the balun and the emitter to the other end by the TV.

Is there any chance this will work?

It is possible to splice an emitter cable to a CAT5X cable and thereby enable long in-wall runs. One end would be the emitter then the CAT5X cable spliced to two strands then the former 3.5mm end of the emitter cable, then whatever else such as a Triport or the Flex itself.

Obviously, that CAT5X cable would then no longer provide Ethernet at that point (although, in principle for 10/100 you would only need 4 of the 8 wires plus then 2 for the emitter so you can technically run 2 emitters plus 10/100 Ethernet through a CAT5X).

Thanks for the reply... But I should have been more clear. The Balun has IR ports. So I wouldn't think I'd need to spice anything... I just need a cable that can plug into the triport and also into the balun.

I just wasn't certain if that was bound to fail because I don't understand IR transmission very well.

Sounds a bit like this cable:

astore.amazon.com/cyphersoft-20/ ... B004HZR2OG

2013

Great to see the release of version 1.8

Can I just ask, how does the new feature power state work?

If Power Tracking is turned on for a given device, each POWER TOGGLE command flips the active state for that device. The Tracking option is set on the Device screen for each device – note that the option is only presented if the device is in fact a toggle device.

Any usage of POWER TOGGLE to such a device from an Activity command list or a button on a Remote Design will flip the current state of the device. Note that using a Test Remote or Manual Remote does not change the current state of the device – using one of those is how you fix the "but I pushed the button on the front of the device" problem.

When sending commands from an Activity Command List, POWER TOGGLE is then only sent when appropriate. If Roomie knows a device is currently on and you hit System Off, the command goes through. If we know it's already off, it doesn't. The same applies vice versa to situations where the device is being turned on.

Thank you - I've set it up and it works a treat.

I really couldn't be more happier with your application, I've spent a lot of money over the years on different remotes, this app controls everything I have over IP and kicks everything else I've tried in to touch. Fantastic!

Could this feature be expanded to the discrete power on / off sequences?

My devices have a power on delay for the next command, so even though the device is already on, there is a delay when switching activities that have the same devices powered on.

I some devices that have a very slow startup, and I have a power on delay of 10000ms. In some cases this is not quite long enough, a few more choices to get out to 20000ms would be great as well.

2013

The search feature for the guide is a very useful thing. The thing is, when I search for a channel and I find it through the search, I can't change the channel from that screen. It only shows me the information about that channel and the broadcast time. Is there any way to get to that channel directly from the search guide option or that is the way it works?

Thanks,

Great question. I have the same issue.

Would you clarify exactly what the steps are here? For instance when you say "search for a channel", what does that mean exactly? Normally, one would search for a show or movie, etc. Given a show or movie, Roomie will display "Next On" information. Are you referring to the "Next On" display in that you'd like to tune that channel (even though almost always that program would not be on now)?

For example, I subscribe to Showtime ( a premium channel on Comcast). I would like to watch a particular episode of a series. I can search the Comcast Guide and view info about the episode, but I cannot select it. SO it's really not selecting a "channel" pre se, but rather an episode within a series. Now I have to cursor down the list, select Showtime, then Showtime Series, then the episode. There are at least three menus I have to naviagte through.

2013

Hi, I'm very interested in the roomie remote and IR control. I have one question before I purchase though. When you are adding IR devices, can you add multiple devices of the same type (e.g satellite receivers) in the same room to the same IR port on an iTach? I have a multi-room audio video matrix, so I would need the IR signals from the roomie to always be sent down one port, this is so the matrix will receive the signal as though it came from the room zone. The matrix will then take care of the IR routing.

Thanks in advance

John

Slight correction on that question :wink: It doesn't need to be muliple devices of the same type, just multiple devices in the same room on the same IR port of an iTach....



Thanks again

Yes, you can have any number of devices controlled by one port.

Great, thanks a lot. I do have one more question actually, is it possible to dynamically change the IP address of the device that the roomie remote connects to? For instance I have multiple XBMC servers and multiple satellite receivers that I would like to control with IP if possible. I don't want to add multiple devices of the same type, as that would confuse the kids :slight_smile: So if possible i would like to change IP address dynamically with a custom command. If not I will have to stick with controlling them with IR and let the matrix do the routing to the specific device.
Thanks again

John

2013

Now that 2.0 has been released, is there a way to get (and/or parse) feedback from a custom device? Had the API been updated?

I'm really interested in this feature too!! Any news about it?

The reality is that several features were mostly finished for 2.0 but just had to be cut very late in the process because of various timing issues mostly related to iOS 7 and the need to get 2.0 out ASAP. This is one of them. It's definitely coming.

It great that there's still features getting added. 2.0 is a big improvement over 1.x!

Is there a list of features you are working on that you can share?

+1 for custom feedback!

2013

Any chance of getting a HomeSeer module for Z-Wave built?

If not, or in the mean time, does anyone know the proper URLs for doing this? The results that pop up on Google (using executeHS.asp) doesn't seem to exist anymore, and I can't find anything else.

Thanks in advance for any help!

xxx.xxx.x.xxx:port/executeHS.asp ... SEventName

Works fine for me.

Make sure that the event name has no spaces

Use open URL silently in Safari

You need to set up the .asp page in the HomeSeer HTML folder

See this post:

board.homeseer.com/showthread.ph ... ost1033551

Thanks - I'm an idiot... I read that post, and promptly ignored the first part that said "copy this into a file in your HTML directory"... Done, and it works.

That being said - deeper integration into Roomie for two-way light information (see the current status of Z-Wave devices) would be really useful.

Any chance this is coming, or any chance of opening this up to allow the HomeSeer community (a big one) to develop it?

I agree homeseer integration would be awesome. Is this on the Roomie road map?

2013

Post:
Hi there, I finally have the serial driver tested and written for the Gefen 8x8 Matrix and seems to work really well (thanks to Roomie Support). I have one issue however I need to finish completing the rest of the commands for this driver as I had only inputted partial commands. Now when I go back to my RoomieCodes.Plist file in Dropbox, it opens up like a binary file. Part of it is gibbrish. Does Roomie encrypt the file in anyway when it's uploaded to the app?

How can get it back to text format so that I can modify it?

Thank you for the great support!

Post:
What happens there is that iOS and Mac OS X prefer to store that file in a binary XML format. This format can be read by pretty much anything on those operating systems, but for simplicity we keep everything in the DDK in text format. Once you import something like a RoomieCodes file into Roomie and then re-export it back for instance to Dropbox, if it was ever changed by Roomie, you may find that it has been converted from the plain text XML format into the preferred Mac OS X/iOS binary XML format. If you use tools like Xcode, you would never even notice the difference.

In any case, the only way back if you need it in text format because for instance you want to edit it on Windows is to change it back to text format which requires opening it in a dual format text editor like for instance BBEdit and then saving it.

Post:
I'm using a MAC so I'll use XCode. Thank you!

2012

**Hello,

Is there a way to rename remotes and change the custom images in my rooms?

I can see the strings in the plist files, but I am concerned that if I change the name it will affect the behavior of the remote.

I can also change the name of a saved custom remote, but it will not change the name of the ermote in my rooms.

Thanks!

**If you were to change the name of a Remote Design in the plist directly, it would just no longer match to your Activity. You would then need to select the Remote Design again.

**Thanks, this is what I found.

So, is there a way to rename a remote and change its image? some remotes do not have images.

Thanks!

**When you refer to remote images, do you mean the background image or images on specific buttons? Both of those can be changed using the standard user interface.

To rename a Remote Design you just tap the name of the Remote Design.

**Sorry, my request was not clear.

In the activities page, I want to change the logo at the left of the name of the list of standard remotes. For example, the remote called "Scientific Atlanta Cable" has no logo.

Also, I would like to change the name of Scientific Atlanta cable to Illico, as Scientific Atlanta has no meaning for my Familly, yhe box is branded Illico.

Also

**If you mean the diagnostic remote list that appears if you select "Show in Room" on a particular device, you can't change that name (without defining a custom device via the DDK). We would suggest defining an Activity would be a much better solution to the issue however. You can change the logo there as of Roomie 1.6.1. That is covered in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

2012

**I've just taken delivery of GlobalCache's iTach WF2IR box. I've installed Roomie on my iPad2. I've purchased the IR controller pack.

I thought I'd test the app + iTach on my XBox as that is definitely supported.

When I set up Roomie for XBox and test the remote, I can see the IR emitter flashing red, so the command is definitely getting to the iTach device, but I just can't power on/off or anything else the XBox.

Am I missing something?

**We have a FAQ for diagnosing IR issues like that:

Diagnostics

Note that the newest Xbox model can be challenging to find an emitter position. Some people have even resorted to opening the box and building the emitter into the box:

youtube.com/watch?v=3IYtsVtzK8U

Following the FAQ above, you can bypass the issue of course by using the blaster.

**Yeah I did read that faq before I posted here. Still not getting any signals. I will keep trying...

**You have to position the IR emitter directly over the 'Sync' button on the front of the Xbox. At least that's what I had to do with my Xbox 360 Slim.

One thing of note (and one I'll be posting a new topic about) is that, if I use the 'test remote' option when setting up the Xbox in Roomie, power on/off works fine, but if I add the power on/off command to an 'Activity', it works only very intermittently.

**Oh good, it isn't just me.

I have two Xbox 360 slims. Both behave quite well using an emitter placed on the sync button.

Power On/Power Off is definitely flaky. Like you, I can get the test remote to work reliably, but rarely seems to work in an activity. What DOES work reliably in an activity is the Power Toggle command, so I've been manually adding it to activities. That does cause some problems with System Off and switching activities, however.

**Whenever a command seems to have issues running in an Activity but works great in Test Remote, it means one and only one thing: You need more delay.

IR devices often get confused by multiple sequential IR commands and decide to just ignore commands that are too close together for them. Some devices are really bad at separating out commands. We default to 200ms as the delay between commands. Some devices need much more so you can change that value to be as high as you might need.

2012

**We have Sony Bravia TVs that do not respond to the provided IR codes ("All Sony TVs"), so I tried using an iTach device with Roomie to go through the learning procedure. It was going well, but about halfway through Roomie loops back around to the first code. In other words, it learns about the first 25 but not the second 25 codes (once it gets to something like code 26 the learning process jumps back to code 1).

Unfortunately some of the more important commands (like volume and mute) cannot be learned because the learning process never reaches those commands. I discovered that I can manually enter codes named "VOLUME UP" and "VOLUME DOWN" and when Roomie learns those the volume control works, but I don't know the name for mute ("MUTE" does not work) or the other commands that are never reached.

Is there a bug in Roomie, or is there a way to program the missing commands that I have just not discovered?

Thank you!

**First, we would strongly suggest reviewing step 5 in the IR Diagnosis FAQ:

Diagnostics

That specifically discusses Sony TVs as the classic case needing a higher retransmit count. It's extremely likely just setting that to 2-4 will resolve the issue.

While we'd love to figure out how you looped around learning codes, it's probably simpler just to forget it and use the built-in codes that work with all models of Sony TVs.

**Thanks for the reply -- I'll try the default Sony template with the higher retransmit count and see if it works. However it's interesting that the codes that have been successfully learned (before the codes loop around) do work with the transmit count set to one. If the Sony TVs require a higher transmit count then I would think the learned codes would not work either without increasing the transmit count.

I'll try the template again, though, and let you know what happens. Thanks.

**That works because you're effectively "learning" a doubled code. If you always learn doubled codes, you end up with little annoyances like volume levels going up by 2 instead of 1 when you hit volume up. That's one reason the codes by default are the minimum length. So it's much better to use the built-in codes whenever possible as we've already accounted for things like that.

**I tried setting the transmit count to two for the default Sony remote as you suggested and it worked! Thanks for the help and for the explanation!

2012

**I have my WF2IR set up and working on the local net work.
I have set up a URL for the WF2IR.
When I go to XXXXXX.net:80 the setup page for the WF2IR appears.
How do I get Roomie to send the commands to the URL?
If I add a device enter the url and port --> then Global Cache the WF2IR is not a choice, just Contact Closure and Gc-100 Contact Closure.
Same thing if I try to edit a device.

**Well a lot of this depends on your network. If the router is set to forward port 80 to the gc-100 then it'll do that. You cannot connect to everything through the same external port. What it sounds like you want is a VPN instead. Most mid to high end routers support this, as do all android/iOS devices

**The WF2IR is the only thing on port 80. I don't even have a GC-100 or Contact closure they just show up in the choices. I can login with a web browser but Roomie can't find it.

**Port 80 is just the user front end for the iTach. The iTach operates for infrared on port 4998. So basically you would need to edit Roomie.plist directly to enable this. Change 192.168.1.50 or whatever the address is of your iTach to "myitach.myhome.com" or whatever your DNS name is for your home address (dyndns.org is typically used for this purpose to eliminate the issue of changing IP addresses). That would be the only edit you'd need to make. Then sync that change back from your Dropbox.

Now, the problem with that whole scheme is that there is no security. Even if you had a password, in the context of the whole Internet, that's very weak. You really want to setup a VPN. If you do setup a proper VPN, you don't need to make any changes to your Roomie.plist file. There are many VPN systems that work with the built-in VPN software in iOS either software that runs on a server or on a router. We don't specifically suggest any, but given a properly setup VPN, it is both secure and requires no special Roomie configuration to control for instance an iTach or anything else from Roomie over the broader Internet. While the hack in our first paragraph will also work, we strongly recommend the VPN method.

**I been tied up with work for quite some time, and haven't had a chance to work on this. Yesterday a I got some time to see what's involved. Setting up the VPN server is out of my tech skill set, so I downloaded VPN Server Configurator for Mac and VPN Client Configurator for Mac from http://www.greenworldsoft.com and ran the software. On my Airport Utility under Network clicked network Options clicked Enable NAT Port Mapping Protocol and set Enable default host at the network IP of my new VPN server.

All seems to work fine

Thanks,

2012

This seems to be a common problem. I am getting the IR emitter to handle this. Is it recommended to use IR to power on the device and IP for everything else, or is it better to use IR for everything? Is there a rule of thumb? I assume for devices with feedback, the former is better. Are there cases where an all-IR approach beats a hybrid IP/IR one? Right now, I am facing this with directv receiver, panasonic tv, but there may be others.

Thanks.

I have the same problem powering both the pannisonic tv and Sony bluray. Also using the same solution ( great minds and all that). Version 1.4 should fix the tv issue with ip control for the tv power function as for the rest I'm happy using a mixture of ir and ip but running out of ir emitters may have to invest in a blaster or two.

As a general rule for devices that don't support power via IP but do have IP control, the best solution is to use an IP2IR/WF2IR for power and then IP for everything else. Just add the device twice once for each control method.

A surprising number of people have found that HDMI CEC has also been able to work for them, but that can be a real throw of the dice, so it's difficult for us to recommend that strongly. The definitive solution is to use IR as the backbone. IP control (or serial) becomes a necessity for things like keyboard control and any form of feedback. While we'd love those manufacturers who haven't adopted power over IP yet to do so, since most people get an IP2IR/WF2IR to power other parts of their system anyway, it's usually not a problem.

The DirecTV receiver is a good example of something where you definitely want to use IP control as we have all kinds of integration with that down to show/episode names, channels, etc that will never happen via IR.

2012

Can the Startech RS-232/422/485 Serial over IP Ethernet Device Server (StarTech ID: NETRS2321E) be used in place of the Itach? It is less expensive.
Regards

Maybe you're in another country. Here in the US, that device is more to much more expensive. The iTach line is both less expensive and significantly superior to the alternatives that we are aware of.

In the case of third-party serial adapters like that, there is a chance they will work as sometimes they just open a port which means you can try adding a device via Manual IP and acting as if it is an IP device instead of a serial device. This is why we let you select the serial command set when applicable on adding IP devices. However, we have not tested that device specifically, and if only for the Multiple Connections feature of the iTach plus the fact that it is cheaper and that we support it, we would strongly advise against just random experimentation with such products.

There are cases where serial is a huge aspect of a particular job for instance if you need 16 serial port servers and such where we do advise using different products, but for the general case like this, the IP2SL and WF2SL are definitely your best bet.

2012

I'm starting to setup my roomie remote configuration and have hit some stumbling blocks.
I have my receiver and tv setup and working and now I'm trying to ad Plex as a device and I'm not sure what settings to enter for the ip/port. Does the control have to go through the Plex Media Server or does it communicate directly to the Plex Media Centre? My Media Server IP is 192.168.1.5 (MAC Mini) and my Media Centre IP is 192.168.1.6 (Windows 7 PC). I can use the Plex iOS app to control Plex so I know everything is fine on the Plex end. Any help here would be much appreciated.

Hi,

When I added my Plex clients they were auto discovered but to set up manually you will need to put in the ip of the Media Centre. I did a bonjour scan of my network and all of my plex clients are listening on port 3000 and 9090. I think that it will be 3000 as my Roomie Client is saying that it is using the XBMC HTTP API.

Give it a go and let me know how you get on.

Plex is working now. Port 3000 did the trick.
Now I just need to figure out how to get my Panasonic Plasma to switch inputs and channels through rs232. Power and screen format work but nothing else.

IP Addresses mentioned: 192.168.1.5, 192.168.1.6Ports mentioned: 3000

2012

My LAN and WLAN are on separate subnets, so the auto discovery stuff does not work. How can I add an IP2IR device manually? I bought the IR pack.

Thanks.

The wireless router must be configured to pass multicast traffic across the subnets if you have it configured that way. In general, in a normal configuration, your router may have options named like "Enable UPnP" or "Enable Multicast Traffic". Those need to be turned on.

Thanks for the response. Your solution is not possible for me - I cannot route upnp, etc, between the subnets. It would be nice if you could add manual support for IP2IR sometime in the future.

In the meantime, I did find a solution which I post here in case someone else finds it useful. I temporarily put my IP2IR on my wifi network. This allowed Roomie to discover the device. I added and set up the device in Roomie. Then I saved the configuration to a plist file and edited it to change the IP address of the IP2IR device to its permanent address on the LAN. Then I moved the IP2IR back to the LAN and installed the new plist file and the IP2IR was still recognized.

2012

I'm trying to set up my Playstation 2. The PS2 looks to be supported under Game Systems -> Sony. However, none of the commands work. Are only certain models supported? Mine is one of the more top-loading ones, SCPH-79001.

The solution to this is to use the PS logo button. The default Power On, and Power Off codes don't work. The PS logo button will either power on, reset, or power off the device, depending on how long it's held. So, there are various ways to work around this.

The PS Logo button will power on the system, but only if you set the device repeat to >1.

To power off the device, you have to create an activity and a macro which holds the PS button for 3000-5000ms.

If you don't want to set the device repeat to >1, the PS logo button won't power it on. Instead, you have to create a macro which holds it for some period of time (but not as long as when powering off, or resetting it).

The ramifications of this are if you are using the PS2 as the Power Device for an activity (i.e., it automatically powers on, and then powers off when entering/leaving the activity), you'll need to delete the startup and shutdown commands which are automatically inserted, and replace them with your macros.

I can't vouch for any of the other commands, as the power ones are all that I'm interested in.

2012

I have one of the new U-verse wireless cable boxes. It appears to be a Cisco box but it responds to the standard Motorola IR remote. I tried using a blaster and (surprise) it knocks the box off line (kills the wireless connection). So I tried an emitter and I can’t get the box to respond. I’ve moved the emitter around the front of the device and set it several inches back from the box. I’m thinking I just may not have the correct code set selected. Do you know which Motorola device I should select?

The command set for U-verse is usually Cisco: IPN and VPN (IPTV) Series: Set Top Box. Though it's likely they use multiple boxes in the field, so there may be others that are appropriate for that.

Yes - that command set is working - thank you very much.
I do need to work on the remote layout a bit and the box is acting a bit crazy after it gets commands but I'll work through it.

2012

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2012

Since im moving from a harmony implementation to Roomie, I've read that I can use the PS3 adaptor i already have. I assume I just need an adaptor cable to connect them (e.g 3.5mm itach connector to 2.5mm logitech PS3 adaptor)? Or am i missing something bigger. Also, the FAQs state the control is better with the Schwarz adaptor - what problems should i expect?

THanks Mike

The Schwartz adapter is generally the top of the line solution:

store.roomieremote.com/ps3ir-1000

That consolidates commands and makes things generally more robust. However, that does not mean the cheaper Schwartz or the Harmony adapter don't do the job. It may just sometimes require you to do it twice or things like that.

A 2.5 - 3.5mm adapter such as this one is something we have tested successfully with other products when used with the iTach:

amazon.com/gp/product/B003UL ... hersoft-20

However, we haven't tested that explicitly as an input into the Harmony PS3 adapter. We think it is likely that would work.

An additional review of these topics is here:

Roomie Remote Support

2012

I would like to add the IR codes for a Sonance Navigator Harbor. Do I need an Apple computer to do this? I read the instructions on how to learn the IR codes and have done so with iLearn. I'm a little confused as to how I can get the codes loaded on to my iPhone. I also can't seem to find the iTunes file sharing directory to locate the .plist file.

Found the .plist files after loading dropbox on my computer but there is no RoomieCodes.plist file

After learning codes or finding codes on the net, they can be inserted into Roomie using the instructions here in the DDK:


Roomie Remote Support

2012

The subject line pretty much says it all... I'm looking for IR support for a Port-ta / ClearMax (?) 5 to 1 HDMI Switcher purchased from Amazon ... One of their most popular high rated 5 to 1 switchers... Some confusion as to the actual mfg. It's listed as ClearMax however google seems to indicate Port-ta so not sure.

Port-ta / ClearMax (?) 5 to 1 HDMI Switcher

Item model number: PET0501S

Link: amazon.com/HDMI-Switch-Switc ... 909&sr=8-1

Link to port-ta site: port-ta.com/products/19.html

Switchers usually have so few commands that they're trivial to learn. We have instructions on that here:
Roomie Remote Support

2012

Question: I'm having trouble getting the XBMC Roomie controls to work with this setup

I've tried the Media and the JSON options and both do not work

The port and IP settings are correct as I can access and control it from a webpage

I can also control it from a 3rd Party XBMC controller as well

Any idea what might be causing this issue?

Thanks,

Staff response: This is fixed in the new library update that just went live.

2012

For some reason the stop button does not work for by Sky HD box. My box is the samsung if that makes any difference.

HI milez, I too have the same issue. I have just received my H/W in the post and all excitedly set it up only to find that the STOP function does not work!

I have 2 x DRX890-Z boxes and it is the same with both of them. I have tried different IP2IR boxes, as well as ir emmiters and different Sky+ HD boxes but still no stop button.

When I press any other command button the ir receive LED on the sky box lights up saying it has accepted the command but nothing happens when STOP is pressed (though the LED's on both the IP2IR and the emmiter blink).

Is this the same with you?

We have quite a few command sets for Sky. Exactly which set are you guys using and exactly which model is the first poster using? Also, which country are you both sourcing those models in? Have you tried all of the Sky command sets?

Pace: DV200 Sky Decoder: Satellite
Pace: My Sky HD: Satellite
Sky: All Models: Satellite
Sky Italia: My Sky HD: Satellite
Sky: HD Models Group 2: Satellite
Sky: HD+ Germany: Satellite
Sky: HD Models: Satellite

Hi, sorry for the late reply (been a long weekend off!), I am UK and have tried

Sky: All Models: Satellite

Sky: HD Models Group 2: Satellite

Sky: HD Models: Satellite

I only seem to get any response while using the last one on the list, all seems to work apart from the stop command.

If you use iLearn to learn a new version of the STOP command, we can replace the code in the main library with the new code. Just paste the new code into a reply here or send it to support@roomieremote.com. We provide instructions on learning codes here:

Roomie Remote Support

I'm new to this - my Sky+ is networked, and my iPad Sky+ App works perfectly, but I don't know how to get Roomie to 'see' my Sky+ box.

As of yet, It won't. Roomie doesn't currently support control of the Sky+ boxes via the Network (and roomie won't see/detect them, as the sky boxes do not support auto discovery). Until they have finished (or even started) coding for network control the only way (and the way in which I use them) is via the infra red control pack and IR emmiter with the iTach IP 2 IR adapters.

Hope this clears things up a little.

Sorry for the delay, I have just emailed over the ir code string for the stop button.

I have the same problem, could you share me the fix guide?

Thanks,

Lauren of www.kekacase.com technology

The code we were sent October 24 was integrated into the Sky: HD Models: Satellite command set.

Note also that today's Roomie 1.7 release integrates Infrared Learning into the app so you no longer need to perform lots of complex activities just to learn a code.

2012

Am having the same issue on my iPhone 4 (5.0.1), I guess due to the slow internet connections I have here. Tried closing the app and restarting it, it's the same issue. Deleted it and now installing it again. Let's see. Will keep you posted.

Had this same exact issue and posted on it here (see "IR device "Choose Type" window non responsive" ) What finally worked for me was to go to the compatibality tab when your logged into roomie. Theres a little white square at the top of that window that seems to "pulse". I tapped that and a few seconds later.... the download worked. Now Im trying to get the in app cable guide to interface with the remote. I can view it, but doesnt seem to be interactive with the cable box remote

Just for those casually reading this thread, this issue was addressed in the other thread. It's due to poor network connections and generally resolves itself in minutes/hours. Restarting Roomie or your iOS device and checking your WiFi connection and router connection are the best methods to make sure the device library download completes successfully. It's not related to anything else you might be doing in Roomie, it's just network connectivity. Amazon and Apple have been aware of these issues that sometimes cause delays with bad network connections for many months now (actually much longer), but still no resolution.

We will likely adopt a slightly different method for distributing library updates in a future release to work around it for those still experiencing it.

Thanks jaydebeers and support staff for the heads up. Appreciate this.

Hi, I DID get this to work no problems with an iphone 4 (same network - 25mbps down/10 mbps up). The ipod just sits and spins at startup on the "Updating device library" - cant get past that to do any settings/changes. I deleted the app, restarted the ios device, reinstalled - several times to same effect. If there is any way to do some debugging on this - would appreciate it. thanks.

Same issue as jegan. Works fine on ipad3, iphone4. But hangs on installing on new iphone5. Progress bar fills up completely and after that it just hangs (now more than an hour). Multiple times uninstall, reinstall. same problem. I cannot stop the program either because in this stage it's not even shown in the "task manager". My internet is working fine though... some assistance would be nice... Arnoud

If the issue is caused by a network routing issue between you and Amazon (where our servers are run), then there is nothing you can do until it resolves itself which would likely be fairly rapidly as that would imply a fairly major routing issue. The same tips from the prior post in this thread still apply. We've never seen or heard of this lasting more than a day or so and is related either to your device's network connectivity or your local site experiencing a routing issue.

Hi thanks for the fast reply. Unfortunately i think it's really the iphone 5.

The reason being:

uninstalled roomie on...

2012

I have about 10 devices on which I need to deploy my settings. Each time I make a change, I have to connect to iTunes to deploy or manually touch each device. Is there a better way to 'sync' the config?

Have you setup and used Dropbox? Works great for syncing between devices

Dropbox is significantly simpler than the iTunes method. With Dropbox you just hit the button on each device and you're done. Dropbox is free. Just establish an account at www.dropbox.com, tell Roomie about it with the Link button, and then hit Backup to Dropbox. On the other devices, link them as well and then hit Restore from Dropbox. After the first time, you don't need the link steps.

Tried Dropbox - works great. Thanks! Some sort of automatic push of the config to other devices on the account would be even better, but I'm not sure how feasible that would be. Any thoughts?

Hi

This product is amazing. We are doing an upgrade of our home theater system. My AV guy said this was the way to go. He was right - Roomie is fantastic. This is top flight stuff.

Found the forum - and I have just done the Dropbox method for transferring settings from my iPad (the originals that the AV tech set up) to my iPhone. I have a couple questions.

Another topic mentioned some difficulties in the use of different iOS devices during the same TV "session". I believe that means if I sit down with one device I should "drive" with that device till I power off?

I want to transfer this configuration to another iPhone and iPad. However, the two devices are under a different Apple ID. The set up is complex. It's not a simple manual transfer.

Is there some way to get it to their dropbox account?

That's one of the advantages of using Dropbox. You can just share the same Dropbox account regardless of how many Apple IDs you use. If they are devices for different people and you want your own Dropbox separately, just link Roomie to its own Dropbox account named 'CHV Roomie' for instance on each device.

OK - that is great to hear. I figured there was a way.

Next question. Let's say existing iPod and iPad are on Dropbox A (mine). When I hit the "link to Dropbox" on each, it automatically connects to A. Other user has a Dropbox B. Proposed idea is to have a "Rommie" Dropbox (C).

I have only set up one Dropbox on my devices (A). If I set up Dropbox C, when I hit link, will it give me an option to select Dropbox A or C? Or, do I need to create C, point all devices at C. Sync. Then, redirect the devices back to Dropboxes A nd B?

It depends on whether you're using the Dropbox app or website. In either case it's easy to have a Dropbox C.

I have the app installed on both of my iOS devices. I don't know what the app looks like with multiple dropbox accounts - I guess I will find out shortly. I am guessing as long as "dropbox C" is active all will be good.

My iPad and iPod both are connected to the AV system and control it....

2012

Question: Hi,

I have been using MCE controller to listen for commands specifically to open the Netflix app in WMC (command already built into MCE Controller) as well as a custom tile for Media Browser pointing to my movies and tv series.

For example when the command MediaBrowserMovies is sent via telnet to MCE controller then WMC will open directly to my Media Browser Movies tile.

I would like to expand this to Roomie - however there is no way for me to add custom commands sent from Roomie ...

Staff response: I know, this is an old thread, but The title of the thread is exactly what I want to achieve: send custom commands to my HTPC using simple control. I have already configured MCE controller to work within Simple Control, and I can use the generic remote provided and it works. But I would also like to be able to send custom commands (single letters or alt-x for example).

The links above seemed to point to the solution, but they do not work anymore...

2012

Question: Hi , I need the code for my Bell Expressvue
Satellite PVR HD . I cannot control my Bell
PVR BOX.
Thanks,
Steve

Staff response: Hi,

Good news for Bell ExpressVu PVR code issue !!!
Roomie apps accept only the first 4 Remote Address from your Satellite PVR...
By default, most of Satellite PVR Receiver have a range of 1 to 16 remote address number.

Here is the solution:
Take your Satellite receiver remote control (DISH or Bell) and then,

1. Press the SYSTEM INFO on the Satellite receiver and note the Remote Address number
2. Press and hold the SAT Mode button until all Mode buttons light up
3. Enter a number between 1 to 4 ONLY, keep pointing the remote towards
the receiver
4. Press Pound # (SAT mode button will flash)
5. Press RECORD
6. Press SELECT
......there you go.
7. Use the same Remote Address on the Roomie apps.
device -> Satellite -> Bell -> All Models IP Address 1 to 4

Make sure the Primary Remote Address has been changed on you're receiver.

Thanks,
Steve

2012

Hi,

I'm a noob trying the base Roomie before going whole hog and purchasing the entire Roomie suite plus several iTachs.

Right now I'm trying to configure Roomie to work a Pioneer VSX-60 receiver and a Plex media server (PMS). I'm a bit confused because the VSX-60 can see the PMS and control it for music using either a TV and the standard remote or Pioneer's iControlAV app. The PMS can make itself known either through DLNA or through a Plex client. I'm not sure which method the receiver uses.

So my question is, when I set Plex as the second device on my Roomie, exactly what is Roomie trying to do? Is it accessing the PMS through my receiver, through DLNA, or as a Plex client in its own right? And, no matter how Roomie accesses the PMS, how can I integrate control of the receiver with control of Plex?

If you add a Plex client through the Auto-Discovery process in Roomie, Roomie is talking directly to Plex. The connection between Roomie and a receiver and Roomie and your Plex have nothing intrinsically to do with one another.

Thanks. That clears that up.

But if I'm accessing the PMS via Roomie, how do I tell it where to play the selection? My receiver, TV, iPad, and even Blu-Ray can all access Plex by themselves. Now that Roomie's doing it, how do I get it to play music through the receiver, videos on the TV (with sound EITHER through the receiver or TV), and pictures on the TV?

(Bear in mind that I'm still using the base version of Roomie, so probably I can only use Plex with either the receiver or the TV but not both.)

Those are details that are outside of Roomie. How to control Plex to play something or how to setup your receiver to play from your Plex are specific to your system setup and don't relate to the method by which Plex or your receiver are controlled.

I understand your point, but I'm still confused.

Plex uses a client-server architecture. I've installed and administered the server on both Macs and NAS drives. I've used clients on Macs, iPads, and TV's (with Samsung TV's, one has the choice of DLNA or using a Plex app.)

But all these clients also have the ability to render the media that Plex streams between from the server to the client. For example, the Plex client app for IOS has no volume controls because it plays on the IOS device and uses the device's physical controls. If you use it with Airplay, either the IOS device's volume control or the other device's (e.g., an Airplay-capable AV receiver) volume control will work.

Moreover, the Plex server can serve multiple clients simultaneously. For example, the same server can be streaming jazz to the dining room and hip-hop to the family room. So control of Plex is client-specific.

Roomie, on the other hand, is solely an intermediary. It's neither a client nor a server. Just as a TV remote control cannot itself display a video, Roomie cannot display videos, play music, etc. by itself. The free Plex app for IOS is excellent, so one hardl...

2012

Hi,
I've got an iTach IP2IR . Roomie seems set up to assume a single display unless I'm mistaken. Perhaps someone can help me figure out what I should set up.

My setup is fairly simple:
Sources:
Sky HD (satellite PVR)
Freeview (TV antenna)
Blu-ray

Displays:
Samsung TV
Epson Projector

All of the sources (except freeview) connect to a Yamaha receiver and the output from that is split to the 2 displays.

So, I've created activities for all the sources (x2 for projector), but none of my devices are suitable for the "Power for All Activities" option as if I want to watch a blu-ray on the projector, I need the BD, Receiver and projector on. But if I want to watch Sky on the TV without the receiver, I just need Sky and TV on (receiver has standby passthrough)

OK, so none of my devices have Power for All Activities on, but for each activity it seems like you can only specify 1 power device.
I tried adding in power commands individually (both start and stop), but then it doesn't seem to remember what's on and what's off, so switching from Watch Sky (Sky + TV) to Watch Freeview (just TV) switches off the TV and switches it on again!

Also, if you specify a receiver for the volume in an activity, shouldn't it make sure it is powered on?

I seem to be approaching it from a Harmony angle and maybe that's wrong.....

TIA,
pingu.

We have discrete codes in the main library for on/off for both Epson Projectors and Samsung TVs, so that should make remembering what is on not relevant if configured correctly.

There are two basic ways to configure that depending on how you'd prefer to use it. Either (1) configure everything in one room and make sure to enter all of the power commands for the projector and TV on each activity [do not use power for all activities for those two], or (2) use 2 rooms to represent the two different room types you're creating. Option 1 is generally simpler especially since you have devices with discrete codes, but option 2 will automate the commands much more. Note that you would never use the "Power Device" setting for a TV or Projector under any normal configuration and most definitely would not use that in a dual monitor room. Power Device is for devices like a Blu-ray player that apply to a specific activity only, not room-wide devices like a TV or Projector or Receiver, etc.

Receivers are typically marked as Power for All Activities. It would not be correct to "make sure it's on" as the user may not want that (many scenarios there such as setting different zone volumes, or HDMI passthrough). That's one reason there's an explicit setting for that.

Hi,

Thanks for the quick reply and good ideas. So, in option (1), if I have 2 activities Watch Blu-ray and Project Blu-ray with the BD player as the power device for both - would switching between them turn off the BD player and then turn it on again or does Roomie remember the state and not bother to turn it off?

Al...

2012

Have you tried restarting your iOS device with the power button? We have not had other reports like this. Does anything work when in this problem mode? Do you have any IP devices that work for instance whereas other devices do not?

Yes, I have restarted my iOS device via the power button. I will check the IP next time this occurs. Maybe I will just go ahead and shut the IR receiver down as well as my iOS device; then power up the receiver; then my iPad and see if maybe that resolves my issue.

I've had this same issue on direct IP Directv attached devices (new guide?). Network icon shows network busy and no commands work until I kill and restart Roomie. Didn't have the issue untill the last update. Normally I don't report things like this because it happens so frequently that I figure the Roomie techs must be aware of it and are planning a fix. (maybe reason others haven't reported it? Also?)

The last poster's issue is addressed in 1.5. That issue was specific to HTTP based devices like DirecTV. It's not clear whether that's related to the original poster's setup.

Happening to me, too. I'm a new user, so I don't have the same frame of reference as posters above. Have been fighting configurations issues and finally got it working when everything just stopped responding. Specifically, the app appears to be operating normally, but all commands show up in red and none of my IP or IR devices respond.

I see this issue as well, have only IR devices. It seems intermittently but only after a certain period of inactivity or the I switch to another app on the ipad or after one or many sleep/wake up cycles...

When will version 1.5 be available??? I have the same issue with my DirecTV. My IR devices work fine.

1.5 is going out very soon, possibly as soon as today. Note that it can take quite a while though to go through the process – a normal timeframe would be 7-14 days.

We believe there are 2 unrelated issues in this thread and that they simply sounded similar so posts came here. Meanwhile, beta testers are reporting neither of these issues in 1.5 so please let us know if you see any issues with 1.5.

I'll be looking for the update... BTW, even though I checked the box to be notified of replies to this thread, I did not receive notification of your response... not sure why? I have checked my email settings in my account to confirm they are correct. Despite this hiccup, I love the product!!!!

I am running IR through most, but IP through my denon receiver. Everything was working perfect. Next day, nothing was working. I rebooted the wf2ir and reconnected and got the IR working again. But roomie will not find my IP receiver. It has an address, in fact I can even control it through my browser on the same freaking iOS device, but Roomie won't find the new IP address and can't control it.

Kenhoeve, I share your frustration and found myself ready to pitch the whole thing, but I think we have to acknowledge we are on the "bleeding" edge o...

2012

The Logitech PS3 Bluetooth adaptor is listed in the supported devices. However, there doesn't seem to be any power codes for it. Are these planned? Am I missing something? I'm well aware that powering off the PS3 is a little weird and requires a sequence of commands to basically walk through the shutdown dialog, but as it is, I don't even have the option of trying to make my own macro as there's no power-related commands at all.

Playstation 3 devices are "powered on" by the Playstation button. There is no Power button. So the button arrangement in that command set is appropriate for the device.

Ah, now I see the PS button on the image of the actual PS3 remote. But there's nothing equivalent on the virtual remote.

On the Virtual Remote, the button is called "PLAYSTATION".

I'm not deliberately trying to be obtuse--I'm running the most recent version of the app on iOS6 on an iPhone 4S and it's simply not there. Here's screen captures:

dangthill.fastmail.fm/ps3_1.png
dangthill.fastmail.fm/ps3_2.png
dangthill.fastmail.fm/ps3_3.png

You're correct. On that model it's called "START". There on your 3rd image.

Ah. I hope you'll forgive me for missing that; I assumed it part of the myriad bluray commands that are rarely used. Any possibility of getting it replaced with a PS logo a la the Guide button image on the Xbox 360 virtual remote? :slight_smile:

Thank you for your patience and astoundingly quick answer.

The Remote Design is editable for any Activity. You can just add a button in the Top Bar with the PS3 image sending the START command.

Yeah, I figured I'd be doing custom images eventually, since I wanted to add some activities for the Nintendo GameCube and the Playstation 2.

2012

Hi,

Can you please support the

Pace DCR7111 upc media box remote? (It's the new default for UPC in the Netherlands)

I tried to find a compatible remote. The Philips DCR-8111 sort of works but there is a problem with parity bits or something. So repeating a command doesn't work. pressing 2 times "1" or 2 times channel up doesn't work.

Then next blog entry explains but i hope someone can help me as they are using different hardware (no iTach). http://blog.hekkers.net/2012/05/06/ir-trouble-with-the-pace-dcr7111-upc-mediabox/

thnx,

Arnoud

Those are called Toggle codes. Does that happen with every command or just repeat commands like Channel up/down?

We can certainly paste those codes into the set and send it to you from support but they only have channel up/down on that link.

Hi thanx for the fast reply,

it looks like it's happening with all commands.

For example It happens also when pressing the numbers multiple times. For example if you want to select channel 11 with the num pad by pressing 2 times 1. The second 1 is ignored no matter how often you press it.

Also with the navigation pad.

Hopefully you can support the Pace DCR7111 upc media box.

What would be the other route? I'm not sure if i can learn these toggle codes of the remote to the iTach. Happy if i'm wrong :slight_smile:

best,

Arnoud

Learning them can be somewhat complex. Basically, you learn every button twice. The Roomie DDK shows how to then combine the two codes into a toggle code. We do not have toggle codes for that device nor did we find them quickly just now in a Google search, so learning may be the best option. If you can learn the two codes for each button, support can help you assemble them into the appropriate format.

2012

Just tried to go back and edit the RoomieCodes.plist file I meticulously created for two unsupported devices and discovered Roomie overwrote it with jumbled information which is formatted completely different. It says nothing in the documentation about this happening. It looks like I now need to go through the entire IR teaching process again for those two remotes?

First: do not delete that file. It's actually not corrupt, it's just fine. What happens is that iOS translates the file into a Mac OS X binary plist format once it digests the file. This can seem like the file is corrupt but actually it is just compressed in a sense. Getting it back to a text format would indeed however require a Mac OS X tool like Xcode as far as we are aware. To avoid this, keep the text version of your RoomieCodes file. To Roomie, both formats are equivalent and both are accepted. The binary version can be opened with BBEdit, Xcode, and pretty much anything else but probably only on Mac OS X.

Thanks for the reply. It's a shame that I lost all of the codes I entered for two devices. Perhaps in a future update, you could add support for a separate "Add these devices" file which Roomie treats as read-only and merges with the existing RoomieCodes binary file after conversion. Just a suggestion.

If you don't have the right tool and would like the file back in the original text format, go ahead and send your RoomieCodes file to support and we'll return it back to you in the original format. Thank you.

2012

I have looked through the forum but can nit find my answer. I am redoing my entire setup now that I have had a while to play around with this product. It is really slick! I love the fact i can run my hdmi switcher via Wifi. My problem is new and did not happen when i originally set up my rooms. My problem is as follows: I set up all the devices in the room as a reference. I then go to create an activity for that device. When I click on the "edit" and go to "Watch Directv" and click "add commands", a screen opens to add commands but nothing is the pop up screen for me to choose. I seem to remember all of my devices to select commands were in that pop up screen when i originally set up to get a feeling of the remote.

I am sure I am doing something wrong or need to toggle something. A little help would be greatly appreciated.

There is a problem here, and we were able to reproduce it briefly and then it disappeared. So we believe this is intermittent and should be rare. Which version of iOS are you using? We don't necessarily think that's related, but it might impact it. First we'd try the basics. Restart your iOS device. If that does nothing to resolve it, delete the Roomie app and re-download from the App Store and then sync your configuration back via Dropbox.

We have added protection to the next release to make sure this doesn't happen again, but we do believe you should be able to get it working again as for us at the moment it is not reproducible.

I had the same problem. If you press the green plus sign (+) nothing is listed, however if you tap the text 'add command' to the right of the plus sign your devices are listed.

Ditto montanamike. So far tapping 'add command' always works for me.

2012

Hi. I have a Denon 3313 with all 3 Zones powering different speaker zones in my house. I setup my remote so that i can turn on/off Zones 2/3 and turn volume up/down in zones 2/3. I can see the volume level of Zone 1 on my remote screen but it does not show the volume level of Zone 2 or 3. is there a way to add the volume display for Zones 2 and 3?

Thanks!

Are you saying that you added all 3 zones to 1 room? That would require creating separate activities. The normal way to configure that would be 3 separate rooms (logically 1 Roomie room per Denon zone). Each of those rooms then contains a Denon device with the appropriate zone selected. That device will then show the volume for that zone.

I have an activity called "Listen to Pandora" and the remote that pops up for that activity is my Denon remote. On that remote, i have a rocker to turn zone 2 on/off and a rocker to turn zone 3 on/off. Same for volume. My question is if on that remote i can get feedback on what the volume level is set at for Zones 2 and 3. Thanks!

You would need to create a separate room ideally for that, or you could also do it by adding a separate activity if you add the zones to the same room.

2012

Frequent connectivity loss is most likely a local network problem which is somewhat common in Wi-Fi networks.

However, we would also note that the label "Searching" in the Add Device panel in Roomie should not be confused with a network connectivity indicator. The WF2IR only broadcasts every 45 seconds or so. So within a 45 second window, a "Searching" label in Roomie on a WF2IR would be meaningless.

Commands not being received however indicates a larger network connectivity issue. We recommend first upgrading to 1.5 to see if the problem still occurs and if so there may be a Wi-Fi signal issue.

Thank you for your response. I have investigated further and the problem seems to be in the way the app works on an iPad. For example, during the iTach's unresponsive times, where I can still send commands to the IP equipment but not the WF2IR, I can go to the "Add a Device" function in Roomie, and no equipment gets found or listed. At other times the equipment shows up, but not the ITach. HOWEVER, if I turn the wifi on the iPad off and then on again, and repeat the add device process, ALL the equipment, including the iTach, show up immediately.

While cycling the iPad's wifi remedies the problem, the iPad never loses its connection to the router or internet during the times it cannot find the equipment or iTach using the Roomie application. The connectivity difficulty is isolated to Roomie not finding the equipment or iTach.

Is there a known way to fix or improve this by router band restriction or some other remedy you may be aware of so that Roomie can see the devices on the network as reliably as Safari can reach a URL without having to cycle the iPad's wifi?

I'm having very similar behavior with IP2IR and Roomie 1.5. Of note, it didn't seem to be an issue with prior versions of Roomie. Nothing else in my configuration has changed.

We're not yet hearing/seeing any reports of this in support. Our best guess is that perhaps a specific device on your network may be causing an issue. However, if you contact support we can likely figure out what is going on using the Collect Diagnostics procedure.

2012

Viewed he Tutorial video, set up WF2IR (seems ok, self assigned its IP address and system recognizes it) created Living Room, went to add device. Attempting to set up my first device (The receiver, as your site recommends) its the AVR 887 I've mentioned previously. The Samsung UN46C8000XF TV & the WF2IR display in the "Choose Controller" window (as expected). I choose the WF2IR. The "Choose Port" window opens. I choose Port 1 with an emitter attached to port 1 & the Denon. The "Choose Type" window appears. I choose "Receiver". A blank "Choose Brand" window appears. Given that window time to refresh for the "Brands" to appear. No list appears, the Brands window remains blank. I already purchased the home theater & IR packs. The internet connection is active. In the Roomie store the theater & IR packs indicate installed but the installed "buttons" are gray, under intensified in the in app store. Im assuming thats normal. The "restore purchases" button remains on the screen in the intensified condition. Again assume thats normal to the in app store. Whats the fix please?

That can happen if the install never is able to download the device library. On a normal internet connection that takes about 9-20 seconds on first launch of Roomie. You will then see a message stating it was successful. If you try to add devices before that completes, the Add process wont let you complete (as you're seeing). We'd recommend restarting your router or otherwise checking your WiFi signal or connection, or just waiting some hours for network conditions to resolve themselves. Then, restart your iOS device and/or Roomie to try again and wait for the success message.

Roomie is alive! After trying your suggestions, going to the in app "Compatibility" Tab seems to have "booted" the "Brands" data download. Selected the square button at the top of that page, slightly to the left of center. Almost immediately the down load began, alls good. Now a happy camper The set up is moving right along. Thanks

Strange just had this issue setting up Roomie on new iPad mini. Device upload would take aged, and either Eddie or never complete. I tried over 2 days per this and other thread. Turned wifi off/on, deleted app etc but what finally got it working was hoping into compatibility tab and hitting the white square (stop) button per above post. Next time roomie attempted to update device list all was good with the world!! Strange solution though.

Ports mentioned: 1

2012

Question: The Sonos AUX 1 problem is solved. I needed to select V-AUX at input switching insted of AUX 1. Why, I don't know. I just tried it, and it worked. What is V-AUX?

Still the username and password for the dreambox is not solved... Please help needed.

2012

Is there a way to direct the channel guide to change the channel on my cable box rather than the TV? I can't find where I can change this and the option is greyed out on the guide setup. If I accidentally hit a channel in the guide at this point, it changes on my tv which isn't what I want it to do.

Make sure that your Activity is setup with the Cable Box as 'Opens Remote'. Then, open the Activity. Now, when you edit the guide settings or tune channels in the guide, the Cable Box will be the target. Before any Activity is opened, the first device in your list capable of tuning channels is used for the guide. After an Activity is opened, the device associated with that Activity is used.

Thanks, I'll give that a go.

Worked like a charm. Thanks!

2012

IR Learning & Basics

Question: In the course of software development over time, some features are confirmed as critical over the years, and sometimes the opposite happens. Certain features simply never pan out into their original purpose, or no longer apply due to changes in user needs. There are a couple of features I'm thinking we can remove in the Fall release, but I'm posting this here now in case anyone wants to make a case for them surviving.

IR Learning: The UI for this is the oldest UI in the product. The whole area ...

IR Learning: The UI for this is the oldest UI in the product. The whole area needs a lot of work to bring it up to par. Meanwhile, it is not clear anybody ever uses this feature. We have a great IR Library built-in which satisfies 99.99% of all IR code needs. For those incredibly rare cases that still need learning, there are several tools out there such as iHelp for Windows, iOS, and macOS from Global Caché that learn codes from iTach devices in GC format that can be pasted into Roomie's Custom Devices editor. It seems better to me to let IR Learning be the province of tools designed specifically for that, just as we long ago returned iTach firmware updates to their tools.

Volumes Homebar Item: We have a multiroom linked activity feature coming in the next major release. This finally makes sense of volumes across multiple rooms taking into account which activities are related and active. Meanwhile, the Volumes Homebar item was sort of the nascent beginning of that idea, and now is simply slow, or not useful for common tasks. This Homebar item would be removed. Possibly with a complete re-design it could return in the future, but I'm just not sure there is a need for it. It was most useful for things like large Sonos group deployments. Dynamic group updates from the UI level for Sonos could be more difficult without it if anyone is doing that. Of course, such group updates are likely better handled by pre-designating all the group changes via command lists rather than tapping individual speakers into the group from the UI.

Last call on the above two features!

2024

I have a Dr. J projector that I would like to control for holiday decorating videos. Is it still possible to add IR codes for devices that aren't supported by RR. I did it many years ago, but it seems that this might not be possible now.

Staff response: No changes there. Just add it as documented as a code set.

2020

new user here...
I am trying to connect the Simple Control IR out to my HDMI & IR over CAT6 transmitter.

I am using mono cable from the Trip-Port adapter to the IR Input of Binary (SnapAV) B-320-1CAT-HDIR. This needs the IR signal at the tip and ground on the ring.

It's not working... as I can see the receiver end of the HDMI & IR over CAT isn't sending anything.

Has anyone had any success with this? Thanks

Figured it out... had to use the Xantech compatibility cable. Now it works.

2019

Stick emitters on separates. I found that using blasters in a confined space doesn't work so well. (AV installer 15yrs)

The blaster reaches everything in the cabinet but not the TV (mounted on wall wall). So I stuck an emitter directly on the IR receiver of my TV. I have tried this with the emitter connected to port 2 or port 1 with the blaster on port 3 of the iTach. Looking at the IR configuration panel in the iTach WF2IR Setup and Configuration as viewed from a browser, I see there are four possible settings, (1) IR out, (2) Sensor in, (3) Sensor notify and (4) LED lighting. I have tried all four setting but the emitter still does not work. Please advise.

All of those settings can be ignored, they have nothing to do with Roomie related stuff. The only one that matters is the only one we mention. That is (5) IR Blaster. The Blaster only works if you choose that option which you didn't list so presumably you didn't look on the "Connector 3" menu which is where that is per the WF2IR QuickStart.

Roomie Remote Support

I followed your instructions to the letter, including the reset, and now everything works. Thanks.

2012

IP/Network Control

Question: We are in the evacuation zone for the Palisades Fire. It may be days or a week or two before normal support response and responses here resume.

City still not allowing people to go home so we are in our third evacuation site. Fortunately we do think home exists, but no city likes mandatory controls on its citizens more than LA even when the skies and air quality are great.

I might get to some support queues today or tomorrow. Likely will remain very slow for at least another week. One nice thing is we are distributed so Ben in Washington is unaffected.

While we are not quite home, support response times should be back to normal at this point.

2025

Absolute new user here. Setting up Roomie and when I go to Add Channel Guide (in settings) it shows no providers. My country (USA) and zip code are correct. When I hit the drop down for provider, I get the light grey box with nothing in it. Let it sit for 5 minutes and still nothing. I have the cable box added (Xfinity X1) but it will not give me a guide. When I set up the cable box, it did ask if I wanted to find a guide and I said yes with the same results. It does control the box I might add. What am I missing? Thanks

Staff response: Everything seems to be operating just fine right now in my testing. Perhaps you ran into some provider downtime. I'd need your zip code and exact information if there is an actual location issue. Which as usual is inappropriate for the forum so contact support if needed.

It populated the next day but I couldn’t reply to the forum since the post was pending. All good now. Thanks!

2024

Question: Hi. JBL released a new series of receivers so hoping these will be added to Roomie. They published the IP protocol here:

https://www.jbl.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-masterCatalog_Harman/default/dw64d01606/pdfs/IP_Control_Protocol_MA_Series_v11.pdf

It looks similar to the existing codeset for other JBL units, but the commands appear different. I'm thinking a custom device using the DDK might work using code such as:

\t<dict>
\t\t<key>codes</key>
\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>.POWER STATUS

Staff response: Where are you getting the ISCP? I don't see that in that protocol doc.

Your basic codeset looks on the right track, but for example the command would be something like:

POWER OFF
\\0x23\\0x00\\0x01\\0x01\\0x0D

Get the codeset filled in and working/tested. Then contact support, send the codeset file and protocol doc, and we will try to schedule some time to add parsing the volume.

2024

Just purchased this TV and attempted to control with RR. It finds the device on the network but when attempting to control it displays a message regarding enabling Developer Mode and ADB debugging. On this TV you enable the developer mode by going to About TV and pressing OK several times to activate. There’s no option to enable ADB debugging within that menu. Has something changed in recent firmwares or am I missing where this option is?

Anyone else help with this so I can get control via RR?

I believe with the new units, the several button pushes un-hide the developer menu selection. So if the button presses work you should get a message and then you'll need to navigate to the developer options menu that will now show under My Fire TV. I know the TVs and Sticks vary but see if you can't find the new menu item which should have ADB on/off in it.

Dave

Thanks Dave,

The TV states developer mode is active but I obviously need to find the developer options somewhere in the menu system. It didn’t appear to show within the About TV option where I enabled developer mode.

I’ll need to investigate this further when I have more time. Thanks for the pointers.

Thanks again Dave for the pointer. Once you enable the developer mode within About TV a new menu appears with Developer options.
All now working well.

You're welcome. Glad it worked out!

Dave

So IP control via RR working well until the TV is switched off. I can't switch back on with RR only the Fire TV remote. Have made sure option to switch on with LAN and WiFi is on but it doesn't respond to a power on command or WOL command. TV is hard wired for connection not using WiFi.

Have you come across this issue?

Ignore above. After some further experimenting got it working using WOL with MAC address.

2024

IP control integration specifications for Bryston amplifiers including BR20 and BDA 3.14 models through network control.

2023

I use the Arcam AVR command set that is built into Roomie. It works really well but the volume control is a simple +\\- so if I don’t have a screen on (a projector in my case) I have to open cabinet doors to see what the volume is.
I’m tried the JBL set of commands on my Arcam (they both are owned by Hartman and their manuals on IP seemed similar) and it could control the volume on my Arcam. Nothing else worked - but volume control did and brought with it the dial that meant I could see the volume. With the screen now on it also meant that the on screen volume no longer came up as it was now on the iPad.

Is it possible to have this type of volume control for Arcam? It seems that the JBL commands work with it.

Staff response: Sounds like we might be able to enable that for Arcam. We don't track forum topics, and we're deeply buried in multiple long development cycles right now as we have just emerged from the gargantuan 8.4 tasks of Android TV 2 and Apple TV Keyboard support, so it will be a while before we could get to this. As is always the case, any kind of enhancement like this needs to be tracked and tested through the support ticket process. But since it appears simple, the chances of it happening through a support ticket are very high.

Thank you for the reply. My bad - didn’t realise I needed to put it into a support request. I will paste this into a support request.

2023

Sorry if this has been asked before, Tried searching but couldn't find an answer.

The user guide states when discussing power state tracking: "Puts a power toggle control on the list of Devices (in Edit mode) so that you can easily switch the Device to the desired power setting if it gets out of sync".

Could you clarify this. I have a couple of devices with "Track Power State" on and I can add the corresponding "Power On(Track State)/Power Off(Track State) commands to activities. But where do I find that "toggle control"?

Jeff

Staff response: Good catch. Obviously out of date reference in the guide. There are so few devices like this these days that this is the first we've heard of it. There is no manual override switch anymore. Sending the command of the desired state will set that state if it is not the current state.

Ah! Thanks.

It's a Verizon FIOS TV One box. Arris, formerly Motorola. So the VMS Series IPTV Receivers codeset works fine. But only power toggle. No discretes.

Jeff

2023

Question: About 5 days ago this TV provides a pairing pin anytime a function of the remote that involves the television is intiated. Reset and reformatted tv along with activities in roomie remote app. Issue is still occurring. This is very frustrating as the functions for this tv no longer operate when this occurs. I am not sure if it involves a Vizio update or if roomie made some changes that are making this occur. Tv is a Vizio M706-G3 running version 2.500.13.1-8. Roomie remote version 8.5.3 (2715)

Staff response: We didn't make any changes to Vizio pairing recently. Beyond that, I could only speculate on the forum since we don't have your config or diagnostics. Many Vizio users and no reports of issues though.

If true, easily solved. That's why we have the Relay system for other devices that do similar things. In effect, if some Vizio model needed it, the Relay system only pairs with your Primary.

2023

I’m tryin to figure out what I am missing. I have a room (Study) with complement of devices. Media activities were automatically created. I removed the on stop commands and customized the on start commands. None of the activities will run unless I switch on the confirmation switch. That seems odd to me. Is there something I can change so that tapping the activity will start it?

There is a switch in the Activity setup for Confirm Launch. Is it switched on?

That is not my question / problem, but thank you for the response a user .

My problem is: Some activities do not start and switch to the action panel.

(If I do enable the confirm button then it seems to work, but that should not be the behavior)

Any ideas?

Possibly your activities that don’t switch are set as Inline instead of Media? A Media activity is a normal activity, like “Watch Apple TV.” An Inline activity is something like “Control Lights.”

I found this in the manual around page 35. Just google roomie remote manual.

2023

I'm new to the exciting world of IP Control and want Roomie to work with the SDP-55. I see in the compatibility table the JBL support appears to be for Tinnov based SDPs which is not this model. Anyone with an SDP-55 get it working?

Staff response: It is news to me that the 35/55 were different from the 65/75 which we have, and it's not just different, it's not even related. This appears to be the protocol document:

https://www.jblsynthesis.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-masterCatalog_Harman/default/dw647d8417/pdfs/RS232_SDR35_SDP55__SH289E_D_29Oct20.pdf

It looks very straightforward, basic control would take just a few minutes to create as a binary codeset. Volume feedback would be more complex than usual though and definitely need an app update. You should contact support, sign up for TestFlight builds, and we will help get it working.

Off to a great start after submitting my support ticket. Using the Test Flight app and the test plist I can turn the unit on and off. I look forward to more functions!

2022

I have 7.2.0 on my iPhone and iPad. I can control an Amazon FireStick from my iPhone but not my iPad. All home, room and device settings are the same on both the iPhone and iPad. What am I missing?

Staff response: This is run of the mill support so should be moderated out. However, since enough people run into this it's always good to post a reminder even though it's everywhere in the Setup Guide.

This is a classic symptom of not setting up a Primary Controller. FireTV supports 1 connection at a time. Setting up a Primary properly handles this. So when one device works and another does not, that's what's going on. See the Setup Guide where this is discussed extensively.

2022

I cannot figure out why I cannot add volume buttons to Roomie for my Roku Streambar Pro (model 9101R2).

All other buttons show up as options and work great. I just cannot seem to find the volume buttons to add. It's like Roomie thinks its a roku box without the soundbar.

Thanks in advance!

Staff response: Add it as a Roku TV, that has those commands.

2022

Question: Can someone help me understand how to get the microphone to bring up Siri. Tried looking on the setup guides and old forum posts. For some odd reason it woks with one of my Apple TV’s and not another. I tried deleting the device (Apple TV) and reinstalling with no luck.

Is there also someone that can explain the difference between the Apple TV companion and the Apple TV airplay?

Staff response: This thread already covers this topic in detail:

As far as any specific issue to your system, a user that is not something diagnosable in a forum since it is probably related to the model of your ATV or what device(s) you added in Roomie.

2022

Hey all. I am brand new to Roomie; attempting to use it as a Harmony replacement. I was able to add my receiver for IP control, but my Shield is not detecting correctly. It is detecting as google cast Shield, and when I test it, there are only two buttons that don’t work. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. Any help is appreciated!

Staff response: * Restart your Shield, iOS device, and Wi-Fi Router.
* Try again.
* Check basic discovery attributes for your network:
Community Knowledge Base
* If all else fails, just add it manually on port 5555 as shown on the Compatibility table:
Device Compatibility
* Make sure to enable ADB on your Shield:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/shield-tv/9/423710/how-to-enable-adb-network-debugging/

It still wouldn’t auto discover, but manually adding after enabling ADB did the trick. Thanks for the help!

2021

Wanting to try out Roomie Remote. What's the oldest ipad that will get me up and running? I've seen some decent deals on a few 4th gens. But don't know how new an iPad I need.

Staff response: We do not have app-specific requirements. We simply require iOS 13. This page shows devices compatible with iOS 13:

https://osxdaily.com/2019/06/04/ios-13-compatible-iphone-ipad/

Every Fall, we increase the requirement by 1. For example, by the end of this year, we will increase to iOS 14 minimum and add iOS 15 support. For older iPads, the last compatible software version remains available to you after such a requirement increase.

When setting up a new system, my advice is always to use the newest/best iPad available even if it seems like overkill. Given that the typical use case is dedicated devices, the typical usage pattern is to purchase a new device, place it into service as a dedicated Roomie device, and give it 4 years until trade-in and upgrade. If you start at the end of that sequence with a 5 year old device, you can probably keep things working for a while, but it’s going to be difficult and certainly you’ll need to prevent iOS upgrades – assuming there are any for such an old device.

For new devices today, the iPhone SE 2 is currently the best price/performance for a dedicated device.

2021

Question: We found 1 person in beta having an unresolved issue with the new method of control. I'd like to get a sense of who it is working for and who it is not -- we are equally interested in the "it works" reports. So just post to this thread when you get it working or don't get it working. Make sure:

* Don't use an old Activity/Design. These can be tied to old devices.
* Do a Force Code Set Update just to be sure. Wait for all the code sets to count back up.
* Restart your AppleTV and iOS device if n...

* Don't use an old Activity/Design. These can be tied to old devices.
* Do a Force Code Set Update just to be sure. Wait for all the code sets to count back up.
* Restart your AppleTV and iOS device if needed.

Good feedback. So we're up to 3 people not working, and a bunch of reports of it working. Still trying to classify why it doesn't work for a few people. Please remember to post "it does work" as well, part of the important information is who it works for and who it doesn't.

We've already ruled out some of the basics like new model vs old model, or beta vs non-beta. Those are not the issue as we have positive examples for all. Let's try to keep the noise here low and just focus on works for me, doesn't work for me, and as concise as possible list of anything that might be unique.

The most likely sources of the issue at this point are something related to Home settings possibly related to HomeKit, or network settings. Unfortunately, we have never seen the issue and it's quite rare more broadly, so all we have to go on is diagnostics/logging.

> I am running Roomie V 6.74.

So to clarify, you're posting in the beta forum but not even running the beta? That's not useful information. Obviously the point of developing the new control method is that the non-beta production software is known not to work with tvOS 15 as announced months ago. For those not wanting to run beta, they should be staying on tvOS 14.

Want to make sure did anyone having an issue try an actual AppleTV "Reset" from the AppleTV Settings after they were on the GM?

Have already covered that obvious stuff like model numbers is not the issue.

I can imagine that > 1 HomeKit home could be the issue. Anyone having this issue have one and only one HomeKit home?

We've seen both positive and negative well before GM so there's no need to get into minor details of who updated when and how. As I said, it's home or network related.

Community reply: I'm running a Mikrotik router with CAPSman. No issues with other devices. Is ackattack or others experiencing issues running any HomeKit bridge software? Multiple HomeKit homes?

Just re-read some of the posts here... I was never asked about pairing by Roomie v.7. Is there a way to force that? That sounds like what is missing. I recall looking for Roomie in the Settings as a paired app, and did not see that.

ackattack... does Roomie show up as a paired app in the settings of the AppleTV where it works?

Pairing is automatic. What is happening is that pairing is failing due to an error. The discovery observation is possibly evidence of a network issue, but most likely nothing. Just to be sure, you can always check the diagnostic or send it t...

2021

Question: Brand new to Roomie, so still getting my bearings. We have three Apple IDs, one for me, one for my wife, and one for home automation iPads. All three are in an Apply Family Plan. So, I set up Roomie on an HA iPad and got that far. Then shared the configuration with my Apple ID and got that working. Now, I'd like to share with my wife's Apple ID. I downloaded the app, and it shows 'subscribed' as it should, but when I go back to the original iPad, select a Home, and select Sharing, it onl...

Staff response: That's an Apple UI. It seems to have been made a little less easy to understand in iOS 15. You just need to click into Share Options and then "Copy Link" and then send that link to whoever you want to add.

Strangely, the first time you add sharees, Apple provides this great UI where it automatically lets you send shares via Messages or many other direct options, but then every sharee you add after the first they just toss that link onto your clipboard and let you handle it manually. Even though it was already nicer in iOS 14.

The world works in mysterious ways.

Turns out you are right. This is an Apple bug in iOS 15 which is known. Works on iOS 14. References include:
https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/691268
and
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69843139/uicloudsharingcontroller-does-not-show-add-people-with-existing-share-in-ios-1

Seems like it has already been filed many times in RADAR so presumably will be fixed soon. Use iOS 14 to add additional people after the first and those work fine with iOS 15 and any other devices across iCloud.

iOS 15.2b2 has the fix for this.

2021

Question: The Delay Activity command doesn’t seem to be working, it executes the Activity command just before the Delay Activity command and then stops.

Staff response: There are several Activity Delay variations. Maybe post a screenshot of exactly what you mean from the Activity Setup panel.

Did this previously work for you and is now not working?

That 12 second delay would send the Wall Sconces action to your Primary. Is your Primary correctly configured?

That is what would happen if your Primary wasn't setup properly.

This is the Beta forum. There is no such selection in the software (anymore). "Default" was removed as it didn't work very well. "None" has taken its place. If you have no Primary, things like Activity Delays will not occur. This should have a better warning, but regardless that's always been the case. If your Primary Controller is the device on which the Activity is executed, and it is explicitly set, and you don't close the app during the delay period, it should execute normally. If not, only a diagnostic could determine anything further. As a reminder, you can also see the diagnostics simply by pinch to zoom.

I just tested and verified this functionality against the current beta and it is working well. Again, your Primary is not setup properly. Here is the full reset process to make sure that kind of stuff is setup properly.

Here is a detailed reset process that resolves all such issues. On the main device associated with the Apple ID that owns the subscription:

> 1. Ensure you have a backup of your configuration, the file named ‘RoomieBackup.zip’, and move it out of your iCloud Drive. If your backup is called SimpleControlBackup.zip, that will also work. If you have even older backup files with one of them named Roomie.plist, those will also work. Just make sure you copy them out of your iCloud Drive and have them safe before proceeding.
> 2. Go to the iOS Settings app, tap the top item for your iCloud account, then tap “iCloud”, then tap “Manage Storage”, then scroll down to any items labelled “Simple Control” or “Roomie Remote”, tap them and then tap “Delete Documents & Data”. Also perform this step on any iCloud accounts on devices to which you plan to share (that would need to be done on a different device logged into the account you will be sharing to later). This step can also be performed on macOS in System Preferences in the Apple ID section, tap ‘iCloud’ and then ‘Manage…’
> 3. Delete all Simple Control and Roomie Remote apps from all of your iOS device(s), tvOS devices, and macOS devices as well as any iOS devices to which you plan to share. Make sure this is complete including any older apps as well as any sister apps such as Intercomm.
> 4. Fully restart all iOS, tvOS, and macOS devices that applied in step 3.
> 5. For each macOS device, also delete these folders: ~/Library/Group Containers/group.com.roomie and ~/Library/Containers/maccatalyst.com.roomie.unified
> 6. Verify after restarting that all iCloud storage has been cleared and all related apps have been deleted by searching for the apps and going to the Settings app a...

2021

Hi! I’m trying to setup a Lutron Pico to control Denon receiver volume. It seems to work once when I press volume up but subsequent presses do nothing. The same applies to volume down. I’m not sure I set it up correctly as I couldn’t find any documentation on how to setup a hard button remote. Here is how I set it up. Please advise on what I’m doing wrong. Thanks!

Did you try adding a Repeat-Continuous command after Denon Volume Up and Down?

When I click … next to Volume Up, “Add Repeat” is grayed out.

Staff response: You'd need to look at the diagnostics (pinch to zoom anywhere on the screen – on the Primary Controller). I don't see you doing anything with Button Release, might need that. Or submit a ticket. We're deep in V7 development right now, but at some point we can probably look at a diagnostic for you.

Thanks for the info Will! I wasn't aware of the diagnostics prints. I looked at them briefly but didn't have a chance to look in detail. I'll review the diagnostic prints in further detail and submit a ticket later.

For now, I'll provide a little more detail about what I'm seeing. I added another button trigger with action Nvidia Toggle Play/Pause. Each of these button presses works the first time I press it but if I press it again, no matter how long I wait, it won't execute the command again. i.e. If I press the volume up button, it responds correctly but pressing volume up again does nothing. I can however press volume up followed by volume down and they both work. I can repeatedly press volume up followed by volume down with continuous success as long as I don't press the same button again without first pressing a different button. The same goes for the play/pause button. Not sure if this additional information helps but I wanted to provide some further detail about what I'm seeing. As I said, I'll look through the diagnostics to try to figure out what's happening on the second button press that's different than the first. Thanks!

2021

I am shopping for a new AV receiver.

Which brands do NOT need a single connection (Primary Controller) the way Denon, Marantz, Onkyo and Pioneer receivers need?

Staff response: The answer generally varies within brands.

There are ways to use many Denon receivers multi-connection using the "AVR Series IP" code set. However, they offer fewer commands using that interface, and some models don't support it. Their main code set does have connection limits. It may not always be 1 though. So one path is simply to try your model by turning off relay in the advanced settings of the device.

Yamaha is the reverse of Denon in that respect. Their secondary protocol ("YNCA") has connection limits, and their main protocol does not ("YXC"). Given that their main protocol has all of the possible commands, it may be the most direct answer to your question.

But again, at least for the two major brands Denon (aka Marantz) and Yamaha, the answer is not just binary. Onkyo/Pioneer definitely has connection limits, and only has their one protocol, so in this context it may be the most limited.

Broadly, I would not make a purchasing decision between Denon and Yamaha based on this factor. Both are excellent and should be driven by whatever other factors exist for you.

You can also use a global cache rs232 connection to the denon (make sure the model you’re looking at has rs232) to avoid this limitation, and have feedback to Roomie. The flex with a serial cable can accept multiple connections and allow serial control of the receiver. Agree with Will I wouldn’t abandon denon for this one issue.

2020

Hi Roomie Team -

Can you enhance the software to include the volume buttons on the screen when in guide mode?

Sometimes I am looking through the guide and also switching channels, but I might need to lower the volume. Right now I have to close the guide to get to the volume buttons.

This would be a great option that could be configurable (if needed) if a user doesn't want the option to have the buttons visible.

If you have any questions or concerns, let me know.

2020

Question: It would great if I you could extend the URL command to support the ability to add header information. Specifically in my case I would love to be able to use an authentication header. This would save me from having to create and or modify custom devices via the DDK every time I add new capability and programs to controllers and some other systems in the home.

Exampe 1 - Send a rest command to an ISY which requires an auth header.

Like
http://<ipaddofISY>/rest/netorking/resources/<Resource> ...

Staff response: That level of complexity with arbitrary HTTP headers is inappropriate for a UI. We do allow adding and changing basically any headers in custom devices. That is the right solution for something that precise and complex. ISY program execution (including the authentication) is already a built-in command via .PROGRAM RUN and its many relatives.

Perhaps your real issue is that you make changes to your custom devices (which are normally pretty static) and thus the process of updating that has too many steps to perform on a regular basis.

2020

I've used iTach IP2CC (or IR2CC) relay switches successfully with Simple Control for years now and it has always worked well. I recently installed one in our bedroom's TV lift cabinet, to raise/lower the TV. While it worked perfectly, unfortunately my wife has dog hearing and can apparently hear a very high pitch noise emanating from the IP2CC which keeps her from sleeping. My son can hear it as well, even though I can't. I tried replacing the iTach unit with a brand new one, but unfortunately it's the same issue even with the newest generation of the device.

So... I'm looking for an alternative solution - same exact functionality and needs to be compatible with Simple Control. Are there any other such devices that are compatible and reliable? Something not made by Global Cache? Anyone ever make something homebrewed with a Raspberry Pi or Adafruit modules perhaps?

Staff response: IP2CC hasn't been in our product line since maybe ever. I believe we removed them by 2013. In any case, they're definitely not the recommended choice.

A Simple Blaster with Simple Relay Cable is the modern solution to that.

Thanks Will - I was hoping for a solution that wouldn't set me back $200, though I agree that looks like it should work and is natively supported.

2019

Question: Are Siri shortcuts supported yet in V6? They don't seem to be working for me.

I've enabled "Siri Shortcuts" in settings. I defined some new shortcuts for a few activities (since there were already corresponding shortcuts for V5). Siri understands the new shortcuts when I invoke them. It says "activity name started (the actual activity name, not the shortcut name). It then opens the confirmation window with "roomie remote" in the title bar and a check mark in the window. But then nothing happ...

Staff response: Are Siri shortcuts supported yet in V6? They don’t seem to be working for me.

I’ve enabled “Siri Shortcuts” in settings. I defined some new shortcuts for a few activities (since there were already corresponding shortcuts for V5). Siri understands the new shortcuts when I invoke them. It says " activity name started (the actual activity name, not the shortcut name). It then opens the confirmation window with “roomie remote” in the title bar and a check mark in the window. But then nothing happens.

The same activities work manually and also when i use Alexa to start them.

This is on the latest 1908 release.

So is this not implemented yet or should I open a bug report?

Jeff

Others have reported it working. It also works for me. You mention V5 so perhaps it is some cruft left over from V5 conflicting.

I'm saying it's working for everyone else so far. So maybe there's something specific to you. Maybe it's V5 on the same device for instance. Maybe something else. Anyway, you asked if it's working, it is.

This kind of thing is a technical issue easily diagnosed with a diagnostic via support.

2019

Apple TV control through SC is second to none, and you hit the nail on the head in that the gesture control is smooth AF.

Hoping you can help here: (I'm using an Apple TV 4, 32GB, if curious)

1. I noticed that Simple Control keep creating remote app pairings with the ATV. I have a 'Roomie - my-device-name' and then several duplicates of 'my-device-name.' Since configuring SC v5, it's also asked me to re-pair with a code one time. Is this expected? Does ATV have a limit for number of remote apps paired with one device, or should I disregard this for now?

2. I wish there was a power on-off command for ATV, but we cannot have everything. My solution to this is to consider a long press of the 'Home' button followed by a 'Cursor Enter' command. Trouble begins here...I add the commands I just mentioned to the 'Power Off' section of the activity editing menu, but those commands never execute on power off...

I've tried other commands ('Menu' and others) and they successfully execute on power off, I've tried just the 'Long Press Menu Home' and it does not work on its own either.

Staff response: 1. There's really no such thing as a pairing anymore. You can just delete all of that and you can delete any device in Simple Control associated with that. We did have a device auto-upgrade around 5.0.5 or so to upgrade V4.5 style ATV devices in the config, but there are scenarios where old-style devices may still exist, so if you're seeing any pairing that isn't the simple automatic PIN number approach on the Apple TV screen, delete everything ATV related and add fresh. The new method is nothing like the old one and is not associated with any menus like the old "Remotes" menu on the ATV.

2. I suspect nobody turns ATV off so nobody has cared much since the power draw is insignificant, but I have seen a couple of reports that long press doesn't work in a system off. We'll look at that at some point. Possibly you could fix that by just designating your system off as Run from Simple Hub.

I suspect nobody turns ATV off so nobody has cared much since the power draw is insignificant, but I have seen a couple of reports that long press doesn’t work in a system off. We’ll look at that at some point. Possibly you could fix that by just designating your system off as Run from Simple Hub.
I agree that most won't turn off their ATV. There's one ATV I am controlling on a non-smart tv, and when it is put to sleep it automatically shuts off the TV over HDMI Control in lieu of IR or IP control

2018

Hello, I have 3 Directv boxes in 1 room. The main H54 works perfectly but I am able to control everything for the genies except power on and off. Any ideas why this might be? Another seemingly odd thing is the IP addresses for both genies on auto discovery are same as the H54 however they show as separate on my router info. I tried to manually add them with their IP addresses and no controls worked. Any help would be appreciated.

Staff response: Normally I would not moderate this up as it's a very typical support question, but in the interest of re-posting this information to help others in the future here is the information again as has been posted many times before:

DirecTV does not provide IP power control over Genie boxes. They are intended to stay on for IP control, they are very low-power so this is inconsequential.

Genie boxes are controlled through the main box (HR54, HS17, etc.), so yes they also share the IP address of the main box are being added.

I have seen this answer many times stating the genie boxes are meant to say powered on but how do you prevent them from being turned off by the Directv remote. We do not exclusively use roomie in the living room so my wife and daughter use the DTV remote to power off the TV which also powers off the genie? I understand this is not a roomie issue but just wondering how others may have solved this.

2018

Question: Does the ios 12 shortcuts feature open up siri to possibly control some aspects of Simple Control?

Staff response: It's too early to say, but it looks like at least some level of Siri-controllability will be possible. We're optimistic. At the very least, basic Activity launching looks guaranteed as it uses what we already added last year to support iOS Search. You can go in right now and type say "TiVo" into your iOS Search and see those Activities you have for TiVo. That level of information will be actionable via Siri. Exactly what else is available and what granularity is possible such as "set volume 50 in the Living Room" like you can with Alexa is unclear at this time.

It's ready to go. We sent it to Apple last Thursday. This is the most busy time of year though for them especially this week. It could go live in 5 minutes or 5 weeks. After 7 years and 39 days on the App Store, I've learned never to try to predict the App Store timing.

Siri Custom Intents was both better and worse than I had hoped last June. The best way to describe it is to say I simply use it differently than Alexa. I would say I use it as often and perhaps for more important scenarios than Alexa. Alexa is more flexible with what you can say, but with Siri CI you say exactly what you want to say so you don't need to guess what syntax Alexa might be wanting.

How I might wake up with Alexa:
"Alexa, turn on Great Room Waffle Wakeup"
With Siri CI:
"Waffle Time" -- I tend to use "hold to talk" on an iPad home button for Siri, but that would work just as well with "hey Siri...".

Alexa has a semi-predefined syntax that we provided broad support for so you can say something like "Alexa, tell Simple Control to tune HBO in the Living Room." With Siri, you'd need to put that into an Activity, but you'd then be able to say simply "HBO" or anything you want. Alexa does not have a "say anything you want" mode.

There are a lot of little differences. In the end, I like it. I prefer it for some things. I might prefer it for more if I didn't have years of brain muscle memory for all the Alexa commands. If you don't use Alexa now for Voice Control with SC, I think people will love it. Some people will use both. People in the many countries not supported by Alexa will be overjoyed.

One interesting difference is that Siri CI does not require a Hub, so if you just use one controller, more people will be able to use voice control now. Every iOS device is independent, so if you say "waffle" into a particular device, that device needs to have been setup for exactly that. On one hand, that's better because "watch TiVo" can be setup on each room's iPad so that there is no need to specify the room in the command as with Alexa (eg. "Watch TiVo in the Living Room"). On the other hand, it means you need to setup a fair number of commands on each device and think about whether an iOS device moves between rooms in which case you may need to vary commands or add the room name back.

The fundamental piece Apple hasn't implemented yet is understanding what the user is trying to say from voice. They will match your p...

2018

Question: OK, I'm guessing that this won't happen due to the changes required, but I figured I would ask as there are likely other people in the same boat as me. I have an older iphone that can run ios11 which I want to use as my Simple Hub, but I use older ipads as remotes. iPads seem to lose support for the latest version of ios faster than phones, so I was thinking that perhaps in the scenario when people use a device as a hub that older devices would be allowed to run a special version of Simple 5 tha...

Staff response: SC5 was such a dramatic improvement that it needed better system requirements. What we will return to in the usual Fall annual update is our 2 version cadence. So the Fall 18 release should support iOS 11 and 12. The Fall 19 release should support iOS 12 and 13. This year is a special case, perhaps an opportunity for users to catch up their devices a bit more than usual (iOS 11 also didn't cut out a lot of devices), but as a general rule we should return to broader iOS support this year beginning with iOS 12.

For those who absolutely can't upgrade their iOS devices now, you can of course just keep using 4.5 which has not changed the iOS versions it supports. It is still on the App Store though it will be removed very soon but that doesn't stop it from working. Note though that Dropbox Backup will not work in that as of Feb 1 as previously announced here and flash-announced inside 4.5 multiple times over the last month. Also, any devices added over the last year and continuing such as newer Fire TVs, nVidia Shield, and many more are not supported there.

Now is the time to move to SC5. Better to plot the move to SC5 than concoct band-aid solutions for the short term.

To synchronize, make sure all devices are running the same version. However, if you ignore synchronization and don't need the devices to talk to each other, then in principle you could have other devices running whatever version you'd like.

Anyone who ever purchased 4.5 can still download it and use it without issue by just going into their App Store purchase history. Removing it from the store has no impact on any users of it.

2018

Question: Hello there,
It appears at least some of the 2018 Panasonic TVs have a new IP protocol. I have the TX-65FZ802b OLED screen and the current IP device on longer works. Adding a device recognises the TV and will configure, however, it won't actually successfully control the device. It appears that connecting to the TV now requires a PIN, which I confirmed by downloading the official Panasonic TV app and it required a 'pairing' step when first started (the TV automatically broadcast the pin to in...

Staff response: What country is that in? I can't recall seeing a Panasonic TV here in the US in many years which is why we don't list them as supported. I'm guessing that if it is OLED, they are probably just repackaging an LG OLED. It's possible if you added it as LG WebOS, perhaps that would work as certainly we handle all the appropriate pairing there. Regardless, these don't exist in the US market, so we have no information on it. Sounds like a rebrand.

In any case, the point is we need to have one in order for it to be supported, and getting one in the US is not currently possible.

Still does not exist here. Literally you go to Amazon, type "panasonic tv" and not a single one comes up. So combine "non-existent API information" with "non-existent in most of the world" and this is not going to happen until one of those changes.

2018

Saw this device on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071GVGVVH/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A13GKGC3CZ8Q9A). Apparently it learns older ceiling fan RF remote controls and the alows control over WiFi with Alexa or Google Home. Any chance for support in SimpleControl?

Jeff

I have been a RR Subscriber for a couple of years and also a user of the original BOND bridge hub for controlling RF devices. BOND has been reliable and the developer has made many improvements and updates to the software over the time I’ve owned it. In addition, they have grown to include embedded controllers with a well-known big-box home improvement store.

I have used BOND bridge to control every ceiling fan in my home as well as a retractable awning under the SOMFY brand. Functionally, BOND is reliable and responsive, but they have never supported HomeKit, which I have chosen to be exclusive to, outside of RR.

I once had some support for integration with iOS Shortcuts using an IFTTT web hook, but the developer, Olibra, has recently abandoned IFTTT support in favor of other integrations (Google, Alexa, Samsung). They seem to have a well documented SDK, but I have no experience with that level of development. My knowledge largely extends to simple scripting and such.

This thread is now stale with no activity since 2018, but I am curious about whether you’d consider adding this as a device in RR? As a hub, it could add compatibility with a large number of SmartHome devices where currently a "gap" seems to exist (RF Control).

Thank you for the consideration and thanks for the continued development of RR!

I'm using the HomeBridge Bond Plugin to get Homekit integration for my Bond devices and by extension, access in Roomie Remote.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff,

Appreciate the response. I figured I can’t be the only one with a bunch of ceiling fans!

Not to drift off-topic too far, but what kind of device are you running homebridge on? Old Mac or PC? Raspberry Pi? Has it been reliable or finicky for you?

Originally I was running Homebridge on Windows 10. It worked fine but because it was my general purpose machine, I was doing lots of things including rebooting often. So I switched to a dedicated Raspberry Pi. It's been really reliable and works fine.

Jeff

I know this thread is old but I'm also using Bond Bridge for control of a number of Somfy blinds and curtains.

Anyone successfully added this to RR as a custom device? The API looks straightforward so I'm hoping someone may have made a custom device for RR.

Many thanks.

I just bought a Bond as well. Be interested as well if anybody has already done the integration.

I've been using Homebridge to get my Bond devices into Roomie without issue for years.

I have an ISY and that could be an option for me. I just prefer to do as much from Roomie as possible. The extra hop over to ISY adds a delay.

2018

Question: I am a new user and have a recent model Yamaha receiver. I am trying to set up the device so I can directly access the streaming services (Sirius, Pandora, Spotify) with the SC app. However, I only see a command to select the NET input. I don't see any commands to directly start the Sirius app, or the Spotify app, etc. I know there must be IP codes to directly access the individual streaming services because Yamaha's own app has buttons for direct access to each of them. Any assistance appr...

Staff response: We support MusicCast directly now. Recent Yamaha models are based on MusicCast. It is added as a MusicCast device.

This assumes "recent model" means it has MusicCast which is the case for anything that would actually be a recent model. Contact support if you need assistance with determining your model functionality.

2018

Anybody else doing anything with SC, Siri Shortcuts, and HomePod? I've been trying to make them work but find them frustratingly unreliable especially with HomePod.

Things are not bad at the device level as different phrases seem to work fairly well (although Siri seems to confuse "TiVo" and "Tebow" frequently) but the same phrase will frequently result in HomePod either saying "I can't do that with HomeKit because I'm not sure what you mean by TiVo" (default Simple Control phrase) or by playing music (custom phrase). But sometimes, the phrase works fine when I set it up but, a few hours later, it stops working

Best I can tell, all the HomePods in a Home are supposed to understand all the Siri Shortcuts from all the iOS devices that can control devices in that Home but it's hard to tell given the unreliability I'm experiencing (I have five iOS devices and four HomePods).

If HomePod hears a Siri Shortcut does it need to talk to the device owning the shortcut to execute it? Does that mean I should just focus on creating Shortcuts on my Simple Control Hub (a dedicated iPhone 6) if I'm primarily interested in using my HomePods?

Any tips or tricks from your own experiences? Any phrasing that works consistently with HomePod?

The dearth of information about Siri Shortcuts on HomePod or any way to see what's going on doesn't help.

Staff response: Siri Shortcuts has been broken on the Apple side for about 1-2 weeks. Seems to be a server side problem. Has nothing to do with us. Was working great for months but roughly after Thanksgiving started going nuts. I'm sure they'll get it fixed soon.

cf:
https://twitter.com/search?q=siri%20shortcuts%20broken&src=typd

https://twitter.com/reneritchie/status/1070463183868055553

Thanks. I follow Renee but I'm few hours backed up on my Twitter stream. I guess I'll stop tearing my hair out trying to make it work.

Staff response: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/05/siri-shortcuts-not-working/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds

Staff response: https://twitter.com/reneritchie/status/1070708962612391937?s=21

I was only having problems in HomePod and it seems fixed.

It does seem like there are lots of potential issues with Siri Shortcuts where there is goin to be a semantic conflict between the recorded shortcut and Siri's domain knowledge especially with HomePod where Shortcuts from multiple devices and multiple people could be pooled.

2018

I’ve searched through this forum multiple times, but I still cannot successfully create a http device and send json command to control homeseer.
I thought he simple GET url would work, but I’m getting nowhere.
<string>/JSON?request=controldevicebyvalue&ref=723&value=100</string>
How do I enter this into the plist file? I read the DDK document, and the http example, but I can’t relate the POST xml example to my url. Can someone please give me a nudge in the right direction.
Also, is there a device type number to list Homeseer as ‘Automation’? The closest one listed is ‘Auxillary.
Thanks

2017

Question: I have both a Fire TV Stick and a Fire TV 4K, both the latest models from Amazon. The Stick works with Simple Control perfectly but I cannot get the 4K to work at all. It is auto-discovered by the app without any issues (and I've also tried manually adding it) but it cannot be controlled. ADB is enabled. I've tested it using the Android Tools for Linux running on a Raspberry Pi and both Fire TV models are controllable using the command line eg:

adb start server
adb connect 192.168.1...

Staff response: Since nobody has reported an issue with that model, and I have one here and it works fine, I'm more inclined to think this would be connection related. ADB has issues with more than one device connecting. Be sure every Simple Control instance is shut down along with anything else that may attempt to connect to that device. Then power cycle your iOS device (which also helps ensure you don't have other errant apps trying to connect to it) and then connect.

Unless you're going to WireShark it, that's about all that could be done in a forum environment. Support can diagnose these things easily.

Fixed the auto-reply to say Jan 2, next Tuesday.

Anyway, we’ll take a look at it next week. Hopefully someone actually filed a support ticket.

This has been resolved in 5.0.9. It will go to the App Store after some beta testing, review, etc.

This issue should apply only to the very newest Fire TV 4K full size model. But in principle in the event Amazon changes the firmware for any others, we will recognize the change automatically.

2017

Question: Hi

The new Shield (gen 2) does not support IR Control

But I know it supports IP Control

I downloaded the Google Android TV app to my IPad. At first it requests a confirmation code. However it recognized my new Shield and once setup was fully controllable including built in mic and keyboard.

Would it be possible to get the IP Control info from Google and integrate it into SimpleControl?

Thank you very much in advance.

Staff response: If they publish a supportable protocol, we're happy to look at it. My understanding is this:

* nVidia didn't add anything themselves, so it's got whatever Android TV has. This thread on their site continues to confirm that:

forums.geforce.com/default/topi ... mmands-/5/

* Android TV isn't controllable via IP except with the Android TV app which is not published. Whatever they are doing is uniquely unknown it seems to anyone right now. My basic impression from reverse engineering it a bit is that this is a warmed over version of the very old GoogleTV protocol that would be close to impossible to fully reverse engineer this new/custom implementation.

* Using ADB should be possible for this. Unfortunately, Shield does not use the same ADB as Amazon Fire TV, so our existing implementation for that cannot be used for Shield. This is the only viable path I'm aware of right now.

Unless some other path comes to light, we will probably take a look at this at some point after the release of 5.0.

Note that the upcoming 5.0 includes much improved support for all Chromecast devices. So you can now wake nVidia Shield with that. Personally, I use Plex on nVidia Shield which also can then respond to the Home button so the sequence that works for me (with 5.0) is to wake the Shield via Googlecast and then send Home to PMP running on the Shield. Of course, that's only relevant if Plex is the only thing your Shield is doing. Generalized control of the Shield will require something like the ADB path above.

BTW We have IP control of the Shield in the next update... I mean including cursor control, Home, etc.

It is live now.

I saw one other report of someone who was having that issue. So far it's not clear why it works for most people and internally we're not seeing any such issue. It's probably some variation we're not aware of. Make sure your Shield is fully up to date with network updates and go through support for any further queries so we can try to nail that down for you.

Yes, this could affect both types of devices. It's fixed in 5.0.10 probably this week.

Yes. Follow the instructions in the panel after you add it where it tells you where to find that setting on your Shield.

Nope, still called "Network debugging". Screenshot?

803,000 results on Google.

https://docs.nvidia.com/gameworks/content/devices/shield_first_boot.htm

2017

Question: I am a longtime user of Simple Control who just updated to version 5. I also just purchased a Integra DRC-R1 Preamp and I'm running into a few issues setting it up in SC and could use some guidance.

I've set the preamp to a static ip lease and added it manually using manual setup specifying the ip address and port 60128 (as specified on the compatibility page. I set it up as Integra Receiver using IP control for zone 1, set up the input mappings and added the device. I am able to assign input c...

Staff response: There are a set of about 15 very recent Onkyo/Integra and now some 2017 Pioneer models that must be auto-discovered in order for volume to be properly calibrated. If you added it manually and see this, contact support. We can stab your config to fix it and also tweak auto-discovery for your model.

2017

Question: I got a little excited thinking I had found a use for my old iPad-2's and keep them out of the landfill (I still use them for light duty tasks) ... but now I'm not sure.

I've read the Introduction (references to the mia Simple Control Legacy) in Simple Control v4.5 User Guide and I see iTunes says "iOS v9.3 or higher". [b]I currently have SimpleControl-Home v4.5 running on a iPad-Pro and a iPad-2[/b].

I think the best way to ask my question is like this ...

1. On v4.5 to v4.9, how much longe...

Staff response: V4.5 runs on iOS 9.3 through iOS 10. We presume it will run on iOS 11 because nobody has reported any issues, but we are currently only testing V5 on that. Certainly, V4.5 is not optimized for iOS 11 per se.

V4.5 will always run on those platforms as it is the last of that line. V5 as we noted previously (see Announcements forum) is a separate app so it wont override whatever device you want to use V4.5 via automatic update, etc.

V5 will require at least 10.3 and at this point likely would require iOS 11. This is a list of iOS 11 compatible devices:

macrumors.com/2017/06/06/io ... od-models/

V4.5 and V5 Simple Control environments will be 100% separate. All devices will be either V5 or V4.5. The slight exception to that is, because the appliance Hub gets a forced update, it will work in both a V4.5 and V5 environment. All other software will enforce that members of the mesh are the same version as usual. Nothing else is a forced upgrade. Transitioning to V5 is a separate app for iOS, tvOS, and macOS.

Dropbox is also separate. A new app folder is created on Dropbox by V5. You can rename your old one to transition, or keep both.

While you can also install V4.5 and V5 on the same device at the same time, you should ensure as in the past that Background Refresh is only turned on for the app you actually use. The reason to have them both installed at the same time is for instance if your subscription is tied to the old app and you have not yet transitioned it to the new app or the website.

V4.5 and V5 Simple Control environments will be 100% separate. All devices will be either V5 or V4.5.

Do not cross the streams. You can remain on 4.5. Or you can upgrade all devices to 5. There is no inbetween. No matter which Hub you use.

2017

Question: Starting to investigate HDMI-over-IP solutions for n x m video switching over gigE networks.

"Just Add Power" has devices that support 4K UHD resolution and their website lists Simple Control as one of the 3rd party control systems that supports their hardware ( justaddpower.com/control.html )

I would like to know if there are any docs or information on how the integration with Simple Control works. (Searched this site and didn't find anything).

Most ...

Staff response: As far as JAP, this is on the compatibility list. Manual IP port 23. Shouldn't be anything else needed. These are not the most complex devices. You can just add the device manually and see the commands that are supported without actually having the device. Support would be the best contact for in-depth questions. I do recall there were a couple of edge features with JAP that I thought would be cool to implement one day. I believe one of them was the ability to stream an HDMI input over IP. That would require a test unit.

WRT video distribution generically, I will put in a vote for using a matrix switch. I may be a bit of a rare case because there is essentially no source device I don't need to use sometimes for testing purposes. When we moved into our current house, only CAT5e had been wired to all TVs. So that blocked out some options. We ended up today using an Atlona PRO3-1616M (replacing an 8x8). The fact I can have both 4K resolution and transition easily from room to room with any source is invaluable. We also don't need a ton of sources in each room which is both expensive and a pain to manage.

The catch today is that many sources are increasingly adding HDR, and that particular Atlona is not able to handle full 18gbps. I am hoping this year things finally settle down enough for a top end video matrix solution that includes full HDR over CAT. Not sure it's possible or will need to use fiber in the next house.

A video matrix can be one of the most important parts of a medium/large sized home. Highly recommended.

2017

Question: I have been using TiVo with SimpleControl for years (since the early Roomie Remote days) and it worked great. I just switched to Xfinity X1 and have found I cannot get SimpleControl to work with it. I researched this forum and only found a couple mentions of X1, but nothing definitive. It does not appear that the Ethernet port on the X1 box is active because my DHCP server doesn't have an active lease for the X1 box and the X1 settings menu does not give any option to manually assign an IP ad...

Staff response: Infrared is definitely the way to go there. It's of course in the IR library already (under Xfinity).

While Comcast did announce forthcoming IP control for the X1 in September 2015, it is.... still.... "forthcoming". We are keeping close tabs on it in the event it were to be released.

I strongly recommend TiVo for Comcast environments.

Yes, all X1 boxes are also well-controlled via Infrared.

iTachs are the original blasters from ~2012 and prior. They used a wide variety of firmware and older hardware resulting in various support rat-holes. The GC-100 models were completely unsupportable and those have not been something we have supported officially for many years.

Over the years we have introduced 2 hardware generations and major firmware improvements over those original products. The current generation is called Simple Blaster available at shop.simplecontrol.com and Amazon. New users should only be provisioning Simple Blasters. That has no impact on existing configs or existing users.

If you have an older iTach device configured right now, you do whatever you want with that, we're not holding a hard line here and forcing everyone to migrate, it still works. We are drawing a line in the sand that while trivial to workaround right now at least establishes that everyone should be moving off those ancient units toward supportable modern blasters in the long term. New configs shouldn't use outdated iTach devices and instead use either a Roomie Blaster or Simple Blaster that have consistent firmware with the fixes needed, can be upgraded by our software, etc.

2017

Curious about support for recently added functionality on Fire TV remote of being able to hold the menu button(just right of the home button) for app specific menus/functions. The Fire TV remote included with Simple Control has the menu button and it works fine, but it doesn't seem to support the hold for 3 seconds and get a secondary behavior.

I would be very interested in the functionality to!!

Found it, it has been added as a separate command (Menu).

2016

These two brands are very common in homes and pool integration in general doesn't require a lot of commands. Thx!

If you use the Autelis controller it is easily done with http: commands
autelis.com/wiki/index.php?t ... _Reference
works well for basic control of Hayward/Goldline equipment within simple Control

That is exactly what I needed. Thank you!

I remember seeing this before, but ended up not needing it because ~insert other control system brand name here~ finally fixed their own driver.

This is going to open up a bunch of sales opportunities for us with Simple Control.

I owe you a pizza!

2016

Question: More ane more Apple HomeKit devices are coming on the market. Has there been any more thought about enabling HomeKit control in Simplecontrol. I thought the rebranding of Roomie Remote to Simplecontrol was to become more of a whole home control rather than just a remote for your tv.

Staff response: I've commented on this in the past, but it is probably archived in the pre-Simple Control forums so I will briefly comment here again.

HomeKit is just another device to us. There is little to no value in "supporting HomeKit", it does not give users a feature or functionality. The cursory Siri support it provides is sufficiently walled off that our users would not find it useful and it can't be seriously compared to the Amazon Echo integration we provide.

There is value however in supporting specific devices. We have a long list of devices that users request that we support. Nobody requests "HomeKit" as a device. Instead, they request a specific device. To date, none of the requested devices users ask us to support require HomeKit to control them. For instance, last Fall users requested Ecobee. We could have chosen HomeKit or non-HomeKit implementations. Instead of limiting ourselves to a closed block on a given device to control Ecobee, we implemented Ecobee support directly allowing a broad range of additional functionality including triggers, remote access, etc. Given that supporting a device directly is better than using a proxy API via HomeKit anyway, it has so far been significantly better to support requested devices directly.

If a specific device is requested in sufficient quantity by users that [b]can only be controlled by HomeKit[/b], then certainly adding HomeKit support in order to control that particular device would be a minor task. Until then, in other words, until HomeKit provides a genuinely unique path that isn't accomplished in a better way by not using HomeKit, we will continue to add direct support for devices. I imagine that as HomeKit grows over time, eventually there will be interesting cases that we can enable using it. Just as we have been at the forefront of many technologies such as iBeacons, and introducing an Apple TV app just weeks ago, I have been eager for compelling scenarios to present themselves related to HomeKit though they have not yet done so. Perhaps HomeKit will grow up a bit at WWDC and over the Summer we can re-evaluate once again whether it then provides any additional value for our customers.

This unfortunately was not the year HomeKit grew up.

First, on the Siri API. There has been, as usual, a lot of misinformation in the press about this. The press hears "Siri API" and writes glowing articles about lovely API perfection without the burden of any technical detail or factual correctness.

The reality of the "Siri API" is that it has been severely limited in two ways. First, it has been locked down to 7 specific domains including ride sharing, making calls, and a few other very constrained things all totally irrelevant to automation. You cannot use the Siri API to do anything at all other than those 7 things. If you are not a ride sharing app or a VOIP app basically, you're out. So that makes that simple to ignore for the next year anyway. Siri completely ceded the home to Amazon Echo,...

2016

Question: A great way to add scalable HDMI distribution to an existing local network. Needs a managed network switch. A transmitter encodes the HDMI video onto the network and a receiver decodes that video for display. Simple Control would need to control the managed switch using IP. Just Add Power already makes a bunch of drivers for other control systems and the commands would be similar to any other traditional matrix switch in terms of the number of commands needed. Two-way feedback is not important e...

Staff response: It's on my list to update the code sets UI, and for one thing let it add individual codeset files from your iCloud Drive. Should be pretty soon. Meanwhile, the DDK provides the step by step process for adding custom code sets (which is somewhat complicated).

2016

Question: Applications in WebOS 3.0 such as Netflix can be launched via IP control using the +DIAL APP LAUNCH command. You have to pass in a parameter name to tell it what app to launch.

Since there isn't a list anywhere, I just guessed and was able to get Netflix to launch using the parameter "Netflix".

So far I have been unable to guess the parameter names necessary to launch Amazon Video and VUDU, the other apps I'd like to be able to launch. I tried "Amazon", "AmazonVideo" "Amazon Video", "VUDU", an...

Staff response: If you bring up the Channel Guide for the LG TV, we show you the list of all of the apps installed on the LG WebOS models. If you then choose to launch one of them, you may see the command go by in the command bar showing what the application name/ID is. You would then create an .APPLICATION LAUNCH command to launch that. That's going to be usually the better bet with an LG TV.

DIAL is a bit of a wild west. Exactly what works on which TV is semi-random. However, the app names for launching are standardized and listed here so this should be another option:

dial-multiscreen.org/dial-re ... e-database

.APPLICATION LAUNCH is much more reliable on LG TVs.

Example parameters for that are "netflix", "amazon.html", "youtube.leanback.v4", "hulu", and "vudu". Those should work across any LG WebOS 3.X release.

Support can provide the answer to that via diagnostics.

2016

Question: Ok it's 2016 and time to reenergize this long term request to get Australian free to air and / or Foxtel guides integrated. All the old posts hint that it was progressing back in 2013 and discussion faded over time. What is the current status of data from rovi and is there any plan to get this sorted sometime soon?

Staff response: Anything from 2013 was based on Rovi's roadmap stating Australia support was right around the corner at the time. Over the ensuing year or two, that roadmap kept pushing Australia further and further out and now it is just not there. So figure 2015 is the year where we're going "hey guys, did you forget to type Australia on the roadmap chart because we sure were expecting that in 2014." Sometime in 2015 it was clear that was not happening anytime soon so we started researching options to do this independently of a third-party going direct to an Aus provider. We have a lead on one now, so it's possible we will go down that path. It's on the radar, but the original path got blown up by unknown factors at Rovi.

As background, there are basically two guide data providers in the world: Rovi and Gracenote/TMS. Gracenote does not have Aus either. So there is just no path under which this can be done at this time without appreciable Aus-specific surcharges and dedicated code specifically for this case – which applies to no other country in the world.

Apparently there is some potential on this front. How important is "Foxtel" to AUS users? It seems they are a special case, but free-to-air channels seem to be possible.

I can compensate for the percentage of users that visit the forum. I know how many actual people run the software in each country for instance. The point is to make clear that Silence = No Feature. I need to hear from AUS users to make this happen.

I have a better plan. Deleted the poll. If you want access to Australia guides, send a "Submit Bug" message to support asking to join beta.

If it works in beta, which it seems to in cursory testing, great. But someone who actually lives there needs to tell me how well it works or what it's missing.

2016

Question: Any possibility of adding IP control for the 2016 Vizio P series displays?

Staff response: Vizio last we checked does not have IP control. Their latest models seem to be Googlecast-only, not even native apps.

If an infrared code is missing for your device, you may learn it with the built-in learner in the Simple Blaster. We'd love to know what you think is missing, please Contact Support with questions. Certainly we have many Vizio TV users, and they're all using Infrared.

As far as I can tell without actually reverse engineering it and going deep, the Vizio app is just a Chromecast app. It's different from all the other TV manufacturers that have protocols with apps that send common commands like "power on" or "input HDMI 2".

Chromecast instead handles things like "play this stream", and it has a sidechannel to specify volume.

Our Chromecast support is undergoing a major update in 5.0. I think it's pretty likely it would at least power on the Vizio TV, but this has not been tested. It does work for all kinds of other Chromecast devices like NVIDIA Shield. We would be happy to add a few beta testers if you contact support on that topic to try it.

Now that looks like exactly what we need.

However, implementing it is way too complex to hope it works. That will need direct testing against a real unit. But given this work exists, I'm inclined to do it.

This is all already implemented in V5 due for release shortly.

Vizio TV input selection is possible now. Notice in the upper right there is a media guide for it and that allows input selection from the TV. So we can send the commands, they're just not in the list a static commands. The command you're looking for is .CHANNEL SET, but you will probably need support's help figuring out what to pass it for each input. We'll be handling that more automatically at some point soon but it's pretty simple now regardless.

2016

Question: Is there a way to rearrange the Roku channel guide icons? They auto-populate, but in a seemingly random order.

Staff response: This is in the next release.

The "next release" is V5 and is indeed now available. The Roku guide is dramatically improved from V4.5. It's not just sorted. It now also displays the active app highlighted, and brings the app information into the remote itself not just the guide.

Something you might not notice at first is that the Action Panel also adapts to your usage. For instance, if you launch the Amazon app from the Roku guide, the next time you open the Action Panel, the margins will add a button for the Amazon app automatically. As you use more Roku apps, the margins will continue to fill up with as many apps as can fit in the margins.

Similar dynamic additions to Action Panels also apply to various other guides/devices.

2016

Question: It would be nice if there was a method to brighten or dim lights other than using the sliders. I understand there are .SCENE DIM, .SCENE BRIGHTEN, .DEVICE DIM, .DEVICE BRIGHTEN commands for Insteon lighting - is a comparable possible with Lutron?

Staff response: Some devices implement these commands slightly differently. In the case of Lutron we don't need those other commands because the basic .LIGHT ON command takes a brightness parameter. So the single command does the whole job.

The .LIGHT ON command is parameterized. You can specify an exact brightness level as part of a Button, or you can make it part of a Slider.

2016

Has anyone been able to get the Genie extension to be discoverable? I can see the HR54 and it works perfect, but not able to see the other extension devices. I can confirm the are connected to the Internet by using the Directv IP remote. Anyone one have any recommendations? Thank you

Has there been any acknowledgement or reply from the folks at SimpleControl aka Roomie? This is a huge deal for DirecTV potential customers like me.

Staff response: There was never an issue here that couldn't be instantly resolved via Support, and then we released 4.0.7 with discovery fixes for this many weeks ago.

As a reminder, the forums are not a support venue. Sometimes we (accidentally) moderate up support questions like this which actually should instead have been easily resolved in support, but look mysterious as forum posts and then exactly this happens which is that people come across a thread and incorrectly think there might be an issue. Everyone who contacted support with this issue was quickly taken care of, and the software was updated quite a while ago.

2015

The first version of the API feature has been working out pretty great so far. I'm a web app developer (mostly front-end), so I whipped up a quick API tester, located here.

This gets my current activities and put them into a dropdown list. I can select an activity and click "go" to test.

It's all pretty old-school for the moment (I'm looking at you, jQuery in 2015...), but now that I've got it working I'll be starting in on a reactjs version with some real, custom UI.

One roadblock to this working properly is that the built-in server Roomie Agent uses doesn't set proper headers for CORS. It's entirely probable this is by design.

I wound up creating an HTTP Tunnel (I did mine via node, but you could probably do applescript or a bash command or whatever suits your fancy). The tunnel acts as a decorator, and runs on the same port I serve this JS upon.

It captures all requests going to /api, and finalizes a few things before making a backend request to Roomie Agent. This means I can use ajax calls on the front end (aka: no page refresh) without worrying about CORS restrictions in the browser.

Here's a quick example of something that would work in node running express, but really you can do it in just about any backend language with CURL or whatever.

Note: this second gist is only a partial example. I have gulp running express for me and a bunch of other craziness. I also didn't bother with an example that captures GET, which you'll need to return the activities list. We're focusing on POST in the example since it's slightly more complicated. Also note we stringify the data before sending it to the agent on line 9.

To test, I created a quick activity that just runs through each input on my HDMI switch every time the "go" button is clicked. Works like a charm.

Next up I'll be working on a small app for the Pebble watch using their JS framework to enable Roku and AppleTV control right off the watch. Having custom UIs and enabling them on devices not yet supported is really the holy grail of why I looked into Roomie Agent in the first place. Happy with how it's working out so far.

Hope this helps someone else out.

2015

Question: Is there any way to send a direct command to a smart TV or AppleTV(4) to open an app?
For example, if I want to turn on the TV and open the Plex application, is there any way to do this with one click of a button on my iPad (and not need to fumble with the TV remote or the Apple TV Remote)?

(I know there isn't currently remote support for ATV4, but hopefully that will come soon)

Just want to know if (in theory) this is a possibility.

Staff response: Why not just use the existing .APPLICATION LAUNCH command that is already there for Sony TVs?

But if you want to do it yourself, the DDK does provide detailed examples of sending such commands. The sample in the DDK is in fact a Sony device with near identical syntax. See the Knowledge Base for that.

This thread is an ancient relic and unlikely to be correct as Sony TV architecture is now based on Google TV and uses a completely different codeset.

The thread below however looks current with modern Sony models and has example launch names:

2015

Question: Any chance Roomie control of the new PMP is going to be added soon?

Staff response: PMP is not the same as PHT as far as the interface we use goes. Given we have a lot of Plex users, it is likely we will be adding support for this. However, note it is a large effort as it is completely different.

We almost put this into 4.1.1. PMP seems somewhat unfinished right now so I'm not sure I wanted to push people to try it by releasing it and what we had a few weeks ago didn't have the Media Guide anyway so it would be a downgrade from PHT. We plan to revisit soon.

Based on our experience to date, we'd recommend sticking with Plex Home Theater for the moment. You can certainly expect we'll support PMP in the not too distant future though.

The most common issue here is that you need to add your Plex Media Server as a device and enter your Plex credentials into that in order for the guide to work. Support can help determine what might be the issue.

2015

Question: Has anyone used a TiVo Bolt? I am setting up a new system, and am trying to go 100% IP. I see the Roamio in te list, but nothing on the Bolt. Suggestion welcome!
Thanks

Staff response: We believe that works fine, but until we test it or have a preponderance of success reports from users we don't have enough data to add it to the compatibility list yet.

I'm looking at photos of that remote and don't see anything notable. What do you mean?

Doesn't have anything to do with a Bolt afaict, but whenever I see a comment like "where is channel up/down", I wonder, "you do know there is a guide where you just tap channels and that now everyone has the guide because everyone has the service?"

Secondarily, the button tray does not close after tapping a button. That must have been some other mis-tap. Once open, it's open and you can keep it that way if you like.

Please review the release announcement. TiVo Mini should be added as a fresh device. It's now just like a full-fledged TiVo.

You should report that to support.

2015

Question: First, where do you buy a simple control hub?

Next, I currently have Harmony Hub. How is the simple control hub better?

Staff response: The Simple Hub is simply a device to provide a lower cost way of running Simple Sync – which is now available for OS X and Android platforms. We expect it to be available hopefully this month or shortly thereafter. It will be available at store.simplecontrol.com.

The Harmony Hub is comparable to a Simple Blaster not to the Simple Hub. The Harmony Hub simply outputs infrared and is a pure blaster rather than a flexible device like the Simple Blaster which has 3 discrete IR outputs and can even switch to serial control or relay control with many additional options totally outside the scope of Harmony which is 99% an old-school IR product. The Simple Blaster is also open so it is compatible with many products, and much more easily integrated into scenarios like a cabinet where a single point can't reach every controlled device. Additional comparison chart details are here:

simplecontrol.com/the-simple-comparison/

The Simple Hub is a totally different beast – the Simple Sync page goes into what that does:

simplecontrol.com/simple-sync/

For most users, the primary function is synchronization between multiple devices. It also provides triggers (both time based and device feedback based), Remote Access and more. Use of Simple Sync/Hub also provides SmartThings Integration and soon will be the core component for our Amazon Alexa integration.

Yes, the full name of Simple Hub is actually "Simple Sync + Hub". You would not run Simple Sync and also have a separate Simple Hub. You only need one or the other.

SmartThings is not at all a competitor. They do exactly nothing in the AV space. Similarly, we don't provide our own line of motion detectors, etc. They are more or less a DIY alarm system. From an integration perspective with Simple Control, the most useful elements are usually triggers based on motion detection to effect an Activity in Simple Control such as turning on lights or turning on a TV, etc.

2015

I know that it's already been said that the preferred control option is IR, but it can't be in my case.
With the device in standby, the tray can open and close when I press the button in Roomie, so unlike the TVs, the NIC & CPU aren't shutdown.
Is it therefore possible to power it on from standby using IP?

NMAP from device in standby:-

Starting Nmap 6.47 ( nmap.org ) at 2014-09-07 20:55 Eastern Summer Time

NSE: Loaded 118 scripts for scanning.

NSE: Script Pre-scanning.

Initiating ARP Ping Scan at 20:55

Scanning 192.168.1.14 [1 port]

Completed ARP Ping Scan at 20:55, 0.21s elapsed (1 total hosts)

Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 20:55

Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 20:55, 11.02s elapsed

Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 20:55

Scanning 192.168.1.14 [65535 ports]

Discovered open port 8080/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 55000/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 52345/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 6000/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 7676/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 55001/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 8443/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Discovered open port 4443/tcp on 192.168.1.14

Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 20:55, 14.22s elapsed (65535 total ports)

Initiating Service scan at 20:55

Scanning 8 services on 192.168.1.14

Completed Service scan at 20:56, 31.10s elapsed (8 services on 1 host)

Initiating OS detection (try #1) against 192.168.1.14

NSE: Script scanning 192.168.1.14.

Initiating NSE at 20:56

Completed NSE at 20:57, 78.99s elapsed

Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.14

Host is up (0.00033s latency).

Not shown: 65527 closed ports

PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION

4443/tcp open ssl/pharos?

|_ssl-date: 1970-01-21T22:47:49+00:00; -44y229d2h08m23s from local time.

6000/tcp open X11 (access denied)

7676/tcp open upnp AllShare UPnP

8080/tcp open http lighttpd

|_http-methods: OPTIONS GET HEAD POST

|_http-title: 404 - Not Found

8443/tcp open ssl/http lighttpd

|_http-methods: OPTIONS GET HEAD POST

|_http-title: 404 - Not Found

| ssl-cert: Subject: commonName=server1/organizationName=Samsung SERI/stateOrProvinceName=Surrey/countryName=GB

| Issuer: commonName=CA root/organizationName=Samsung SERI/stateOrProvinceName=Surrey/countryName=GB

| Public Key type: rsa

| Public Key bits: 1024

| Not valid before: 1970-01-01T00:00:00+00:00

| Not valid after: 2030-01-01T00:00:00+00:00

| MD5: cfed beba 8b97 cd23 a4ea 2111 dd6f 0827

|_SHA-1: 4242 3dc7 c308 b648 7d0c 3630 542d a4af c462 33ca

|_ssl-date: 1970-01-21T22:47:49+00:00; -44y229d2h08m23s from local time.

52345/tcp open http Samsung AllShare httpd

55000/tcp open unknown

55001/tcp open tcpwrapped

MAC Address: 50:56:BF:14:4F:XX (Samsung Electronics Co.)

Device type: general purpose

Running: Linux 2.6.X|3.X

OS CPE: cpe:/o:linux:linux_kernel:2.6 cpe:/o:linux:linux_kernel:3

OS details: Linux 2.6.32 - 3.5

Uptime guess: 20.951 days (since Sun Aug 17 22:08:23 2014)

Network Distance: 1 hop

TCP Sequence Prediction: Difficulty=263 (Good luck!)

IP ID Sequence Generation: All zeros

Service Info: OSs: Unix, Bada; CPE: cpe:/o:samsung:bada:1.2

TRACEROUTE

HOP RTT ADDRESS

1 0.33 ms 192.168.1.14

NSE: Script Post-scanning.

Read data files from: C:Program Files (x86)Nmap

OS and Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at nmap.org/submit/ .

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 139.84 seconds

Raw packets sent: 65555 (2.885MB) | Rcvd: 65565 (2.623MB)

The other thing is that Roomie doesn't power off the device (put into standby). Is this due to an incorrect code setting in Roomie? How can I test?

2014

Hello,

This is my first forum post, so apologies in advance...

I have a Denon AVR-X3000 with a 2nd HDMI port (which is connected to a 2nd TV) that can be controlled fine via the Denon IR. Basically the Denon's 2nd HDMI port can either:

1.) play the same material as the Primary HDMI port concurrently (mirror of the primary TV) or
2.) play (& control) another HDMI-in source independently.

For example I can watch Cable TV on the Primary TV (Primary HDMI port) and watch a Blu-ray (or an Apple TV) on the 2nd TV (via 2nd HDMI port)...or watch the same Cable TV channel as the Primary TV.

On the Denon IR remote, to control the 2nd HDMI port you hit the 'Zone 2' button and then hit the corresponding button to control the input HDMI source. In Roomie, I do see a 'Zone 2 Power On' and 'HDMI Output 2'... but am not sure of the command sequence to fully control it.

In Roomie, I set-up a separate "Room" for Zone 2 to control it independently.

Any help is appreciated.

Sorry to post a question, then answer it. But after digging through others' questions and trial-and-error, I eventually did find an answer:

I need to create another device: Denon Receiver Zone 2. I had originally just copied the Activity from one room to the 'Zone 2' Room and was hoping to modify the Start Commands. But what needs to be done is to start from scratch creating a brand new device, selecting Zone 2 for the 'Zone 2 Room'

I hope this helps others!

2014

Hi,

I'm testing an UE48H6200 new H serie 2014 and the TV didn't accept the connection over IP. While I'm trying to be connected, the TV should ask me to accept the authentification. It was working on a 2013 serie F model. Do you know if they're using the same port 55000?

Thanks in advance

We have no information on the models that have just come on the market. You may want to try making sure any related sounding options are turned on in the TV's settings. Also, make sure that Samsung's app works with it. A more technical step would be scanning ports to see what is open as perhaps the port was changed.

Based on research with a new top end HU model, the Samsung TV IP control protocol is definitely non-existent. Samsung appears to be going yet another year pushing users to serial or infrared. The EX-Link port is prominently labelled and featured, so apparently serial it is (or infrared).

Most importantly, the new replacement IP control protocol still does not support turning the TV on. So while we do plan at some point to reverse engineer the new protocol, it will still provide only limited value and we would encourage first connecting any Samsung TV via serial or infrared.

The good news is that while not supporting power control, the new Samsung TV IP control protocol finally provides feedback for many items such as volume. So even if you are controlling power for the unit via infrared, we will eventually offer a way to display feedback for various items such as volume and mute via IP.

Trying to setup a new Samsung H7150. A port scan reveals the following ports: 6001, 8000, 8080, 8443

One interesting thing is that during screen mirroring from another Samsung device, I was unable to see any open ports.

At this point, I'm just looking to get volume control through my Roomie Remote App without IR.

Any advice would be greatly helpful.

Thanks!

If all you need is volume control, you will definitely get that with with feedback in the next release. Actually, that part extends back even to the 2013 models as well. But as we noted, they still don't support power control so we advise IR or Serial control for any Samsung TV.

We do however also have one other solution coming in the next release that might work for some people...

So I purchased the iTach Flex IP but didn't realize that, besides the DB9 Female to 3.5mm Male cable, I also needed to purchase an additional DB9 Male to 3.5mm Male cable in order to go into Samsung's Ex-Link port (no serial port on TV). That cable should arrive tomorrow and I will be able to confirm results.

Incidentally, I can confirm that simply using a 3.5mm Male to 3.5mm Male cable from the iTach Flex IP to the Samsung Ex-Link port does not work :frowning:

Yes, the iTach 3.5mm is a 4-conductor pin, while the Samsung ExLink is a 3.5mm 3-conductor jack. The signals signals simply don't line up. More than that, Global Cache has some special-sauce going on with their D...

2014

So what's the best way to handle multiple buildings? I have several buildings near my house that have automation that I would like to control with Roomie. For now I can just name each room with "building - room", but it would be nice to have an option where you can add an additional top layer. Yes, all buildings are on a flat network and thus devices are discovered in all of them.

The amount of people who would use this would be <20. How many people would need to control different buildings? How many of us have more than 1 "building"?

If you mean a shed or something, I get that, but not multiple buildings.

Ever hear of a vacation house? And I'm sure companies and churches are using it, too.

Sure, it's not the norm, and that's why I said "optional." Default to the current view...

No need to get caught up in terminology. The general need for "multiple location" support is something we're looking at in the not too distant future. The word "building" is easy to get thrown off, but certainly the idea that you have multiple locations and may want separate configurations and an easy way to switch between them is recognized as something we want to add.

Being able to name and reload or switch configurations via Dropbox would be great as in "Dropbox restore configuration 'vacation home' instead of just "Dropbox backup" and "Dropbox restore".

This is important for us "Pro/Consumer" users helping friends with their own configurations - need a quick and easy way to switch configurations for testing and debug.

Good call on that, spiv. Like that idea.

Roomie 2.2 includes a partial solution to this issue or at least significantly simpler than ever before. Saving the recovery links provided by the Backup to Roomie Service option allows you to switch more easily between entire configurations.

I have bought my first Roomie system today and waiting for the shipment. However, we have 4 homes: my wife works in one location, I in another one, we have a home back in our home country and are currently setting up a vacation & retirement home in another location. I would like to equip them all with Roomie (as I have with Plex), so that we have the same UI in each location. Our iPAD's are always travelling with us. It would be great, if Roomie could switch automatically to the right location, once I enter the door (proximity detection?).

If you keep the rooms in the same configuration, you can setup iBeacons and have rooms auto-switch via proximity detection.

If you don't want to keep all your rooms in one configuration, you can use recovery links to quickly swap configurations each time you switch location.

2014

It's been a while since I've setup my Roomie. Just got a this 900B 4K.
Roomie found the TV as a new device.
It paired. (Roomie popup).
I also did the Register on the Test Remote and also on the Virtual Remote.
Sony's TV SideView works.
When I press a button, I.e. Vol Up/Dn, the command is shown in blue (versus red when no network connection)

All the buttons show the blue feedback in top left of remote but nothing done to TV, I.e. no vol up/down.

What did I miss?

Sony 2014 TV models are not yet on the supported list:

Device Compatibility

It should be trivial to add them, but we need a user that owns one to contact support and provide several pieces of information from the unit that can be obtained from most web browsers. It will take a few bits of information from the TV to update for it.

Wake on LAN should work regardless right now BTW.

Thanks to hwitten's help with testing, we've just deployed an update to support the Sony 2014 TV models and updated the compatibility list accordingly.

Auto-discovery works fine with the 2014 models. The primary difference is that sending the REGISTER command is now required for all commands rather than just input commands.

Thank you very much for the quick response. Working great.

2014

I received and installed the iTach Wi-Fi/Infrared device yesterday to use with these devices:

Onkyo TX-SR501 receiver
Sharp Aquos TV LC-32D44
Motorola VIP1200 cable box (Bell Fibe TV service in Canada)
Apple TV (2nd generation) (configured as an infrared device)

So far, I configured two main activities, ie Watch TV and Apple TV. The commands I entered work, but not consistently. There is often one command which is not executed, sometimes the TV will not turn on or the video input will not change on the TV or the input on the receiver will not change. That is even when I increase the delays to give the devices the time to execute the commands.

One problem comes from the fact that the Onkyo receiver only has a descrete command for POWER OFF and not for POWER ON (only POWER TOGGLE). I worked around this by starting both activities with an Onkyo Power OFF and then a Power Toggle later in the chain.

The Sharp Aquos seems slow at executing commands, so I increased the delays (and inserted commands) between the Power ON and Change Input commands sent to it.

Still, these two devices will not respond consistenly.

Also, for the Motorola VIP1200 cable box, it looks like it is not possible to configure a guide. I can select the Country (Canada) and Language (French or English), but the Postal Code field remains greyed out.

Thanks in advance

François

There are two basic techniques to address that kind of thing.

The first is delays, which you've already used somewhat. Delays reduce confusion between multiple devices when multiple commands are sent one after the other.

The second is repetition. You can either set repetition for all commands to a given device (Retransmit Count on the device) or for only a specific command ("Repeat" duration on the command in the Remote Design.)

In your case, it sounds like especially the Sharp TV could use some repeats (as well as delays). First just try increasing the Retransmit Count and then if needed you can refine it with individual Repeat durations on specific commands.

The Postal Code field is never grayed out for Canada. Just tap the right side of the field. The left side doesn't activate.

Thank you.

Thank you. I was able to solve the problems using delays and inserting the same command (input change) many times in the sequence.

I am finding out that my Sharp Aquos (TV) is quite picky. The time it requires before it can accept an input change command after a power-on is quite long (and also not constant). Also, if a power-on is sent to it to early after a power-off, it will not take it.

Guide: I could indeed enter my postal code. However, the "Bell TV Eastern" guide for Canada, French, and my postal code does not seem to include the French HD channels (1101, 1102, etc.).

Thanks

2013

Question: I upgraded my directv to the above with the HR44 and two C41 clients. Roomie only recognizes the HR44 and not the clients and it won't turn power on and off. When will full support for ths configuration be provided?

Staff response: Based on surveying support requests: All support requests related to this for the C31 did not find a way to power the unit independently that we can find.

With the C41, we have one here and based on a total absence of any power issues in support requests along with our experience easily being able to power it on via IP, this seems like an issue that was fixed in the C41 models.

Note that there may be a mode that even the C41 gets into where it needs a manual power on after a full restart of the main HR44. The eco power save mode must be turned off on the C41 menus.

I figured something out. I really do have c41 clients because I have the wireless Genie(I didn't know that there were only 1 model of wireless, due to the fact that Roomie sees them as c31 clients when adding the devices). I don't know the reason Roomie sees them as c31s(wired Genies).

Is there any way to combat this? If I could connect directly or get roomie to see them as c41(that they are), I'd have my issue fixed?

2013

When I press the Netflix button nothing happens but if I press the Vudu button it goes to Netflix. Must be mismapped? Also will Vudu graphic be added to virtual remote?

Are you using serial or IP as the command sets are not related?

Either way, it sounds like a bug on the Oppo side. The underlying commands are effectively "NFX" and "VDU" and they are correctly mapped in Roomie in both sets so the only way to mismap those would be if your box was misinterpreting them. The Remote Design can be used to remap them regardless.

I'm having the exact same issue as OP.

Also, I checked with the Oppo remote app on my iPad and both the Netflix and Vudu buttons functions properly.

Using IP commands

We're going to look further into this. If anyone with a 103 is using serial and seeing this, please let us know. We assume this is limited to the new IP set for now. The commands are correctly mapped in Roomie, so the only way we can see their app doing this differently would be if they intentionally mismapped the commands to work around a firmware bug in the Oppo. To determine that we need to ask Oppo and/or reverse engineer their app with a 103 as those commands don't do anything on the 9X models anyway.

I just received teh Itach IP2SL today so I'll try and hook up the 103 via serial to see if it works correctly.

Okay, finally got around to setting up the Itach IP2SL on the OPPO 103 today and it appears that the commands in the virtual remote for Netflix works correctly. But the VUDU command still doesn't function it actually appears to be linked to another key.

I have the BDP-103 and via IP control Netflix button does not work from Roomie yet works fine from Oppo's iOS app. Anything I can do to help debug this one? Also, any workaround on my end to get this to work? Thx!

I havn't tried the individual button in the Virtual remote but I have a Macro set up to turn the TV on, switch imputs, turn the OPPO 103 on and then switch to NETFLIX and it has worked every time without problem.

asunsell, lucky you :wink: I have worked with Roomie support, and everything we've tried has not worked. They acknowledged that this is a problem in that they are following the documentation they got from Oppo but it doesn't work. I do have the most recent Roomie iOS app and have the up-to-date 103 firmware. Is it possible you are on an older 103 firmware that happens to work? Also, if convenient, can you try the Netflix button on the virtual remote and see if it works, toggling between Netflix and Main menu for example? Appreciate your help!

Still does not work correctly. Vudu is mapped to Netflix, can't find a way to directly start Vudu on the Oppo.

We're following Oppo's vendor documentation and just received an update to that as recen...

2013

Technical Details:

Having just downloaded and setup Roomie I'm struggling to understand why the Apple TV can't be controlled via IP when there is an Apple Remote app which controls it perfectly from an iOS device. This must use IP to control so why can't this app be used within Roomie to control the Apple TV or be sniffed for the packets sent and these duplicated within Roomie?

Is there a way to call up the Apple TV Remote App from within Roomie as a workaround?

Doing some Internet searching I came up with this link:

perceptiveautomation.com/use ... php?t=4546

This suggests that the Apple TV can be controlled via IP and that the protocol isn't locked down as stated in the FAQs. However I'm not sure if this info is for the first generation Apple TV or the Apple TV 2. It would take a little investigation and programming but if Roomie can become an authorised device for control within the Apple TV then I see no reason for not having direct control from within Roomie.

Further reading has brought this up which is definitely aimed at the second generation:

forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=11157.0

My Apple TV is jail broken (is anyone's not!!:)). So direct IP control is perfectly possible if ATV flash has been installed.

can somebody from support explain why this hasn't been highlighted as a possibility and how we can integrate the Apple TV into Roomie with direct control provided it is jail broken?

We already list that command set if you're willing to go that length. Firecore has been listed for many months on our compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

In reality, only a miniscule number of Apple TVs are jailbroken. Firecore also is still saying it doesn't even support the third generation (current) AppleTV. Doing any of that is a high-risk option at the least, but regardless we do provide the command set.

We discuss this topic in the AppleTV FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

Sorry that was my mistake. I hadn't noticed the Firecore compatibility with Air Control. I'll investigate this as an option.

The jail broken Apple TV offers so much more functionality compared to the non jail broken version. It really is a joy to use. I understand Firecore are still actively working on jail breaking the 3rd generation.

To my surprise I'm using my AppleTV less and less now that I have a Sony bdp-s590. I don't have to transcode my videos any longer (it even plays mkv), and I can simply stream everything from a DLNA server instead of making sure that my computer's iTunes is running and all my metadata is good. Apple's unwillingness to provide IP control via something like Roomie is only making me less attached to their "hobby."

The jail broken Apple TV will...

2013

Question: I have setup roomie to work over IP with a Panasonic 320 blu ray and have followed the instructions to use a play command to turn on the unit.

I have a problem in that after the unit has been powered off for a few hours it does not respond to any IP commands (they all show red) - the only way to power the unit is with the stock remote via IR.

I have turned on remote devices ( which also turns on quick start) and but for this issue roomie controls the player superbly. I have tried wit...

Staff response: A recent firmware update labelled version 1.63 finally seems to have resolved the power on via IP problem with the Panasonic BDT-320 model from 2012. We have tested this successfully over a couple of days and it appears this is resolved.

Note that the 230/330 models from 2013 still have no IP control whatsoever which is pretty unique in the industry at this point, those models were just not ready for prime time and should be avoided as they also revised their marketing to act like the deficiency was by design. The 220/320 models are now good alternatives if you want to use Panasonic.

I actually wrote a written letter of complaint to Panasonic about this issue (not something I would normally do) as their responses on this were shambolic and confusing. They insisted that none of their devices had this feature despite a lot of evidence to the contrary. I purchased a Flex Wifi so I could work without this feature but it became a matter of principal.

Their last communication on the issue was that they were going to update the firmware to remove the text on the device that said it was possible rather than fix the fault itself. I'm glad they changed their mind.

The fact that I get notification from Roomie, rather than Panasonic, that the fault is fixed speaks volumes. Thank you for your excellent service on this.

2013

I would love the ability to view the recorded shows on my Genie Dvr within Roomie and be able select them for playback on one of my directv clients. This ability is native to the Directv app and is very convenient.

Thanks for your work on Roomie. It truly is my favorite app.

Curious if the Roomie folks could at least comment as to whether this is possible or not. And add me to the chorus of folks that really would like to see this feature. It's things like this that make using a touchscreen for a remote MUCH better since you don't have to look back and forth to navigate. And the DTV app sucks so bad that just switching into that app is annoying, too. The Roomie Guide works wonderfully, and it would be great if there was a similar setup to browse and launch recorded shows.

You might want to try version 2.1+... Those with the Roomie Service have access to some unofficial functionality.

It took me a few minutes to locate the feature but it's there in plain site. You guys never cease to amaze me.

Can you provide some instructions on how to enable this? I can't find it.

Just tap "Recordings" on the Media Feedback panel of the Virtual Remote. The Roomie Service is required.

As the warning says when you tap it, this is an experimental feature and may be removed at any time.

Was The Recordings feature removed? i have latest version and i don't see it

No, this was not removed. It will not appear if your box doesn't support it or if you don't have the Roomie Service.

Does the HR34 DirecTV box not support this feature?

This is not working in 3.0.1. It's back in 3.0.2 which we expect to be live sometime next week.

2013

Question: I recently changed my two DirecTV DVRs and their Whole Home network from a LAN-only delivery method to a Single Wire DECA delivery mehod. Roomie now seems to have a problem 'seeing' the DVRs. Are their any known issues with DVR's on a DirecTV Whole Home/DECA network?

Staff response: Thanks for the tip regarding “Network Analyzer Lite" I actually tried it, liked it and bought the full version. Nice tool and I'm sure I'll need it too because one of my DirecTV DVRs is still dopping from the network every few days even after I set them up with fixed IP addresses.

2013

I am doing this for my Sony BluRay player. You can't power it up via IP commands, so I added it both as a direct IP device and an IR device through my iTach IR, and manually added a Power On command via IR before any IP commands are sent.

Then my problem is perhaps not related to mixing IP and IR commands after all. But if that is so, what could be causing it? I think only two devices are actually affected, a BR player and SAT receiver. It usually starts with a particular IR command not being recognised (it comes back red). Soon thereafter more commands that formerly worked fine stop being recognised until the whole device becomes inoperable. These devices have their own emitters.

Red commands mean the controller is not responding. So the issue there is likely network related (eg. spotty Wi-Fi) or a problem with the controller.

Thank you.

Yes I read that in the FAQ as well, but I cannot imagine it is the network. Fisrt of all because it streams other (non-Roomie related content) without a hitch and second because when I try to access the controller on the web there never are any problems. It just comes up. So how do I diagnose this further?

Contacting support can confirm with diagnostics that the controller is not responding.

Thank you.

2013

It would be immensely helpful for the Roomie DirecTV guide for music channels 800-8## to display the description ( 90s’, Jazz, Blues, etc.), and possibly song title. Currently, those channels only show “Sonic” so there is no way to know the type of music making that part of the guide useless. The normal DirecTV guide and DirecTV iPad app has this information. Thanks!

Same thing for the PPV channels

+ 100!

I asked for this a looong time ago in a discussion about directv's on demand channels.

Just please put a placeholder in with the channel title so we are able to go to these channels within the guide! I can provide a channel list if necessary. :slight_smile:

OR -- better yet -- allow us to add our own custom channels for things such as directv so we can insert any missing channels ourselves.

Was hoping to see this in 2.0 (nice update) but no luck, still need to use another app to tune music channels and jump back to Roomie. Please keep on the wish list.

Hate to resurrect an old thread, but was just curious what the roadmap for DirecTV additions is? I can help brainstorm if this is still something on your to-do list. Here's what I'd like to see offhand:

-- Custom channel names (this would help for regional channels or music/ppv/etc).

-- long-press on a show in the guide to record. As of now, I find myself going back to my directv remote for recording things because it's a little cumbersome on the ipad. Being able to long-press a show in the guide to record would definitely solve this.

Might as well pile on - I'd like to see a "selector" to choose which custom guide I want to use.

2013

Is it possible to add a 30 second skip button for a Comcast (Pace) DVR?

There are two ways to think about that.


  • Macro multiple commands from your remote to create a button that simulates 30 seconds of skipping. For instance, if your remote has a skip button that skips 8 seconds, create a button in Roomie that sends the command 4 times. The advantage of this method is that it always works with everything.

  • If you know the exact model and manufacturer, there are often special codes you can enter either to enable a new button as 30 second skip, or to change the default skip into a 30 second skip. Google is your friend for that one. It's usually a funky sequence of commands that nobody would guess, but does exist for most boxes.
  • There is a "hidden" 30 second skip on every Comcast remote. It's fairly common knowledge to anybody who has had Comcast for awhile and was technical enough to Google for it.

    I think what the jonobo is asking for is the step by step process for enabling the 30 second skip on the Roomie Remote.

    Below is a link with step by step in instructions on how to enable 30 second skip on the Comcast remote.
    howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-574 ... cast-dvrs/

    How do we add this same "30 second skip" command to the Roomie Remote? Please provide step-by-step instructions. Thanks!

    First, use the steps you found and get your original remote working with the code.

    Second, learn the code in Roomie as its own device with just that one code:

    Roomie Remote Support

    Third, add the newly learned device as an infrared device to your Room.

    Finally, open your Comcast Activity, tap the Design Name at the top to edit the Remote Design, choose a button you'd like to send that command, and add/change the command for that button to send the command you learned to the new device.

    For this device specifically, you may also want to attach your RoomieCodes.plist file here after you learn the code for future users that come along and read this thread so that they can skip steps 1 and 2.

    2013

It sounds like something in your configuration is marked "Power Device" in a particular Activity when it actually applies to multiple Activities. Just unset that if you have a multi-activity device.

Roomie remembers whenever it sends a Power Toggle and tracks any device as to whether it is on or off. If you start the System Off Activity, Roomie knows not to send a Power Toggle to a device that is already off. It just ignores the command and doesn't send it (unless you disable power tracking for a given device).

Thank you.

Thanks for the reply, I noticed the Track Toggled Power does not appear on one of my devices a Velodyne Sub, is this because it does offer a Discrete On and Off button as well as a Power Toggle? Unfortunately the Power Toggle only works with my Sub. The Velodyne model I chose from the DB was not an exact model match but still controlled all of the options I needed via IR, do I need to create a custom device to get the Power Toggle tracking working?

Yes, devices that have discrete power commands are not eligible for Power Tracking. Learning the codes for your model would be a way to accomplish that.

Thank you.

Thanks for the help I have this working now.

2013

Is it possible for me to control my system from outside my wifi area? ok am using the wi2ir unit from global cache.

Control from outside your network works the same way talking to anything inside your network does from remote. That is, it depends on your router and how you've configured everything.

We have used iVPN (macserve.org.uk/projects/ivpn/) successfully many times. It sets up a VPN server on a Mac Mini for instance in minutes. You then change one router setting to forward PPTP to that machine. There are many such apps and solutions out there, any competent VPN solution should work.

Note that most VPNs do not pass multicast traffic so while you will be able to control devices, setting up a new configuration is not likely to work remotely.

So I would setup iVPN on both my home iMac and my iPhone. Then connect to the 2 together, then I should be able to control my devices? Also, is there a way to use roomie via my iMac? Ideally i want to use automator to control lighting in my house based on a certain time.

iVPN is a Mac OS X app. On the iPhone side, you don't need anything. You just turn on the VPN functionality that is already built into iOS. Roomie requires iOS.

2013

With 2.0 (I don't think it was there before) the interface will now rotate on an iPhone.iPod touch. As someone who often uses a device in one hand, quickly grabbing it off the arm of the chair I've found this annoying since the interface shifts under my finger, throwing off the muscle memory I've built up for the common controls.

I realize not everyone uses the system the way I do so it would be nice to have preference to disable the rotation.

Thanks,

Russ

On iOS 7, the screen edge swipe gesture from the bottom of the screen brings up the Control Panel. That panel has a Rotation Lock option in it.

That's good to know. I don't think I have this option in IOS 6 which is what I'm stuck running on the older iPod touch I'm using most of the time. I've been considering updating to a newer model so maybe this will push me over the edge.

Thanks,

Russ

I have the same problem. Would be great if this could be disabled in roomie settings. i believe that the control panel locks rotation for all apps, so that is suboptimal, in my view

I agree. Maybe if there was a remote designer for landscape I would be ok, otherwise this needs to get turned off and it should not have to be a global phone setting, it should be a per remote or per device setting.

Indeed, this is quite distracting when using an iPod Touch/iPhone as a remote control.

Ideally only the Guide section should be able to change orientation.

The problem I have is Roomie now rotates on 90 degree increments instead of just 180 degrees. This means my DirecTV remote shows like 3 buttons instead of a dozen. It would be awesome if we could limit the rotation to the 180 degree rotation.

To prevent this issue, Roomie 2.1 provides an option for any Remote Design to prevent it from rotating to landscape orientation.

2013

Hi,

I have been using the remote for some time now and generally found it easy to set up etc. However I have a problem in that if I open two instances of the remote, e.g. one on an ipad mini and one on iPhone, the volume for my receiver only works on the first remote, it does not even appear on the second remote.



All setting are identical on both remotes, I have my receiver (Pioneer VSX-LX55) a boxee box and SkyHD. Same issue watching either.



It's probably something very obvious but couldn't find any reference to it in searches so any help would be appreciated.



Thanks

Pretty much all receivers work that way via IP although there are some exceptions. More recent 2011+ Denons have a workaround for that over IP as described in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

Sony's DN1030 also does not have that issue although it has other issues like no volume feedback over IP.

The only true solution to that for Pioneer is to go with Serial control instead of IP control as Pioneer simply limits IP control to 1 connection. The IP2SL/WF2FL get around that by allowing multiple connections.

Okay, Thanks very much for the swift response.



Jonny

I'm happy to report that my Onkyo 616 has no problem processing volume signals from two different iDevices.

2013

Congrats on a fantastic update. So many enhancements. Thanks!

On my iPhone, everything's great, but a little less so on my iPad.

• On the iPad, when I switch to my AppleTV activity, it doesn't see my Yamaha RX-V573 receiver, so I can't control the volume. (This was never an issue before 2.0.) For good measure, I forced a dropbox backup from the iPhone, then restored that to the iPad, but no change. The iPad just doesn't see the receiver. (See screenshot -- upper image.)

• I like the way we can swipe the two rows of activities to the left, which makes more room for the remotes. However, in that configuration:

(a) When viewing the AppleTV remote, which has few buttons, a lot of space is taken up, to the right, by a large, gray rectangle, which looks out of place -- as if a guide would reside there. But there is no guide in this case. So it looks odd. And…

(b) When viewing the DirecTV remote, which has far more buttons, the display is asymmetrical.

(See screenshot -- upper and lower.)

A comedy of errors. 3rd try...

I'm also seeing this as an issue. Roomie 2.0 and yamaha v573.

great update though.

For the Apple TV activity, check the Volume Control setting to make sure it is set to your receiver. Also, that looks like an old Remote Design without the latest buttons. You may want to either hit Reset Design on that or set the Remote Design to None. Either will update the Virtual Remote to the current version.

The empty guide area for an Apple TV activity is typically filled with an associated iTunes Media Guide. If no iTunes is associated with the Activity as set in the 'iTunes Device' of the Activity, it will be blank. We could certainly remove it in that scenario.

The centering of the DirecTV does look off in that screenshot. It might correct itself if you rotate to Portrait and back. Either way, we'd suggest updating the Remote Design for that one as well. You can always access Gestures by pinching, but the buttons and naming are also from 1.X.

2013

If the operation you want is not available on your physical remote and not available in Roomie's command set, it is likely the discrete command doesn't exist.

In the event you were to find such a discrete command on the net somewhere for instance, it could be added to Roomie using the DDK:

Roomie Remote Support

The physical remote allows switching inputs but it's relative to the input you are on. To go from HDMI3 to HDMI1 I click "Input", "Up", "Up", "Select".

However I won't know what input I am currently on to program this? I'm assuming other TV's allow input switching more seemlessly?

Input switching was a major feature I was hoping to use this for. I'll read thru the customDevice FAQ but I'm assuming this won't help?

When I click "Input" on the Test Remote there are "Antenna", "AV1", thru "AV8" but none of these change the input on my TV.

Sounds like I'm stuck?



Thanks for any advice

I guess if my physical remote doesn't have a "HDMI1" button? Is that what you were referencing?

Yes. In other words, if Philips didn't manufacture the TVs to understand such discrete codes, and they didn't put them on your remote, then nothing can be done. The best hope would be that they may have made the TV understand them but not put them on your remote. Contacting Philips may be one course of action.

This is all a little greek to me but I found this that I thought might help me? I don't understand some of the terms so I was wondering if they made sense to you? (t mentions HDMI but then don't see the option in the list. Sorry to bother...



Discrete Remote Codes for zapping to extensions
The TV shall support discrete RC5 commands to directly zap to any extension (including Front/Side, HDMI,...).

Rationale: Users (& special dealers) have to be able to make special applications with our TVs and they want to be able to select directly certain functions, like direct selection of externals, screen formats etc. (so direct RC codes).

The commands:
RC5 3,05 and 3,58 Side/Front
RC5 3,04: Ext1
RC5 0,57: Ext2
RC5 3,56: Ext3
RC5 3,57: Ext4
RC5 3,123: Ext5
RC5 3,06: Ext6
RC5 3,07: Ext7
RC5 3,08: Ext8

Remark: The extension numbers above refer to all inputs of all regions - the exact connector depends on connectivity configuration

Do you have an original URL for that info? We feel like we're missing context reading that.

supportforum.philips.com/en/ ... mote-Codes

I'm not knowledgeable enough to decipher it, but I thought it might hold some promise to helping my situation. Thanks for looking at it.

All of the discrete codes on that thread are already in our main library. They are labelled "INPUT AV1" through "INPUT AV8". Have you tried all of those?

Yes, I tried all options on that screen. The one that ...

2012

Question: Roomie app will lose ip control with my denon avr 1913 reciever for unknown reasons. Sometimes it will stay connected for days, others for a couple hours. I have a strange suspicion the problem lies with other devices getting on and off of my network. If i simply unplug the receiver from the wall and plug it back in the problem is fixed. All the while the denon app for the receiver never loses ip connection. Is there anything i can do on my end to keep this from happening as it is a hassle to...

2012

Question: I am performing the initial setup of Roomie. Most everything works fine. However, when I attempt to add a new device, my Pioneer VSX-30 Receiver looses IP connectivity after 1-2 minutes of roomie scanning for network devices. I have to pull the power from the receiver to get it to respond via IP again. This is very repeatable. If roomie doesn't try to scan, then the receiver never goes down.

Staff response: That's a well-known issue with that older generation of VSX models from 2010. We have a test VSX-33 here that will reliably crash just by plugging the Ethernet cord in. It's the same issue. Basically any kind of DLNA/UPnP activity causes those early models to crash.

There is a firmware bug, but updating the firmware on that model is very difficult and requires sending it to one of only a handful of authorized service centers. You would need to contact Pioneer for more information. We recommend adding the receiver and then not scanning for it again as that's certainly going to be easier than trying to get it fixed. OTOH as we identify in the compatibility list, the VSX-30 also doesn't support Network Standby, so you might want to use more infrared for basic control and mix it with IP just for volume perhaps.

2012

I added the device using manual IP on port 80, but the remote does not work.

It does however work when i use the auto detect version of AVR Series Zone 1

I manually set the IP address on the router and it hasnt ever changed.

Can someone help?

Perhaps the command set selected when adding via Manual IP was incorrect. The port 80 manual IP set is named "AVR Series IP Zone 1". We presume you're using these instructions:

Roomie Remote Support

If the issue continues, we recommend contacting support so we can look at your configuration.

I got it to work. I realized that the existing IP linkup was blocking the new port 80 from going through.

I was able to get feedback on the source, volume and sound mode, but no additional feedback with the AVR Series IP Zone version. In fact i got more feedback from the original version, being able to navigate pandora and viewing music information. Was album art supposed to work in one or the other version?

A very big downside is a number of input commands do not work, in particular, Blueray, cable, network and pandora. This puts a serious limitation on the ability to leverage the receiver's capability to watch 2 different HDMI sources from 2 different TVs.

With the lack of these functions and the limited feedback, I decided to go back to the original codes. Although it limits me to only one remote at a time, the bigger downside of not being able to use my units pretty much points to going with the original code.

Is there a way we can fix the codes being transmitted for the AVR Series IP so that the source input works for the future?

Thanks, and feedback would be much obliged!

Sounds like the 3313 has issues with the alternate command set. The default command set as you noted works fine with the 3313, but we have not tried the alternate command set. We recommend contacting support so we can get a Collect Diagnostics result from your receiver and add the appropriate input names.

2012

Just started using roomie and I have a few questions.

1) I cannot see my shows on the remote under "Current Show" with my DirecTV reciever how can I fix this?

2)How can I use Anynet+ to turn on my TV ( I have a samsung D6420 and a pioneer reciever ) ?

If you need more information please let me know! Thanks for the help!

~Kevin

There is no field labelled "Current Show" so we're not sure what you are referring to. Make sure you are using an Activity not just a Remote. The Tutorial video on the right side of this page is a great place to start learning about Roomie.

Anynet+ rarely works. If it works for you, you should definitely feel lucky. There is one scenario we know of that works and that is with the latest Onkyo receivers. While there may be more, we would suggest always using IR with any Samsung.

When i click on directv activity it comes up with 3 boxes at the bottom of the remote that are supposed to show the current show, channel, and episode. These boxes are blank. How can i fix this?

Have you turned on Whole Home Control on the DirecTV box? Which model are you using?

That fixed it! Thank You!

2012

Hi, I just started programming roomie. My first supported device, tv, works perfectly. I moved on to my Dish VIP-222 and have had no luck. I am using an emitter (with IP2IR) and it is blinking when I issue a command. I have tried all "all model ir address" settings and all retransmit counts. No luck. Has anyone successfully set one of these up? Are there any known issues? Any help appreciated.

Those units need a Retransmit Count of 2. Also, many Dish devices are not configured for infrared control. There are settings on the Dish box itself with regards to the IR address and whether IR is even turned on and those need to match up with what you select in Roomie.

Thank you for the fast response! I'll dig through the Dish menus and see if I can't figure it out. Is there a specific IR address that goes with that model?

Got it! Thanks for the help. In case anyone else is stuck, here is what I found that worked.

When trying to control a Dish Network Satellite box, there are two things to make sure are ready:
1. The Dish Network box is setup to be controlled through IR (and thus not RF)
2. The Remote Address of the Dish Network box is set to 1-8.

CHANGING THE REMOTE CONTROL ADDRESS
If you start doing this procedure and then do not press any button
for 20 seconds, the remote will end the procedure. Just start over again.

1. Press the Sys Info button on the Dish receiver to display the
Important System Information menu.
Note the Remote Address shown on this menu.

2. Using the original Dish Network remote, Press and hold the Sat Mode
button until all the mode button backlights come on
(it takes about three seconds).
Release the Sat mode button.

3. Use the number buttons to enter the number 1-8 that you want to use.

The Sat mode button backlight will blink off after you enter

each digit, and then come on again.

4. Press the Pound button. If the address you entered is valid for
the remote control, the Sat mode button backlight flashes three times.

5. Press the Record button. The Remote Address on the
Important System Information Screen menu should match
the one you entered.

6. To check the address, press and hold the Sat mode button for
three seconds. Then press the Pound button twice.
The Sat mode button backlight flashes the same number of
times as the address.

7. Press the Select button.

8. You can now program the corresponding remote address for your remote!

2012

Good afternoon,

I have 2 devices that I own that don't appear to be IP supportable by Roomie. The first one is a cable box - RNG110. However, I have a Comcast Android and iPhone app that allows me to control it. This makes me think that it SHOULD be controllable by Roomie. Any chance that this is added?

My second device is an Oppo Blue-ray. I have read that Oppo will be adding IP control this summer. Any word on the timing of that, and how long afterwards would it be available from Roomie?

Thanks in advance,

René

Hello schmidrj1960,
I have the comcast cable box also with my HT system and I always leave my box on. I intend to use it the same way with roomie.

Hi Blue....Meanie,

How will you change channels? IR? Since I have an app on my phone (provided by Comcast) to change channels, I would think that means that IP control should be available. Could be that the details aren't published so Roomie can't use it without reverse engineering....

We do anticipate looking into this. However, as with UVerse boxes, we expect an extreme level of reverse engineering to be required. The existence of an app, like the existence of an Ethernet port, does not imply the existence of IP control. Many examples abound of basically faux IP control. For instance, the TiVo 3 series has an app, but it doesn't even talk to the unit. It talks to their website instead.

Many of the regular cable boxes don't actually use IP control. They're based on a Microsoft server platform like U-Verse that talks to a server rather than the box and the server has a limited way to relay communications to the box. It's a huge hack.

We're not sure yet which category the 110 falls into, but just know that an app is not always an indicator of real IP control.

The Oppo people indicated they'd release the protocol shortly after they release IP control. We may not wait for them to publish that if we can reverse it quickly. We wont know until it happens and we can analyze it.

@ Roomie,

Just curious if there is any update on this to be able to control the RNG110 (or any other Comcast set top) via IP control?

I am also interested in any update on the rng110. Thx

Hope to see this soon also! :slight_smile:

(Moved this thread from Configuration to Feature Requests)

2012

A neighbor of mine loves my system, and wants help setting up a similar one. He is starting from scratch, buying everything new (except iPhones and iPads). Since this will be adding a system to a house without prewiring, it is going to be difficult to hide the equipment like mine. Ideally, I’d like most stuff to be controlled via IP (especially since everything is going to be new). Getting Cat5 to the devices won’t be difficult, but to the TVs will be. Are there any displays that support power on/off via Wifi IP signal?

Also what blu-ray players and amps power on and off with IP signal?

For Televisions with pure IP, Sharp and Panasonic are the way to go. Sharp has had it for a while and they even advertise it and have a logo for it, so it's a really safe choice. Meanwhile, Panasonic just introduced Wake on LAN support in their 2012 models. (The next version of Roomie directly supports that.) We're not sure exactly which models support that and which don't, but we know the GT series has it for 2012, and we know the E5 way down at the bottom end of their line does not. It's right there in the menus so if you have access to a set, you can always check.

Elite (elitelcdtv.com) is another choice -- they're really sort of a Sharp rebrand.

For pure IP controlled Blu-ray Players, Panasonic is the gold standard. The BDT-220 would be a great choice.

As far as the Panasonics, I read on some forum that the GT50 has Wake on Lan as you suggest, but the ST50 does not.

How would one setup "Wake on LAN" for the GT50 series?

See page 57 of service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMAN ... P_GT50.PDF

2012

RS232/Serial Control

Thread provides RS232 command information for controlling the Classe SSP-800 / CT-SSP audio processor through serial control integration with Roomie Remote.

2022

Question: Can anyone comment on the actual length of a Simple Cable - 3.5mm Serial cable? It is not listed in the item details on the store.

Can anyone comment on their use of a Simple Cable - 12' and 25' Extension with the Simple Cable - 3.5mm Serial Cable? The use of extension cables with the 3.5 mm serial cable is not listed in item details on the store.

It seems that it should works, but I would like to get some confirmation before I place my order as I have to contend with the cost of getting the i...

Staff response: The extension cables are for infrared emitter cables. So basically you would use those almost exclusively with the Triport Adapter. They need on both sides to plug into an infrared jack like those on the Triport Adapter and super old units like the original iTach series. Definitely they are not serial cables.

Added 6' to the product page.

2018

I am not able to control my Sony TA-E9000ES receiver via RS232 on my GC-100. I have another Sony receiver STR-DA7ES and I am able to control it fine. Both are Sony ES receivers listed as compatible.

Thanks

The TA-9000ES looks like something from 2002 or before. We wouldn't be surprised if it's expecting something different per the note at the bottom of the compatibility page things over 10 years old or so we don't try to track further back than that. Brief searching for that model online indicates the RS232 port only allows firmware updates.

Thanks for the prompt reply. Your product support is top notch.

I was curious about the TA-E9000ES because the RS232 port on both of these Sony models (STR-DA7ES & TA-E9000ES) is designed for software updates. However, I am able to control the STR-DA7ES with the serial port and I assumed the TA-E9000ES had the same capability. Any possibility of adding serial control of this receiver in the future? It is old, but it is one of the best preamps Sony has ever produced.

BTW your IR codes for Sony TAE receivers do not work with the TA-E9000ES either.

Thanks again. Roomie Remote (along with a Global Cache controller) is the product I have always been searching for. Nice job.

If you have tried the Sony "Binary Serial Protocol" command set, that is the old set. If that doesn't work, we would say that model just does not support serial control.

2012

Custom Device Definitions

Is there some place where I can find a sample of a custom IR command that I can use as a template? Are they in HEX code or Global Cache? How are the commands formatted?

Staff response: Yes. Documented here:

https://roomieremote.com/support/add-custom-device/

Thanks Will thats what I was looking for. Just to confirm since I'm using Global Cache my IR command will start with "38000". I don't need to add "sendir" with the IR port location. Correct?

Staff response: The intricacies of talking to the iTach are handled by Roomie. Just enter the clean code in either format as per the DDK.

2024

Upgraded my Tivo to 360 software and its working perfect from the new remote controller.

The IP address remains the same but the box no longer responds to anything from Roomie. Presumably a totally different codeset; 'auto discover' doesn't find it and there's nothing appearing in the 'add manually' to suggest it's in any way supported.

I had to create a pool for another device in the early days so I'm hopeful someone has a list of the IP commands needed to create and add manually in the config. It's a fairly common box in the UK, getting more common so hopefully there is some information out there.

Staff response: The screenshots I found on the website don't look like TiVo. It looks like that is an infrared box. Apparently the brand of the OEM box they use is Ziggo and I do see code sets for that in our library.

2022

Question: Trying to send http command that has json payload and needs the payload in the body like in the ddk example below. With the new custom device option in the app, is there a way to add a carriage return so that roomie sees it as the body option as below? The key in the app is Done when editing the line so it won't insert a CR. Should I just do this on a mac?
\t\t\t
My goal device command (would be entered in app custom device)

<key>CONFIG 0</key>
<string>POST /devices/0/config/post.sc...

Staff response: Getting detailed encoding correct in a text field when you need exacting control over each byte is not likely to be the best path. You should import/export for changes and use Xcode or BBEdit as per the DDK to ensure proper encoding.

2021

Question: Hi Roomie Team -

For my family, I have a remote activity for each member with a custom guide assigned for each member. I would like to share the same design across all of the members though.

In the the earlier versions of Roomie Remote, you could have custom designs that could be used for multiple activities.

Will the custom/shareable design ever be an option for v6 and beyond?

If you have any questions or concerns, let me know.

Staff response: Duplicate Activity covers most cases of this. In what way does Duplicate Activity not work for this scenario? (other than the fact you probably have to copy a few other commands to adapt to a new room)

Offhand, that has a fair chance of failure because the buttons might have device tags. OTOH once you're at that level, such tags are also trivial to change. So I guess sure.

2020

Can anyone explain to me how the SONOS .Tranport Set Et all work - I am trying to start a specific pandora station -

Staff response: 1. Start a Sonos Media Activity.
2. Start the content you want to trigger later. (eg. Play a Pandora station)
3. Edit something with commands such as a button on your design or an Inline Activity.
4. Add the .TRANSPORT SET command to the playing Sonos device.
4. If you performed the above 4 steps correctly, it will autofill with the correct parameters based on what is playing.

Perfect - worked great - thank you

2018

I have an IR-controlled homemade electric screen masking system that is currently controlled via an iTach. I plan to transfer control of it to a Simple Blaster I will soon purchase. The masking system has a 4-button physical remote control that I will use to teach the Simple Blaster the codes.

The masking system remote is pretty old, and I fear at some point the buttons will stop transmitting. Is there any way to view and save (to a file) the actual IR codes that are assigned to each of the four buttons?

Ultimately, I'm looking for a way to back up these codes so that I am not dependent on the remote control to transmit them. My thinking is that if I had them in a file, on my Mac, I could import the codes into the Simple Blaster (or other hardware device) if the remote should stop working. Is that possible?

I'm open to other ideas on how to back up the codes; thanks in advance for help/tips.

Scott

Staff response: These topics are covered in the Knowledge Base:

And DDK:

The short answer is "yes".

Thanks for the responses. Pardon my basic questions as I am by not means an expert with this stuff, but in reading the articles, it sounds like I need to use iLearn and an iTach to do this. Is that correct? I'll read up on this and perhaps make an attempt and will report back. Sounds like this could be a challenge.

Staff response: iLearn is a super obscure way of doing this only intended for extremely complex cases. In general, IR learning is built-in and works great for ~98% of devices – it's quite rare that a device is not already part of the library, but lets just assume in this case perhaps it is not. However, IR is a complex topic with quite a few variations on the fringes. Depending on your device, it could require tools that go beyond the internal IR learning. Certainly, you should start by using the built-in IR learning in the Simple Blaster with SC 5. Then follow the steps in the KB article.

2017

HomeKit & Siri

As the title says, is this a possible direction the app could head in?

We have every intention to lead the way on integrating HomeKit. It is too early to say much more, but certainly we feel there is no app better positioned to take advantage of HomeKit than Roomie.

The only disappointing pitfall is doesnt the device have to support apples protocol?

I am guessing roomie could only offer home kit functionality such as siri with devices the are supporting apple such as hue? Meaning any sort of automation with my samsung tv, or other lighting system wont be able to take advantage of homekit?

Unless Roomie itself is a device.

There are just way too many unanswered questions at this point, but it's safe to say we'll be looking into this deeply.

Will you be turning on Family Sharing?

We think we already turned that on, but there's no way to see it until you're running iOS 8. As we already provide instructions in the FAQ for making that work today more or less, there's little to no difference for us in enabling it other than to make the same thing people do today easier.

Has roomie had any more information on how homekit might work with roomie, preferably as a device itself?

developer.apple.com/homekit/

All we're sure of is that we'll certainly be providing HomeKit support for sending commands to devices. Becoming a device is a much more complicated effort that almost certainly requires us to provide an actual hardware piece. Which is something we might do.

2014

Alexa

Simple Control released an Alexa Smart Home Skill (separate from the Custom Skill) for Simple Hub 4.5.8+. Users must contact support for beta instructions and have the existing Simple Control Alexa skill working first.

Key features and examples of voice commands:
- Launch activities with opening devices: "Alexa, turn on the Living Room"
- Open specific apps: "Alexa, turn on Office DISH" (opens Watch DISH in the Office)
- Control specific devices: "Alexa, turn on Living Room TiVo" (opens Watch TiVo in Living Room)
- Volume control with device scaling: "Alexa, set the Bedroom Receiver to 25%" (sets volume to -55.5 for Denon); "Alexa, set Kitchen Sonos to 60"
- Power commands: "Alexa, turn off the Bedroom" (runs first Power Off activity); "Alexa, turn off the Office DISH 1" (sends POWER OFF command)

Both the Smart Home Skill and Custom Skill can work together for complementary voice control functionality.

2017

Integration information for Amazon Echo Plus with Roomie Remote hub functionality from late 2017 era.

2017

Home Automation Hubs

Problem: ISY994 Insteon support requires the Insteon 2413S serial PLM (Power Line Modem), which is discontinued by Insteon with non-existent availability. The 2413S is prone to failure after approximately 3 years, making it unreliable for long-term use. This means ISY994 integration with Roomie Remote is no longer viable for most users.

Recommended Solution: Migration to Home Assistant (HA) automation controller
- Home Assistant can manage Insteon devices via the 2413U (USB) instead of serial
- 2413U is a current product with ample stock availability and better reliability than 2413S
- Home Assistant supports two methods for sending commands: HTTP and WebSocket

Integration Options with Roomie:
1. HTTP Method: Home Assistant has a REST API at https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/api/rest/ that can be used via Roomie's Custom Code Set Editor without requiring native Roomie integration
2. WebSocket Method: Alternative approach using DDK (Developer Kit) for more direct integration
3. Insteon Cloud: Roomie still includes support for Insteon Cloud (https://connect.insteon.com), though usage is unclear. Staff is considering removal unless users request retention.

Status: No native Home Assistant integration is currently planned for Roomie. Users can achieve integration through REST API calls using the Custom Code Set Editor.

2022

Looking for input on which tvs integrate the best, and if any provide volume feedback (i don't think they do but just checking). Mostly this is for smaller or non-critical viewing tvs in areas where you wouldn't have a receiver so it might be just a stand alone tv or a simple setup where the tv would run the volume. I have an lg oled, a couple of recent 43" small tcl roku tvs, and a samsung 32". In the compatibility it looks like the lg and sony have the most support since they show app media guide and app launching. Curious overall which tvs people have the best satisfaction with, of course discrete power on/off without too much hassle, and if there are any with volume feedback supported. Thanks for your input!

2019

Staff response: Simple-Hub-Inactivity-Trigger.groovy (4.1 KB)
Just wanted to get this out there. This is a small modification to the existing SmartThings SmartApp for running Activities based on motion. This script is sort of the reverse of that. This script runs Activities based on inactivity from a given motion detector for a period of time. So if you leave the room for 30 minutes for instance, you could have your Lutron lights turn off or other maintenance type actions for an inactive room.

Just add this to your SmartThings account like the other apps in the integration pack. It is not a replacement, it's a separate/new app.

2017

Hello All,

I was just wondering how do I create a Trigger to monitor a switch on Smartthings? It is strange because the only thing that comes up for me is Nest and Vera.

Thank You,

Kevin Schwartz

Staff response: SmartThings Triggers are setup inside SmartThings per the SmartThings Integration doc, the latest version of which is always available here:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... up-guides/

2016

What would I need to send IR ON/OFF to my projector via smartthings? I'm looking to control about 5 components.

Staff response: SmartThings -> triggers Simple Sync

Simple Sync and Simple Service are needed for that. Setup details in our SmartThings Setup Pack.

store.simplecontrol.com/featured ... -sync.html

Or Simple Hub:

store.simplecontrol.com/featured ... e-hub.html

2016

I'm new to Roomie want to add a Z-wave controller but I'm not sure if I should go with a Vera model or a Smartthings Smart Hub. I know that the Smartthings route requires the Roomie Agent but I'm fine with that. I'm just looking for the most reliable solution. The Vera looks good except I see so much complaining about the UI7 stuff. Is it really that bad? I want something at least fairly reliable (I know it won't be RadioRa2 reliable given it is a fraction of the price).

For some background, I'm starting by converting my home theater lighting from an old Grafik Eye (non-radioRa) to Zwave so I can add more zones and get better wireless control. I'd also like to add more Z-wave features around the house.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Can't comment on your other z-wave needs but you can probably control your Grafik-Eye thru Roomie. I have a Spacer system with remote 4 scene controls which I added to Roomie by running an emitter thru the wall and up to the back of the remote switch. I know Roomie has a bunch of code sets for Grafik Eye.

You are right, I can control my Grafik Eye with Roomie but I want to switch away from Grafik Eye so I can add other Zwave integration in the house. Plus, I presently have 4 zones and want to add two more. That means redoing my Grafik Eye setup and it would be easier and cheaper to switch to individual Z-wave dimmers.

Have you looked into ISY? It is supported by Roomie and can control Zwave devices and, most importantly, it's extremely powerful. Bit of a learning curve though.

2015

Third-Party Apps & Services

Question: Hey,

I am currently looking for motorised blinds that is compatible with roomie. I have come across Somfy from the compatibility list, however Somfy mylink have been discontinued for some time. I was wondering whether I can get confirmation that roomie would still work for Somfy Tahoma or Connexoon, the replacement for mylink.

Staff response: We do not have test devices for those, so no idea. It either will work as a Somfy myLink, or you may need to add as a Custom Device.

If you send them to us, we'll take a look. That's why I suggest adding them as a Custom Device. It's totally unnecessary for us to have these in order to add them in the general case.

Protocol document for the device you are trying to control.

We don’t support this device. It’s not in the compatibility list. Getting the information on how to talk to the device may require talking to the manufacturer or other information gathering.

Going back to your original question in OP, the answer to best and most controllable shades is obviously Lutron. Highly recommended whether you go Serena or one of the higher end systems. I have not encountered a Somfy new customer in many years.

Somfy myLink works well. It's a piece of hardware, it doesn't get updated to whatever product you're using. It will continue to work and thus is a valid entry on the compatibility list.

HomeKit Shades and Lutron Shades are the best choices in this area. These other things you're talking about are distractions.

2024

Question: Is there support for the Eversolo streamer/dacs? They are made by Zidoo.

Staff response: Does it have an API? Or it might just use the same one as Zidoo.

2024

Question: Just wondering if there is any planned support for the Vision Pro? Also, I noticed that the iPad app is not in the store on the Vision Pro that would certainly do the trick to any reason that is not in the store?

Staff response: I didn't turn it on for the store because I don't know it works. Roomie is far more deeply integrated into almost everything than most apps, so it is much safer to verify it before throwing it on the store and hoping for the best.

Remember that Apple gave actual Mac minis with an M1 chip to developers for 6 months to ensure that was a successful transition. Meanwhile, developers were unable to get any Vision Pro devices. You could spend a few hours at an Apple facility with some guards watching you, and that's it. So it will be a while before lots of apps are ready for it.

I have one. I love it. Will we get Roomie working on it? I am not sure yet, it's a lot of work to do it right. We'll likely do something though. The core use case of "control your TV" when you're looking through a digitized screen is a little weird. But other use cases like looking at your video cameras seem compelling.

After some basic testing, I'm comfortable enough with them now that I have activated all of our main apps including Roomie for the Vision Pro App Store. They are the iPad-compatible apps for now.

2024

Hi All, I am a new user and first time poster! So far I am loving the app as I have been looking a good application to control and automate my smart devices.

I do not know if this is the proper way to request or recommend integrations but I have all of my builder grade blinds retrofitted with Sunsa wands. They appear to be a company open to integration opportunities. If I have missed this request my apologies. I think this would be great addition to the platform!

2023

New to Simple Control but I am loving the ability to finally integrate all my devices with this platform. I do have a question though - I have hydronic floor heat with 8 zones and have them controlled with Lux Thermostats. These are Wifi enabled devices and would seem like a good candidate for integration but it doesn’t look like Lux has much in the way of partnerships aside from Google Play and Amazon Alexa control. Like most of the WiFi thermostat platforms, it looks like this one is cloud based - any plans on the Simple Control integration roadmap for Lux devices? For reference, these are Lux Geo thermostats - the more expensive Lux Kona thermostats are HomeKit enables but swapping all the Geo’s out for Kona’s would cost me over $1,000 so I’m hoping to avoid that. Thanks!

2018

Question: Dropbox recently announced the end of life for the API used by many products to integrate with them including all old versions of Simple Control and Roomie Remote.

In V5, we no longer use Dropbox, so we have already migrated away and therefore this is not a concern for current users. For those users still on any older release, the Simple Service Backup option is one alternative already part of the older releases.

Please plan to migrate away from Dropbox as your backup solution before the end ...

Staff response: Dropbox recently announced the end of life for the API used by many products to integrate with them including all old versions of Simple Control and Roomie Remote.

In V5, we no longer use Dropbox, so we have already migrated away and therefore this is not a concern for current users. For those users still on any older release, the Simple Service Backup option is one alternative already part of the older releases.

Please plan to migrate away from Dropbox as your backup solution before the end of the year. You can simply copy a Dropbox Backup (the set of files plus images folder if applicable) to your iCloud Simple Control folder, and Restore from iCloud using V5 as one good solution if you need to restore. Also remember that installing V5 alongside V4 does not require any backup/restore. The V4 configuration is automatically adopted and upgraded by V5.

Dropbox just extended this shutoff time to February 1, 2018 at 9:00am PST.

Simple Service Backup is already there as an alternate if the device needs to stay on 4.5. It does have some limitations though. For instance, it did not support custom image insertion and a few other things. I would plan to upgrade to V5 as soon as possible beyond that.

To have file access to your backup to perform such things as adding new code sets, you will need to use iCloud which is supported in V5 per above.

2017

Question: Could you please add support for Roon from Roonlabs? Roon is quickly becoming one of the favourite Computer Audio players including hardware support from several audio brands. They already have their own iOS app for controlling Roon but it would be great to be able to control from one remote inside Simplecontrol.

Staff response: Why is this relevant to Roomie? I went to their website and at least in 30 seconds still am not sure what their product is that would be relevant to the kinds of devices we support. I didn't see any hardware at all offhand. What am I missing?

Does that make sense???

Nope. Is it software, hardware, or a streaming service? Anyway, safe to say if their product is this incomprehensible, they have some work to do before we need to look at it. I would suggest treating this as a Custom Device and using our extensive APIs for that if you would like basic integration in the short term.

2016

Note that we do currently have support for door locks through both SmartThings and Vera. I believe ISY likely works for that as well.

2016

I have Control4 in my house - unfortunately.

I have an HC-300 controller and a multi-zone amp.

I'm not looking to hack into the Composer software that C4 uses. All of the lighting controls programmed into the controller work fine and I'm happy to keep that side of the system up and running. But component control via Control4 blows.

Can I either:

A) Separate the amp (which is good quality) from the controller and use Roomie to directly control the audio zones for power and source?

or

B) If need be, keep the amp connected to the controller and use Roomie as a Control4 remote?

The HC-300 controller does have serial as well as ethernet. The amp is only ethernet. And I assume they talk to one another with Zigbee as well.

Thanks

Kyle,

I'm with you. Would love to veer away from Control4 in any way possible.

I'm in the same boat. A solution involving the Almond+ router would be ideal.

From what it looks like, Almond+ is exactly what we're looking for. I guess we'll find out for sure this Fall.

I still need to crack their proprietary IP controls for the amp. I am pretty sure it can be done. Just haven't taken the time to do it yet.

2012

General

Question: So, this is a question/suggestion, Hopefully, it belongs in this topic.

In V9, the homekit related Homebar icons have been replaced with homekit "style" icons. I know nothing about the interface that supports importing the homekit devices to Roomie, but is it possible to "import" the device icons that have been selected in Homekit rather than use the "generic" icons for each device?

Jeff

Staff response: The HomeKit API hasn't changed since basically 2016, so anything you see in Apple's Home app like colors, TVs, speakers, really anything except the original devices, is just a setting invisible to other apps. Anyway, if you want to customize an icon for a device or some people in the past have asked to change category from switch to light for example, that's something we'd have to provide a feature for in Roomie directly.

Which icons would you want to use for this? Are they already in the library?

We already do this for Philips Hue. There are 50 or so special Hue icons that we swap in based on the Hue model type. If there are not that many cases of this, we could do this in a pre-defined way.

Let's just start with which icons you want. New icons, existing icons? Where are they?

Community reply: In Apple’s Home app, I can edit my power strip switch controlling a fan and use Display As “Fan” and then click the icon to choose one of three HomeKit fan icons (tall standing fan, regular fan, or ceiling fan). In Roomie v9, this fan appears in the home bar under a standard switch category icon as a standard switch. I think that under Devices / Advanced, there should be an option to choose from a standard library of icons under a hierarchal menu divided by switch and sensor types such as Lights, Fans & HVAC, Irrigation & Plumbing, Security, Windows & Doors, Audio & Video, etc. I’m not sure where you should pull those icons from since HomeKit doesn’t fully implement this advanced icon editing itself since it doesn’t allow me to properly edit the icon for a switch controlling my backyard irrigation. I also use HomeAssistant and it contains a large icon library that can be used to assign almost any switch into any category— of course, AV control in HomeAssistant is not nearly as functional as what Roomie offers. I do use HomeAssistant to bridge a plethora of disparate technologies to make them available as HomeKit compatible. I’ve also used HomeBridge for this purpose at another location previously.

I'm only asking about the specific icons. I assume the set below, which is what we offer for fans and should I believe include every fan related icon from the Home app, would be sufficient.

Note that the request of changing accessory category is a different thing. Might get to that.

There are 3 HomeKit related things on my list right now in no particular order:

1. Allow user selection of icons from our library (such as the fan icons below) for each HK accessory. We already provide these icons, just not the ability to change a specific accessory.
2. Allow user change of HomeKit category from say Switch to Light.
3. Provide full access/control over HomeKit accessories accessible on Primary from devices not related to the Primary iCloud/HomeKit Apple ID. (in other words, relay for HomeKit).

Community reply: Some specific icons that are currently missing for ...

2024

How do I add my Lyngdorf integrated amp as a custom device. I used the custom device feature but I don’t know the correct protocol

Do you have a list of the IP commands from Lyngdorf that you want to use? You also need the IP address of the Lyngdorf, including the port #. It’s best to set this as a static IP address. First you manually add the Lyngdorf in Devices, then you go into the custom commands and add the Command name as you want it to appear on the Roomie interface, along with the actual IP command text, which you need to get from Lyngdorf. There are very good instructions on how to do both of these actions in the user guide.

2023

Question: Between 2472 and 2474, the font and icon sizes seem to have been reduced. The number of "slots" and spacing in the activity panels hasn't changed, but the text and icon sizes have. I've attached two screenshots to compare. One from build 2472 and one from build 2474 with the smaller sizes. I much prefer the larger sizes. It's much clearer.

Staff response: Can't you change the design to go Large if you want that? Your screenshots show icons way smaller than I'm looking at on an iPad next to me. So maybe you already did make some Design change. Also try resetting your Design.

Of course things "changed". Thousands of things changed. That's not relevant. I'm not sure what the relevant question is here. Basically there is a Default, Small, and Large mode. They should present generally different appearances. If you're not seeing that, it would be inconsistent. Beyond that, yes a lot of size issues were fixed recently.

Small things getting smaller when in Small mode sounds good. As long as Large is larger and ideally Default provides an in-between but generally will be either Small or Large.

The D button was already fixed in 8.0.1, I don't see any other issue here.

That's a matter of you understanding how flow promotion works. There is your design, and then there are the aspects of flow promotion that happen on top of that design. One thing that happens in a full activity with flow promotion is that, as mentioned in the release notes, the function buttons get promoted. There are other differences as well.

It never did. It shows the core layout of the buttons you designed. What happens when we actually lay out an activity involves a ton of additional things. For example, the layout between iPhone and iPad is completely different. Many other examples.

Design. Layout. Two different things. Always has been.

2022

Issue: Apple TV 4K first generation lost all control capability when upgraded to tvOS 15 beta, despite working perfectly on iOS 15 beta 3. Other Apple TV 4K devices on tvOS 14.7 continued to work normally. Multiple users reported the same issue (e.g., 3 Apple TV devices with only those on tvOS 15 beta losing control functionality).

Staff Response (Will_Price):
- Beta compatibility issues appear every Summer and are typically not prioritized until the final September release
- tvOS betas often have broken functionality that becomes irrelevant in subsequent builds
- Major feature development takes priority over minor beta-specific fixes during summer months
- Minor fixes for beta issues typically appear in TestFlight beta program before point releases
- Roomie maintains an active TestFlight beta program and private beta forums (accessible via PM request)

Key Context: This is expected behavior with OS betas. Staff recommends waiting for the final September release rather than spending development resources on temporary beta issues.

2021

Discussion of unexpected Alexa behavior changes when integrating with Roomie Remote. Users reporting behavioral anomalies with Alexa-controlled devices.

2021

I've had my Mac running as a primary controller without issues for years... until I recently upgraded to Big Sur, v11.6. I always have multiple desktops open and the Roomie App, v7.0.2 is on Desktop 1. If you leave the focus on any desktop other than Desktop 1 where Roomie is running and then try and start an activity, nothing happens. The same behaviour you get if your MAC is in sleep mode (which is expected), only its not in sleep mode, its just not on the desktop where Roomie is running. As soon as you swipe over to Desktop 1, then try launching the Activity again from your iPhone, it works. Swipe back to say, full screen Safari or Mail and you get the red banner on your phone advising of lost connectivity to controller.

Anybody seen this?

Staff response: Have covered this so many times.

Page 20. Page 64. And everywhere else. That's just how macOS works with Catalyst apps. Gotta keep the window visible.

Of course, we could make a background server edition for macOS, but then we'd be unable to support HomeKit because Apple requires App Store for HomeKit. So it's a trade off. Best thing to do is run your primary as recommended on a Living Room iPad in Guided Access, or on a dedicated AppleTV 2021. Unless you already have a macOS system you can leave in stasis. Assuming you need a primary at all which many systems do not.

2021

Users reported volume control issues with LG WebOS v3.11.25 when using HDMI ARC and documented workarounds or configuration notes.

2020

Question: Why does the forum logo now say "RoomieRemote" ? Are we due for another rebranding?

Also, it seems really dead around here (even for this slow forum). Is everything still cool ?

Staff response: I wouldn't call it a re-brand when it's the actual brand. Our name was always Roomie Remote. It's the name of the company and has been since 2011. The product of the company has been called Simple Control since October 2015, but that did not change the company name which you still can see on the App Store, copyrights, or many other places. In general lately, I'm preferring the actual brand (actually, I always preferred it, but Simple Control was not my choice). Whether I do anything further to return to the main brand, I'm not sure yet. Walking around CEDIA '18 with my original Roomie expo shirt from CEDIA '13, I must say everyone knows Roomie. Simple Control as a brand has never had nearly the reach that Roomie has. For right now I just changed a couple things to reflect the actual brand as an experiment.

Broadly, the niche market that Simple Control targeted didn't work which was clear since at least early 2017. Turning the ship back to the broader market we originally targeted is a lot easier said than done. Such work is in progress, but when you go down a road for several years, it means you're basically neglecting another road. If we're able to make the changes underway for this Fall, it may be that renaming to the main brand could be a good way to indicate that we have changed direction (a while ago).

There's an enormous amount of work left to be done, and not just on the product, but there is a Fall release planned.

Regarding the forum, the ability to find an answer by searching here is high. The noise is low. On the other hand, the forum causes a lot of confusion because many users don't read the notices and think this forum is a support mechanism. No matter how many pinned notices, global alerts, or whatever I do, the number of users that ignore it all and just post the most basic and easily handled support questions that need to be submitted with the right support details to resolve is pretty high. That means this forum needs a lot of moderation – every day a few messages need to be manually redirected to support.

The concept needs a rethink. I look at other support forums and they're either super-heavy moderation with low participation (Apple) or a cess-pool of angry users with problems and a rare support reply reminding people to contact support (SmartThings). I have tried the latter path responding to some threads here reminding people to contact support. It doesn't really fix anything. If I had to pick one, I'd pick the Apple path which is most similar to this forum so that at least it is easy to search and bad/wrong information is not left up, but choosing neither and doing something "better" is really what I'm looking for.

2019

Question: a user asked in TestFlight feedback where the option to restrict HomeKit Sync to one home went. It's just automatic now. Whatever your Home is named in RR should match your HomeKit home name. If it does match, it will be used as a sync restriction. If nothing matches, we will sync all Homes in HomeKit.

Please perform the following steps:

* Close all open Activities in Roomie Remote.
* Turn on Collect Diagnostics in Roomie Remote Settings.
* Restart your iOS device using the power button.
* Open Roomie Remote. HomeKit Sync will occur in the background.
* Wait about 60 seconds to make sure it is done. Device connectivity is the likely issue here and that can delay things.
* Send Diagnostics and then turn off Collect Diagnostics.
* Let us know the time at which the diagnostics were sent.

There is a Force HomeKit Resync button in the Homes panel for 1905+. There are probably cases where it would be useful, possibly whatever you encountered.

Bad connectivity devices don't reliably sync. If we can't talk to it during sync, we won't add it. This is not a change. We could add it, but usually we still won't be able to talk to it. If a device didn't sync, you should be asking how you fix that in HomeKit, nothing to do with us. In the Home app, such devices will appear with red text indicating the error, and eventually the Home app will delete devices with ongoing connectivity issues. The duration of a HomeKit Sync is purely determined by devices with bad connectivity. You can sync any number of HK accessories instantly if they're communicating properly.

I find that HomeKit connectivity issues are usually either a 2.4ghz Wi-Fi device on a preferred 5ghz Wi-Fi network, or the incessant HomeKit Bluetooth issues.

Feel free to send a log segment. There may be cases we can ignore/workaround.

Well, nobody should be doing that (resetting everything all the time) so not gonna worry about that user experience. What you're describing sorts itself out automatically, worst case the new Force Resync button fixes it.

The sync does not stop unless you kill the app. Just don't worry about it. Your problem is 2 bad devices, or in any case devices that aren't communicating with HomeKit.

Code for this is identical in 5.7.7. You're being fooled because 2 of your devices have intermittent communication issues. They will definitely fail the same way in 5.7.7. I see it all the time. I have 2 thermostats at my own home that do exactly the same thing. Some HomeKit devices are either improperly implemented, or whatever. In any case, you can see it in the Home app where it says "No Response" in red and then 10 minutes later it's fine, all day long. Some HK devices work great all the time, some don't. It's sort of an Emperor's New Clothes scenario. Everybody knows this, nobody seems to talk about it openly. Every so often someone will again announce a fabled HomeKit Extender to solve these kinds of things, but so far they have yet to ship, I remember this from at least as far...

2019

I'm running v5.5.1 of the Simple Control app on my iPad. I have successfully added a Guide provider and a Guide using that provider. However, I am unable to associate the Guide with any of my activities such as "Watch Tivo". When I goto Settings->Guides and then select my guide, it shows "0 activities" for the Configured Activities. If I press the right arrow next to "0 activities" in order to associate the Guide with a particular activity, nothing happens. There is no response to pressing that arrow. How do I associate a Guide with a particular activity in v5.5? The section on Guides in the new 5.5 Setup Guide mentions nothing about associating an activity with a guide. I was successfully able to associate a guide with a activity prior to the 5.5 update. Is this a bug in 5.5 or is there a new way to associate the guide that I'm just missing?

Staff response: You just don't worry about it anymore. You're describing the way the old product worked. The V5.5 product no longer requires that setting. Open your Activity, open the guide icon, select the guide you want to pick something from, tune or play something from it, and it is automatically associated with your current Activity (as long as the same guide is not already associated with a different Activity in the same room in which case you'll just switch Activity.) Contact Support with any questions.

Thank you. I thought something wasn't working correctly since pressing the Guide icon resulted in only DVR contents showing by default. Then I noticed the DVR button in the bottom right hand corner of the Guid window and that allowed me to select live tv.

2018

I have been replacing my Z Wave switches and dimmers with the new Leviton WiFi switches. They integrate with Alexa and the Leviton app. So far I am very impressed with them. Any chance that they will be supported in a future release of Simple Control?

Staff response: Haven't seen an API for those, but also have not looked. If we get an API for them, we'll take a look.

Meanwhile, that same line also has Z-Wave and HomeKit switches that are basically identical. The Z-Wave versions we would work with right now via the many Z-Wave adapters we support (SmartThings, ISY, Vera, etc.). The HomeKit versions are supported in 5.0 due later this year.

Personally, I would not choose Wi-Fi as a technology for each IOT element in a home when you get down to the low-power passive items like switches. It's a bigger hammer than is ideal. Either Z-Wave or HomeKit are good options.

2017

Question: Hi, I'm new to Simple Control, migrating from iRule. I want to add a custom device to send simple strings to a TCP server on my network. I've followed the instructions for creating a custom device but I can't unzip the SimpleControlBackup.zip file. It doesn't look like a valid zip file. Using Simple Control v5.0.8, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks
-David

Staff response: It's actually raw gzip data. But any good gzip should be able to handle it. Right click Decompress works on macOS as well.

Actually it is a text file if your zip works correctly.

Correction. It looks like a text file on macOS. It's actually a binary plist file, still editable as a text file via BBEdit, etc. The DDK goes into detail on how to edit these. Making changes inside your backup to the raw data is very much not recommended outside the context of the DDK instructions.

2017

Question: Hello,

I've had my system setup for a month or two now, and everything was going smoothly until recently. I was having trouble with my WMC reliably playing live TV from an HD Homerun Prime unit. I manipulated the network settings to allow my firewall (Norton Internet Security 2013) to see this device better without so much interference (adjusted some UPnP settings), and I've now lost all volume and input feedback from my receiver (Pioneer SC-63). I can still control all those settings, it ju...

Staff response: First thing to try if you lose feedback like that is to unplug the receiver. Both Denon and Pioneer can get into a strange mode where they respond to control but no longer provide feedback that is resolved by fully resetting them which requires complete power cycling.

2013

I have the following setup:

Panasonic P65ST50 TV
Onkyo TX-NR515 Receiver
Panasonic BDT-220 Bluray
I am using the TV's internal tuner for TV and Audio Return via HDMI to feed that audio to the receiver

I have had a Pronto and a Harmony before so have dabbled quite a bit but I am I have the following issues getting Roomie setup.Firstly, there is no Wake On LAN with my TV. I wish I knew this before I bought it and I would have got the GT50. I am trying to overcome this by using WOL to wake up the BDT220 which then wakes up the TV via Viera Link. Secondly, I am also having issues selecting the correct input on the TV for any given activity and then switching the correct things off.

Questions:
1. Is there any other way to power on the TV besides the Bluray doing it? I can't work out a way for the receiver to do it with RHID.
2. Are there discrete Power On and Power Off IP commands within Roomie for both the P65ST50 and the BDT220? All I can find is power toggles for both.
3. Are there discrete Input selection commands within Roomie for the P65ST50? All I can find is "Input next".

I hope that all makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help.

K.

1. If the 515 and ST50 are configured for HDMI CEC, you should be able to send TV POWER ON to the Onkyo to activate the TV. (Your mileage may vary as HDMI CEC remains very fault prone.)

2. The ST50 does not support Wake on LAN and is toggled. The most reliable way to control that unit is IR. The BDT220 can be turned on with a PLAY command and then turned off with PLAY followed immediately by POWER TOGGLE.

3. Panasonic only offers INPUT NEXT over IP. The full array of discrete inputs is available via IR.

Thank you so much for your quick response. It's a real shame that Panny have chosen to limit the IP control so severely.

K

I have the same TV and same issues.

Although the issue that is outstanding is as per question ealier above.

3. Are there discrete Input selection commands within Roomie for the P65ST50? All I can find is “Input next”.

How can you configure to simply change Input to TV or whatever input required as the options are quite useless given for this important functional feature. Appreciate the answer that I cannot seem to find.

Forgot to add when I add the input next command it only displays the input menu, but it does not have the command to allow the specific input selection of the inputs displayed on screen no matter what I do.

2012

Is this model supported via ip? Many similar models are, but this one's not listed.
Also is it possible to control volume on several receivers from the same screen?

That model does not support IP control.

You do want to make sure different receivers are configured in different rooms.

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For the receivers - listing them in different rooms - can you add multiple rooms to control volume on all of them at the same time? i.e. for a whole house audio?

Roomie has no room limit assuming you have the Home Theater Pack. You can have as many different rooms configured as you like.

There is only one Onkyo protocol, so it is possible that models we don't list could work. If you do find any, please let us know.

I think you are not understanding my question about the rooms.
Can I on one screen - without moving to a different screen control volumes for 2 different devices in 2 different rooms?

Sure. If you wanted to do that, you would add both zones for the same receiver in the same room. You would then edit the remote design for the Activity in which you wanted both receivers running to add appropriate buttons for the second zone.

2012

I just started using roomie and I love it. A killer addition to your app would be a MyMovies style bluray/dvd media catalog for integration with Dune. I see that you have your own cable/ satellite tv guide add on; maybe you can modify it to include that functionality.

I agree. I also use MyMovies to categorize all of my media in Windows Media Center. It would be great if you can use your HD Guide Pack and view all of your movies on your computer right in the Roomie App with the cover art click on it to get details about the movie, ratings, cast info, and then right from the cover art select the movie to play. Currently I switch back and forth between the Roomie App and MyMovies App to do this.

I too would love support for this.

I would love this feature as well!

+1 That would be a great addition.

i also use mymovies with a duneHD player. I would greatly appreciate being able to use mymovies with Roomie!


Any update to this? Our movies are stored on a MyMovies Windows server and played back via DuneHD player. It provides a Kalaidascape type experience for a fraction of the cost.

I'm also using Dune and MyMovies. Would love to see support for this.

2012

Activities & Scenes

Has anyone tried this, l wish to create an activity to announce custom audio upon say a TD happens and custom message plays on my AMP or Sonos

Specifically looking for how to link a custom audio file, how to divert the audio to a device, l could not find any instruction in the user guide.

Upload your custom sound file (make sure to use correct format see release notes) in Settings. Provide name of sound file in the Play Audio command from your screenshot. Playing a sound on a Sonos speaker is an unrelated command.

Thanks so much where will this file play ?

Here are two screenshots showing how I set this up using both Sonos and every single Roomie device playing the same sound simultaneously. There are many, many more commands but essentially they are all copies of what you see here going to different Sonos speakers telling them which source to follow.

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Thanks for the examples, I have just one Sonos and wish to play his file1.mp3 on that which is my in HT room, here is what I am doing but doesn’t work, what am I missing?

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Sonos can be finicky about mp3 formats. Try various files and match the rest of my screenshots.

Thanks so much for helping out, I tried the following, the files plays on my iPad

I just have one Sonos and wish to setup an online activity TD ON, if l run this activity and press confirm yes, it should play the file on Sonos

In your example Iron Gate Doorbell is an online activity correct ?

SB party at my HT starts in few hours, it will be great if l can get this working good publicity for RR…currently l have setup with YoLink hub with FOB’s that triggers an Alexa Routine

You need to look at the screenshots I posted and match them. What you're pasting back here is not that. You're just pointing your speaker to itself. Read the commands and delays, the example I gave isn't random, you need to do exactly that.

So here is an exact copy of the example 2 still no luck

The sequence is known to work so in this case it's your sound file (or for example the naming of the file). Sonos as I said is very particular about that.

I tried everything mp3 wav files, with .mp3 .wav and without extension no luck

If I just create an activity and use broadcast command and put the .wav file it plays on my iPad

2025

I am having difficulty incorporating this old receiver into a small system in my library. I am using an Itach Ethernet to send ir signals to the Pioneer and to an older Samsung flat screen. Source is from AppleTV that is directly controlled.

I have a successful activity that turns on the tv and the AppleTV but will not power on the receiver. When I turn on the receiver manually all the Roomie controls (vol, mute etc) in the activity work fine. Not sure what to do next and hope someone can steer me in the right direction.

Using the Pioneer receiver for audio which is similar to our older Pioneer box and activating other video devices commands first, we had to add several delays between the Pioneer commands to get the activity to work properly.

2025

The issue I am having is when I select an Activity IE: “Watch Directv” the first time from the Dashboard to startup/powerup the room the activity runs but fails to go to the action panel for directv. IT works fine anytime after that IE: switching between other activities. I am stumped on what might be causing this.

The activity is simple and goes like this.

Power - Marantz AVR, Set INput, Set Vol
Power - Directv
Power - Epson Projector
Run - Inline Activity that controls lighting (hue/lutron)

\\*Confirm Command is OFF.

2025

Hello.

How do I customize the bottom tray in v9. The global volume control disappeared in v9 and I would like to get it back somehow as it was very handy to have quick access in the bottom.

I usually use the gesture pad, and then the tray for my receiver isn’t visible.

Have tried to find info about this without success.

See below pic for clarify which area I refer to as bottom tray, not sure about the correct term.

Best regard Ronny.

Staff response: Remember the poll where it was determined nobody uses the Volume Homebar:

Based on your description and screenshot, in your case, you were incorrectly using it because your Activity is mis-configured. Set your Receiver as the volume device for the Activity as documented and it will again be visible as part of the Action Panel.

2024

Hi there,

I am working up a full roomie config for the first time. I ran into something I do not quite understand how to best approach.

Primarily for my theater setup which has a front projector with long startup time. Instead of making every activity have a complex startup, I created a single inline activity that starts the FP first and then everything.

However, when I add that to the existing media activities that were automatically created, it appears last. Is there a way to drag and drop it to the top of the list or reorder them? It seems that I can delete everything in the populated startup list and re-add by hand but that is error prone. I suspect there is a better way that I am just missing.

Thank you!

Staff response: It's not actually executed last, it's just listed after devices. Timing of commands within an Activity depends only on the single Activity not some other Activity so it is simply separate from a timing perspective. If you Start Activity, that item executes immediately. However, if you specifically wanted to Delay an Activity, there is also that option.

Typically what you describe is done via an Inline Activity. Every Media Activity issues a Start Activity to the Projector Inline Activity. The System Off Activity then issues a Stop Activity to the Projector Inline Activity. In this way, no time is ever lost/wasted trying to do the Projector Start more than once.

Thank you Will. I had read about the command pipeline to individual devices. I was not applying that to a generic inline activity that contained multiple devices. This makes perfect sense now!

I will build my "theater startup" inline activity, add that to my media activities as needed, then put in delays for things like input switching, etc.

I now know to view these items as basically parallel instead of serial in the top to bottom order. Great help!

2023

I have an old ISSY99i controlling some older Insteon light switches. I can control the lights with no issues from the dashboard. I have also created some Inline activities that work fine. Dim/all lights on/all lights off, etc.

However in my System Off activity I cannot get consistent behavior where it turns off all three lights. In my activity when I power off I want it to shut off my AVR (works fine), my projector (works fine) and then delay 30 seconds so I can get out of the room. It just flat out won't turn off all three lights. I might have narrowed it down to the "Delay All" command. I have it set for 30 seconds, and now I can get 2 off (the last two in sequence). if I shorten it it seems to work.

Any thoughts?

Staff response: Anything other 2 seconds is going to be sent to your Primary Controller. So this is likely that your Primary Controller is not setup properly.

2023

I have a TV and three devices attached. Using the TV and AppleTV device as an example for the "Watch AppleTV" activity, it provide two Action Panels (see photo below showing ATV gesture pad and LG volume pad). Is it common in Roomio that volume is shown on the action panel? See photos. The prefence (mine anyway) is to have volume alway be the buttons on the bar, and he wheel not to be seen on scroll. Is there a way to do that?

2023

I have a situation here and would like to see if anyone will have a good suggestion.
Let’s say I am using my blu ray player to play something in my living room and media room at the same time. I have created two activities (watch blu ray) for both zones.
How can I set up these to activities when I power off the activity in one zone like living room, it doesn’t power off the blu ray player since it is still being used in the other zone media room?
If I remove power off from the “on stop” section then it would never turn it off when switching sources in that particular zone.

Any suggestion will be much appreciated.

You're coming at the problem as "there is one device and it is active in multiple rooms that can each be toggled by room."

One Roomie way of expressing that would be "there is one Activity shared in multiple rooms and within that you can toggle each room."

So create one activity in the room "Home" called "Watch House Blu-ray". Now you have a few choices. These include (1) create separate activities in each room that launch the central activity – this will require shutting off the central activity separately when finished, (2) add individual room activation buttons to the Design for the central House activity, or as Inline Activities to the Home room activity list.

Personally, turning off Blu-ray Players is a huge waste of time as they use almost no power. So in most rooms I just have a Watch House Blu-ray activity and they all turn on a central Blu-ray Player. Nothing turns that player off because that's irrelevant to me. If I really wanted to solve that issue, as I do in certain other devices, I would create an automation that simply sends a power off to that device every day at 10pm for example.

Thanks Will. This was a thorough explanation which makes sense.
If there was a conditional command for input setting just like the one for power, it would solve this issue too. We could make a condition that if the power is on for the receiver in the main zone and the input is set to BD then don’t turn off the blu ray player.

Just a thought but thanks for explaining the existing options.

I have found that many BD players have a setting that puts them into low power mode after a period of inactivity. Some allow you to set how long before this happens and whether it goes to sleep or off, but usually it needs to be sleep if you want to be able to wake it up via an IP on command. Thus I don’t send commands to power off my BD or Media (Dune etc) players and just set them to go to “sleep” after an hour of inactivity.

Erik

2022

Hey there.

I’m super new to Roomie and love it already.

I use tivimate for watching TV. How can I set an activity to turn the tivimate app on my fire tv?
And is it possible to setup a TV guide with shortcuts to my favourite tv channels?

Ants

On the Nvidia Shield (another Android device), I use Application Launch / ar.tvplayer.tv to open TiviMate. Maybe this will work on the FIreTV. I may have a FireTV laying around, I can test later.

2022

Use Case:

I'm using YouTube.tv for TV. It starts with a Home screen and I want it to display Live TV. There is a known key combo of back > up > select that will show Live TV. Is there a way I can map this to a custom button?

The two things I've tried.
1. I tried adding this to the startup but I'm using Apple TV with a voice command to start YouTube.tv and if I put a delay after the voice command then the voice command isn't issued and if I don't put a delay, the commands run before the voice command completes.
2. I created an inline activity and attached it to a button and it works but the inline activity can't be hidden and shows in my Room and is really only appropriate to this very specific use case and should be hidden from the room.

Staff response: As you noted the solution for this is to create an Activity to sequence commands properly. There are many options for where to put that Activity. A common one is to use a room called "Home" to store such Activities if you want to hide them, or whatever you want to call it.

2021

How do I use the .PLAY SET command in iTunes? Can someone provide an example of what goes into the field? Is their a guide that provides an explanation of how to use Code Sets? I'd like to have an activity that plays a specific playlist when the activity is powered on and stops playing when the activity is powered off.

Staff response: .PLAY SET is for changing the play position time. So you're 1:00 into a program, and you want to set it to 30 minutes in, that's what that does.

There are other commands that might do what you want. Use the search function in these forums for more information on those. Also, these days you can use the pinch to zoom diagnostics to watch the commands we send from the Media Guide, so it's much easier to figure this kind of stuff out.

2021

Hi!

New to Roomie Remote, really enjoying it so far!

I'm trying to figure out how the Global Delay work, I have a light that is control with Lutron RadioRA2, what I'm trying to do is having an activity powering on the light for 30 sec and then OFF:

On Start:

-Light: ON

-Delay All: 30 sec

-Light: Off

When running this activity, the light go On and them Off without acknowledge the 30 sec delay

If someone can guide me to resolve this issue that would be awesome!

Tks.

2020

Question: Hello,

Does Roomie Remote v6 have the capability for the user to create a custom button for an activity that is a drop down list feature inside the app itself?

In my situation, I have an Activity for Watch Nvidia for my Living Room. On the remote I want to create a button that is a drop down list where I can launch different apps on Nvidia (i.e. Launch Plex, Launch YouTube, Launch Disney+, etc.).

Thanks for the help.

Staff response: ... there is already exactly such a menu on that device which does just that.

Feel free to try these things before posting.

If there is a specific launch command you're missing for a reasonably popular app, and you know the Shield-specific Bundle ID (eg. "org.xbmc.kodi" for Kodi), post them here and I'm happy to add them to the codeset. Make sure to test them first as Shield has many instances of custom bundle IDs. Other apps can always be added as custom buttons.

2020

Question: I have several devices in my theater that take anywhere from 30-50 seconds to fully boot up after a power on command. Initially, I didn’t think this was a problem, I just inserted the appropriate delay after power on before sending any other commands to the device. This works fine when everything is off. However, once the system is on and I simply want to go from, for example, watching BluRay to watching Cable, when I select the Cable activity, all of those delays are programmed into the activit...

Staff response: That's what Toggle Activities are for, or at least a primary purpose. You make a toggle activity like "TV Power". It has start and stop commands with appropriate delays. Each Media Activity starts the Toggle Activity. If it's already on, it won't be re-executed.

2019

Hi Everyone,

I have the following issue powering LG 65B8P off (and sometimes on).... My setup is very simple. OLED LG TV which connected to a Yamaha receiver via AV Access HDMI 2.0 HDBaseT Extender. The only input that exists on the Yamaha receiver is ATV4. The sound is powered by a receiver.

I read on this forum how to get the LG TV to power on and off (by specifying MAC address) with Yamaha and ATV being straight forward. After I set everything up in my app v5.5, I am able to turn the equipment on and can shut the Receiver off but the TV shuts off for a second and then turns back on (pressing power off again few times finally shuts it off).

Any idea what could be the reason for this? Anyone else experiences this?

As a side note, at times, I am also unable to turn on the TV, even though I am able to turn on receiver and wake up ATV.

Please offer any ideas.

Thanks,
B

We have multiple units of that type. I am fairly sure I saw this once (out of multiple units over multiple years). My theory at the time was that the LG has an auto-shutoff when awakened by WoL if you don't have a live HDMI source when it turns on. So depending on how your system is configured, you would just change the timing of commands to ensure that when the TV turns on, the source is live. In any case, we use these all the time and I suspect a huge percentage of the user base does as well so should be very easy to resolve as it is not commonly reported.

I will try to repeat what you said to make sure I understand.

1. When I turn my setup on, ATV and Receiver turn on first and after a slight delay, turn the TV on.

2. When shutting off - turn off the ATV and Receiver first, and then TV.

Correct?

Thanks,
B

I have this exact same issue with a 65C8. I agree with Will's assessment that an active HDMI input seems to help the WoL feature, and powering the TV on after everything else is good. But I'm also having issues with Power Off.

Here are a couple of things I've seen:
-Off activity turns off AVR, and sets other devices to desired states OK.
-TV stays on, indicate loss of signal due to upstream AVR being powered off.
-Selecting another activity restores video....but then TV powers off.
-If TV is on an inactive input, it doesn't respond to commands or ping.

I was able to resolve part of the problem/s.

1. Some receivers have stand-by functionality which in this case had to be shut off
2. Yamaha receiver has power toggle and power on/off functions. In this case to shut off - power off is used
3. We have 3 “i” devices at home so ideally only one should be used (because I don’t have a dedicated hub to track power state).
4. Disabled ATV4 to control receiver

Basically, 3 devices are completely stand alone and don’t have any connected handshake.

I have successfully been operating on/off function over the past week.

2018

I'm sure I'm missing something, but is there a way to incorporate the audio mode such as DTS, DD (not just the volume) in the main screen of the activity remote like on the legacy devices?

Also, is there a way to remove the touchpad as the main default for controlling the device? For example, when i select "play apple tv", the default remote that opens is a touch pad so i have to manually tap on the below arrow to get to the "d-pad" screen.

Thanks for the help,
Jeremy

any update on the above? i just want to be able to show the "audio mode" next to the volume on the main activity screen and remove apple's default touchpad.

Surely there has to be a workaround so you don't have to close the touchpad overlay every time (if you prefer to use the d-pad to navigate)?

2018

I'm considering buying the Somfy MyLink to more easily control my shades through SC 5.5. I'm aware that MyLink is supported by 5.5 but I wanted to confirm if its compatible with Homebar (given that it doesn't provide status updates)?

On a similar note, is there any way to have Insteon FanLinc fan's controlled via the Homebar?

Staff response: myLink does go on the Homebar, but as noted in the materials for 5.5, it remembers state internally to Simple Control. So if you change the shade state with an RTS remote or something like that, it will be out of sync. If that's fine, use a Homebar Scene. If not, use an Inline Toggle Activity.

Thanks Will. Yes, I had read that in the materials but I recall in a previous forum post you'd said that you wouldn't integrate Somfy to the Homebar if it didn't return the live state so just wanted to confirm it was definitely possible.

In terms of the FanLinc's, is there any way to get them in the Homebar or will they always have to be Inline Toggle Activties?

2018

I apologize ahead of time for the number of times the word “activity” is about to be used. :slight_smile:

How do you all handle setting up activities for devices that are in an AV closet and can be used from multiple rooms, i.e. video devices accessed through a video matrix? It seems like the only option is to have an individual media activity for each device per room, which leads to a ton of duplication and clutter. Ann i missing something obvious that makes this easy to achieve with a simple workflow for end users?

I’ve been trying to figure out a nice pattern that uses inline activities with action panels for each video device to switch between video sources and then a single ‘Watch TV’ media action that calls another activity (whatever the default source activity for the room is) for starting the whole thing. I think it could work except the inline activity I associate with the main ‘Watch TV’ activity either doesn’t trigger or it doesn’t show its action panel when started that way.

That would still need to have duplicate activities in each room, but I think the presentation is slightly less cluttered that way. It would be nice to be able to associate sub-activities with another activity that would be displayed only when that activity is active.

What do people who have done this before usually do? Looking for tips on how to best set up a configuration for a distributed media installation.

2018

Question: So I just got Siri Short cuts working to turn the tv on/off in different rooms which is pretty awesome. Anyways, when my parents are in town it is always hard for them to figure out how to get the tv on/off with just our iPads and iPhones so the voice now solves one of those problems.

It would be cool if we could say "set family room tv to NBC" for example or "turn the family room tv to channel 1233"

Is this possible?

Staff response: You can do that today by creating an Activity that sends the specific command to tune the specific channel.

Siri does not support "variables" as I discuss in another thread here. So there is no generic tune ____ syntax that Siri will process and then you would just create a single Intent and specify the channel by voice dynamically. While Siri supports that in the underlying infrastructure, at the voice level all commands are known ahead of time and non-dynamic.

So anyway, the short version is you can do that right now by creating activities with the commands you want. The good part about doing it that way is you can also specify exactly how you want to say it. So if you just want to raise your Watch to your wrist and mumble "HBO" into it to change the channel to HBO, you can do that.

Put Activities like that into the default "Home" room.

2018

Question: Is there a way to launch an App on the Roku with Simple Control. Last I saw in the forum you had to enter a .cursor functions to move to the app on the home screen and hit enter.

Staff response:

It's fixed now.

2018

I have Activities EG: Watch Directv, Watch Roku ect... These are used to power on the system and setup that Activity. Power OFF runs commands to do just that power down the system. Most all the command come with Delays built in to control how long the program waits between commands. For all theseactivities I would like to have automation control of lighting added in.
I have Hue and Lutron Castea both setup thru HomeKit. Doing it this way is great but it seems there is no ability to edit delays for these commands. IF I wanted to add 2 lights to turn on when I power on the system to watch directv I can do that but if I wanted it to delay 25 seconds then run a command to dim them I can't it seems as there is no adjustment in these lighting commands and no basic dummy delay command to insert.
What is the best way to add lighting to activities? Is there or can there be a dummy delay added?

I do not have big delays. I tried to set a delay between the commands for 30 seconds to send the IP relay of the stop command after lowering and raising the video screen. But after 30 seconds the command is not sent ...

2017

Since it is possible to access all the lights and shades from the new home bar in version 5, I don't understand the reason to create an activity tile on the dashboard for the same purpose. Am I missing something here? Does the activity tile offer more functionality than the home bar icons?

Staff response: I agree. That's why I state in the release announcement that you should review all of your Activities and delete old ones, many of which people no longer need as many things are now more easily accessed via the HomeBar.

Also, in a future release, we're going to dynamically create toggle Activities on the dash based on your most frequently used HomeBar items. So we're going to create those for you (and get rid of them for you) for your most frequently used items.

2017

I have an activity set to toggle an Insteon switch but unfortunately I do not see a way for SC to monitor feedback for this. Is there a way to have a toggle activity update via feedback?

Thanks!

Staff response: Toggle Mode Activities remember internal state. It is not based on the state of an external feedback.

So the usual way to deal with this is to have the external feedback engage a corresponding Trigger to toggle the Toggle Mode Activity to the correct state.

2016

Hi Forum,

Can anyone help? I have two Sonos devices called, Bedroom and Living Room. I would like to set up an activity that plays the Living Room Line in on the Bedroom Sonos. Without interrupting whatever the Living Room Sonos is currently playing.

From the command set available I can only seem to play Living Room Line in on the Living Room Sonos and the Bedroom Line in on the Bedroom Sonos. I could try using group and ungroup but that would interrupt what is already playing in the living room.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris.

Staff response: It sounds like the command you're looking for is .SOURCE SET which lets you select a different Sonos device as the new source. That command should be followed by PLAY.

2016

First of all, AWESOME. Thank you for the IP control.

What do ".key string", ".Key string end", and "menu top" do?

Same questions + difference between "MENU", "MENU HOME" and "MENU TOP", along with ".GESTURE TOUCH DOWN SET", ".GESTURE TOUCH MOVE SET", ".GESTURE TOUCH UP SET".

Thanks for 3.0, it's great so far!

Is there a command available to launch a channel, like netflix, directly on an Apple TV when starting an activity?

2014

Hello:

I'm trying to configure my FanLinc into Roomie running off an ISY 994i, I do have the odd issue that both the motor and the light have the same address. I can get the light to work fine, but I'm not sure how I would differentiate the motor inside Roomie to have a separate fader for it.

While I'm not a Fanlinc expert I don't think you can use a fader for the motor. I believe you have to set up scenes for each fan setting and use those to control the fan.

Yeah I do believe it only has 4 settings. That makes sense. I'll do that. Great idea, thanks!

2014

This unit responds well to all other activity commands, including Wake on LAN. I am able to power it off using the device remote. However, the power toggle command in the 'System Off' activity fails to work. Any suggestions?

For a +WAKE ON LAN device, it is better to turn off Track Power State. That makes sure POWER TOGGLE is always sent. Because WoL devices ignore commands other than WoL when off, the POWER TOGGLE should never be squelched in System Off.

2014

Hi there,

i just added some wifi switchable plug switches to handle some lights with Roomie.

There is an activity to control them. Here i added some alarms to get switches time controlled. Example: 9 am/11 pm - switch off/on lights. Fine, so far.

iPad is unlocked and Roomie is running with no active activity, but alarms doesn't work. If alarm time is reached, nothing happens. After opening the activiy where i defined the alarm they are running.

Is there a special way to get alarms running without an active activity?

Thanks in advance.

Alarms are associated with a Remote Design. The Remote Design must be open in order for it execute. This has various advantages, for instance that means they synchronize between all your devices and will execute on any of your devices.

A common way to do that would be to add the Alarms to a Remote Design associated with a System Off Activity. While System Off by default doesn't open an Activity, it does if you set one. An Activity with Time/Date/Alarms is a typical choice for that.

Fantastic, it works with the power off activity.

2014

I've got an odd problem - I have the WF2IR Global Cache box and have positioned an emitter directly over the sync port on my Xbox 360 Slim. If I set up the device in Roomie and use 'test remote', the power on/off works fine.

If, however, I add the power on/off to an 'activity', it rarely works. I've set up 2 activities - 1 to power on the entire system (Yamaha receiver and Xbox) and the other to power them off. I used the 'power on' or 'power off' command for the Xbox for the relevant activity, but they don't seem to work.

Why does it work with the 'test remote', but not in an activity?

I should add that I've tried different variables - command delay, command repeat, etc. but no real improvement is seen when using power on/off in an activity.

When multiple infrared commands are sent as part of a sequence, some devices get confused (some more than others). This is the reason for the Delay Next Command setting. Increasing that to provide a larger window between commands lets the slower devices distinguish separate commands.

Remember also that set has POWER ON, POWER OFF, and POWER TOGGLE. When you're in the Virtual Remote, it may send one command whereas the command used an in Activity may be the discrete command. So you can also try changing the actual command in either case.

Ok, I'll try the Delay Next Command.

I already tested all the Power On, Power Off and Power Toggle items in the 'Test Remote' option - they all work there, just not when using them in an Activity. Hopefully the Delay Next Command works...

I'm seeing similar behavior on a pair of Xbox 360s. Unlike Grokism, I'm finding Power Toggle to be fairly reliable--but it comes with its own problems.

In my Activities, I am not sending any additional commands to the Xbox360 beyond basic power. I'm using the Roomie Xbox controller to control Netflix, and that is quite responsive.

Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add except I have the same issues. All the power commands work--except the one chosen when the Xbox is set as the power device for the activity.

If you ever find that using a command in a Start Commands list does not work whereas using the command from the Virtual Remote works fine, it means one and only one thing: the delay and ordering of the commands must be changed. Some devices respond poorly to other infrared commands confusing them. To resolve that, increase delays between commands. Changing the ordering of the commands can also help so that particularly bad devices get their commands first.

I was finally able to straighten this out. Yes, delays had something to do with it, but I'm not certain why. Here's my devices:


TV on iTach IR emmitter 1
XBox on iTach IR emitter 2
IR Blaster on iTach IR port 3
Receiver controlled via ethernet


Everything but the TV is downstairs in an equipment rack. In the XBox activity, nothing that uses the blaster port is used. So, theoretically, there's no extra IR signals that the XBox ...

2013

Question: I had some issues with activity switching. When making a cold start (from full power down) to an activity, the receiver (that's generous - it's a YSP-2200 soundbar!) and TV (Samsung LED from around 2009) would fail to input switch. They would only turn on. If the cold start activity differed from the activity on power off, the inputs were wrong. If I re-engaged the activity once all devices were fully powered on there were no input switching issues.

I read as much as I could from the FA...

Staff response: I learned something about 'delay next command' and I am sharing here for the benefit of others. Not sure if this is by design or I stumbled across something that can be fixed in a maintenance release.

I am using serial control for an older Denon receiver so I can get feedback. Serial works great for almost all commands on this older Denon receiver, and gives feedback, but the older Denon will not respond via serial control to one of the specific 'input' commands I need. No worries - I added an IR blaster as a 'second device' for the same Denon receiver specifically to select that particular input.

The Denon needs a 'delay next command' between 'power on' and 'select input' of 1500 nanoseconds to allow the Denon to sufficiently power up and recognize the 'input' selection command. But if I 'power on' via serial, and select 'delay next command' of 1500 under that same command, and then 'select input' via IR blast as a 'separate device', it will NOT delay the IR blast for 1500 nanoseconds after the serial command. The 'delay next command' is ignored. Apparently, the 'delay next command' only works if the next command is of the same type of device as the prior command.

I know this because, as a work around, if I 'power on' the Denon via IR blast instead of serial command, and select 'delay next command 1500' under that command, and then 'select input' also via IR blast, the 'delay next command' will work. This is also true if 'power on' is serial and 'select input' is serial for the other input selections - in that case the delay also works. It is apparently the mixing and matching of devices where delay will not work.

This was an hour long brain teaser so I am trying to 'pay it forward' and help the next guy here. Thanks.

2012

I have added my equipment into the roomie and also setup my activiteis like watch TiVo and watch bluray. When I activate the watch TiVo, it turns on the necessary equipment and there is no problem there. My question is that, is there any way possible that if I want to switch my activity from lets say watch TiVo which is on right now, to watch bluray without pushing the system off button first and go directly to the watch bluray activity button, like the harmony remotes. In harmony if I do that, it already knows that which equipments are on which are needed for the next ativity and leaves them on and turns on the ones that need to be on and turns off the ones that are no longer needed. I did push the next activity button on roomie like watch bluray but it turned all my equipments off instead of leaving the ones that are needed for the bluray activity, on. Is there any way to set it up like that or it does not work like that in roomie.
Thanks

On a per-activity basis, Roomie has the "Power Device" setting allowing you to specify that a particular device should be turned on and off based on whether that activity is current. As a given Activity would not normally have any more than one "special" device needing power, that generally takes care of it. There are a few other tricks for more complex scenarios, and the right solutions will also often depend on exactly what device and model is being used.

I actualy don't understand the function of that "Power Device" setting exactly. Could you tell me what the exact function for that is?
In my senario, when I have the watch TiVo activity on, my pioneer tv is on, my pioneer av reciever is also on and the input for that is on hdmi 1 and of course the TiVo is also on. When I push the watch bluray activity button, I am expecting the roomie to leave my tv on, leave my reciever on but change the input to BD input and turn my pioneer bluray on which was not used in the previous activity. Instead of doing that, it turns my tv off, turns my reciever off and turns my bluray player on which is not right.

Those all have discrete power commands (Pioneer TV and Pioneer AVR), so the only way those would be incorrectly powered is due to misconfiguration. It sounds like something is set as a Power Device that shouldn't be. The only device in that list that might ever be a Power Device is your Blu-ray Player depending on the brand/model which isn't listed. Make sure all the Power Devices are set to None in your Activities and make sure you didn't manually add any power commands anywhere. Your TV and receiver are then automatically managed simply by setting "Power for all Activities" on their device and they'll turn on/off at the right times. We'll need to see your configuration at email support if there are any further issues.

By saying not to manually add any power commands, are you saying that I should not even add power off command for that device also? because I have set power for all activities for my reciever bu...

2012

Ok, I figured out that you have to set the device as default and feedback works. That doesn't make much sense if you have multiple devices to control. I'll put in a feature request.

I can see the controller and once I give it a scene it will pick up the others but it won't actually let me control anything. All my other devices work fine.

When I add the isy99i I get the message; "Authentication is not configured. Depending on your device configuration, this may prevent proper communication."

I've added the authentication information but I'm stumped on what to enter for default device. The greyed out value shown in that field initially is A1 B2 C3 so i'm not sure what it's looking for here. I tried the device address as in 0A.BC.87 but that didn't work.

Well, what works is to enter the insteon address but like this; A BC 87. Don't use a leading 0 or periods between characters just a space.

Also, you can then add Activities and it allows you to set up an entry for any of your insteon devices. I haven't tried turning Scenes on and off but they would probably work better otherwise the Room will get pretty crowed with Insteon device on and off entries.

-phil

Default Device can be left blank in general. It's just for the case where you want a special Virtual Remote for that particular light. If you do enter a device for that, make sure to follow the format shown A1 B2 C3 (not A1.B2.C3 for instance).

Any idea how to activate or deactivate a Insteon Scene that's defined in the isy99i? It doesn't have an A1 B2 C3 type address.

Insteon scenes are just a number like 1 or 2. They don't have a format per se. The command editor identifies that for you. Scenes are controlled by scene commands such as ".SCENE ON" and the other commands preceded by "SCENE".

Okay, I see that now. The scene I'm trying to control is numbered 59035. It works great. thanks

I cant get feedback to work at all. When I add device i add the device in the following format "xx xx xx". I know I entered it correctly because. On, off, bright, and dim all work in the virtual remote... Just no feedback



I'm using an ISY-994i/IR Pro

To get lighting feedback in the current version 1.6.X, you would specify a Default Device in the ISY device in Roomie of the Insteon address and then create an Activity with the ISY set as 'Opens Remote'.

2012

Hey folks, how do I correct incorrect channels for my area in the guide?

My postal code is 55902, and the Provider chosen is "DirecTV with Rochester Austin Area Channels (Central)". From the looks of things it is assume we have the distant market waiver, which (1) DirecTV hasn't accepted in many years and (2) is no longer needed because they (finally) launched local HD over the satellite a month or so ago.

You mean it lists extra channels for your area that DirecTV does not give you access to? That's normal. Just don't select them for your list of channels and then you wont see them. In theory some people might have access to them so it is correct to list them.

No, it lists then in place of the correct channel. Some of my locals are missing, others are replaced by similar, but different, channels from New York.

If you believe there is an incorrect channel listing, please email support with your zip code, exact provider name, and up to 3 examples of incorrect channels. For instance, "channel 1 should be KNBC channel 4" or something like that, and we'll pass it on to our providers.

2012

Interface Customization

I am (was) a long time iRule user - probably around 20 zones, 50 or so different devices controlled via TCP-IP, IR (via Global Cache), RS232 (via Global Cache) - many of them custom code libraries and so many different screens and panels I lost count. Roomie seems like a logical replacement and I purchased a one room subscription to do a POC. I can't for the life of me figure out how to put a screen together that will accomplish a simple task. Are there any intro docs / videos out there? I did a YouTube search and everything seems to be 10+ years old.

Staff response: Definitely YouTube is hopelessly out of date for anything related to Roomie. We did a Now Showing video last year that went well, but even that was out of date a few months later due to features we added. Anyway, one day we will likely do a series of YouTube videos that have been sorely lacking for Roomie.

In a general sense, the flow of the video I used to update every year (until perhaps 2015) simply taught users about rooms, devices, and activities. Add each of them in that order.

The Setup Guide is the primary instructional material we provide, and it is frequently brought up to date.

iRule users tend to think in terms of "Screens" because that was the be-all end-all in that app. Toss that whole concept out. Go pure default Action Panels in Roomie just set up all your rooms, activities, and devices. Later, you then customize each panel to add or remove whatever you need.

I am an old iRule user as well...and yes, you have a learning curve here..and I'm still not sure everything is set up correctly? Some of the language used to describe panels or actions...are confusing to me....inline for sure! It was trial and error for me....and some happy mistakes.

2025

…make sure that on your iOS device under Settings/Apps/Roomie Remote/Allow Roomie Remote To Access… to turn on the slider next to “Home Data”.

You must enable this for your HomeKit devices to synchronize with Roomie. Ask me how I know (after over an hour of !#%@!).

This may be something that everyone else knows, but hopefully it’s useful to at least one other person. I don’t think I saw this setting mentioned anywhere in the Sep 2024 User Guide, and I’m pretty sure I looked at each one of the 60+ times “HomeKit” appears in the Guide.

Net-Net, I’m glad that I can now see my HomeKit devices. :)

I probably missed that as I just started using HK devices this week vs Roomie from about the time it was first released. I probably thought, “I’ll never need HomeKit…”. :)

2025

I believe this has been requested earlier but as RR has evolved and become one of the most stable customizable smart home controller, l am sure like me more and more people are using it for 24/7 wall based multi room home automation (instant local home sharing was the best innovation)…what is missing is a very key feature for on wall control deployment @ weather info. I would like to make a strong recommendation to add this asap please

My setup works so well with guided access:

- Room wall display as per attached picture always plugged in to a charger
- 2 min screen lock in guided access mode
- So this locks the iPad in 2 min helps preserve screen burnout
- use any room sensor in proximity to set alert in HomeKit
- as soon as it detects a motion the iPad wakes up and display the RR app

WoW everything works like a charm.

Only missing information that one would like to see on the wall iPad to display “weather information”

…and if we get this format with 3 windows it will be wow++++

Weather is already in the next major release. Currently, the following aspects comprise this feature:

* HomeBar displays current weather symbol. Might add a temperature next to the symbol.
* Tapping HomeBar Weather brings up ~ 10 day weather with rain and wind, etc. Along the bottom is the hourly weather for ~ 24 hours.
* Sunset, Sunrise, and Solar Noon can be used instead of exact times for Automations.

There is not currently a large display version of Weather on the Dashboard. Would be pretty easy to add that.

It is also the plan shortly to remove all Cameras from the Dashboard and every other Activity panel. Cameras are being moved to their own horizontal, scrolling row right above the Homebar. This restores the usefulness of Toggle Activities which in situations with many cameras were basically hidden while making more sense since no more than 4-5 cameras were ever active at a time anyway.

Lots of other stuff coming in V9, but that's one of the basic ones that is mostly already done.

Thanks Will, look forward to ver 9…

I would like to share one more screen shot, this one is the main iPad @ Primary controller in the living room, this is the ultimate goal.

Currently l am using Stage Manager but cannot use guided access…hence keep hoping that RR doesn’t crash, been on for 1 week+ and sill very stable.

If we can Achieve all these functions in RR as one
[screenshot]
app then we can use guided access and a perfect scenario for a wall controlled iPad

P/S : The other image posted earlier was for a client RR which doesn’t need to be on all the time, hence using lock out in 2min

Also note if Weather is implemented on a large screen, it’s best to include in the room view with a toggle option just like the time clock. Honestly dashboard is great for a small setups for complex multi room multi devices Dashboard is not useful as you cannot have a separate dashboard for each device which is wall mounted for that room and would like to show activities for that room

How do you get the weather to display on the homebar ? It's on the ipad but does not show on my homebar.

Homebar Weather comes from your Primary Controller. So on a secondary, you should first check to be sure your Primary has Weather. (There is some bug I'm tracking down where secondaries around 2% of the time will not display weather then it fixes itself every time a few minutes later.)

2024

With v9 is there an updated API doc? with HTTP device commands I'm getting {"da":"BadParams","st":"fail","me":"Missing command array","co":400} vs the previous success and code 200. Thanks

The error message I receive is "Missing au parameter"

An updated API guide (HTTP Activity & Device Command Interface) would be much appreciated please.

Same here!
I’m glad I’m not the only one.

The document has now been updated. The names of properties were all shortened.

You will need to make trivial updates to any of your call sites from things like "activity_uuid" to "au" as per the updated interface document.

Thank you Will especially for the quick turnaround. In retrospect "au" being short for activity_uuid seems obvious now :smile:

FYI It looks like "device" is still needed for the device uuid vs "du"

DEBUG-->strSimpleControlString: { "cs" : [ { "ty" : "command", "pa" : { "cm" : "MUTE TOGGLE", "du" : "54D05999-97C4-467B-85C5-721955087475" } }] }
DEBUG-->strURL: http://192.168.1.120:47147/api/v1/sendcommands
DEBUG-->strReturn: {"da":"BadParams","st":"fail","me":"Missing device uuid","co":400}

DEBUG-->strSimpleControlString: { "cs" : [ { "ty" : "command", "pa" : { "cm" : "MUTE TOGGLE", "device" : "54D05999-97C4-467B-85C5-721955087475" } } ] }
DEBUG-->strURL: http://192.168.1.120:47147/api/v1/sendcommands
DEBUG-->strReturn: {"st":"success","da":{"se":"38855C76-90E1-43A9-BDD3-8F2F31C9249C"},"co":200}

Fixed.

2024

Will,

I really appreciate the addition of the "Show in Room" option for activities.

One (hopefully) minor enhancement request: Could the Activities list panel distinguish which activities are shown vs, hidden? Possibly a different font? Italics for a hidden activity?

Thanks much,
Jeff

Staff response: This is in 9.2.1.

2024

I am using the Shortcuts app to set up some automations with Roomie. One example is double-tapping the back of the phone to pause the current activity. This works very well!

However, when I do this I get a notification that I have to dismiss (see below).

Is there a way to run this shortcut without showing this notification banner?

If I disable the "Show When Run" toggle in the shortcut setup screen below, the notification banner won't show but Roomie Remote will not execute the action.

Is there a way for Shortcuts that work with Roomie Remote to run without that notification banner?

2024

Question: I have my own on-site VPN that I use to access security cameras. In the past I was also able to open Roomie Remote and control my entertainment system. I not sure when it changed as I did not use it often, however I now have an elderly parent that calls me to raise the volume when I'm not near enough to connect to my LAN.
So, do I forward port x to port y on my router? Maybe somehow that's changed? If so what are the value of ports x & y?
Does each device need their ports forwarded?
All help i...

Staff response: Roomie has no direct interaction with a VPN. Properly setup (which really just means a working VPN, there is no special magic I've ever heard about or used) VPN will pass Roomie traffic just fine, no port forwarding needed. The standard iPhone L2TP for example is what I use and it works well (to the Sonicwall L2TP server in my case).

Since it works for us and many others, you would want to look at your VPN settings to debug that. Clearly, some kind of traffic is getting mangled by your VPN.

So, if that changes anything for you, again I return to what I said before, "some kind of traffic is getting mangled by your VPN.". In this case, the UDP 47147 or 47148 port traffic is being affected by whatever your VPN is doing. That's the only protocol/port ever used between a client and the primary to relay traffic.

Across both SonicWall and Fortigate systems in recent years, I have yet to see this not work, so I'm not that familiar with "make sure you don't set this thing incorrectly" tips because it always works for me and users don't report things they needed to do to make it work.

I would note that one of the many new features of Roomie 10 is Secure Remote Access. Basically, you will route TCP port 47149 on your router/firewall and direct it to the Roomie Primary. Roomie will take care of the rest. (If you have used Plex, it works the same way.)

Roomie 10 should be reaching TestFlight in the next month or two.

2024

Very new to RoomieRemote

I wanted to add a custom device manually and did this in the app and it worked for a couple of commands, but I want to create a new device through import so that I can get all the commands. I have started to create a posit using the base ip template but I don’t’ know how to set the name of the device correctly nor how to specify tenet+linefeed.

Secondly, when I want to add button that sets a value, say set volume value, do I add ## to cover the number of digits to add? I have an example in my xml below.

Finally, I wanted to ask about the keys with a ‘.’ . Are they available to be read to that the result could be displayed on the remote - so .INPUTSTATUS could be displayed to show the input that is currently selected on the device? I’ve not started looking at how to make an actual remote for the device yet!

Anyway, I’ve pasted my simple plist xml below.

``


<plist version="1.0">
<array>
\t<dict>
\t\t<key>brand</key><string>Lyngdork TDAI 3400</string>
<key>cat</key><string>AV System</string>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>[elided]</dict>
\t\t<key>.INPUT STATUS</key><string>!SRCNAME?</string>
\t\t<key>.MODE STATUS</key><string>!VOINAME?</string>
\t\t<key>.MUTE STATUS</key><string>!MUTE?</string>
\t\t<key>.POWER STATUS</key><string>!PWR?</string>
\t\t<key>.VOLUME SET</key><string>!VOL(###)</string>
\t\t<key>.VOLUME STATUS</key><string>!VOL?</string>
\t\t<key>MUTE OFF</key><string>!MUTEOFF</string>
\t\t<key>MUTE ON</key><string>!MUTEON</string>
\t\t<key>POWER OFF</key><string>!OFF</string>
\t\t<key>POWER ON</key><string>!ON</string>
\t\t<key>PREVIOUS SOURCE</key><string>!SRCDN</string>
\t\t<key>NEXT SOURCE</key><string>!SRCDN</string>
\t\t<key>VOLUME UP</key><string>!VOLUP</string>
\t\t<key>VOLUME DOWN</key><string>!VOLDN</string>
\t</dict>
</array>
``

Staff response: Either you create it in the Custom Devices section inside the app which is very straightforward and you got working, or you need the DDK instructions from the Knowledge Base which answers your questions, that's the old way of creating Custom Devices. Probably simpler would be to use Roomie on macOS where you could paste codes from a document, etc. more easily.

2023

How do you setup a GC device and Roomie to work as a Home Theater remote?

Check out the setup guide around page 86:

RRUG83.pdf (roomieremote.com)

2023

Question: I’m wondering how far off the integration for SmartThings is. They now have a new advanced web app with my.SmartThings, looks quite good at first glance.

I was able to interact with my SmartThings switches but that vanished yesterday when I tried to pair again.

Staff response: No issues have been reported and this isn't where issues are reported. Only the ticket system in the app allows us to track everything properly. My understanding is SmartThings flushed most of their infrastructure some months ago and replaced with something else, so at this point assuming they changed the interfaces it would be like adding a new device. Which starts with the question: "are people still using this?"

I suspect we could easily support HE. As with SmartThings, this is all about the demand from users. The list of things we're asked to support is extensive, and meanwhile the list of things we do already support that often needs updating is also extensive. Though, in this case it's much easier to deal with a re-structured SmartThings because it's here and setup whereas we do not have HE yet. (But HE seems to be cheap so we probably wouldn't bother asking them for a free unit.)

2023

Hi there! I have a Yamaha Aventage RX-A6A which seems to work perfectly with Roomie Remote. However, I've added another device to my setup and am noticing that Input commands for HDMI 5, 6, and 7 are missing. Could those be added to the Yamaha configuration or is there a way I can do so? Thanks!

From what I've found, you'll need to use IR to get the full command library for any device. I'm not sure why IP control is so limited.

Certainly it is trivial to add add such commands. That's what the Custom Devices feature is for.

Because this is a forum post, there are too many details left out to suggest the actual codes as there are many control methods for Yamaha receivers. The Submit Feedback button provides us with the actual codeset you're using and from there adding 3 more inputs if they are needed should be trivial.

However, it sounds to me like the real issue is you're using the wrong codeset. The modern Yamaha codeset is YXC Zone 1. That set definitely already has HDMI 5, 6, and 7. It should have auto-discovered as such, but can also be added manually as per the details on the Compatibility page, so again those kinds of details are easy to determine in a real support ticket.

Ah that makes sense. I tried adding my receiver again and didn't see it show up on the Network Discovery but I typed Yamaha in the search and the RX-A6A showed up. Added that and it now shows the extra inputs I was missing! Thanks for the help!

2022

I'm trying to customize the design of the remote for an activity and it won't let me add a dpad within the module (it is grayed out). Is this by design or a bug? I've also noticed the issue when choosing the power icon sometimes it will show the icon but other times it just shows the word power. Resetting the activity seems to have fixed that issue but didn't fix allowing me to add a dpad.

For reference, I'm trying to set up an activity for AppleTV. I want a tray underneath for my TV and soundbar with all of the extra buttons to control them. So I'm trying to add a dpad for the directional buttons for my TV.

Staff response: Each device can have one of every module type in an Action Panel. So if you already have a DPad for a Primary Device, make sure the Activity includes (with or without commands) the other device(s) that need DPads (just Add Command, select the device, and tap Skip when selecting a command). The other device's DPad will then be included in the Action Panel as well. Some devices have numerous DPads, such as Denon receivers, and in that scenario all of the DPads can be found in the tray for that device.

2022

Is there any way to remove the camera feeds from showing up on the Roomie Dashboard on iPad?
Apparently it takes lots of power from the iPad that it hardly reaches to 100% battery charge.

Staff response: Each Room has an Add to Dashboard setting. If there are cameras you don't want displayed on the dashboard, assign them to a Room that has that setting turned off.

Separately, you may not be using the maximally powered charger for the device.

Thanks Will. I am using the iport base station for charging purposes. I have also tried their wall station and I am getting the same result.
Will try the Room option you recommended.

Thanks,

2022

Hey guys, Roomie Remote is excellent for all my products such as yamaha receiver and other devices like apple tv. However, I am hoping to step up my processor to Storm Audio ISP mk2. All the documents for IP control are available and I would love to hear back if this could potentially be added to Roomie Remote compatibiity? Thank you so much once again!

https://www.stormaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Stormaudio_isp_tcpip_api_protocol_fw4.3r0_v20.pdf

https://www.stormaudio.com/download-center/

I have the same Storm MK2 Processor and trying to figure how to specifically enter the codes when creating a custom device within Roomie. Check this forum out I found earlier ...
Storm Processor

Any luck with getting feedback for these processors?

2022

Question: Hey all,

In the release notes of 7.2 I see mention of improved support for hard button remotes using automation's. Is there any place I can read more details on what these remotes are and how I can use them?

Kind regards,
activ

Staff response: The support is generalized to all of the hard button remotes relative to the Automation panel. Pico remotes in particular though received special attention.

2022

Question: Hi,

After troubleshooting, here is the right config to make Roomie work on a SONY VPL-XW serie

on sony, the config shall be :
* From normal remote, set network ON
* From normal remote, set Web UI ON
* Go to the Web UI
* i set up a password you can remind
* ADCP (port 53595) ON and switched OFF authent
* DDDP ON
* SDDP ON

on roomie : the port shall be 53595
select any SONY VPL

Staff response: As mentioned many, many times throughout the forums, adding supplemental commands is very straightforward, but does require custom device support which is limited to specific subscriptions.

There are many obscure commands that may exist for various devices, some of them undocumented, and our Custom Devices support allows these to be added. Create your Custom Device, add the command(s) you want, and then create a supplemental device using the same IP and Port as your original main device based on the Custom Device you created. Commands to either the main device or supplemental device work together perfectly.

2022

a user.coetzee (#1):
Hi guys. I use and Iphone11 as the Preferred Primary device. I share Roomie with my wife on the same type of device. How do I get around this primary device setup? Do I really need to get a 3rd "always on" device in order for us to both to be able to use the remote simultaneously? No other way?

Staff response: Many configurations don't need it. Depends on your devices and whether you use any of the features that require it. The Setup Guide goes into pretty good detail on exactly that.

2021

Hi. It's been a while since I tried to really customize an activity and, even after re-reading the setup guide, I'm hitting a wall in a few areas. Here's what I've got: LG oled display, Tivo STB, and sonos arc.

Creating the activity was easy enough. I generally prefer having it come up with the gesture pad enables as pictured. What I really want to customize is both the row of buttons across the top of the gesture pad as well as the 4 buttons ON the gesture pad.

Ideally, I like nix the 'what I'm watching' section at the top as well in favor of another row of buttons.

Generally, when I try to customize anything involving the tivo in the design section, all the buttons are locked from editing.

Is it possible to accomplish what I'm trying to do?

2021

Question: I am new to RoomieRemote. I would like to send html commands to an application running on my Mac mini. The format is like this one: "http://user-mac.mini.local:8082/OpenRoon". I created a custom device using the http protocol and entered the codes, but this doesn't work. How should the code look like in Roomie? Can I send a command without creating a device first?

Staff response: Detailed documentation for custom code sets is in the DDK (see Knowledge Base: Setup Guides).

The 'code' in your case is simply "OpenRoon". Everything else is the device you create based on that custom code set.

Sounds like you're not actually dealing with an HTTP device because GET (or one of its many substitutes like POST) is required. If you're trying to simulate a browser open, you could just add a command to an Activity to open that URL directly and skip anything related to code sets.

2021

In the list of changes for the recent update it states support for Remote Buddy 2.0.
How do you use this, I’ve searched both help sections and there is no mention of how to use the two together...

Staff response: The same way you would expect it to work as a user of their product. Set the password in mobile access and turn it on.

Does Roomie support mouse movement on Remote Buddy?
I can connect and the menus, arrows / enter buttons work but the gesture pad does not move the mouse. The RB mobile app works fine with the mouse, so I guess the Mac is set up correctly.

2020

I've noticed in a few of the screenshots that Cover art is available on Kodi, Kaleidescape, etc while playing and a scrubber bar is also located under the art. I'm presently using Plex on a Shield and can get the Plex server integration working as well to select media directly from Roomie, but can't figure out how to show the presently playing and scrubber bar. How do I do this? TIA

Check out this post:

This feature is Roomie doesn't work with the Plex Android "New Player"

Interesting. Thanks for finding that! It appears that since February the New Player on Shield has improved drastically as I have not had any issues with it in quite some time.

Would be interested to see if development for it could again be considered.

(also love the Mr. Sparkles profile pic)

2020

Question: Has anybody figured out how to get the new Ubiquiti Profect RTSP working with Roomie? I had the last server-based version working, but for some reason I can’t get this new hardware version working..

Staff response: Try turning off Hardware Acceleration.

Though 7447 is a highly non-standard port, so could imply some weirdness with that unit.

The camera has no authentication? Why does that URL work in VLC as that would imply there is no username/password which would be very unusual.

2020

Question: Been using RR for quite a while. Currently controlling nine devices. Am controlling xFinity DVR with IP blaster. Have not played with any voice commands. House comes with xFinity (Comcast) which supports many voice commands. The command I would like to add to RR is "Skip ahead four minutes". Is it possible to do this?
Thanks for any help. Nick

Staff response: There are many ways to do that. All of them equally functional. Siri or Alexa, creating a series of commands, etc. Inline Activity or many other options such as "tell Simple Control to skip 6 times in the master bedroom", etc. Our Setup Guide is replete with numerous such examples. The Shortcuts app could also play into whatever you want to do.

You just hold the button that is right next to the "hold" text down, say what you want as your command, and then release the button.

No.

But also, please try things before just posting to the forum.

2020

Question: Hello All-

I am on a 7 day trial with roomie remote and only have a couple of days left. I have some basic activities configured and they seem to be running OK but I am having 2 issues:

1). I watch PLEX via an Apple TV or directly from my MacMini using PLEX media player. When I set these devices up there was a spot to put my username and password for both the AppleTV and the MacMini using PLEX Media Player but there is no media guide for either device. Is there a setting I am missing somewh...

Staff response: 1. You need to discover the Plex Media Player as a device on your Apple TV. Open PMP on your ATV, then go to Devices in your ATV device and tap the Discover Plex button. After reloading everything, you should then be able to access your Plex media assuming your Plex server is configured per the Compatibility page.

2. Activities->Room Name->System Off.

Note that these are both in the Setup Guide which is really highly recommend (required) reading for setup.

PMP exists on macOS, ATV, Shield, etc. – we are compatible with any PMP implementation. This is distinguished from non-PMP Plex implementations such as the one that runs on Roku.

> What do you mean “discover … as a device”

The button in your AppleTV Device in Roomie's Devices panel. Don't get creative with ports, let auto-discovery do its work and handle that for you.

The button in your AppleTV Device in Roomie’s Devices panel

See above. Your steps do not match the description. The special Plex discovery button for Apple TV is inside the Apple TV Devices panel.

2020

Feature request and discussion about implementing an on-state delay mechanism to handle devices that require time to stabilize after power-on, preventing command conflicts during startup sequences.

2019

Does remote access still work with version 5.7? If yes, how do you set it up? How will it work under version 6? If VPN is required (I have OpenVPN working on my pfSense router), then what additional steps are required to make either version 5 or 6 work via OpenVPN on iOS?

Staff response: If you had V5 remote access working before, it should continue to work for you. See the 5.7 Setup Guide.

If you have OpenVPN already setup on your systems, V6 should also work seamlessly with that. Just connect the VPN.

2019

I was wondering if it's possible to automatically show a tray?

For my example I really like basic remotes, I don't need the 100 buttons on my physical remote to operate my TV. So I make fully custom remotes which can only be achieved to my liking "layout wise" if I have all of the buttons in a tray.
(I prefer orderly rows/grid style so I can easily rearrange my buttons to anywhere I want them to be not having the d-pad allocated area in the middle of the screen blowing my grid style out).

FYI Heres an example of my old setup:

Heres an example of my ongoing new setup where I have to hit the Samsung logo to show the tray containing all my channel custom buttons (not lucky enough to have an integrated guide here in Australia):

Impressive layouts. Wish I had the patience for that.

2019

Hi, I am another iRule to Simple Control convert.

I have almost everything working with Simple control but I am struggling with one of my custom devices. My Yamaha receiver has 4 zones. The built-in definitions only cover zone 1 & 2. I have gone through the DDK documentation and added custom codes. However, the codes for the Yamaha are XML and I think I have the formatting messed up. Has anyone else run into this? Below is what the config looks like:

\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>brand</key>
\t\t\t<string>Yamaha</string>
\t\t\t<key>cat</key>
\t\t\t<string>Zone 3</string>
\t\t\t<key>codes</key>
\t\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t\t<key>POWER OFF</key>
\t\t\t\t<string>POST /YamahaRemoteControl/ctrl
\t\t\t\tContent-Type: text/xml
\t\t\t\t
\t\t\t\t<YAMAHA_AV cmd="PUT"><Zone_3><Power_Control><Power>Standby</Power></Power_Control></Zone_3></YAMAHA_AV></string>
\t\t\t\t<key>POWER ON</key>
\t\t\t\t<string>POST /YamahaRemoteControl/ctrl
\t\t\t\tContent-Type: text/xml
\t\t\t\t
\t\t\t\t<YAMAHA_AV cmd="PUT"><Zone_3><Power_Control><Power>On</Power></Power_Control></Zone_3></YAMAHA_AV></string>
\t\t\t</dict>
\t\t\t<key>method</key>
\t\t\t<string>http</string>
\t\t\t<key>type</key>
\t\t\t<integer>16</integer>
\t\t</dict>

The raw XML is:
<Power>On</Power>

BBEdit wont save the file unless I escape the characters.

Thanks!

I did not have any success combining custom commands with the predefined ones. i think you can only have one or the other. I deleted the predefined device, added my custom plist with all the commands I needed, updated the config file, and then re-added the receiver with the new commands as defined by only my new plist.

Thanks for the response. I added a new device manually for use with the custom commands. When sniffing the network traffic I can see a command being sent to the device, but the the XML data isn't present. Do you happen to have examples of custom codes for Yamaha or any other device that requires XML commands?

Thanks again,

Watch out with the leading space before the header. It seems to matter. I had a similar issues (not XML, but needing to pass Basic Auth header) and it didn't work till I noticed the HTTP example in the DDK documentation explicitly removes the indents before the header lines and the content.

That was it! Thank you so much for responding, I don't think I would have caught that!
This is the working version if anyone else runs into this issue:

\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>brand</key>
\t\t\t<string>Yamaha</string>
\t\t\t<key>cat</key>
\t\t\t<string>Zone 3</string>
\t\t\t<key>codes</key>
\t\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t\t<key>POWER OFF</key>
\t\t\t\t<string>POST /YamahaRemoteControl/ctrl
Content-Type: text/xml; charset=UTF-8

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<YAMAHA_AV cmd="PUT"><Zone_3><Power_Control><Power>Standby&l...

2019

In modifying the default button order for a device in an activity, I relocated the command buttons by moving them up and down relative to each other, but when I click on Preview to look at the changes, the command button's locations have changed but are not in the order in which I have put them. Can anyone give me any insight as to how this new version determines the order of the command buttons on both the dpad and the tray?

Since this post is 18 days old perhaps you have solved this already, or moved on. Anyway, the ordering does seem somewhat non-intuitive but as best I can tell, it starts from the middle and sort of works outwards: so if memory serves me correctly it's something along the lines of: middle button first, then the 1st to the right, then 1st to the left, then 2nd to the left, and then finally 2nd to the right, then next row. My guess is this is to accommodate different size screens. Try some experimentation with moving them around.

Staff response: This is what support sends out for this question:

Tray layout:

* First, larger elements such as DPads and rockers are laid out.
* During layout, any lack of room for the item on a page will move it to the next page.
* Items are laid out from the center, then right, then left until the current page is filled. The size of a page is determined by the current device screen and orientation.
* The above layout is executed in the order listed in the Design editor.

Margin promotion:

Any command from the tray is eligible for promotion to margins if it is a normal button (non-list, etc.), and has a title of 7 characters or less with no image. Buttons are promoted in the order listed in the Design editor prior to any tray layout.

2018

Hi,

I'm in the process of setting up a multi-room Simple Control environment for a friend of mine. I'd like to be able to administer updates and changes to his configuration remotely from my home, as I'm pretty sure there are going to be issues to iron out.

I've purchased an Unlimited Simple Service subscription for him and setup his account. Reading through the section in the User Guide 5.5 on MultiHome, I understand he will require this subscription in order to invite me to manage his location and provide me with admin privileges, but what's not clear to me is whether I also need to have the same subscription.

I purchased a subscription for 30 devices in an older app, so not an unlimited subscription in the current app.
Will I still be able to control his configuration and provide him with the support I'm looking for?

Many thanks
Dave C

2018

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if I can use a Elgato Eve Energy switch via HomeKit to turn my equipment on and off at the power point?
Unfortunately Belkin's Wemo switches are no longer sold in Australia and would like a power switch to turn on my valve amplifier.
Thanks for your help.
Peter

Staff response: I see no reason why that shouldn't work as a HomeKit Trigger in SC. It's a HomeKit accessory. We support HomeKit. In general there is no reason to ask about any particular accessory. Assuming that switch operates normally through HomeKit, any of its attributes should be able to be used in a trigger.

2018

I have a Marantz SR6012 with Zone 2 capabilities. What I'm trying to do is play Pandora from my Roku then send a video signal (say a Wii) via the zone 2 HDMI to the TV. Essentially I want to play Wii bowling while still listening to Pandora through my Marantz receiver.

Couple of questions about how SC5 works with zone 2...
Do I add Zone 2 as a separate device?
Should the "remote" for zone 2 control only the zone 2 functionality?

I've tried doing the above but when I added an activity to turn on zone 2 and bring up the zone 2 remote, the media playing on through my receiver stopped. When I change the input on the zone 2 remote it appears to change in the input on the zone 1 remote to the same thing as well.

Any help would be appreciated.

2018

Question: I am about to embark on a new build and looking to tie everything together with, I hope SimpleControl. I use Plex for nearly all my media service beyond maybe spotify and few others. I found that SimpleControl seems to be by far the best integration of Plex. I am looking to get help building my system, as I will more than likely be using a MoIP setup with several TV's and Audio locations. My problem lies in that I have not found any resource for finding a builder that uses SimpleControl as their...

Staff response: Likely SnapAV would use the same codes as their matrix switchers so you could try those. In any case, assuming you have access to the codes for a product, we publish how to add custom devices:

2018

Question: Now that the remotes are consolidated and not customisable, without forcing legacy. Like many others I had a multi functional remote.

I like the new design that adds these common functions to one remote and am currently trying to shift moving to using it.

My main problem is using SKY Q, the default remote for every version of SKY Q or HD has different button layouts.

On the iPhone the home button, a key button for use is not available unless you expand the remote. Minor? Maybe but the remotes...

Staff response: Yes. Probably this coming week.

I think you're saying that you want to add a button to the empty spot in your DPad? The Add Button option is incorrectly disabled in that case and that will be fixed.

2018

Question: FYI As also happened at iOS 11.0.0, Apple seems to have broken Guided Access in iOS 12.0 GM. Even if auto-lock is set to Never, the device goes to sleep after 20 minutes. If you use an iOS 12 device as a Simple Hub, make sure to keep Guided Access turned off for now until they fix this. Auto-Lock works properly when Guided Access is turned off. The only downside to turning it off is that system-wide modal alerts do interrupt the app. These are very rare, but they include the alert that says some...

I would strongly encourage everyone to report this bug to Apple for prioritization purposes. Multiple bug reports is actually how they prioritize things. They fixed it quickly in iOS 11 around 11.0.1 or 2 so hopefully they'll get to this quickly as well.

I haven't tested it personally because I am subscribed to so many things that would immediately tell me if they fixed it. It's all over the web. This thread is a good summary:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8433367

Again, I highly encourage everyone to report this bug individually to Apple. One person reporting with a long thread is not relevant. Many people reporting is.

Anyway, I would suggest the following as solutions in order of preference:
1. Don't upgrade to iOS 12 on your Hub device. iOS 11 works great.
2. Don't use Guided Access, simply be aware of the alert that blocks apps when you add a new device to your iCloud account. If you add a new device, tap the alert on your Hub. Not really a big deal.
3. Switch to tvOS 12 or macOS.

We have a radically different solution coming in V6, but that will be well into 2019.

iOS 12.1.1 introduced a fix for this issue, but requires a change to a new setting introduced in this release to prevent the screen from sleeping: General > Accessibility > Guided Access > Mirror Display Auto-Lock > ON.

We believe it is now safe again to use Guided Access on your Simple Hub with iOS 12.1.1+.

2018

Question: I have a simple control blaster with an epson home cinema 4010. I’ve added it in the custom code sets, learned the ir commands, but no response.. I’ve also tried adding it as a custom device using port 4352 and no luck. The ‘telnet ipaddress 4352’ thing doesn’t yield a confirmed response.

Any idea why the learned ir commands don’t work? I’ve placed the blaster and the tentacles or whatever they’re called, in front of the remote receiver on the projector so I think I’m doing it right... any ...

Staff response: IR learning is a highly analog process you would never want to perform except in extremely rare cases. If you have heard of the brand, or if it is in any way popular, the device is already in our library. Epson is one of the biggest brands in the market, it is quite safe to say the built-in codes are perfect and in use by many users.

(Note that this is an example of the kind of posts that get moderated out because they're run of the mill support, this seems like a good reminder as so many users try to learn IR codes for no reason that I often feel like it would be better to take IR learning as a feature out.)

2018

I have all commands working fine, but nothing I do can get a Media guide to come up when in Plex, so I do not get the pretty icons at the top when I am playing movies / TV shows. I am in the UK, could this be the issue or should it work anyway?

I've deleted and recreated the Plex device loads of times, but no luck...

Staff response: I've seen a few tickets like that over the years. It looks like it's usually a misconfiguration of your Plex server. Support can assist in narrowing it down.

Found it. It was the Plex password entered in the device area. I had changed the password, but cannot have updated my password manager.

So for anyone else who has this issue, if you can control Plex OK with SM but not see anything in the guide then check your Plex user name / password is correct

Will, as a suggestion is it possible to add a routine checking the password as its entered, currently there is no indication that its right or wrong?

2017

I just moved into the Pittsburgh area and have a local company called Armstrong cable. They have rolled out an integrated Tivo based system using from what I can determine are Arris Manufactured, then rebranded Pace boxes with the Tivo thin client running on them. They use standard Tivo remotes (which from what I understand are RF based)

There are 2 box types, a client box and the DVR box. They are the MG1 and Mi3 boxes from Arris as far as I can tell.
[url]http://www.arris.com/products/pace-set-tops/
[/url]

I am wondering what the opportunities would be for controlling these types of boxes through the Simple Control interface, as they have no IR input?

Does anyone have any experience with this equipment?

Thanks,
Mike

Staff response: Best way to find out is to try it. Usually the secondary TiVos are either treated as a full TiVo (the Roamio/Premiere set) or at minimum support the older TiVo control on 31339 (see the compatibility list).

2017

Hi,

I have a multi-room HT and TV set up fully functioning with iRule but am moving to SC. I currently have all my HT devices set up either through direct IP or serial to IP using iTach IP2SL units. So I was wondering: can I keep the same hardware set up and just switch over the software?

I have several Lumagen video processors and they are not mentioned on the compatibility list. They are all currently controlled via serial to IP. Will these devices be easily integrated?

The other devices I have I think are not a problem (TIVOs, Meridian surround processors, JVC projector, Panasonic plasma TVs).

Thanks for any comments.

Staff response: Looks straightforward. This seems to be their doc:

lumagen.com/docs/Tip0011_RS2 ... 072516.pdf

This link provides the DDK with samples of how to add custom devices:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... om-device/

2017

Do I need to set my Sony TV IP addresses to static? I am having issues with my TV's not turning on occasionally when I start and activity.

Models- 55x850d and 65x850d

Staff response: We always recommend Static IPs for all devices, the Setup Guide goes over that in detail many times.

Also, Version 5 introduced improvements in multiple areas related to this, so make sure to use V5. Combined with Static IPs, that should be quite solid.

2017

I just saw Elgato released the Eve for HomeKit, I'm wondering if anyone has used something similar in SimpleControl?
I don't have the ability to use Nest in my building (thru the wall ACs and central heating) but I would like to monitor my environment, especially while I'm away.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Staff response: Best solution is to wait for Simple Control 5 which has extensive HomeKit integration. That will be a much better path than trying to find a secondary protocol to talk to that device.

2017

My Sony TV shows up as a Google Bravia 4K device, not a TV. I have it working as I added it manually and its fine, but it seems a little odd.

Staff response: It is a bit of an odd naming, basically we're trying to distinguish from the discovery of the TV as a Chromecast device, and the discovery of the TV as a normal Sony TV device. From our perspective, they're unrelated. There's a Chromecast inside the TV basically and we're offering that as a separate piece. In the case of a Sony TV, since they basically always support Wake on LAN these days, there is probably no value in adding the Chromecast device for it. That's really more useful for cases like nVidia Shield, etc.

2017

I'm running Simple Hub for macOS v4.5.11 (1304) on a MacMini with macOS-Sierra.

Over-all, it works pretty good. However, I am experincing some strange behavior. I'm not sure if this is by-design or not (I wouldn't think so).

So, my main coffee-table Remote is an old iPhone-5 with no-SimCard. It's in Guided Mode. The option in Settings to Prevent Editing is enabled. In Simple-Hub for macOS, this Remote is Locked.

At the Remote, you must enter PIN to get past Lock. Even after clicking Done, it repeatedly stays Locked as it should. However, if you enable Editing in Settings (so you can just view some programming ... it's forever Un-Locked. Even if I re-Enable Prevent Editing, the Remote acts like it's un-Locked (doesn't ask for PIN any more).

For now (as a work-around) ... after I check some of the Remote's programming, I have to go into the office where the MacMini is. I have to use the Simple-Hub interface to un-Lock this particular remote and then Lock it again. Only then will it correctly ask for a PIN again.

Also, during this scenario, I noticed the Remote's icon in Simple-Hub for macOS doesn't always reflect it's true status.

So, is it a glitch or am I doing something incorrectly?

2017

I just installed AT&T U-Verse with a Cisco ISB-7500 Set Top Box and a SO30-S1B remote. Is it possible to get a facsimile of the remote as I did with the XFinity remote? Thank you.

Staff response: The Original Remotes feature was deprecated many years ago. It's far more important to provide feedback about the show being watched, where you are in it, etc. and doing really anything was not compatible with the idea of displaying a perfect simulacrum of an original remote. While the feature technically still exists, it is fully deprecated in 5.0 later this year.

However, our DDK provides a complete sample of exactly that. If you're willing to make it, you can construct it via the instructions there. At this point old Remote Designs like that will still be compatible with 5.0 (subject to change as it is still well before release) so that will probably work going forward as well.

We recommend using a normal Virtual Remote for such boxes.

2017

**I recently had to wipe my simple control device and rebuild all my menus. I used to have color icons for all of my activities, but now despite having chosen the same color icons I used to use, they menus use greyscale instead.

I've fixed this once before but forgot how. Anybody know how?

**I think maybe I saw an option to make all icons grayscale?

2017

Question: My Sony BluRay will not turn on using IP, does anyone have the same issue?

I have the remote on option on, and once it is on all works perfectly. I have it working fine as I have a spare port on my IR blaster, so use that just to turn it on, then IP for everything else, but I'd prefer it if it could work as it should.

Staff response: It's a Wake on LAN model. This KB article shows how to power that on:

Given that it is a known WoL model, most likely the unit itself is not configured, there are usually settings related to sleep/wake/quickstart that need to be on, or the format of the MAC Address is incorrect. Can only take guesses in a forum.

2017

Unfortunately I still have one device left in my configuration that doesn't have discrete power off/on. Luckily, Simple Control offers the "Track Power State" option for power toggle devices. But I'm seeing inconsistent behavior trying to use it. So I have a couple of questions.

1. Is the power state tracked on each iOS device or is it supposed to be synched through the hub?

2. The User Guide (pg 35) says " Puts a power toggle control on the list of Devices (in Edit mode) so that you can easily switch the Device to the desired power setting if it gets out of sync". I don't see this device anywhere.

3. I setup a "sleep" activity that uses a timer-based trigger to invoke a room's System Off activity after a period of time. It consistently fails to power off the toggled device even though manually selecting the room's System Off activity does power it off (is this a bug that should be reported?)

Jeff

Have you tried clicking on the little icon and the centre bottom? In mine there is a power toggle tucked away in there.

Could you clarify which little icon what center bottom? In the bottom of the action panel?

Oh, re-readiing your post. You mean the icon on the main action panel that opens to show the additional remote commands? I know there's a power command there.You're suggesting I just use that command to get the device into the desired state?

I think that that is what they mean....

2017

Question: Hi just thought I'd ask here if anyone else was having this issue.
Just bought an IR Blaster, set it up and cannot send commands via my iPhone.
No problem with an iPad. It works, can open the blaster settings etc on iPad, but nothing on the iPhone, just weird.
I can log in the web interface on my laptop but not on my iPhone.
Hopefully there is a simple solution, but just can't figure it out.

Staff response: The only logical and obvious explanation would be that your iPhone is not on Wi-Fi but is on LTE instead. Whereas your iPad is.

2017

There isn’t much worth watching on Australian free-to-air TV these days except live sport, especially compared with all the streaming options we have now. But for those who lament the lack of an Australian TV Guide in Simple Control, here’s my step-by-step guide to adding some basic guide functionality.

(If you read back in the forum archive, it seems like they were hoping to have Australian guide data available in Simple Control by the end of 2013 - but I guess that didn’t pan out…)

INSTRUCTIONS

1. In Simple Control, select the room where you want to add a TV Guide button, e.g. "Lounge Room". Select the “Pencil” edit button to the right of the room name, and then select “Add Activity”. You could also add a TV Guide button within an existing Activity, but I prefer the guide to be available from any activity.

2. Give the Activity a Title and choose an Image. Select the “Add Command” option, then choose the “URL” option. At this stage you can either link to a TV Guide App (my preferred option), or link to a TV Guide website.

2A. LINK TO APP
- Download an Australian TV Guide App from the App Store. I like the free “OzTV” App - appsto.re/au/5uJH6.i (I have no affiliation with the creator of this App)
- In the Simple Control Add Command window enter the URL and Opens settings as follows:

\tURL: oztv://
\tOpens: in Safari

- Select “Save” and then “Save” again.
- Note that if you choose a different TV Guide App you would need to find out the correct URL setting for that App.

2B. LINK TO WEBSITE
- I find using an App more responsive, but if you prefer to link to a TV Guide website - find out the URL from your web browser (e.g. au.tv.yahoo.com) and enter the following settings in the Simple Control Add Command window:

URL: au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/
Opens: in Roomie

3. Back on the main screen, select the “Edit” button to turn off edit mode. Select your TV Guide Activity - if you linked to an App it will now open. There is a new feature in iOS 9 that adds a “Back to SimpleControl” option in the top left hand corner of the App, so now you can jump between Simple Control and your TV Guide App with a single click. If you chose to link to a website it will now open in the built-in Simple Control web browser. Click on “Done” when you’re finished and you will be back on the main screen.

OPTIONAL
Make switching channels easier and add some logos for each station

1. Do a google search and download some Australian TV Channel logos, for example:

github.com/AshKyd/australian-tv-network-logos

2. Follow the instructions for adding Custom Images to Simple Control in this Support Article:

simplecontrol.com/knowledgeb ... om-images/

3. In Simple Control, edit your existing “Watch TV” Activity, select “Remote Design” and then “Add Button”. Select “Button” as the button type.

4. In the Edit Button window choose one of the custom images you added in Step 2, for example the Channel 9 logo.

5. Select the “Add Command” option, then select your TV from the list of devices, e.g. SONY. Now select the DIGIT command (or equivalent for your TV model) for the first digit of the TV channel number. Repeat this step for each digit. For our Channel 9 example (channel number 090), I would end up with the following list of commands:

DIGIT 0
DIGIT 9
DIGIT 0

6. Select “Save”, and then repeat steps 3 to 6 for each channel you wish to add.

7. Once you’ve added all the required channels, select “Save” on the Edit Activity window and return to the main screen.

There you have it - Australian TV Guide capability and some pretty logos for channel surfing.

It took me a while to work all this out when I first started using Simple Control - so I hope this might help someone else who’s just starting out.

Hi, do you think this link is still valid ? It does nothing on my ipod touch and I have the app installed !!

2016

I have been trying to link my Simple Control account to the Alexa skill. My simple control iphone clients is synced to Simple Sync application on the Mac. All the settings are consistent with the documentation. The linking seems to be accepted in the Alexa app.

However, when I issue a voice command, Alexa informs me that I need to link my simple control account via the Alexa app. (I have tried to disable and enable this link however Alexa keeps telling me that the app needs to be linked).

What am I doing wrong

Staff response: Normally we don't moderate up common support questions like this as we handle them very quickly in support without filling up the forums with the same question multiple times. In this case, I think it's worth a reminder in the forum as the Echo support is quite popular.

First, the answer to the question is, 95% of the time, you're not signed in to Simple Control with an account licensed for Simple Sync with Simple Service. The other 5% of the time, the user simply forgot to enable "Allow Remote Access" in Settings under Simple Sync. Linking with Alexa is an important step, but using "Sign In" from Simple Control and then (or in reverse order works fine too) pairing with Simple Sync is equally critical. Then make sure to Allow Remote Access.

For further reference, the Simple Sync User's Guide and Echo Integration Guide covers these topics in precise detail. The latest versions of those documents are always kept here:

simplecontrol.com/knowledgebase/whats-new/
simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... up-guides/

These kinds of simple questions are usually filtered directly to support so they don't clutter the forums. We can tell you with a diagnostic what the issue is in your case in seconds looking at that.

2016

Staff response: A couple weeks ago, Oppo issued a firmware update that broke the default method of IP control. We have provided them with the necessary information to resolve.

In the meantime, if you are having trouble controlling a 10X model of Oppo BD player, we recommend switching to a method of control we didn't announce but is in fact already in all editions of Simple Control. Add the unit via Manual IP on port 436 and select the "Media Control" category. That method is actually more functional than the default method. Until we fully certify this new method, I'd recommend switching back to the default IP control when the original IP control is fixed by Oppo however.

Is this going to require an firmware update from Oppo to fix?
Is this going to be fixed anytime soon?

Staff response: This is all now working well. Oppo changed some formatting in their August firmware update. We changed to accommodate that in version 4.5.4 released this week.

Note that the alternate method on port 436 still works fine, but now the default method has been restored to its previous functionality.

2016

The Simple Control Amazon/Echo guide states that you can set a default room to shorten commands by using "Alexa, Tell Simple Control to set current room to XXX".

What is the duration/persistence of this command? How long does it stay in effect and what actions will cause it to be reset?

I am having trouble with the Echo/Simple Control syntax and trying to use the "set room" to simplify the voice control context, but it is confusing as to when I need or do not need to be specific about the Simple Control Room name.

Is there a voice command / status to ask Alexa what room is the current "Default" for Simple Control?

Staff response: I can't recall offhand if the change to remember this permanently is in 3.3.0 or 3.2.1, but going forward yes it is remembered long term. You can easily check that by quitting Simple Sync and issuing a command without a room. 3.3.0 (about to be released) has it if 3.2.1 didn't.

2016

**Is there anyway to send a command to execute a Lutron Radio RA2 Timeclock event? The specific usecase I am currently trying to solve is adding a button to enable or disable Lutron Motion Detectors. The telnet command would execute a time clock event which could include enabling or disabling a motion detector in the system: #TIMECLOCK,4,5,3<CR><LF>

**I haven't done this myself but it should be simple.

Assign a timeclock mode to a phantom button on your main repeater in essentials. Then in Simple Control add a button that presses the phantom button you assigned your time clock mode too. Should be that simple!

**Hey tartel926 - Thanks for your thoughts on this. Unfortunately the Lutron software is limited to programming phantom/scene buttons to Timeclock Modes, and NOT Timeclock Events. If I assigned a Simple Control button press to ultimately set a Timeclock Mode, that Lutron timeclock mode would need to contain an event to run every second or so to either "enable" or "disable" motion. That is why I was thinking the solution could be within Simple Control.

2016

There doesn't appear to be a way for me to customize the iOS notifications widget. I'd like to be able to add a button that allows me to skip all commercials on my TiVo - without needing to launch the full remote. Any way to do that currently??

Staff response: All of the buttons on the widget are customizable. They are simply brought over from the current Remote Design. First, the TopBar is added including any customized buttons you have there. Then, the entire DPad is added. Finally, the most common 6 button positions from the PlayPad are added. So anything you have customized in any of the places on your Remote Design is already added.

2016

Is there a way of using the status of a keypad button as feedback for a button in Simple Control? The current "brightness" only works with the primary button that controls the load. In ISY, using the REST interface, I can obtain the status of secondary keypad buttons.

For example, the following url request returns the status of button 5 on a keypad:

[code]http://my.isy.address/rest/status/33%202%2034%205[/code]

and returns the following:

[code]
-<properties>
<property id="ST" uom="%/on/off" formatted="On" value="255"/>
</properties>[/code]

It would allow feedback for things like fan speed as well as the ability to use secondary buttons as device triggers. Can I accomplish this with a Simple Hub?

Thanks
Rob

2016

Question: Hi,

I have a 2015 UN40JU6400 Samsung UHD Smart TV that works great but is a pain to automate. After working for many hours on the IP configuration of my TV, I found that the generic Samsung IR definition seemed to fit best with my remote building.

In browsing the compatibility guides here, I saw that Samsung supports serial thru the Ex-Link connector. I think that this may be my best bet, but before I buy another Simple Blaster and the related accessories, I wanted to ask a couple of questio...

Staff response: There is no question that while Samsung has been improving their IP control each year and now at last some 2016 models can be turned on and completely controlled via IP, previous models with serial EX-Link are usually best controlled via EX-Link.

Personally, I set them up as all three. But EX-Link is the gold standard for Samsung TV control to be sure. IR works great with Samsung but the last 2-3 years their bezels have been inconvenient for emitter positioning so I generally hook them up for IR with a blaster.

Attach the Simple Serial Cable to the Simple Blaster and then get a 3.5mm adapter like this one for the TV side:

amazon.com/dp/B006QSQVBM/?tag=cyphersoft-20

2016

Hi

I'm new to SimpleControl, but I have a lot of experience getting remotes to work with my theater systems. My new theater has a 40" Samsung Smart TV, which from reading the groups here, I can't turn on the TV using ip.

Is the best way to handle this situation is to have 2 definitions of the Samsung TV - one IR just for the power, and the other definition IP to perform the body of the work? Is that how the other folks here get around the dead IP when the TV power is off?

Without this tidbit of help I can't build the rest of my system.

Thanks for the advice.

Michael
Samsung TV: UN40JU6400 2015

I would also love to know the answer of this...I haven't purchased my TV yet but I was hoping that the 2016 Samsung TVs would be full ip controllable. Any word on this?

4 out of 5 TVs in my house are made by Samsung (3 of which are Smart TVs of varying generations - mostly in the last couple of years.)

I currently have two setup working with Simple control and plan to setup the third at some point.

You have the right idea regarding controlling the TV with two separate devices within the Simple Control app.

For my bedroom TV I am using a Simple Control IR WiFi controller to control power on a Onkyo Receiver (TX-NR646) which is capable of being controlled through IP is not hardwired and thus seems to require the IR to turn on and off and than is controlled via WiFi after and my Bedroom Samsung TV.

For the main room I am using a Global Cache IP controller plugged into the IR control plug on the rear of the TV to turn on the TV.

I agree it would be nice for Samsung to allow a power on signal to be sent to the TV via IP... perhaps since connected homes are becoming more and more common it will start to become the norm in the future.

Scott

twitter.com/SimpleCtrl/status/7 ... 7602283520

Simple Control ‏@SimpleCtrl 4 mei
After many years, we can finally confirm via direct testing that (some) Samsung’s 2016 TVs at last support full IP control + power on!

2016

Hi - I am struggling with some of the behavior in Simple Control. In Edit Room, I have always left Activity Layout as "Size to Fit" and have been happy with the outcome. Now with Simple Control 4.0x the activity title is gone, leaving just the icon for each activity. It can be a little confusing if you have multiple lighting commands for example with very similar icons.

The only way to get the titles back is to go to Activity Layout and change it to large icons. Unfortunately for me, Now instead of 2 neat columns or buttons I have to scroll to find all the room's activities. It's not a big issue but I sure liked the 2 columns of buttons better.

In the interest of getting 4.0.2 out immediately, some of the improvements to the Activity layout styles are continuing and will appear in near-term maintenance releases. The next release will resolve the text issue in smaller styles. For now changing a room to the larger layout styles or removing the image will show text. Also, simply highlighting any button in the smaller styles also shows the text.

2015

Hi,

I have recently purchased Roomie and so far I love it and have quite a few devices setup (albeit being a complete novice).

I was wondering if it was possible to have my Plex guide from PMS to show on the Amazon fire TV activity. It currently shows on my PHT activity (PHT and PMS run on the same server) but would be good to have this on the Amazon Fire TV too as I have plex installed on there too.

Many thanks,

Daryl

2015

Question: I bought a SnapAV B-500-MTRX-230 8x8 HDMI Matrix with the intention of using Simple Control, but I am having trouble controlling it. I've installed the matrix successfully and can control inputs/outputs using SnapAV's configuration utility that runs through the RS232 port. I assigned the matrix a static IP on my network and I can ping the IP and get a response. I then successfully added a device using the Manual IP and port 23 (as shown in the compatibility list). But I cannot seem to get th...

Staff response: Have you tried using telnet and issuing commands directly to it to verify functionality?

Also a reminder that the forums are not a support venue. If you're looking for support, please use the Contact Support button in the app.

2015

Is there a video or help in setting up iBeacons? I just got 3 of them, for my 3 tv rooms, and configured them (They are Gimbal beacons $5/ea!!!, configured as iBeacon, and iBeacon (An apple app, see them).

How do I tell which one is in which room in the Settings? I do not see a place to specify which iBeacon (of my three), it should use to trigger the events for a room?

I must be missing something.

This FAQ describes how to setup iBeacons:

Roomie Remote Support (Roomie Remote Support)

If you're not using the recommended iBeacons from Estimote as described there, you will need to enter your private Roomie ID ("home" in your Roomie configuration file) manually into whatever configuration interface is provided by your beacons.

Is there any way to support the Gimbal iBeacons natively? They are easy to buy at $5 each, and easy to change to iBeacon support from their native support.

What would supporting them "natively" mean to you? Any iBeacon certified by Apple should work fine, but anything other than Estimote just requires you to tell it what your home ID is.

ok, but I do not see a place to put home id in their config files.

When I configure them for iBeacon, I enter a UUID, a long series of numbers I make up along with a major and minor of 1 and 1

Is that UUID number where I would put the home id from the roomie config?

Yes, the home ID is a UUID.

Where is the roomie config file on an IOS device?

To get your Home ID in order to configure third-party non-Estimote beacons, backup to Dropbox and open the file "Roomie.plist" with a good text editor. Under the word "home" will be a long series of letters and numbers in this basic format:

CD091974-AB7A-4EF1-ADA7-7693A5B51033

That's what you need (the above is just an example). Remember to keep that ID private.

This is great. Gimbal sells ibeacons, well their version, for $5 each.

All you do is reload them as iBeacons and put in your home id as UUID and they work

Cheap! The have temperature sensors in them too!

The only downside is that when the battery dies, you need to reload then from a website to their bluetooth. They do tell you when the power is getting low and you can change batteries without losing the firmware (you have about 15 seconds)..

Philhu - how did you get the Gimbal's to be recognized by Roomie? I've configured then with the UUID and appropriate major and minors but can't get the Roomie software to recognize them...

2014

HI,

Love the new addition to control VLC 2.1 with Roomie and am using it for viewing Live TV streams from my Network PVR. While customizing the remote I'm trying to accomplish a couple of things for the Watch TV activity.

1/ Open a Channel Guide for TV listings. This is not an option for some reason. It is on the Plex Activity, but not the VLC. Is it because I added it as a Manual device?

2/ Using the gesture panel of the default remote I could open the Playlist Browser, is there a way to wither open this with the Activity or using a button? I want to be able to do this as all the TV streams are in a Playlist and allow me to directly switch to a Live TV Stream.

3/ Far less important, but is there a way to remove the media display section on the remote as it is unable to show duration etc. for a network stream and I'm trying to get to just what is needed so anyone in the house can use it.

At this point I would like to point out that Roomie along with Plex Home theater, Roku, J River Media Center, Denon 4806CI Receivers and Next PVR/HD Homerun/VLC has completely changed the entertainment experience in the household. With just an iPad I have full control of the entire setup, including powering on and off, selecting content and controlling zones around the house. Totally awesome. Even my 5 year old can easily control and use the system!

2014

When I fire up pandora or Internet radio on roomie, I have stuttering. But when I close roomie the stuttering goes away. If I touch the remote arrows to pick pandora or Internet radio it jumps all around. It gets better, if I go into the menu of pandora when it's a playing a song it quits...it's all most like the song title and roomie do not get along. Any suggestions?

That was a known issue (aka bug) in the 2011 model year from Onkyo/Integra that was not fixed until the 2012 models. If you select "Older Models" instead of the default when adding the receiver as a device, Roomie will remove some of its queries for those models which works around the problem.

Thanks! Actually that is what I tried and it works so far.

2014

Hi,

I've been trying to set up Roomie with Plex on my Mac Mini. Roomie detects it fine and I can control it OK but I can't figure out how to get the Media Guide to appear. I've attached a screenshot of what I see. I do get an error message about authentication, but like many other users, I don't have any credentials to enter.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Siobhan.

XBMC and Plex have grown into two very different products. The existence of the Media Guide for XBMC does not therefore mean there is a Media Guide for Plex. We do support various forms of Plex feedback, but a full Media Guide is a major feature you can be sure we'd announce loudly if we added Plex. It sounds like starting a Feature Request thread for a Plex Media Guide would be what you would want.

Thank you, that was driving me nuts!

I'll get over to the feature request thread and add my 2 cents!

Thanks again,

Siobhan.

2014

I have a AT-PRO3HD44M and was wondering if this can be IP controlled since the AT-H2H-44M can be manually configured.

Second, will Roomie provide a matrix type experience by allowing different sources and end points/room to connect?

The protocol hasn't changed so it should work fine.

Certainly when you attach the appropriate .INPUT OUTPUT SET commands to your activities, using a matrix with Roomie is extremely common and works well.

Very cool!! I have a certain Home Automation system I invested in 9 years ago that was somewhat friendly to DIY and now I have to act as a developer to get into the config software which now requires authentication.

I think this will allow me to divest from that equipment.

Thanks!!!!!

2014

Question: Roomie Agent or OS X 2.1 is now live in automatic update for existing customers and in the store for new customers:

This release includes the following major new features:


  • SmartThings Triggers: Roomie Agent will now accept commands from a SmartThings Hub. See the Ro...

    Staff response: Good catch. We have fixed that in a future release.

    Roomie Agent 2.1.1 is now available via auto-update and for new purchases. The following improvements are included in this release.


    • Dark Mode: Added appropriate icon behavior for Yosemite's Dark Mode.

    • Diagnostics: An option to activate collection of diagnostics has been added to Preferences along with sending the diagnostics to Roomie Support.

    • Memory: Under certain conditions, Roomie Agent was using more memory than it should over time. This has been resolved.

    2014

First of all: Roomie looks promising, and is probably what I have been looking for now for a while. Great work!

My living room setup consists of:

Panasonic TX-P55ST50Y (TV)
Primare I30 & Primare DAC30 (Stereo amplifier and DAC)
Asrock ION330 (XBMC HTPC)
Apple TV
Canal digital (cable tv PVR decoder)

I think the HTPC and Apple TV will be compatible with Roomie in terms of powering on/off and controlling. The TV can be controlled once I get it on (but doesn't seem to support Wake on Lan). The Primare devices are not on LAN and the cable PVR is probably not supported (?).

I suppose I will need some IR device in order to communicate with my Primare devices, the cable PVR and turning on/off my TV. What kind of device am I looking for? I suppose on of these will work:

Will this adapter cover all my needs?

My Primare devices are not on the list of supported IR devices. Will it be a problem to get them working?

Unlisted infrared devices can generally be learned using the IR learning feature:
Roomie Remote Support
Yes a Roomie Blaster adapter would the right choice for that list.
Thank you.

Thanks. Order is placed. Looking forward to trying it out!

2014

Hi,

After upgrading to 3.0 I find the layout that I carefully customized is changed in a few key areas.

The main one is the Activities list which sits on the left hand side. I like the new rectangle buttons, however cannot get them to format in a single column. It always wants to display at least 2 columns.

Is there a way to display either a single column of the smaller squares or the rectangles?

The basic strategy is size to fit. It will try to fit as many Activities as possible onto one page so you don't have to scroll. It will enlarge them up to a maximum, and shrink to a minimum.

Going to one column at full width is larger than the current maximum, but we changed that in 3.0.1 which looks very nice for simple rooms with just a few Activities all full width.

Could we have the option of single or double columns, regardless of the number of activities?
Regards

I agree that this is a personal design preference that should be configurable.

2014

A very interesting message was posted by reader Nick as a response to our IP control report yesterday:

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The poster states that he got IP Power On control working for a Samsung EU55ES8000 (the European variation of the top of the line ES8000 series). The way he did this is explained in his post above. Unfortunately, it does not apply to the entire Smart TV range based on our testing. We're not sure which models it does apply to. We have confirmed it does not work on a UN32ES6500 which is on a much lower end of the Smart TV range.

We'd like to ask any users with 2012 Samsung Smart TV models to check for the settings mentioned in the post, specifically 'Set Remote Access'->'Remote Scheduler'->On and then verify that Roomie can indeed power on your model. If you could post any positive OR negative results here with your exact model number, we'd appreciate it.

2012 Smart TV models have ES in their model number.


On our test UN32ES6500, we do not have such an option. Instead, there is a "Remote Home Care" option which when enabled does give the same warning mentioned but the TV cannot in fact then be turned on via IP. We're hoping to crowdsource this information as Samsung itself does not seem to be aware of this way of using their products.

Tried my US UN60D7000 and no joy. The tools menu doesnt bring up anything when in the SmartHub and I couldn't find any reference to the remote access manager.

The D series is 2011. This feature if it exists would definitely only apply to select 2012 models.

Hi All

Just joined after setting up Roomie for the first time and I've got to say what a fantastic App. My Setup is as follows:

Samsung UE46ES8000 TV

Pioneer VSX-921 Reciever

Popcorn Hour A-400 Media Box

Pioneer BDP 140 Blu Ray (Roomie found device but I've not tested yet)

Xbox 360 and Wii

I can confirm the instructions mentioned on the post above re wake up via IP worked a treat for me on the samsung UE46ES8000 with the latest firmware.

The instructions were:

Using the remote…

[SMART HUB Button] -> [TOOLS Button] -> ‘Settings’ -> ‘Account Manager’ -> ‘Set Remote Access’ -> ‘Remote Scheduler’ -> ‘On’….

A message will be displayed…

“….With remote access on, your TV will go on standby even when turned off…..”

Click ‘OK’

I just had to do one thing and that was to setup a samsung account otherwise the option 'Account Manager' is greyed out.

Many thanks for the post above as this does mean I can now get rid of those other remotes!


So far we have a UE46ES8000 and an EU55ES8000 that seem to have the Remote Scheduler feature. The UE seems like it may be a UK model? The EU represents EU models. USA models are generally UN.

The safest working assumption right now is that the Remote Scheduler may be limited to the ES8000 series.

Just want to clarify that the 'Power On' command works within Roomie but the special command 'Wake on Lan' does not work.

I done some test right now with your instructions :

UE-40ES8080 Power On is OK

UE-40ES6780 Power ON is NOT possible

UE-40D8080 Power ON is NOT possible

UE-40D6710 Power ON is NOT possible

In the 3 models were it doesn't work in "Account Manager" you don't find "Set Remote Access" then you can't activate it.

(In Switzerland we have Samsung with "UE" too !)

While I have four Samsung TV's to configure, I have tested the Samsung UN55ES6500F - 55" LED TV 3D and it Does Not Support the Remote Access / Remote Scheduler Function (only lists the Remote Home Care option in the Admin Function).

The Samsung 3D BluRay Player (BD-E5900) also has the same Power On IP Control Option.

I have try and on UE-40ES6980 Power ON is NOT possible too.

Remote Scheduler not an option in Account Manager submenu for UN75ES9000 either.

2013

Has anybody managed to get lightwaverf to work since they added support i am struggling any help appreciated

I have. Struggled at first and couldn't get the default remote to work at all.

I added the wifi link manually on port 9760, deleted the buttons from the remote and added new buttons. There are two parameters for the command - the first is the room number and the second the device number. For my living room lights it was 1 and 1.

Also the first time you use your iPhone etc a message will show link the wifi link to register the device - just press a button to register and all should be good.

Hi



Did you put both numbers in parameter 1 and did you have to put a space between them quite new to all this so still learning.

Have got it showing up on the display of the wifi link but now switching the lights on



thanks

Parameter One was 1 and Parameter Two was 1. Didn't need anything else. I actually have two lights in the living room so the second was was Parameter One 1 (for the room) and Parameter Two 2 (for the device in that room).

Hope that makes sense.

Yes understand but not working with me have submitted a support ticket see what they say does show the command on the wififlink box so will have to keep trying

Have you used the lightwaverf app to setup the rooms and devices?

Got it working but to swtich on i have have to use mood 5 have tried the light on but does not work so getting there slowly, yes i have used the lightwave app to setup the rooms

I have got it working tonight with all my lightwave light switches but the relay on the bathroom lights does not with roomie so far and my main concern is the on/off plugs I cannot seem to get to work?



there is no option for on or off and the light on does not communicate with the plugs?

Hi ks055



I had the same problem i used the Mood5 to switch on my plugs and it seems to work i have emailed support about this

Steveing thanks for the heads up, I will give that a try this week and let you know.

2013

I have an Element TV with an Xfinity X1 cable box controlled via wi-fi and a Flex (with latest firmware). It worked fine for a few months.

I haven't used Roomie in this room for a while. Just today I switched the TV on with my iPad and found something very weird. Every time I selected a digit on the remote in Roomie, I got the digit repeated 6 or 7 times. I also couldn't change channels using the guide. With all the multiple digits, I can't change channels at all. I tested the TV and determined those iR commands are duplicated too multiple times. Something is very screwy.

I rebooted the Flex, TV and cable box (power cycled). No change. I tried both my iPad 4 and iPhone 5 with the same results. I tried my other three rooms with iTachs (Ethernet) and experienced no problems.

I did upgrade to iOS 7 on both devices yesterday, but unless there is something Flex specific, I doubt it is iOS 7. All other rooms and functions work just fine.

Any idea what is going on with this room and/or Flex??

thanks,

Charlie

Fellow Roomites ... I/we can stand down!

I discussed the problem with Global Cache support. It turns out the 08 firmware had a bug that sent multiple commands. They were unclear if all 08 downloads had the bug, or just some of the 08 downloads.

Anyway, 09 is out and that cured my problem and eliminated the duplication duplication duplication bug.

I can also say with certainty, Roomie is working well on both my iPad 4 and iPhone 5 running iOS 7.

Charlie

2013

I'm curious as to why you recommended the Sony BDP-S5100 over something that would provide time scrubbing feedback. Is there something about this unit (loading time, picture quality) that makes it better?

Thanks!

-g-

Every other attribute of the 5100 is pretty much ideal. From the full IP control with power to quiet operation to the load times, it's a great box.

That said, you're absolutely right that it lacks play position feedback and play position setting. Once you've used those, it's hard to go back.

Given that this year's Panasonic models were so not ready for prime time that they don't even have IP control, we would normally have selected them. In fact, arguably you may want to go back a year and get the 220 from last year. It was a great box. Until they fix their models though, we believe the Sony 5100 is best affordable player in this year's models.

The real best of course is the Oppo 103. Full interactive feedback via serial, basically everything you could want – the only thing really lacking in Oppo's players is that their IP control is still very poor, you will want to control that via serial. We put this into our top recommended system.

If price is no object, Kaleidescape Cinema One blows all of those things out of the water.

2013

Hello. Wondering why the iTunes guide isn't shown when an iTunes activity is set as a pop-up.

Scenario: While watching TV in bedroom, I decide to mute the TV (but leave it playing), then peruse iTunes to play something on my Mac (via the Mac's speakers). That's why I have a "Play iTunes" activity as a pop-up, because I don't want that activity to turn off the rest of the system.

But the iTunes guide isn't displayed unless I remove the pop-up designation. Can this be changed in the future?

(It would be useful to be able to view any guide, without actually switching to that activity until ready. Maybe I'm listening to iTunes on the Mac, and I want to view the DirecTV guide to see what's on. Then, after identifying something I want to watch, I could tap that channel in the guide to officially begin the activity.)

Please advise. Thanks!

The simple answer is that Popup Activities don't have enough room to show a guide as they're contained within one panel. Only normal Activities can takeover the Guide panel.

It sounds like perhaps you could achieve the same goal and get the iTunes Media Guide as well by simply setting the Play iTunes activity Automatic Commands to Off and Popup Activity to Off. Then, opening the Play iTunes activity wont change any other aspect of your system.

2013

This is a question to tax the expertise of the remote(s) folks: many devices like AVRs and BDPs 9and even my CD jukebox) have these remove in/out 3.5mm [mono] minijacks. These are the same plugs that usually come out of RF/IP-to-IR receivers (although some are 2.5mm microjacks).

However, the IR transmission through the air is a binary digital signal modulate on a carrier frequency, normally in the 30-50kHz range. The receivers output this modulated signal through their jacks so that the attached IR emitters only need to be LEDs (and are not required to perform the modulation, because then they would need to know which freq to use).

I believe the input jacks on the A/V equipment wants the unmodulated binary signal, right? So feeding them a stream of bits that's changing at up to 50kHz (yes, I know some go up to 500kHz) would confuse it...unless it performs some kind of low-pass filtering so that it can recover the original binary stream.

Some AVRs promote the fact that their IR output ports will retransmit codes for other devices, implying that any command it receives via IR (or the IR input port) that is NOT for it, will be retransmitted. (Unfortunately, I don't think this is true for commands via IP, so my SC-67 controlled that way won't send signals up to my non-IP Sony CD jukebox.)

So the question is: will these devices accept modulated signals into their IR ports? Or is it a case-by-case scenario that Yamaha will but Sony will not, or Pioneer receivers made after 2008 will and those before will not? I may end up trying this with the IP2IR I ordered, but I wonder if there are any precautions I should watch out for (like Port 3's "blaster" mode).

There is no one true answer to your question of course. It depends on the devices. As a general rule, the iTach uses by far the most common type of 3.5mm IR connection and is compatible with a vast array of devices and receivers via simple 2 foot 3.5 mono to mono cables like this:

Xantech 3.5mm Mono Cable, 2 Feet

That same connection is generally fully compatible with things like the SlingBox and a few other things that use the non-standard 2.5mm connector instead and this adapter can be used for that kind of thing:

2.5mm Mono Plug to 3.5mm Mono Jack Adapter for SlingBox by Infrared Resources

The major exception is Xantech distribution devices such as the one listed here:

astore.amazon.com/cyphersoft-20? ... TF8&node=9

For that, you need to convert the signal with this special cable:

store.roomieremote.com/gc-cgx/

2013

I read an old topic about controlling EyeTV and it was mainly using remote buddy which I don't want to use and I have Roomie Agent. I've also ordered one of the flex units for IR control arriving soon I hope.

Does anyone else use EyeTV and what control methods do you use?

I can map up/down/right/left, enter, and escape easy enough using roomie agent .key down commands but there's other eyetv navigation commands I'd like to be able to use but they often require multi-button presses (like CMD+R) which I can't do with roomie agent.

I have a mac mini so IR commands could also be used - is anyone using an apple remote preset to control EyeTV?

In addition, is there a way to make the roomie guide work with EyeTV such that when I click on a channel on the roomie guide it takes me there on EyeTV? This would probably be a bit more difficult bit it'd be pretty neat. I can see issues with it though if I'm using Plex and I'm navigating the guide and it launches eyetv but doesn't close plex.

so I just ended up using the Apple TV remote preset to control eye tv. works just fine.

2013

I have two DirecTV DVRs used in two Zones, so I'll have four instances of the same remote design. I edit the first one, moving the buttons around so that they are efficient and familiar, and I save it in the first Activity (Project DVR3). It controls the DVR whose MAC address ends in D9. Let's call this remote design "DVR REMOTE".

This same design I want to use in three other instances; one where it controls the same device but from another room (Zone); and two others that control the other DVR in two places.

Logically, when I edit the other Activity in one room for the other DVR, I could simply make Opens Remote=(the correct DVR according to MAC adds) and Remote Design=DVR REMOTE. This means the layout is the same, but it controls DVR4. Is this how things are supposed to work?

But let's say it's not. Let's say I have to avail myself of the Duplicate Design button. This gives me DVR REMOTE 1. I rename this DVR4 REMOTE. This now has the layout I want, and when I save in this second Activity, the Opens Remote=(DVR4) and the Remote Design=DVR4 REMOTE. This Activity should open the familiar remote design and control the second DVR. Is this the way things are supposed to work? If so, do I need to duplicate two more times for the other room? Or can I use DVR REMOTE and DVR4 REMOTE to control the respective devices (which have been added to the second room)?

2013

Hi can anyone offer some advice. I have been using Roomie remote successfully for a few years now, however having just moved house roomie will no longer find the GC100 worse still now all the ir emitters are constantly on!!

I have tried the fracture reset to no avail and in need of help to get things working!!

We recommend the iTach adapters for all purposes.

We have seen the behavior you describe (rarely) in the past and generally it just resolves itself with enough resetting or time in our experience. You'd need to contact Global Caché support for real support with that issue.

Just to underscore the point, we recommend the iTach adapters for all purposes even if you already have one of the old GC-100 boxes. They are now multiple architectural generations behind with countless improvements introduced in the iTach and then iTach Flex lines. This issue and many others lead us to strongly encourage upgrading.

2013

The 573 is a recent model, so it uses the RX-A set. The naming is a bit confusing, but usually nobody runs into it as an issue because the auto-discovery chooses the correct command set for you.

Thanks for the quick response. I've tried this on zone 1 and zone 2 but nothing works at all. I have the Yamaha app on the ipad and this all works so I'm confident the amp is set up ok.

Are you saying the roomie should normally see the Yamaha advertised? I do get my samsung TV and virgin TiVo advertised and these work great! Its a UK model if this makes a difference.

Managed to sort it. I used the RX-A zone 1 set as you advised but bused port 50000 and not port 80



thanks

2013

Do the 2013 Panasonic TV's support Wake on LAN power on? This article: makes it sound like they do, yet my ST60 doesn't seem to respond to +WAKE ON LAN. Is this a setup issue in roomie or does the ST60 not support wake on lan?

Good question. We don't have any tests yet on production 2013 Panasonic TV models which is why we do not yet list them as compatible. Whatever manufacturers represent at an expo may or may not translate to real products. Have you looked for the Wake on LAN option on the TV? It has never been as simple as just configuring Roomie. Various aspects must also be configured on the TV. Also, Ethernet has traditionally been a requirement for the 2012 models that support full IP control. Are you using Ethernet or Wi-Fi? Also, is this a US model? International models in 2012 never had WoL.

US model, ethernet, can't find a Wake on LAN reference in the manual/settings menu. Not looking good..

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Note that, if WoL were to work, you wouldn't need a Power Toggle there anyway.

The ST50 models never worked for Power via IP so hoping that the ST60 models would work this year was a long shot (though the Panasonic people did say that). We'd assume that the VT60 and ZT60 would still have WoL.

I have just received a vt60 will get test in a bit band report back

Sorry about the last, iPhone spell check.

I have a new vt60 and will test the wake on LAN and report back soon

Did WOL work for you?

Sorry for the delay. Working on playing with the video calibration settings. Tried wake on lan and worked great. The +wake command work good.

So VT and ZT models are both plasma TVs... do any of the LED-based Panasonic TVs have WOL support?

I have 2 LED TVs, one ETW60 and other WTW60 and I can't wake them on LAN

If anyone can, Id be interested to know how

It seems clear now that Panasonic maintained exactly the same functionality for Wake on LAN for this year's models as their 2012 models. The two top of the line models have it (VT60/ZT60, a la the VT50/GT50), the others require infrared.

According to the manual for 2012 WT50 (LED), it supports Wake On LAN

manualowl.com/m/Panasonic/TC ... ual/270646

I can't seem to find a manual on the new WT60. I've got a WT50 on order, supposed to be delivered next week. Will test it out and report back.

The WT50 manual is very convincing. If someone has that model, we'd definitely recommend giving Wake on LAN a try as there's no mistaking Panasonic's document says it should work. The WT60 has the same reference.

It'll be here early next week so I'll try it out and post my results.

The Panasonic WT50 does, indeed, respond to Wake On LAM commands. Now I have to figure out how to configure Roomie to ...

2013

I want to control two lamps and two overhead lights with separate switches with Roomie. Do I really shave to buy the $$$ ISY-99i ? I get the Insteon components and their cost but having to add another $300 for the ISY-99i is cost prohibitive. Has anyone developed a simpler way to accomplish this? Obviously I'm a newbie to light automation but am comfortable with any wiring tasks that are necessary. Thanks in advance.

Every lighting solution has a controller that costs something. At the low end, even the Philips Hue requires a relatively expensive controller. The good news is that the controller controls many devices and allows lots of expansion with all of these systems.

At some point there will be good options in the direct point to point control devices such as myube.co/, but that's still a ways off at the moment.

The least expensive solution is the Smartlabs #2242 Hub at about $130. Smartlabs is the source of all Insteon...... The hub will allow you to set up your lights, as well as control them with an iOS app on the LAN or WAN. The ISY-991 and it's variants are more robust and essentially take the place of a Smartlabs' software offering "HouseLinc". I am not sure if the ISY offers more features than the 2242 when used with Roomie. I use the 2242.

As an important note, the Insteon Hub is not currently integrated with Roomie. (Not to say you couldn't add it as a custom device of course.) Meanwhile, the ISY99 Insteon products are extensively integrated in Roomie with support almost equal to our Lutron Radio RA 2 support including all of the new Room Automation, room synchronization, sliders for brightness, etc.

m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail ... 8639328882



if I'm not mistaken Roomie supports the smartlinc included with that kit... The kit also inclueds a lamplinc and a phase bridge...

Roomie, can you expand a little more on the difference between RadioRA 2 and the ISY994i integration? I'm looking at doing 4 Insteon dimmers in my HT. Are there any drawback to Insteon vs RadioRA 2?

The differences between those two are very minor. Radio RA 2 clearly identifies shades to us. So with that system, we automatically generate shade controls using the proper shade icons, etc. for opening and closing drapes/shades whenever we generate a new Virtual Remote for automation. The ISY system does not tell us about those, so that's the primary difference. There are other smaller differences, but in terms of user noticeable features, that's it.
Thank you.

Thanks for the quick response! Looks like ill go with insteon then.

Actually, I was not quite correct. The least expensive solution for Insteon is to use a 2412N SmartLinc (which is supported) for $99, plus the free Smartlabs iOS app and the 2477D dimmer switches. I actually have the Roomie events turn off my room lights as part of the event turn on process. Don't get m...

2013

Would you guys consider updating the Plex device to include a JSON option (identical to XBMC)? The new Plex Home Theater release doesn't support the current Plex configuration, but DOES work okay with the XBMC JSON option (default port is TCP 3005 in PHT).

We'll take a quick look at this soon. The new XBMC Frodo support should hopefully all be immediately adaptable to it. We will need to activate all the new 1.8 XBMC feedback to make sure it works with Plex there assuming Plex is using all of XBMC.

Hey odog -

The good news is that you can use the XBMC media player device (JSON support) on port 3005 for controlling Plex Home Theater. You'll want to make a custom control because there are a billion XBMC options that don't work, but they weren't available on the old Plex remote design anyway.

Tip: Make sure you include the "Home" button in your remote design. The navigation buttons all work, but "Back" won't take you out of the Plex search dialog. Home seems to do that just fine.

Just transitioned from Plex to Plex Home Theatre PVR as well. Glad to hear support is coming!

I see that we now have a JSON option on the plex device - awesome. However, the SHUTDOWN command doesn't seem to be supported. Is that a Roomie oversight or a plex one?

Looks like PHT supports it. Here's the URL:

192.168.0.0:3005/jsonrpc?request ... uit%22%7d/

The above works if you use a URL command in Roomie.

I have installed the latest version of plex plus updated to roomie 1.8.3. I've add a new device newts selected the new Json remote under plex. I try one of the buttons on the test remote and it does work, even though the command line shows blue.

Do I need to activate/turn on something else for Json to work?

cheers

Plex Home Theater does not seem to have gone live yet at the Plex site. You need to be a paying Plex customer in order to see it as a public download during the pre-release period. That means you have the old Plex controlled by the non-JSON command set.

Thank you.

Ah cool. Yeah I've got a PlexPass... was just holding out for a stable release from Plex. Will give PHT a try, thanks.

Do I need to config anything in Plex or Roomie to use port 3005? Or will it connect automatically to that port?

Installed Plex home theatre (was waiting for aeon skin) and roomie can find xmbc json, but not plex json. I've created a new device using manual ip through port 3005, which works for the main buttons (up, down, left, right, fast forward...). Buttons such as fullscreen and subtitles don't work. Is this because I've added the device manually? Also tried to use auto detected xmbc json, but that doesn't work at all.

2013

Question: I downloaded the app yesterday with a view to automate all my av kit.

I have a Panasonic 50GT50 plasma, a Panasonic BDT120 bluray player, a Virgin Tivo (I'm in the UK), a Dune Smart D1 media player and a soon to be replaced Denon 1909 av receiver.

When configuring Roomie for the first time the only device that it auto discovered was the Tivo box. I have managed to manually configure the TV, Bluray and Media player.

Kind of disappointed that they weren't seen on my network though. ...

Staff response: TiVo uses something called Bonjour to publish its presence on your network. The Panasonic products use a different system called UPnP that is sometimes disabled by routers. This FAQ covers that topic:

Roomie Remote Support

There is no downside to using Manual IP if you can't fix your router with one exception: Sonos. There is some special information we get during discovery that is necessary for proper Sonos control. As long as your IP devices have fixed IPs, manual IP addition is the same as automatic:

Roomie Remote Support

Thank you.

2013

I will be receiving a TiVo Mini this week & I was wondering if Roomie will be able to support it? If so will the experimental TiVo set I'm currently using with my Premieres aply to the Mini as well? I am willing to help support development of this device if not.

Thank you

I just set up my TiVo Mini & I can control it via Roomie. It auto discovers it as a TiVo Media Player Premiere TiVo Mini. I can use all of the control functions such as live, channel change, etc. But I am using the expiremental TiVo software & it is not working properly. The scrubbing buffer doesn't work. And more important the live channel feedback doesn't work. It gives me feedback for the turner on my XL4 & won't let me change channels via the guide. I am willing to help try to figure this ouI, just let me know what you want me to do.

Thank you,

Jan

Curious if it is working now - just ordered a Mini

It is IP controllable with some limitations. There is no live feedback. The live feedback you get is actually from the host TiVo, so it's useless. You also can not change the channel via the Roomie guide. The work around is to change the channel from the TiVo guide or the numeric keypad. Other than that everything else works. You will like the Mini, I do.

Has Roomie responded to you about fixing it, as their earlier post notes?

There's nothing to be done here until TiVo provides working units. The issues users have mentioned with Mini units are on the TiVo side.

Thank you.

Curious if there has been any updates regarding support for the Mini's? Have thing been clarified? I own one - I don't see it as an auto- discoverable device - and was planning to get a couple more...

We have a TiVo Mini test unit now. We have just deployed an updated command set that removes aspects of control that are inhibited by TiVo Mini bugs.

In summary, the TiVo Mini does not support many aspects of TiVo's IP control such as changing channels. However, it does support manually entering digits and thereby effecting a channel change. So we have removed the pieces of the command set that enable integral channel changes and deployed a new command set labelled specifically for the TiVo Mini. While channel changing will be slower on the Mini, it will work which is the important part.

For those also using the advanced TiVo feedback available from Support, the TiVo Mini does not properly register that. These are both bugs on the TiVo side that would affect any app including TiVo's. For now just use the new command set for the Mini instead.

To get the TiVo Mini set immediately, just go to Settings in Roomie and tap Last Update.

2013

Question: I recently setup two TVs with Roomie and iTach Flexes. Almost everything is great, but I am having one issue. I have the retransmit count set to 1 for both my TVs (Vizio) and my AppleTVs, but every time I tap an onscreen volume or arrow button for one of them I they get ~6 presses. That makes navigating on the AppleTV very difficult, and causes the volume on my TV to jump around a lot more than I want.

I am relatively certain this is an issue in Roomie and not the Flex, since when I use the...

Staff response: You can also force single transmits by editing the Remote Design and setting the command itself for the cursor buttons to Repeat -> None instead of Repeat -> While Touched. Basically the hardware just isn't stopping its transmissions quickly enough. But setting the button itself in the Remote Design not to repeat will make sure that only one transmit occurs.

We have only seen this with the Flex and we believe it may be fixed in the firmware update they are due to release imminently.

We would suggest also expressing your interest in this via support@globalcache.com.

Thank you.

Firmware 06 for the Flex was released lastnight. We are working to verify fixes. At this time there are reports of some issues. That may be premature as other reports indicate some serial issues were verified as fixed. We would advise holding off on updating for the moment until we report back.

Thank you.

We have tested Firmware 7 and we believe all of the infrared issues with prior firmware releases have been resolved in that. We recommend upgrading to this release. Firmware upgrades for iTach units are performed via Global Caché's iHelp utility:

globalcache.com/files/software/iHelp.exe

Thank you.

2013

Hello Roomie,

I've been following you guys for quite sometime. I have finally moved into my new house and i'm ready to dive into this head first.

I wanted to ask some questions so I can get pointed in the right direction.

Currently, I am using the Monster AVL 300 as a remote. It supports Z-Wave and many other features. I do not use the Z-Wave at this time.

I've read that Roomie supports LUTRON and INSTEON for lighting, etc.

My requirements:

I would like to have full home automation with events, such as "Watch movie" and this event will trigger all my devices and dim lights, etc.

Controlling the devices should not be an issue. I will need to buy the WIFI IR blaster.

I don't know what I will need to buy to get the lighting to work. Getting the switches from one of those companies is an oblivious first. So here are my questions:

What other hardware will Roomie need to make the lights work?

What about feedback to know what devices are on? Or what dim rating they are currently at?

Will Roomie or the device I use to connect Roomie to the lights allow me to control them when I am away from the home?

Does Roomie provide alerts? such as smoke alarm, motion? Or will I need to use another app for that?

What other devices can I control? Water? (Sprinklers) Anything else?

I am looking forward to this install. Please let me know anything that could help. Any hardware I might need to buy. Any possible how-to's or a walk-through.

Like I said, I am more concerned with the lighting and controlling of non-IR related devices. I have much experience with IR blasters and setting up my current AVL300

Thanks in advance!

-Shane

For zwave one easy solution that can be integrated with roomie is the Vera lite. Probably the cheapest and easiest to use. very advanced users might be held back, but its fan great place to start. 179 on amazon. Lighting, thermostat, door locks are all supported. There's more, but it can get complicated.

If you want to integrate security, sprinklers, etc (this is advanced) you're talking about a custom solution, and costs will run in the thousands (See control4, homeseer, crestron, etc). Many (cheap/value) people have 2 systems, one for security (ADT) and one for automation, although I see some cable companies are starting to offer more integrated packages. May or may not be ready for prime time...

We do plan to add Vera feedback and it's not a bad choice. However, right now your best bet might be the Insteon ISY 994i. That will provide feedback and a flexible DIY lighting environment which sounds like the kind of thing you're looking for.

Control away from home requires a VPN. It's not that hard to setup. Just search the forums here for VPN.

Sprinklers and alarms and such are best controlled by an always-on automation controller like an ISY or many other systems like that.

Thank you.

I have an Insteon 2412N Controller and...

2013

I purchased an iTach Ethernet to Serial Adapter (IP2SL-P) from your store to use with an Oppo BDP-103. I hooked it up using a Tripp-Lite Null Modem Cable (P454-006) tonight but the 103 is not responding to any command sent from the Roomie Remote.

The iTach appears to be working correctly: the light by the serial connection on the back flashes whenever I send a command from the Roomie Remote, but the Oppo does nothing (I tested with the Oppo powered on). The iTach is configured with a reserved IP address.

I looked at the Oppo manual but didn't see anything to indicate that I need to change a setting on the Oppo in order to enable serial control (it's possible I could have missed something, though). I was wondering if the serial commands being sent from the Roomie Remote are correct for the 103 since it is a relatively new model. Has serial control of a 103 been tested with an iTach IP2SL-P and Roomie Remote?

I have successfully tested the Oppo with Roomie Remote using IP control (using the Roomie Remote IP template), but I have had no success with serial (using the serial template).

I'd appreciate any assistance that you can give me in getting the iTach to work with the 103. Thank you.

We have a FAQ to help you with that:

Diagnostics

Since you didn't mention it, it sounds like you didn't set the baud rate (per the FAQ). Oppo is 9600bps.

Thanks for the reply! I did not have the baud rate set at 9600; however I just updated it to 9600, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference (I tried cycling the power on the iTach too after I made the baud rate change).

I did a Google search for Oppo 103 serial control and found this document from Oppo. All of the serial setting match the settings in the Oppo document, though I did notice that it says "do NOT use a 'Null-Modem' cable for a PC connection", but wasn't sure if that applied when using the iTach.

The only other thing I noticed is that the light above the serial connection flashes once about every four seconds (unless it's receiving a command). I suppose that is normal, but thought I'd mention it.

Do I need a "straight-through" serial cable instead of the "null-modem" cable, or is the "straight-through" cable only for a PC connection? If the null-modem cable is correct, do you have any other suggestions? Thanks!

Null modem cable will not work with Oppo. That's why we list it as a straight cable device:

Totally missed that. Thanks, I'll order a straight-through cable and try that. I imagine it will work, but I'll update the thread once I test it.

I really appreciate the excellent support that you provide!

I'm using an IP2SL with an Oppo 93 without any issues. Need a standard strai...

2013

I'd like to use Roomie as my defacto Philips Hue controller. But I can't seem to figure out how to either group lights or to control a scene that I've set up / saved using the standard Hue controller app.

Any suggestions?

Thank you

-d

Have you already updated your manifest so it shows all the bulbs connected to your bridge? If not, do that 1st. Then you should be able to just add buttons within the hue remote design. Just follow the same format as the ones that are defaulted after the manifest is updated.

Yes, I have 12 bulbs and all 12 show up. And I can control them all individually. But any scenes that I've created using the Philips app do not show up...

Yea you will need to open the remote via "edit" within the activity, and add a button for each scene you want to control. You're going to pretty much create the scene by adding commands within each button, for each scene, that you add/want to create. Its probably going to be pretty time consuming. I have 12 bulbs myself, and ive only done 2 so far.

You can also create a button to turn on/off the color loop lighting effect. I used the "rocker" button for that.

Got it.. I'll try that out. Thank you

I don't understand the Color Loop concept.. kind of a novice at this.

The color loop slowly cycles thru all the main colors. Its pretty cool. They slowly fade from one color to the next until you stop it.

You can also create all different kinds of "recipes" on www.ifttt.com but they wont be able to be programmed into Roomie. There are recipes that will for example: Turn all of your lights to blue if it starts raining. You can create recipes that'll change the color of your lights to whichever color your specify if you get tagged on FB, or if you get an email, etc. You can also set your lights to dim/brighten to a certain level at a specific time every day, or change to a certain color at a certain time everyday, and things like that. Recipes are very easy to create all you have to do is register on ifttt, and select which channels you want to use as triggers, then start creating.

2013

I would like to be sure of two things before I pull the trigger:

1) Will I be able to watch a DVD in one room with the tv going and at the same time streaming iTunes or spotify or pandora in stereo on the patio in zone 2?

2) Will roomie be able to be control what is going on the patio and skip itunes songs, skip pandora songs and show what is playing in zone 2?

That's my big use case so if it can not do it suggestions for an av receiver that can would be welcome. I was thinking of going big and "future proofing" and getting the denon 3113 but the more I ready the more I realize I should get something that works for me now and then in 5 years perhaps get something new. AV receivers used to be pretty steady in their features (I still have by Yamaha RXV-995 which has 5.1 sound from nearly 20 years ago which works fine) but now it seems things are changing big time every year.

Thx, Lloyd

So crucially I would like a device that will be able to display pandora and skip songs and do the same on itunes in zone 2. Any device that Roomie will allow me to do that with is great.

Now changing my mind and thinking about getting the Onkyo NR-717. Same question:

2) Will roomie be able to be control what is going on the patio and skip itunes songs, skip pandora songs and show what is playing in zone 2? adn taht means show album art in the app, do the thumbs up thumbs down in pandora etc

Both of those models are good IP control choices. Feature variations are in the IP Compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

All of the modern models from the larger receiver manufacturers are supported on all zones per above.

Thank you.

Thanks roomie for the prompt response. I am vacillating. Does the Onkyo support multiple connections? I would guess not based on it not being mentioned in the ip compatibility guide but then again I think roomie supports multiple connections to the yamaha's and that is not mentioned in the guide.
Thx again, Lloyd

Onkyo does not support multiple connections. We just added the new YNC set for Yamaha 2010+ receivers to support that for them, and we also have that for Denon 2011+ models per the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

The other way to achieve multiple connection support is via the IP2SL/WF2SL adapters if your model has serial.

Thank you.

Thanks much. At least now I have only two brands to choose from.

So I think it will be the Denon AVR-1913 for me. Can anyone tell me if I will be able to see the pandora graphics and video stream and do the thumbs up and down, skip tracks etc in roomie if i am playing Pandora on zone 2?

Thanks much in advance.

2013

Note that i will be using the TiVo remote as the basis for my examples.

Version 1.8 now allows the insertion of end of row markers in the final "add additional buttons" block at the bottom of custom remotes. The "top bar" also allows buttons to be added. It would be great if one could add end of row markers here as well. The purpose of this would be to allow design customizations at the top of the remote as well as the bottom.

A broader (and more preferable) solution would be to allow the blocks themselves (ie, "top bar" block, "directional pad" block, etc) to be reordered. This would allow users to set their own priority (in terms of screen location) for each block. Also, it would be nice to have multiple "add additional buttons" blocks. These two features together would allow users to reorder the blocks and intersperse useful custom buttons in between the blocks, resulting in very robust customization possibilities.

I agree with this 100%. Reordering would be fantastic

+1

With such a great app, this seems like something that should have been there from day one. +1 please.

+1

I've been wanting the end of row at the top as well.

I just started setting up my system and was on here looking for info on the design flexibility. This would be a great feature to build in.

Allow users to customize the order of the blocks, button sizes, and add "end rows".

Additional layout flexibility would be very welcome. Simply including the ability to drag the blocks around to reorder them would be great.

2013

It seems like there is a default button on the remote that was established when I created the activity watch Blu-Ray and a corresponding button " Netflix". however when I use the netflix button, nothing happens. In order to get to Netflix, it is a few key strokes thru a screen or two. Is there a way to create a short-cut (macro) that would work if I code the button "netflix"? how would I do that. Thanks.

Which control method are you using?

I am using iptoir

The 93/95 models don't have that command. The 103/105 models respond to that. You could try to create an IR macro to navigate to it.

Do you have a link for some tips on setting up an IR macro?

That's in the Remote Design editor. Just tap 'Remote Design' when editing an Activity.

2013

I've been using a Harmony One Remote along with a Logitech 915-000139 Harmony IR Extender because many of my components are behind closed doors. It works fine so I'd like to use my new Roomie Remote setup (includes a iTach Wi-Fi to Infrared Adapter ) with it to get the IP to IR signals to the components. I'd also like to keep the extender in place for the times we use Harmony One. Anyway, will the Roomie/iTach setup properly feed IR commands through the Harmony IR extender?

The products are just unrelated. So you would probably just place the iTach blaster next to the IR extender as it's a functional replacement for that.

Maybe the answer is the same but I was hoping to put the iTach IR blaser in sight of the Logitech IR extender and the extender would feed that IR signal through to my components.

Yes, that should work.

Thank you. I'll give it a shot this weekend and let you know.

The IR extender works fine with the iTach Wi-Fi to Infrared Adapter, so all is well. Thanks for the assistance.

2013

Is there a way to change the name of the Top and bottom row Title to the name of the activity instead of the label "cable" or "media player"?

If you customize the Remote Design, the Remote Design name will be used instead of the default name.

If I am using the "virtual" verizon remote you provide is it possible to change the name?

Ty

All Virtual Remotes are just a Remote Design and can be customized.

Sorry I mis spoke. I did not mean the virtual remote rather the photographed remote you provide. Name cannot be changed? i.e. from cable to fios.

No, Original Remote images are not Virtual Remotes.

2013

Hi,

I'm using my XBMC with Live TV, and I would like to see the TV Guide instead of the xbmc browsing options. Is this possible?

Another nice to have would be a better Live TV support (browse channel list, or at least include commands for channel up/down, etc).

Yes I am looking for this to.

This was added as a feature of 2.0.4.

I use both guides for xbmc. Currently i have to have a set up for the tv also to use the guide then xbmc to use the movie/tv show guide. meaning i have keep switching between the two.

Is their a way we can have the choice of both guides within the xbmc app to switch between quickly and more seamlessly?

2013

Question: Is anyone else having issues with the guide data? It's refreshing and some channel listings are showing, but there are loads that are missing. Such as the main 5 terrestrial channels, BBC 1/2, ITV, Channel 4/5. There are plenty more missing too. It's been like this for a couple of days now.

Staff response: This issue is reported as resolved now and looks good based on initial tests. Please let us know if you see any further issues.

2013

I have a GC-100-18R from an old set up and I wanted to know if this was compatible. Also I have a non poe switch on my network for my devices, will I be able to use the IP fuctions?



Thanks,



John

The GC100 series is compatible if the firmware has been fully upgraded per the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

Firmware updates to those models require sending them back to the factory, so that's a huge ordeal.

At this point we are strongly advising all users to migrate away from GC100 boxes. The user experience with that original generation box is likely to be quite poor. The number of improvements and fixes in the iTach and now iTach Flex series is almost innumerable since then.

Thank you.

Does my network switch need to be PoE in order to operate via IP?

If you want to use a PoE adapter then yes. If you're just using the normal adapters, no.

Thank you.

2013

Which model is the BD player?

Bd 646 3d player is what is says on top of player. It came with the lg 3d package withe lw5300 tv. Thanks for the quick response!

That's not an IP controllable model per the compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

So you would control that via IR with an iTach IR or L5.

That explains it! Sorry about that I usually check the list but has been over a year since I have had to add anything.

2013

Hi,

I am using the L5 ir device and found the kinovo switcher but not the specific model that I use. The IR codes do not work for my model and when I try to "teach" the IR codes I get BIG X and cannot teach it. I tried other remotes and roomie learns their ir codes just fine. It is only with kinovo that I get and error.

tinyurl.com/bvfogcu

This is the one I am using. Please help as the entire setup is of no value unless I can use the switcher.

Thanks

Three options.
1. First, the device looks like a rebranded Monoprice. We wouldn't be surprised if some of the Monoprice codes already in the library work with it.
2. Some remotes (as you can see) are finicky at best. The angle and distance are factors when learning codes. "Trying again" is actually good advice.
3. Contacting the manufacturer is always an option as well. If you do that, just ask for "Pronto-style" hex codes. Those can be put right into Roomie using the DDK.

Thanks. Can you please provide me instruction on using the DDK.

Regards,

That's located here:

Roomie Remote Support

2013

Is it possible to add custom buttons below an OEM remote? I'd prefer not to have to switch to Roomie-style remotes for each activity -- just for the sake of being able to add a couple of additional buttons (to toggle Zones A and B). Any tips on doing this would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

Just for reference, we call that feature "Original Remotes". It is not possible to customize a Original Remote image right now. That's likely to be coming in a future release.

Regardless of when/whether that comes, our standard advice is, was, and will definitely remain using a Virtual Remote for everything. We realize some people prefer Original Remotes, and wont be removing the feature. More and more functionality in terms of feedback will of course be added to Virtual Remotes that may not be available on the Original Remote.

Understood. Thanks for the reply.

Just a friendly thought:

The term "Virtual Remote" is confusing, because all of Roomie's remotes -- even the Original ones -- are virtual. :-)

2013

I am new to this and was wondering how I can connect my Cox Cable box to Roomie? The box has the following ports on the back: serial connection, S-viedo, digital audio, HDMI, USB, firewire, and ethernet.

I would like to be able to use the guide and DVR on roomie and was wondering what would be the best way to set this up?

That's certainly going to be an infrared device. Note when adding it that Cox is a cable provider, not a box manufacturer. The actual manufacturer name is on the box itself.

Thank you.

So will I be able to have the guide pull up on the remote?

Access to the guide is standard functionality, yes.

Thank you.

2013

Is it possible to have multiple slider, volume control on one remote. All are different manufactures. This would be for multi zone volume control for whole house.

Version 1.7 does not have sliders other than volume on the main volume control IP device. Version 1.8 has all kinds of sliders and you can combine that on one Remote Design for multiple devices.

Can you elaborate on how this is done, exactly? I need this exact functionality, but have yet to figure out how to do it so that it works (and looks) properly.

Are the devices you're configuring added to one room? Version 1.9.3 does require that for feedback. Just add the devices into each room if they're currently separate. Version 2.0 supports feedback devices from any room all on one design without actually adding the devices to each room.

2013

Question: Hi all,

Loving Roomie. Had a small issue with this box though. When I use the guide to switch channels, it hits the enter key no matter which switching style I use. This brings up the channel with an extra overlay I don't want.

Is is there any way to eliminate the unneeded ENTER press at the end?

Staff response: I had the same issue on a Motorola DCt3416 from Comcast. Changing the switching style to Zero Prefix, saving the change, then fully closing the app and reopening fixed it.

Thanks!

2013

My wife does turns on her coffee pot each day at different times. We thought: wish Roomie could turn it on from bed. I see there are some IP controlled AC devices but we only need a one plug that may work with Roomie (I can create a device plist if needed). We would use a pot with a simple on/off switch. Anyone know of something ? Thanks.

Niles AC-3 used with the IP2CC. Use a 12VDC wall wart as the trigger power device wired thru the contacts of the AC-3. I use this to power my tube amplifiers on the 2 channel setup.

Hello

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

belkin.com/us/F7C027/p/P-F7C027

Hello

According to elsewhere on this forum i dont think the belkin works with roomie but am sure insteon would make something suitable.

2013

If you look at the actual DirecTV remote, you'll notice that there are no Page Up/Down buttons. Instead, the Channel Up/Down buttons have a little word "PAGE" on them which means that they serve a dual purpose depending on what screen you're looking at in the DirecTV receiver's user interface.

Can this be replicated on the virtual remote?

Yes. So in other words the buttons are already there because DirecTV uses the same command, same code, same everything, from Channel Up/Down to provide Page Up/Down.

Yup. Works great now. Thank you!

2013

Hello I have a new Samsung TV, and i know it wont power on by IP. If I Purchase this iTach Wi-Fi to Infrared Adapter? will it be able to work?

Thank You,

Yes, infrared is definitely the simplest method to full control of a Samsung TV. The WF2IR or IP2IR are the infrared adapters.

Perfect! Thank You- How do you set it up tho? to work with the tv

Here is the iTach QuickStart:

Roomie Remote Support-ip2ir (Roomie Remote Support)

Thank you very much so the emitter cable sits by the power on "red light" or

Can anyone answer why the power on control function does not work via IP for new Samsung TVs (I have a UN60ES7150)? I realize that the iTach would solve this issue for Roomie control of the system, but it sure seems like there ought to be a software fix for this. Also, even though I did a lot of research before purchasing Roomie but somehow missed this issue until working with Roomie for a couple of hours.

There can be no software "fix" because Samsung builds their TVs such that they do not listen to IP when they are off. Perhaps they could change that in firmware and we're all in favor of letting Samsung know they should do just that. Meanwhile, this isn't exactly breaking news to them we suspect, the chances they will retroactively change this in prior year models just days before introducing the new 2013 models is probably zero, so IR control is likely to continue as the safe bet for Samsung. Panasonic and Sharp are the brands with true IP control (see compatibility list for details).

Is there a good solution for powering on a Samsung TV if the IP2IR and the IR emitter cables are in a media closet but the TV is wall mounted a different room?

Sounds like a WF2IR mounted to the back of the TV would be a good solution to that. Another solution depending on the walls and whether you can do inside wiring may be an emitter extension to the room with the TV.

Don't think inside wiring is an option. And the TV is on a mount that's as close to the wall as humanly possible, so I'm not sure there will be room behind the TV. If there was room, I'd still need to mount the IR emitter on the front of the TV?

At the moment I'm using the Samsung wifi dongle, but more than half the time Roomie is searching for it (even though it has a reserved IP address) and even when it's found, it will only turn the TV off, not on. IR to RF was working with my old AVL300 set-up.

Just to be clear, even if I was able to set up a serial cable from the TV to an IR2SL, I still wouldn't be able to toggle power on the Samsung, right? So another option might be to install a wireless WF2IR with an IR blaster somewhere in the living room? What would the maximum range be?

2012

I just updated to v1.7 & have quick start enabled on my Oppo. I can get the Oppo ios app to discover it & control it but Roomie will not discover it after several attempts. All of my other devices are discovered such as my AVR, Tivo & iTach. I was going to manually add it but don't know what port to use? Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you

We've just seconds ago updated the compatibility list for today's release. The port for Oppo is 19999 if auto-discovery doesn't seem to work with your router. We've never had a real 103 in house for testing, so if you encounter any issues please let us know as this support is clearly hot off the presses. Thanks.

For some reason Roomie would not auto discover my Oppo BDP-103, but I was able to successfully add it to Roomie manually. I entered the IP address, used port 19999 & selected Oppo IP series. One thing I did have to figure out was the power commands. With quick start enabled it would not recognize discrete power on & off. It will not recognize power on at all & it treats power off & power toggle as a toggle only. This is possibly a limitation of the player or current protocols. Everything else seems to work as it should. I would request that the button options available to the non IP virtual remote & on the Oppo iOS app be added to the new IP remote such as Netflix & Vudu, etc. Also is there any word on if or when live feedback will be enabled?

Thank you,

Jan

We have been told live feedback is going to be added to the IP interface but no sign of it yet. We'll certainly add support for it on our side when they do.

Yes, adding those buttons is something that can be done easily in a simple library update.

We've also been told the 103/105 should be able to power on via IP, but we note that Oppo's app does not do that. So we theorize that using +WAKE ON LAN from Roomie and manually entering the real MAC address of the box might power on the 103/105 models.

(Meanwhile, we're getting a 103 for 'testing' to confirm all that as well.)

Good to hear about the live feedback, I figured that would be the case. I am able to power on & off the player from Roomie & the OPPO iOS app with the power toggle (power off works as a toggle in Roomie). Power on is only capable with the 103/105 & only when quick start is enabled in the menu settings. So I had to play around with it a bit to create an activity, with the only negative part is not being able to use discrete power on/off (not a big deal). Hopefully I have been a help & thanks for yours!

I am also having no luck with Roomie discovery of OPPO 103. Is this something I should wait for...(on the horizon soon) or should I manually add it as per above? What limitations will adding it manually impose?

The 103 works fine modulo the auto-discovery. Just add it via Manual IP on port 19999 per the compatibility list.

The following steps will help us fix the 103 auto-discovery:

1. Turn on 'Collect Diagnostics' in Roomie's Settings.
2. Open 'Add Device' in Roomie and leave it open for about 30 seconds.
3. Tap Send Diagnostics and then turn off Collect Diagnostics and email us to let us know.

I have sent diagnostic report as requested. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

I have the oppo 103 but it won't auto-discover. i added manually using port 19999 but it still doesn't work. I put remote in manual mode to test but it simply doesn't work. Downloaded the oppo remote (thru oppo app) and that works fine. What am I doing wrong?

Figured it out. Restarted everything.

2012

I just purchased this and was playign aroudn with it until my Wifi to IR devices arrive and I ran into some challenges. My setup is pretty complex throughout my house so I may need a little assistance.

I need some assistance with setting up my system. Here is what I have in my media room:

(4) Samsung 55 inch LCD television with the ability to get a static IP (Not Internet ready)
(3) Directv HD DVRs - HR-24
(1) Apple TV (plugs into a 2:1 HDMI splitter into Matrix)
(1) Blu-Ray (plugs into a 2:1 HDMI splitter into Matrix)
(1) Sonos connected digital to AVR (Sonos control is lacking to say the least)
(1) Monoprice Matrix Switch

My challenge is that there is no way for me to label each of the devices independently. For instance, if I want to watch DVR 1 on TV 2, watch apple TV on TV1, DVR 3 on TV3 and DVR 1 on TV4 there is no way for me to know which television or DVR I am operating. I currently have each labeled as TV1/2/3/4 and DVR1/2/3 and I let my AVR do the sound processing so that I can move the 7.1 sound to different televisions depending on which one I wan to hear.

How can I label the different devices in the remote so that I can better understand what I am controlling?

The IR devices will make sense once they're attached to the WF2IR as they're then identified by which iTach and which port they are on.

Sonos devices are clearly labelled in Roomie using the name you've given each box during Sonos configuration.

DirecTV is the primary case we're aware of where we'd like to distinguish them more clearly. So for those 3 boxes you'd need to figure out which is which by the long number that is displayed or writing it down. We may add something like a note field in the future for that specifically.

2012

Hello,

I'm setting up my Roomie but not having any luck with being able to control my Pioneer Elite PRO-151FD (Kuro) TV at all. I've tried both the Code Group 1 and 2. The IR flasher lights up, when I test the remote, so I know it's sending the signal, but TV doesn't respond at all. I'm using the stock flasher that came with GlobalCache an I've brought the flasher all the way up to the IR port on the TV to make sure it sees the IR.

Anyone out there with a similar TV and had luck getting it to work? Thanks in advance for any help.

We have our test unit 150 set to 2 retransmits. Standard diagnostics per our FAQ on this topic should help you resolve that which is probably just to set the Retransmit Count.

Diagnostics

Thank you. I was able to get it working. I realized I had the blaster in the wrong port, and it was transmitting the IR far enough to get to the TV.

2012

Hi Guys, I am currently setting up a rather large multiroom system in Roomie, all going well so far and I'm more than comfortable with setting up custom IR files to integrate (and they work well so far), but I am now at a point where I delve into the realms of serial and things don't seem so straight forward as IR (I could be wrong and i'm just not looking at it correctly).

As part of the original AV system I have a Xantech MRC88 (8 zone, 8 source, multiroom system) that works well for what I need. Rather that have to put an IP2IR box in each room and use the existing IR commands in Roomie, that work pretty well) I am opting to take advantage of the built in serial control on the main controller that can have commands supplied to it to control the whole system.

Unlike the IR roomiecodes.plist in the DDK, the serial equivelant does not have a template version to help me along my way.

I have in my possesion a full list of the Xantech codes and codes structures to produce both commands and queries via serial, just not too sure where to start.

One other question, I asume you can, but can you put both IR and serial codes alike into the same .plist file? (I know it is probably a stupid question, but better safe to ask)

Any help would be greatfully accepted :slight_smile:

Phil

The serial example in the DDK shows how to format multiple custom devices. The serial example does provide a template, but of course every device is completely different on serial whereas infrared pretty much works the same way for every device.

What are the different variables for the "Method" string? I have noticed a few different enteries such as lineio, binary, binary-ack. Is there a list available and what they are commonly used for?

I Have managed to get the required commands into the .plist file and into roomie as I need them and the commands are sent through to the serial adapter but still nothing happens :frowning: I know that the Xantech uses a null modem connection as apposed to straight through but i'm not 100% sure what the cable is that I am using so may need to pop out and buy one that I know is compatible, just to be sure and eliminate it from the list of possible issues.

Another question I have is that the Xantech unit can provide responses and stusus updates to roomie via the serial and was wandering how you go about setting up roomie with all of the different replies, I can send over to support the docs I have for you to look at if that is of any use?

Ok, so I have established I am using the correct cable (confirmed pin out with tester) and it is a straight through cable (Xantech unit makes it a null modem/X-over internally. So I know that the cable is correct.

I have just downloaded and installed iTest and connected to the IP2SL-P adapter and I am trying to send a literal command string to the system but it keeps coming up with an error code of ERR_0:0,016 which doesn't seem to relate properly to anything in the error codes list. I get this ...

2012

Question: The 9.9 is not on the list because there is no such thing as IP control for it. It's not that we decided not to support it, it's that Integra simply didn't build it. Serial should work fine with that model though.

Staff response: I seem to have the feedback working now. The problem was the DHC 9.9 needed to be unplugged. I think? that seemed to fix it. I am not sure why after a period of time the feedback does not work . Typically it fails a day later?

Fixed! For some reason with components by Integra when you shut off control by HDMI the unit needs to be in monitor output main. It says it has shut the feature off but it actually won't until the unit has been put back in monitor main and turned on and off. I am now up and running! Thanks for the help

2012

Question: Hi there, I have a redeye Pro unit as my controller to manage all my IR/Serial and IP connectivity. However, the app isn't as quick as Roomie. I have used Roomie in my office space w/Global Cache products and it's quick and simple.

I was wondering if it is possible for me to use the Roomie Remote with my Redeye Pro unit. Rather than having to replace the redeye pro unit that I paid a lot of money for and switch to a global cache device.

Since the RedEye is accessible through IP I wo...

Staff response: Hi all,

I have the same setup with the Redeye Pro and I have managed successfully to interface the Roomie Remote with it. The solution I have works exceptionally well, for the most part.

The Redeye has an external API that an outside controller can use to control the unit -- it is described in its Advanced Programming Manual. As such, what needs to happen is that the Roomie must send a set of IP (http) commands to make the Redeye control a device, launch an activity etc. In this regard, the Redeye has some major pluses. First, the IR learning in the Redeye is pretty good, and it is easy to set up and store the IR commands for any new device -- their device library is not that great in my opinion. The Redye also allows multiple controllers to attach to the device and tracks state, so you do not have to worry about some IP controlled devices (like the Tivo) which fail if more than one Roomie try to control it simultaneously. As such the Redye provides a seamless gateway for doing all this. The biggest negative with the Redeye is that for a device with 2-way serial control, you have to write all the scripts to monitor feedback. To avoid doing that, I recommend using the iTach serial to control the device and have both the Redeye and the Roomie talk to it -- the Redeye to send the initiation/termination commands and the Roomie to monitor feedback, set volume etc.

The easiest way to actually BUILD the Roomie interface to the Redeye is to use the Redeye's commands for introspection where it can tell you its devices, commands etc when you send it certain http commands. If you get this list, what you can do is to create a Roomie device file that essentially sets up a bunch of Redeye devices that are immediately available then to the Roomie. These devices would include of course the various components controlled by the Redeye, along with a separate Redeye device to lauch the vaious activities. One you have the Redeye devices in your Roomie device list, you can go ahead and configure the Roomie remote as usual. The major difference is you no longer rely on Roomie's IR database and only rely on its user interface. Any command sent from the Roomie is interpreted by the Redeye which sends the appropriate commands to the device controlled in question.

The process above is much simpler than it sounds. Virtually all of the work to create the Redeye devices, commands etc can be automated with simple scripts in Python. I have done so, and can generate my Roomie front-end to the Redeye backend in a matter of minutes. And when it all works (which it does most times...with some occasional hiccups) it really is the best control system I have yet worked with.

And by the way, where it comes to the Redeye, I should point out that the device really is an outstanding product. It can do a lot of things at a price point that is remarkable. While its user interface is less than stellar it DOES manage to reflect device state successfully across ALL con...

2012

Question: device is HR24. using roomie virtual up and down navigation buttons. One touch often causes the unit to go up more than one item, sometimes as many as five (as if i touched the button 5 times). Sometimes it does work one = one. but not always. This is annoying when scrolling my list of recorded programs. How to I calibrate so one touch always equals one movement?

Thanks.

Staff response: A few months ago, I was happy to find this thread, because the no-repeat commands solved my problem.

They worked well for some time. But recently, for some strange reason, the no-repeat commands weren't "registering" on my DirecTV receiver at all. So, that night, I replaced them with normal commands, and all worked well — until a few nights ago. Now, one tap is moving the cursor by 2 or 3 steps again.

So, I want to switch back to the no-repeat commands — except now, the no-repeat commands are missing from the list of available commands.

I'm quite puzzled, as this was very simple, both of the previous times. What would cause the no-repeat commands to disappear? (And yes, I'm selecting the correct component — the DirecTV receiver.)

2012

I am using roomie with great success on my simple living room system. Now it's time to tackle my theater. Can anyone tell me if my Marantz 8003 can be controlled through the Ethernet port or will I have to use the RS232 port? Want to order correct Itach device.
Thanks

That's definitely going to be an IR device.

I know this thread is a little old, but I'm wondering why you say this device will definitely be an IR one. It has full RS232 control, which I'm currently using with feedback on a Pronto. Do you think it's sufficiently different from newer Marantz models that Roomie won't work with it via RS232?

Yes, of course, we didn't mean to imply it wouldn't support serial. It would simply not support IP control.

Although at the time if we recall correctly we may not have had the necessary pre-2008 Marantz command set in Roomie so it was probably correct when we said it but now serial should work fine for that model as well.

Thank you.

OK - thanks very much for that quick clarification.

this is interesting news. sddawson, is there a source for serial commands? I am assuming the Roomie files will be functional but would be nice to have feedback. At this point I don't know enough to invest in the serial controller. I have adequate ir control but serial with feedback is intriguing.

Thanks

drdk

Not sure if the Roomie support for older Marantz models supports feedback. Can Roomie please verify that? I found some very capable AV8003 scripts for use with the Pronto, that included feedback. I also have a manual that came with the AV8003 that details every RS232 command and its feedback.

Yes that set has volume, mute, power, input, and mode feedback as per the Serial Compatibility list:


Thank you.

2012

Question: Hello,
The remote is working well so far and I am getting used to each controller. My main problem is using multiple remotes to watch TV with a channel guide. Once the "watch tv" activity turns on the Pioneer receiver, Vizio TV and Cisco cable box (using a samsung remote profile) the remote is set to Samsung cable with the channel guide on the right side.

If another user uses an iPad or phone to 'watch tv" then the system turns off. I understand it sends a command to "power on" the dev...

Staff response: This is a complex, multi-layered issue that is going to depend heavily on the exact devices and control methods involved. For instance, some devices such as most IP controlled receivers only support one connection at a time. Thus using multiple iOS devices against such a receiver at the same time is going to have problems. There is however a workaround for that one which is to hook it up via serial instead as the IP2SL/WF2SL provides built-in multiple connection support.

Meanwhile, there are other potential issues when using multiple iOS devices against the same targets. One you mention is having a device in the mix which is a pure POWER TOGGLE infrared device. In that case if you want to use multiple iOS devices simultaneously, you would want to remove the power commands from normal usage and put them into a special activity button such as "System On" or just leave the device on and use the "Show in Room" feature to bring up the remote. It depends on the device itself whether there may be additional options. For instance, many devices have a sort of covert discrete power on/off command. Blu-ray Players often respond to Play as a power on, and then a Play-PowerToggle sequence is equivalent to power off.

So the solutions here are very system and device specific with different potential issues based on what kind of control method is being used.

2012

Question: How does one specify a program to run when using the ISY-99 device?

Staff response: Maybe because this thread is 2 years old but the YOUR-ISY-IP/nodes/programs did not work for me.

Here's how I was able to get ISY programs to run in Roomie:

1. Find the IP address of the ISY. You can do this by logging into your router. It will be 192.168.x.yyy. X and YYY are numbers you will get from your router for the ISY.
2. Once logged in, find the program you want to control. Move the mouse curser over the program, don't click on the program, a four digit number will display at the bottom to the screen.

3. In Roomie, edit the activity to which you want to add an Insteon program. Once in the activity, click on Remote Design, scroll down to Add Button…,click on button, give it a name, e.g. Theater Intermission, then click on Add Action, select Insteon Automation ISY 99i. Click on .Program Run Then. Select Node, it appears that you can‘t change it as the “X” does not delete the 6 digit Insteon-looking code, but just start typing, it will take the four digit code you found above.
4. Save your way out and test it.

2012

Saving the guide settings saves to the device associated with the current Activity. It can be a bit confusing and is simpler in 1.5. Meanwhile, just make sure that you first open the Activity which has the target channel device set in the 'Opens Remote' field. Then setup the guide for that device and Save.

The guide that is displayed during the time when no Activity is open or Roomie has just been launched fresh is for the first channel changing capable device in your device list.

hi

i have 1.5.2 and does not save the guide, everytime i restart the app, or change to another room and get back, i have to input data again

Also, when guide is working, does not send commands

settings:
Viewsat remote
Activity/Viewsat remote
Opens remote (viewsat)
guide
Dish Mcallen Tx

Hardware:
itach
viewsat with Legal dish sub (does not like dish GUI)
wifi n

Thanks in advanced

This is clarified in a future release. For the 1.5.X series, just make sure you have (1) opened an Activity, and (2) that Activity has a device capable of channel changes set as its 'Opens Remote' device, and (3) given 1 and 2, then edit the guide settings.

Just being in a room will not configure the guide for a specific device.

thanks for quick reply

since the first time i did that, but no saving, also does not change channel from guide

That means it's not connected to the correct device per step 2 above.

Support can look at your configuration to tell you which step still needs to be performed.

2012

I have been using Roomie for a few months and I would like to make some adjustments. My setup:



Room 1:

Yamaha HTR-8063 (Zone 1)
Scientific Atlanta PVR 8300 (HD)
Apple TV 2nd Gen used as an airplay device from iTunes
Sony TV

Room 2:

Zone 2 of Room 1 Yamaha
Scientific Atlanta (SD)
old sony CRT TV
itach IP2IR

Questions:

Is it possible to have diffeent guides for different Scientific Atlanda devices? The channels for SD and HD are different and I currently have all channels on both devices;
Is it possible to remove the genius and mix playlist from the "iTunes guide"? They do not appear on my iTunes playlist and they clutter my roomie guide;
Roomie accesses my Yamaha from IP. I am considering buying a iTachIP2Serial device. What would be the advantages other than having my 2 iphones and 2 ipads access it? Will it work on my HTR-8063? This model is not listed on the serial compatibility list (it is serial enabled)

Thanks

The selected channels for a given provider will be the same across devices. Genius will always be listed as an item. Apparently that receiver model is a Canadian RXA-1000 so that should work fine via serial.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Will I gain somethig by going serial instead of IP?

Multiple connection support is the primary benefit of going serial over IP with that model.

2012

I see you can run lights or scenes from roomie, but is there a way to run programs? I can create a rest url to trigger the program but I am looking for a more user friend way to trigger programs.

Im really hoping for the same thing, I put a feature request in when I first got the app. This would a great way to really integrate the room lighting with Roomie.

We've added a set of .PROGRAM commands to the next library update. Parameter 1 in the commands needs to be your Program ID which you can lookup by using this URL on your ISY99:

your-ISY-IP-Address/rest/programs

Get the "program id" of the program you want to reference and enter that into Roomie as Parameter 1 for any of the .PROGRAM commands.

These changes are now live:

... e-changes/

Great! Will be integrating this today! woot :slight_smile:

Thanks!! I grabbed the update last night and it is working great!

2012

I need to use a button to toggle a Zone on my multi zone amp on and off. Is there a way to cycle commands. So on first press - ON, next press OFF.

Thanks!

I would like to do this as well with a light switch.

Buttons that are associated with a supported device such as Lutron RadioRA 2 or just about anything on the supported IP/Serial list that lists a specific toggle such as Power in the Feedback column can be configured as a toggle button. Opening the default Activity Roomie generates for such devices will show exactly how such buttons are configured.

Can the icon be toggled to reflect the state?

The button shows the toggle mode. The 2.1 overview video shows how that works:

<img style="padding:5px 5px 5px 5px;" title="2.1 Feature Overview" src="/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/playoverview.png" alt="2.1 Feature Overview" width="176" height="137" />

2012

I'm unable to get my Marantz SR6006 receiver to turn on for an activity once it is turned off. Tried uninstall/reinstall app, delete all decives, no luck. Tips?

Oh, forgot, have the most recent device library update

This should resolve that:

Roomie Remote Support

Thanks. Must have missed that in my search. Outstanding product! Just what I was looking for! As I play around and learn the setup, there is one downside, it is going to cause me to upgrade from an ipod touch to an ipad! :wink:

2012

I have an Optoma projector that looks like the only method of control is IR. Do you happen to know if there are discrete On/Off commands in your codeset or if there is a sequence that can mimick discrete On/Off?

All of the Optoma projector codesets we support have discrete power commands.

The Optoma HD 80 has a serial port. Can I control it with the adapter? Also, would I need a straight through or null modem cable?

The protocol for that is not in the main library, but we do provide a DDK for adding it:

Roomie Remote Support

2012

Hello,

I just purchased a wifi IR ITACH . Is there a way to join the wifi to my Home Network? or just does it creat is own wifi signal? if it does how to you set it up and if not what can i do?

Sounds like you might want to walk through the QuickStart guide:

Roomie Remote Support

ahh Perfect! I found it! thanks.. Also i have a samsung Smart TV and Were do i put the IR at ?

Depending on your Samsung model, it is usually in the bottom right of the bezel somewhere. The best thing to do is get a bright flashlight and shine it at an angle all the way around the edge and that can generally let you see the IR receiver. You can then test it by holding your original remote an inch or so away to verify.

2012

To turn on Incoming Call Pause, just open Settings and turn on "Incoming Call Pauses". If you have an Activity open with a Virtual Remote that has a Pause button while receiving an incoming call, Roomie will send that Pause command immediately when the call starts ringing.

I must be missing something. How does Roomie know the ring is occurring. What connects to the phone?

How do I use the L5? - is there a guide I can read?

Incoming Call Pause watches for incoming calls on the iOS device. If you mean some other phone like a phone on your desk or something, that's not related of course.

The L5 shows up as a controller just like the iTach when you use Add Device. The Tutorial video linked on the right side of this page would be a good introduction for that.

Got it, didn't plug in the L5 so I guess that is why I could not find it...

BTW - great work with this SW, having a lot of fun setting it up and using it.

Thx for the help and have a fantastic holiday!!!

2012

I am using Roomie for a while now, and I must say i am very happy with this remote. The only thing i think is not so great, is the tv guide. If i select canal digitaal HD channels together with my area code, i get the wrong not complete list. I postet this before. A solution was to select Caiw HD netherlands. But now since a few days, also with this one, epg data is missing for several channels (ND1HD, ND2HD, ND3HD, Veronica). So, the tv guide is not my favotite thing of Roomie Remote. Maybe it is possible to make this better?

Any guide data errors should be reported to support with your country, Postal Code, provider name, and examples of up to 3 channels that have incorrect data and what data you were expecting if the data is incorrect.

Ok, tomorrow I will try to do that.

Message send to (I used the contact sheet)

Is it possible to use the direct mail, and attach pictures?

Would make it easier....

Frank

2012

I'd like to create a macro to turn on pandora on the DirectTV. The only way I see is to script a macro: MENU:(series of arrow keys to get to pandora): then SELECT. However in Roomie there is no function SELECT. Any ideas?

CURSOR ENTER is the name for that button.

Perfect. I don't know how I missed it! Does direct tv have pandora feedback? If not who does?

We just added Pandora feedback on Yamaha. Next up will be various other receivers such as Denon. Some are better at providing feedback than others, so we're prioritizing those. Some are very poor at feedback in this area (Pioneer).

2012

Network & Hub Setup

Hi roomie users

I have been a roomie user from way back, so very familiar with system.

Out of the blue my Sony PJ model 385 that is ethernet wire networked ( spectrum modem and a netgear router to power on/off this and all my theater devices thru historical roomie commands. All Has worked flawlessly.

But about a week or 2 ago, something changed (???) Now i have to turn PJ on manually using the sony remote😳, all other devices work thru commands as they always have. I have checked all network settings, all devices are connected either using ethernet cable or thru my connected ITACH. The PJs ip address matches that in the PJ netgear network settings, and in roomie remote device set up and activities. I have done hard reset on my netgear router, network splitter ..nothing has worked. At my wits end..using remote is only way on/off.

In past this problem was fixed when i discovered the ip address in roomie app did not match that on netgear router.

I would appreciate any thoughts, help..

Thanks in advance

Peter

2025

I have a 2010 Sony TV XBR60L900. I’m having trouble with powering it on and off via the network from Roomie. It works from HomeKit. Any ideas?

Staff response: Are you sure that model/year is correct? Back then would have been IR units for Sony. And it is safe to say HomeKit wouldn't work on those either as only very modern TVs were ever supported by that. Perhaps you mean AppleTV control works because that is simply IR. If by chance it did have IP, it would be controlled by the Roomie codeset named "Older Models (Pre-2013)". You'd need to verify which port via the Compatibility list etc.

2024

Question: I have a iTach Flex connected via serial to a 43" Frame TV. I can power on the Frame via WOL, but can't figure out how to turn it off?

Attached is the list of available commands.

I'd really appreciate any help.

Staff response: Looks like you configured the Relay codeset. If you're connecting to a Samsung TV, you want the Samsung EX-Link codeset instead.

Did you configure the iTach Flex? It has numerous settings here such as the Baud Rate. Also cable type. Lots of variables. This is not a support venue.

2024

I just upgraded Roomie Remote to multi-home because I also have a condo, but now I'm getting this message keep popping up: Home Wi-Fi network not detected. Activate a VPN for Remote Access. I think that even though my WiFi is working fine, and even though I have the current house set correctly, it is trying to connect to the other activities for some reason. Is there a setting to tell it to ignore all but the selected Home? It's annoying that this message always pops and if you go to the main menu, the top item shows 'Offline' even though I am connected to my local network and can control my local devices. I'm using an iPad Mini 4 running 15.4.1 as the normal controller.

Staff response: Each home has a "Wi-Fi SSID" setting. If a home is the Active Home, the current Wi-Fi SSID must equal that Wi-Fi SSID setting. If it does not, you get notified.

Or you can just disable all of that by setting the field to blank as documented.

Thanks. That was way too easy.

2022

Question: I have 2 of the branded older branded Roomie (or Simple control) Itach flex wifi adaptors and just wanted to make sure I could use the Global Cache FLC-SL-232 Flex Link RS232 cable with it.

I need rs232 control, which has more control options for an Epson LS12000 projector vs the standard infrared codeset.

https://www.amazon.com/Global-Cache-Serial-RS232-FL-SL/dp/B01ANXDEEM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Z4HET1CT9MZ4&keywords=Global+Cache+Flex+Link+Serial+Cable&qid=1671723890&sprefix=global+cache+flex+l...

Staff response: The correct cables should be linked in several places on the website.

Here is the normal RS-232 cable:

https://amzn.to/3HWMCJK

Here is the other one, a mini RS-232 cable usually used for Samsung TVs and a few others:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Global-Cache-GCFLCSLMJ-6-5-ft-Flex-Link-RS232-Mini-Jack-Cable/865496712

(I can't find the right Amazon link at the moment for the mini jack cable, clearly there is some problem there, I've ping'ed Global Caché.)

2022

I am moving to a new network config and when using the VPN for Roomie access, I need to create port forwards. Old VPN and network config worked fine so I know this is down to ports and the primary controller relay.

I have all of the direct control devices working with a port forward such as Directv (port 8080) and AppleTV (port 52383), but need some help for my Denon receiver that is connected via an ip2sl rs232 and using the relay function at the Primary Controller.

I am assuming that when using the Roomie app (VPN-to-LAN or LAN), it is sending each message to the Primary Controller (iPad - 192.168.0.197) which then relays that message to the Denon ip2sl rs232 device at 192.168.0.143:4999.

My question is, what port is the Roomie app using to send the relay request to the Primary Controller from the device I am using? I have tried 80, 443, and 4999 with no success.

Thanks for any insight.

Staff response: Without commenting on the concept, the simple answer is that such internal messages are sent over UDP 47148.

Thanks Will for the quick insight. Was hoping that would be it but no luck. I know it is an odd setup right now so appreciate your response.

I also tried turning off the Relay function since this Denon is being controlled through RS232. I assume with that turned off, Roomie should be sending out a message direct to 192.168.0.143:4999 similar to what it is doing for Directv at 8080. But even with that, this is the only device that does not connect which seems even more odd.

This device is working fine on the local LAN connected devices and is accessible via the VPN and forwards though its port 80 web interface and other devices with odd ports such as 4997 are working too through the VPN. I am guessing now it is something with this specific device but that seems off considering all other devices not using Relay work through the VPN and it works on the local LAN too.

Time for more digging.

2021

Looked through the manual and the DDK. Didn't find an answer.

Is it possible to force a custom device to always be routed through the primary controller?

<key>brand</key>
<string>Muxlab</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>500443 - 8x8 HDMI Matrix Switcher</string>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
--- snip ---
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>lineio</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>21

Staff response: Insert this key at the top-level (same level as brand):

<key>codeSetMetadata</key>
<dict>
\t<key>hrm</key>
</dict>

Thanks, Will. Will give it a try.

2021

Just checking is anyone has used the HOOBS hub to bring all HomeKit compatible devices under one hub and then use Roomie Remote HomeKit Sync to see the devices in RR

Anyways I wanted to give it a try…got HOOBS ver 4 and Wow…it works like a charm so far…linked MyQ Garage Door openers and first up l can see in HomeKit then within few minutes it showed up in Roomie Remote !!! Amazing!!!! Next I am trying ISY…got first few devices working, but the list is long…50+ Insteon devices.

Just FYI l have the MyQ Garage unit w/o the HomeKit Bridge saves $$

2021

Hello - I looking for suggestions accessing Roomie outside of my home network via VPN. I have a TUN OpenVPN server running inside a virtual box on an iMac. The server seems to work fine as I can access local resources from outside the network. However, Roomie is non-responsive from outside the network unless I am using the Primary Roomie device when outside the network. I was curious if users have any tried and true VPN solutions or recommendations that work well with Roomie. Thanks all.

I don't use VPN, but wondering if you read this little blurb in the User Guide:

> The Wi-Fi SSID field will attempt to auto-populate, but may need to be manually set. If you use third-party VPN software, setting this field will allow Roomie Remote to detect whether you are on your home network, whether you are current connected to a VPN, and whether you can currently control your devices. You will then be able to receive appropriate warnings if your connectivity is not correct for your home.

Yes I did read that tip in the setup guide and the WiFi ID field was already populated. Thanks.

2021

I am just experimenting with smartthings and some lighting and am having some issues getting feedback/synchronization into roomie.
Has anyone else been able to get this to work on their smartthings intergration.

I can confirm that the dimmable light works fine in Smartthings app.
I have set up the smartthings integration below.
Community Knowledge Base

I can add smartthings cloud to roomie fine and can see the lights in the manifest. I am also able to turn them on/of (response time is about 10secs so not idea)
But I don't get any brightness or on/off feedback.

Before I keep going down this rabbit hole I thought I see if anyone else had success getting this working.

Staff response: Most likely that has to do with some specific brand/type of light as light brightness has worked with ST for ages. You can add Hue lights into ST to control them there for instance with Brightness control. (And also add them directly through Hue on the LAN, and also add them through HomeKit so they're good test lights.)

Can be determined from the log which you would send to support if you need help interpreting it.

Hey Will sorry, i missed your reply.

I am not sure if this might be the issue or not but the lights don't connect directly to the smartthings hub.
The lights connect to another hub which has integration with Smartthings hub.
So when you go to smartthings to add a new device I select the brand (in this case Pixel Plus) and then select the light.
It added it into the smarthings app just as it would any other light and you have full control of it in smartthings.
But it is just not transfering that info to roomie. I can see the light in roomie and can add it via the manifest but as mention there is no feedback.

Do you know if this set up is supported or does roomie only support devices directly connected to smartthings?
If this is meant to work I will get a log and shoot it though for you guys to look at.

2020

Hi

I have just moved to version 6 and I now get a popup that says "foreign network detected, activate a VPN for remote acces". I am on my local wifi network. What could be the issue?

I am also being told that I am offline with my iPhone and online with my iPad, why is that? They ar both on my home network, and I am on the same iCloud account.

Thanks!

Per

Staff response: Go to the Homes panel and enter the proper Wi-Fi SSID for the Home. Due to Apple restrictions, it's not set for upgrading users so as noted in the What's New file, it should be set manually.

Thank you very much, that did the trick!

2019

Just trying out SimpleControl 5 for the first time. I'm controlling (so far) a Marantz AV7703, LG OLED B7, Apple TV 4k, and a Sonos system. SC5 is the first (only?) remote solution I've found with full IP control of these devices.

My question is should I set up my TV, processor, and Apple TV with fixed IP addresses? Would using fixed IP addresses make for easier configuration and greater reliability? FWIW, they all are on my hardwired ethernet network.

Thanks!

I would set static IPs on the device (preferably) or on your router - as you add more devices (and multiple devices of the same type, like a second apple tv in another room) it is a lot easier to keep track of them. For instance I have 4 pioneer receivers and if one stops working I can do a quick network scan to look for it since I know that the Family Room receiver is .181.

SC will follow a device, so if its IP changes it should make the necessary adjustments. You may not have run into since it is likely your devices have retained the same IP unless you restarted your router.

This is a bit addictive since more and more devices can be controlled via IP, and older IR components can be controlled with a simple blaster.

We have AV equipment in 9 rooms (including outside) and haven't touched an IR remote (except for setup or troubleshooting) in about 5 years

2018

1. Is “hub relay” something I need to configure or is it pre-configured in the device configurations? It appears to not be a user setting but I wanted to make sure.

2. My Pioneer VSX-822K receiver shows up in Alexa as a light so I can’t control anything on it except on/off. Is there something I’m missing or is it an issue for support?

3. When would I want to run an activity from the hub (iOS)?

Thanks, Bill

Staff response: Nothing you need to do to enable Hub relay. If you have a Hub configured, devices that we have configured as Hub relay are already using it.

Sounds like a toggle Activity or device. In an Alexa Smart Home skill, everything is basically on/off. For more detailed control, use the Custom Skill.

Many reasons. The most common is a long-running sequence of events. A shutdown sequence that takes 30 seconds for instance would be good as Run from Simple Hub to ensure it completes properly whereas if you ran it on your phone and then closed the app while it was running, it would not complete.

2018

Hi there,

Trying to get it to when August Smart lock is in unlocked status the lights turn on and vice versa. Not working and I’m not sure why. Here is an image.

Staff response: You're using unrelated status. Current State is not the same as Target State. For a trigger like this, you'd want to use Current State. Target State is what you set. Given usage of Current State, Support can certainly help if you have a question within that. There are many parameters that you'll need to provide such as what platform your Hub is on, etc and they will ask those to determine the issue.

2018

Hello!

Where and how can I modify the configuration file to close the connection after sending the command.
This is required by some devices for correct operation when you press and hold. (Volume, channels, right, left, up, down ...)
For example, satellite receivers Fortis
https://itunes.apple.com/app/air-tivi/id629867070?mt=8

My understanding is Simple Control automatically closes the connection after 15 seconds of no activity.

I’m talking about setting up a connection after sending a command in order to immediately send another. Some devices require this when managing over IP. For example, my satellite tuner. If you do not close the connection when each command is scrolled through a list of channels or a guide, the tuner starts to freeze and slow down until the scrolling stops.

2018

My iPhone (iOS 11) has started dropping and/or taking minutes to connect to SimpleHub (mac-mini, Sierra).

It used to work fine but now, not.

I'm using Caffeine to keep my Mac awake, and the wifi is at max strength.

Am tempted to stop using the Hub. What would be pros and cons of dropping the Hub?

Stuart

Did it break after upgrading iPhone to iOS-11?

I'm running Simple-Hub for Mac. All good here.

Mac-Mini (Late 2012)
- but with Ethernet hard-line wire (WiFi disabled)
- macOS Sierra
- Computer Sleep: Never, Display Sleep: 10 mins
- HDD-Sleep and Wake for Network both checked/enabled
iPhone-5 but with iOS-10.x
- Simple Control 4.5.x in Guided Mode
- Allowed to Sleep after 30 minutes (but Simple-Hub handles sync fine)

I use a Fixed-IP for Mac, but I suppose a "Reserved IP" at router is about the same end-result.
Mac can even be "headless" and you can connect by RealVNC VNC-Viewer for light duty.

If you stop using the Simple-Hub, you will not have it's Features available any more. I suppose you could try turning an iOS device into a Simple-Hub. Maybe, even the one you use as your main-remote.

Sorry about tardy reply.

No, it doesn’t seem to be an IOs11 thing.

Just takes for ever to connect to my Simple Hub.
Oddly, it also takes forever to connect to my Denon 1200W AVR.
Maybe they are connected?

My setup is:
My wife and I using SimpleControl on our iPhones.
Simple Hub on Mac OS.
DHCP.
Caffeine to keep the Mac awake.

What is guided mode? I can’t find it.

Stuart

I’ve also changed a setting on my router - I have disabled ‘Authoritative DHCP’.
Will report back.

S

Blockquote

BlockquoteOddly, it also takes forever to connect to my Denon 1200W AVR.

Yes, I would fix that first if possible.

I’ve also changed a setting on my router - I have disabled ‘Authoritative DHCP’.

I've never really seen that or used that option.

I've had the best luck with Fixed-IPs (outside of DHCP range) . Alternatively, when using IPs handed-out from DHCP, I always go into Router and Reserve that IP to that device so it always grabs the same one.
One way or the other, seems like devices are more easily found on the network if their IPs aren't changing all the time.

So the router setting made no difference, but the problem is when my wife and I are in the same room at the same time, each running the app.

Closing and restarting the app, gains control.

I suspect that it's a limitation of my Denon AVR. Any thoughts?

Covered in KB:

Thanks Will - I just found it myself. Only took three months!

Stuart

Thanks again Will. Not only does it work well now, it's faster too!
FYI, Denon issued a firmware upgrade in the UK for the AVR X1200W two days ago, it still works and the sound's improved as well.

Stuart

2017

Hi there, I've just got the new Virgin V6 box and I am unable to setup the Iphone Simple Controll app to control it. I've been faffing for hours with no joy. The box is connected to my home network via Ethernet and connects remotely to outside of my network, it shows up in the app and I can add it in but for the life of me I cannot get it to work. Also I am unable to ping the box although it show up in my network scans. Any help much appreciated.

Staff response: If I recall, we had a user with such a box recently and they were able to make it work as a TiVo. So you would want to add via manual IP on port 31339 brand TiVo category Virgin, and make sure "Network Control" is turned on in the menus.

a user.alan (#3):
Hi there,

I have an old Virgin Tivo box and use Simple Control and have a few questions regarding the new V6 box, hope you don't mind.

You mention that your box is connected to your home network. Is this through cable or WiFi? Is your home network also providing the TV feed or is this a separate feed?

Did you manage to get it working? I currently use an iTach IP2IR bridge, but since the V6 has a bluetooth remote clearly this will not work and I will have to use IP control.

Thanks in advance for your response.

Bill

2017

Hello all,

My current setup includes the original Roomie Remote Blaster Ethernet. I also have a Vera Lite hub that ties in all my zwave devices (light dimmer switches and Yale Touch keypad lock and a RTSP Foscam network camera.

Now that Echo and Google home are out, I would love to have voice activated commands. Based on what I am reading, it appears that google home does not integrate directly with simple control. However, I do see that google home works with Smartthings Hub and that Smartthings can be integrated with Simple Control. So by the transitive property (A=B,B=C, then A=C) does that mean I can theoretically have Google Home work with Simple Control? are there or would there be any restrictions or pitfalls if I go this route? I prefer getting a Google home since I am a dedicated Google user and the google home's other functionality (reminders, notes, google search, etc.) far exceeds alexa's IMO.

If this works, I would get rid of my vera lite and re-sync my zwave devices (lights and door lock and cameras) with a new Smartthings hub. I assume I would be able to control my lights via voice command through google home, would i be able to control my TV and optimum tv box via google home voice commands? (turn on/off TV, channels, DVR, etc.)

Thank you!

Staff response: Attempting to go VoiceThing -> SmartThings -> SC is not going to give you satisfactory control in my opinion. While SmartThings can trigger us, it would be an elaborate network of triggers to make it useful.

I think the notion that Google Home is something you might prefer should be analyzed. Google Home is nascent. They barely have an API and it has only existed a few months. I would give it a couple years to mature. Alexa interfaces with really anything that has any such integration.

Vera and SmartThings are both perfectly good ZWave interfaces. I would interface the voice solution with Simple Control as you'll then have a broader solution for controlling everything rather than just the subset of things that your ZWave box understands. And we support Alexa extensively using both the Custom Skill and the Smart Home Skill.

2017

I need SImple Hub v4.5 for MacOS but I can only find a download link for the new v5. Where can I find v4.5 please?

Staff response: These links are permanent. Remember that Simple Hub usage with 4.5 requires a Simple Hub License. Version 5 does not require that. Make sure to use the correct version, and ensure that all clients and Hub in any environment are on the same release.

Version 5 Simple Hub (should always reflect latest release):

Version 4.5 Simple Hub (final release for V4 series, requires additional Simple Hub License):

Great, thanks a million! :)

2017

**I use a Mac mini as my hub and most of the time Plex is funning full screen, but sometimes if I've been using it for other things I forget to leave it like this. Is there a way for SC to remotely start Plex in full screen mode that I can enter in the start area?

**Cancel that I found it, but I'll leave this on in case it helps anyone

If you have the SimpleMac hub running you can find an .APPLICATION LAUNCH and use that to open it. :slight_smile:

2017

Question: Hello,

Sorry for the dumb question, does anyone know the port number for Epson projectors working on IP control?

Many thanks !!

Jason

Staff response: We publish that port on the website. It is 4352. No need to stab around in other ports. It either works or it does not. Epson models vary widely on that front. Open a Terminal and use "telnet ipaddress 4352". If it connects, it will probably work. If it doesn't, that model probably needs serial or IR.

2017

Hi,
I've followed the instructions (I think!) on how to setup my SmartThings Hub to trigger Simple Control. However when I open the Simple Sync Trigger App, I Set the Simple Sync Connection but when I press Next all I get is a blank page.

If I press Done I get: Error saving unnamed page please contact developer

Any thoughts on what I've done wrong/how to fix would be greatly appreciated.

Staff response: This issue just started a day or two ago and is a change on the SmartThings side. We don't have any further information yet.

This affects creation of new SmartApp Triggers only. Existing triggers continue to work fine. This does not affect communication from the app to SmartThings. Only SmartThings-side Triggers to Simple Hub. Whether this will be fixed via changes to the scripts we publish or if the SmartThings side will be fixed by SmartThings to return working apps to a working state is unclear at this point. Likely the issue affects many apps on their side.

Staff response: We found a fix for this on our side and republished the Simple Hub SmartThings integration pack with the update. That can be found on this page as usual:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... up-guides/

For those who have already installed it in the past, you will want to update just the Simple-Sync-DeviceType.groovy SmartApp in your SmartThings account and then Publish -> For Me.

Any chance of adding these to a GitHub repository for a more streamlined update process?

2017

I'm intrigued by potentially using the Simple Hub app on my Apple TV. But, before I spend the $70 ($20 for the App and $50 for the license), I do have a couple of questions:
[ul][li]Since the Apple TV doesn't ever really power off, will the Simple Hub app continue to function, even if I'm not actively watching something on the ATV?[/li]
[li]Is there any functionality missing from the Simple Hub app and Hub license vs. the Simple Hub?[/li][/ul]

Staff response: Simple Hub for Apple TV contains the full SimpleHub, no exceptions. The Simple Hub Software License can be purchased in the app (in which case it is tied to your Apple ID) or from our website (tied to your Simple Control account). Use the latter if you may later decide to use another platform for Simple Hub. If you already have a Simple Hub License, just pair with Simple Hub to activate it.

Simple Hub will keep running even if you leave the Apple TV / aren't watching it. If you plan to use it as Simple Hub, make sure to leave Simple Hub running as the foreground app. Apple TV does not support background operation (yet). That's why we recommend a dedicated Apple TV for Simple Hub. Simple Hub used just for camera viewing is really a different use case and none of this applies to that of course. However it does tie together well since the Apple TV is dedicated to Simple Hub anyway, it can also be used to review all your security cameras whenever switching to that input.

2016

Need clarification, does the Simple Control Hub control smart things devices natively? Meaning - do I need a Samsung Smart Things hub if I have a Simple Control HUB?

Staff response: You don't "have" SmartThings if you don't have a SmartThings Hub. Everything in SmartThings goes through their Hub. So the products are totally unrelated. If you have a motion detector in SmartThings, you can use that to trigger Simple Sync. If you have a light in SmartThings, you can use Simple Control (or Simple Sync) to turn it on/off/etc. The systems talk well to each other but don't really overlap.

Quick question regarding Smartthings integration with SC - I have all my lighting controls on a Smartthings hub and can control them without issue in SC, but when I try to control multiple lights (say turn on an entire floor of the house so 10+ lights), I see a fairly lengthy execution of the commands. Is there a delay with each command that can be shortened up or eliminated altogether?

2016

Hi,

I just upgraded to Simple Home from Simple Control Legacy. I have Simple Service, Simple Hub for Mac (licensed), and Simple Multihome license all purchased through the Simple Store. I seem to have the basic components talking to each other, but I have some questions.

Even in the Roomie days I was using it to control stuff in two homes. Everything seemed to show up in the default location , so now that I can create locations, how do I transfer some of those existing devices and activities to a new location?

In the multi-home / multi-location scenario, is Simple Hub intended to be location specific? I've been running Simple Hub on a laptop that goes back and forth between locations in Simple Home I seem to lose the pairing with the Simple Hub in the iOS device.

Is there any documentation on Multihome? I've search the Knowledge base and the forums and haven't found anything.

Thanks - David

Staff response: Each Location must have a Simple Hub. It is now so trivial to run a Simple Hub including simply by turning it on in an existing iOS device that this burden should be minimized.

If the previous way you managed multiple homes was by combining everything into one configuration, you will want to remove everything related to different homes and create each location using the Add Location feature.

If the previous way you managed multiple homes was using the recommended path of storing each configuration separately and then swapping them in as needed via Dropbox, you just need to pair with the Hub at each location with that location's configuration active.

Yes, lots of documentation was added as part of this release, see the Simple Control Setup Guide:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... up-guides/

2016

a user.alan (#1):
Hi,

I currently have Simple Hub running on an old MAC. I am thinking of purchasing the Simple Hub Appliance - if I do can I use the same license, or will I have to purchase a new one?

I think the answer is the former but I'd be grateful if anyone could confirm.

Kind Regards,

Alan

Staff response: As long as you purchased a "Simple Hub License" from our website, and that is the name you see on your order, the license works with any of the 4 Simple Hub platforms as it is granted by your account here not by any physical file. The exception to this is the old "Roomie Agent Legacy License". Those are specific to the old product and wont work at all with future Simple Hub releases.

a user.alan (#3):
Much obliged, thank you.

Alan

2016

Hi guys!

There is just an idea, you can modify it to your own needs. I have an old Panasonic VIERA TV that is IP controllable but can't be powered ON via IP, one option is to go IR just to power on, but I don't have a blaster in that room and don't really want sticking it on the TV. So I purchased Raspberry Pi, connected it to the TV via HDMI and put a small script to the /usr/lib/cgi-bin/tvon.cgi
[code]
#!/bin/sh

echo "Content-Type: text/plain\
\
"
echo on 0 | /usr/bin/cec-client -s

echo "OK"
[/code]

That is assuming cec-utils package is installed.

Now Simple Control has an action to silently pull URL rpi1/cgi-bin/tvon.sh as a power on command for the TV. That works as a direct connection of HDMI from RPI to the TV and also works fine if connection is done via A/V Receiver.

Other commands could be implemented that way as well.

2016

Question: I am trying to setup iTune in SimpleHome but iTunes is not showing up / being auto discovered. Will was heplful yesterday and let me know to figure out the port to manually add a device refer to the Device Compatibility chart. Unfortunately for iTunes there is no port listed. Is there a way to manually add this?

I am starting to think I may be asking the wrong question. Is there something on my network that would prevent certain devices from being auto discovered.

My DirectTV boxes, FireTV...

Staff response: Not being able to discover iTunes or other major devices indicates a serious issue on your network that should first be resolved.

First, just restart your iOS device to make sure it's not spurious.

We have a knowledge base article that expands from there. The router is typically the culprit:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... y-network/

iTunes and a few other devices are indeed special cases. They must be discovered, not added manually due to the information and authentication performed during the discovery.

2016

Question: Within my LAN I have device monitoring to verify the status of devices being online and sending alerts when they are not.

Currently, I have the Mac running Simple Hub being monitored, so if it goes down completely, I get an alert. I would like to know if there is a specific HTTP or TCP port I can monitor to check that Simple Hub is working. Right now, if the Mac is running, but somehow Simple Hub is not running (most likely human error), I do not have any way to detect that.

Staff response: 47147 UDP
47147 or 47148 TCP

Yes, that's the case for all Hub editions.

2016

**Hello...

I have a SmartThings V2 hub that I tried adding tonight. I was presented with the SmartThings login, logged in successfully, chose my hub and a few lights to offer access to. However, after hitting the "authorize" button, I received a the following error:

"Pairing Error. Pairing was not successful"

... and nothing was added. Are there known issues with the SmartThings integration currently?

Thanks,

Staff response: This is a known issue in 4.0.7. It will be fixed in the next release. If you really want to get it working ASAP, we do have a workaround if you contact support.

Note this only affects new pairings. Anyone who has already paired with SmartThings is fine.

**Is there a fix for this on the horizon? I'm having the same issue.

Staff response: Yes, 4.1.0 is waiting on Apple and has the fix for that. If you need it now, we can put you into beta, but 4.1.0 should be out within 5-14 days.

Staff response: 4.1 is now live with the fix for this.

2015

hi, I see the MCA-66 is supported as a serial controlled device. I have it connected via a global cache ip2sl and I cant get any control of my MC-66. anyone able to assist?

Make sure your baud rate on the IP2SL is set to 38400. The IP2SL default is 9600 and that throws many first time users.

ya, I have that set to 38400 already. im going to try go buy a new serial cable incase I have a bad cable.

my fault. Im using a null modem cable instead of a straight through cable.

2014

Is it possible to do both RS-232 and IR on the same Itach Flex? One pair of connectors is unused by the DB9 connector.

If you mean pins on the Flex Link Serial Cable, no that cable is specifically for serial and connects directly to the port on the Flex.

It's a fair question that might be worth clarifying in your Roomie parts store because Smarthome is misleading people that you can have serial and IR on the same Triport.

Watch their video. I certainly wish it did work like that!

PS: I have bought my iTach gear here, and will be buying more. Just mentioning it because it will generate support questions.

Yes, the Smarthome website is totally wrong.

iTach products are like bubble gum to a website like that. To be expected. Our consistent statements of "Please note that any iTach not purchased from the Roomie Store may not be compatible" hopefully also imply to users that any other website other than globalcache.com purporting to know about iTach products should be ignored as we see here again in this case.

2014

I have a VSX-43 and trying to set up newly downloaded Roomie Remote. It's on the IP compatibility list, but i'm having some issues. Note that the Pioneer ControlApp sees the device and works just fine on my network.

Bascially the device is not being discovered automatically. I see other devices on my network (iTach, iTunes, Apple TV, Tivo), but the VSX-43 is not showing up. If I put in the IP and port manually some things work (volume up/down but not volume slider, power off works but not power on).

One possible clue - I don't have the remote for the VSX, and while I was able to access the main Setup OSD Menu, I have not been able to get to the Network setup menu. Is there anything I need to do on the VSX to make it discoverable by Roomie?

There is a segment of 2013 Pioneer AV receiver models that don't get auto-detected right now. Those will be auto-detected in the next release, but that has no impact on control when added manually using port 8102.

Anything regarding the commands on the unit would be unrelated to discovery. The power on issue is undoubtedly just the Network Standby setting per the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

That was it - network standby issue. Also did a firmware upgrade and all good since then.

Amazing product, I'm sold.

2013

I'm looking for a mainstream projector recommendation. I currently use a 10+ year old Yamaha surround receiver with an XGA projector, but will be replacing both in the next few months. For now I'm having limited success with a FlexWiFi + Blaster combo, but really see the value of Live Feedback when I upgrade.

I've already selected the Marantz 1604 (or it's successor) for my AVR and am budgeting $900-1200 for a 1080p projector. My dilemma is that very few projectors seem to offer IP control; I've found a few, but they tend to be triple (or more) than my budget allows. Since I've ruled out IR control, it's looking more and more like I will use my FlexWiFi with a serial cable.

So, finally my question: can anyone recommend a 1080p projector in my price range with support for Pure IP control? If not, can I get a recommendation for a projector with serial control?

Thanks!
Kent

I have a Panasonic PT-AE4000 and a Yamaha RX-V667 in my theater. I ran a trigger from the IR output of the Yamaha to the projector, so an AVR power-on will turn on the projector and off as well. Since all the equipment is in a separate room, this made for a simple install.

2013

Hi All - I had a thread started about this subject a few weeks ago. It is closed now because I thought I had the issue fixed. I have two Pioneer Elite Receivers, an SC-68 and an SC-63 on the same network. They are hardwired to the network and I have tried reserved DHCP and static IP addresses. When both are plugged into the network I can see and use them with Roomie and with AVControl2012 for a little while. After about an hour both will become unresponsive. I cannot even ping them. I can unplug one receiver and the other will start responding to IP commands within a few minutes. I can get either one working by unplugging the other.

I have read a ton of discussion about problems people have had with various Pioneer receivers but none concerning multiple receivers on the same network.

Last night I tried changing the network port that according to Pioneer they receive commands on. Each receiver had a different port it was using. The same loss happened after about 50 minutes. I am intending to install Wireshark on the network and do some kind of packet analysis to see if I can figure out what is going on. Haven't had a chance to get it setup yet.

Aside from that I am beginning to think that the current cable modem/router is the culprit. Pioneer Technical Support assures me (for what that is worth) there is no reason I cannot have two of there receivers on one network. I am currently using a Comcast leased SMC Networks SMC8014WG. As well as I can tell it is not a currently manufactured model.

After the long intro, my question. What cable modem/routers are Roomie users successfully using with multiple home theaters on the same network? I have multiple Panasonic Blu-ray players and multiple iTunes/AppleTVs on the network, along with Insteon Lighting control and a Dune HD. All these components were easily configured and remain working in their respective rooms. I have been looking at replacing the leased router with a Motorola SP6141 as I do not need the extra ethernet ports provided by the SMC. Before I go to the expense and hassle of changing over the modem I thought I would ask the Roomie community if they had any insight. At this point I sure could use some recommendations.

2013

We have added a new FAQ for Roomie 1.8 that details the Backup and Synchronization methods in Roomie:

Roomie Remote Support

Wifi sync seems to work nicely among two of my devices that share the same iTunes account, but my wife's 1.8 Roomie isn't picking up the configuration or state changes. How might I troubleshoot this?

To sync up, the devices must be based on the some configuration. So if you just took two devices, configured the same basic stuff on each one, and used them separately, those would never sync. At some point you need to put the same configuration on each one (generally via a Dropbox Restore). From that point they'll recognize they're part of the same "home" and sync everything.

Confirmed, thanks. They were running derivatives of the same config but using dropbox to lock 'em up again did the trick.

Ah yes, interesting point. To get a bit more technical about it, Roomie 1.8 upgrades your configuration to contain a unique "Home ID". So any prior configuration technically doesn't count. Your devices need to be using a configuration that has been introduced to Roomie 1.8 on each device.

Thanks. I had the same issue with wifi sync but after reading this thread I backed up to Dropbox and restored all devices from Dropbox. Wifi sync works now - its fast too!

Wifi sync is half working...I did upgrade to 1.8 on all devices, and then used Dropbox to make sure all iOS devices were using the same config to start.

on one ipad I added a new pop up activity called Options - this activity did appear on all other devices...but when I added a few commands to the activity, they are not appearing in the other iOS devices - when I access the Options activity on other devices, they are empty - on the device I created them on, they are there and working.

not sure how to fix this...

Sounds like they haven't sync'd up. Just restart all of them. Assuming they're all on the same config now and all running 1.8, that should take care of it.

Do you mean force quit them all? What's strange is an activity created on one devices immediately pops up on all the others, but any commands created within those activities are not syncing via wifi.

i did an initial dropbox sync after the 1.8 upgrade (uploaded a config from one devices and downloaded that config to all the other devices)

For me, what WiFi syncs automatically between my devices:

1 - Creation of an Activity

2 - Activity icon

3 - Ordered placement of activity in list

This all happens instantly.

What does not WiFi sync at all:

1) Any creation or editing of commands within the activity.

I'll have to look into this more tomorrow, but any help to troubleshoot would be appreciated.

thanks

The sync of an added/removed command or any edits to the command list does not commit until you Save the Activity. Just adding a command does nothing until you Save it.

With the release a moment ago of version...

2013

Hello,

My apologies if this is a silly question or if it's posted in the wrong forum, but would anyone happen to know if there are any sound bars that support direct IP? I currently have an older Yamaha surround sound system which I'm looking to replace with a good sound bar, mainly for space and aesthetic considerations, and I would dearly like to find one that would work with Roomie's direct IP feature.

Thanks so much!

The Sonos Playbar. It's excellent. Has full volume feedback, built-in streaming services, and lots of Roomie integration.

Sonos PLAYBAR

So will I need an adapter or anything else to use Roomie Remote with the Sonos Playbar?

Thanks so much!

Sonos networking is its own thing. You need either the Playbar directly connected via Ethernet, or another Sonos device connected via Ethernet such as a Sonos Bridge. Beyond that there are no adapters needed.

2013

Both of these sets are connected to the home network via ethernet. Roomie isn't finding either one and when I enter the ip address manually it offers up two different (older) model #s and neither of these work. I primarily just need it to turn them on and off ... that's it. Everything else is controlled through the A/V receiver.

We don't list those models as supporting IP control although that doesn't necessarily mean they don't. If they do support IP control, they probably run it on port 4201. If that works, please let us know so we can update the compatibility list to add them. Selecting the command set for the 141 is probably the most compatible option.

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately - it did not work. While both of these sets have ethernet connections - it appears it is for the set's Home Media Navigator option (streaming of home photos and videos). The 141FD did offer ip control. I was hoping to be able to get this done without additional equipment as everything else works via ip (accept the PS3). Looks like I would have to take the ip to serial option.

Randomizer,

I first posted this reply in my thread that I created a month ago. You will need to purchase an IP2SL for each of your Kuro’s. Only the 9G monitors (PRO-141FD, PRO-101FD, KRP-500M & KRP-600M) can be controlled via IP. The ethernet ports on your models are only for the Home Media Gallery & don’t offer IP control. The RS232 port that says for factory use is where you will need to connect the iTach to. You need a straight through serial cable or RS232 to Cat5/6 adapters with Cat5/6 in between (which is what I use). The Pioneers default baud rate is 9600, so you will need to pull up the iTach interface on your browser & set it to 9600. When I set up my PDP-5020FD I used the PRO-150FD as my TV & it works. It is easy to do & I can offer additional technical assistance if needed. One issue I have found is that the inputs for the Kuro’s are mislabeled incorrect on Roomie, not a big deal just figure out how the inputs match up & you will never need to mess with it after setup.

Roomie,

I have confirmed that the following Pioneer Plasmas can be controlled via IP: PRO-101FD, PRO-141FD, KRP-500M & KRP-600M. (Use port 4201 & enable IP control in display menu settings)

I have also confirmed that the following Pioneer Plasmas can be controlled via serial port: PRO-110FD, PRO-111FD, PRO-150FD, PRO-151FD, PDP-5010FD, PDP-5020FD, PDP-6010FD & PDP-6020FD. (iTach adapter must be set to 9600 baud rate)

I hope this will help update your compatibility list & other satisfied Roomie user like myself!

Thank you. Exactly what I needed to know. I'm off and running.

For the 151 FD, did you select the serial codes for the 150 or the 141?

Use the PRO-150FD for all 8G & 9G Pioneer Plasmas except got the monitors. Use the PRO-141FD for the monitors.

2012

I have my Pioneer Sc-25 av receiver connected via rs-232 and my tv is connected via infrared connection. I am using the GC-100-12 as my controler. Sometimes when I want to enter an activity, my av receiver does not turn on but my tv turns on properly and I have to go to the receiver's control and power it on from there. I am thinking may be sometimes the controler or the assigned command is not able to wake the receiver up. My GC-100 is up to date as per global cache support. Any idea why this is happening?

Old Pioneer models like that often/usually require at least two commands to power on. So you should have the POWER ON command listed at least twice with default delays between them.

I tried adding one more POWER ON command to the list with the default delay and also tried the 1000ms delay between them but the problem is still there.

See page 2 of Pioneer's document for that model which depicts the RS232 wakeup sequence:

pioneerelectronics.com/Stati ... -RS232.pdf

It requires multiple commands and precise timing. If your model is not responding after that, you would need to contact Pioneer support as we actually do have an SC-25 here for testing that does work with that sequence.

We are using POWER ON, delay 200ms then POWER ON, delay 200ms. That is using the 2009 Pioneer command set which is the SC-25 year. That works reliably with our test SC-25 many times a day.

Thanks for sending me the file. I assume the POWER ON command's code would be the PO. But which command in Roomie database is the command that according to the pdf file has to be performed first to wake the CPU up.

It's all POWER ON. Our prior message contains the exact sequence from that document. You might try sending it 3 times for safety.

If I want to have a different delay for my second command which is sent to the receiver which in my case would be the input command, can I change the delay after the second POWER ON command to a longer delay or if I want to do that, I should add the third POWER ON command and then set my desired delay after that.
Thanks

Anything you do after the POWER ON sequence should wait 1-2 full seconds. So if your first action is to send an input change, put a Delay Next Command before that of say 1500ms. Modern receivers generally no longer have this issue but almost everything from 2009 works that way.

Sorry for the confusion but what I mean is the this. Should I do it like this:
POWER ON, delay 200ms,POWER ON, delay 1000ms, input. or
POWER ON, delay 200ms,POWER ON, delay 200ms, POWER ON, delay 1000, input.

The first one works for us and is exactly what we do with that model. The second one wont hurt anything other than taking a trivially longer time to execute.

Thanks for the reply. Just so you know I have already tried the first one and it did not work for me. I may try the second one before contacting the Pioneer's ...

2012

Been running fine for a while with the odd random loss of connection but the frequency seems to be getting worse.
It will work fine then all of a sudden no communication. Then by itself communication again. Cycling the power of the receiver or global chache fixes the issue but not for long. Any ideas what could be causing this? Global cache to the TV works 100% of the time.

Sort of sounds like a Wi-Fi connectivity issue. These kinds of issues are often ignored with simply browser loads, but with real-time network connections can suddenly become noticeable. Other than that, we'd suggest using an iTach as we find the network connectivity of the iTach series to be excellent.

Hmm. I don't like hearing that. I paid a good chunk of change for the GC-100.
Been thinking about updating the wireless router. Do you think that will help?
The TV works 100% of the time.

The wireless router and the GC-100 would be the two variables. We always recommend the iTach series. Strongly. For any purpose. Even for scenarios where it seems like the GC-100 would be the better option, we suggest using multiple iTach units instead.

It could of course be the Wi-Fi router. It could be as easy as repositioning the router.

I picked up the GC-100 because of the two serial and IR ports. It would cost a pretty penny to buy it all separate in iTach devices. When it works it works great.
I have a Dlink 8 port Gigabit switch that everything in the house is plugged into then the linksys wireless router (wrt-350n/dd-wrt) is plugged into the switch supplying internet and wireless to the house.
The wireless router has needed rebooting here and there. Its old and why I'm thinking of upgrading it. Maybe I'll give that a go before buying an iTach.
Do you recommend the wired or wireless iTach? I have everything in the same closet so I'd be good with either.

For eliminating interference questions like this, wired is always going to be better than wireless.

That's what I figured. Wasn't sure if you guys had greater success with one over the other.
I'll try a few things and post back with results before buying an iTach.
Love the app though. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see what 1.7 will bring.

Small update on this.

Bought an Apple Airport Extreme (AC) and have everything plugged into it. iPad connected through WiFi (of course) GC-100 plugged into ethernet port on Airport (1 foot cable) and still getting very random occasions where I'm unable to send commands and get feedback from the Denon. It happens frequently throughout the day, every day. When this happens there are only a few options to get control back.

1. Manually change input on the Denon, this seems to wake up the connection.

2. Reset the GC-100.

I'm going to pick up an iTach and see if this improves anything. I do have one question about the iTach. Will I need to make a special cable or will a straight stereo 1/8" cable work between the Denon and iTach?

If "Manually change input on the Denon" r...

2012

Hi

Love the roomie remote, I'm changing from a harmony link. I have one question so far, how do I get my 2012 panny to turn on using ip control? I have the wake on LAN turned on in the TV menu, I've read the FAQ but I'm missing something. Thanks

I've entered the MAC address manually and the TV still doesn't power on or off using wake on LAN

Does it matter if my TV is accessed to my router wirelessly?

Remember that the MAC Address of the TV will be different on Wi-Fi versus Ethernet. It's likely the MAC from auto-discovery is only applicable on Ethernet so you may need to enter the Wi-Fi MAC. If discovered over Ethernet, there is no need to enter anything as the default MAC is used.

Thank you for the response, when I view the MAC address on the TV it only shows one MAC address, does not differ between wired or wireless. Still having issues

I have a VT50 and I struggled with this for awhile. I got it to work by ensuring that a wake-on-lan signal is actually being sent by roomie. In my case it didn't do this automatically. In other words, "Power Toggle" and "wake on lan" are not the same thing. I never had to mess with MAC addresses. Screenshot: http://flic.kr/p/dGdro8

I continue to have the same problem with my gt50. Have entered the Mac ID I got from the tv, have set WOL and added the command to Roomie to wake on LAN but the tv will not turn on. Everything else works fine. Im using wifi with a Harris router Any suggestions?

Try without the MAC address, it's not always necessary and it'll fail if it's wrong. Then if you have to put it back double check to be certain that the MAC address you're entering in Roomie corresponds to the correct interface on the TV (that is, wifi or ethernet depending on which one you're using).

Good luck, hope that helps.

I'm having the same issue with my 2012 vt50. I've tried with and without the MAC address and have added the WOL command to the activity. I am connecting to the LAN wirelessly. I wonder if that is the problem? No problem controlling the TV once it is on.

For now, I'm able to get the vt50 turned on using HDMI control through my Yamaha receiver. It is an ok work-around but I'd like to figure out the WOL option if possible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Per prior message, yes the issue there is the Wi-Fi MAC. The TV only reports its wired Ethernet MAC to us. Therefore, you need to enter the correct MAC manually into the +WAKE ON LAN command in the correct format. The correct format is shown in the field before you type it in.

If the Mac I get from the menu on the tv is Ethernet and I'm only using wifi how do I get the wifi Mac to use? This should not be so complicated.

Still no luck with my vt50. I double checked my router and confirmed that the MAC address shown on the TV is the correct one. Then I entered it in the WOL command using the format shown. I have the latest software update installed on the TV. Any o...

2012

Has anyone had any luck with controlling this box? The compatibility table says it's supported, but it doesn't show up in the app. Thanks

I use it with a DLA 4. This is an IR controlled device as far as roomie is concerned. You will need to connect an ir receiving eye to the DLA. Mine originally came with RF but I added a generic ir-receiver. See the aton documentation.

You choose your controller (itach in my case) and then you will find/add it under Other Devices -Multizone System.

Hope that helps.

Yes, I use iTach as well for a DLA6. I cut one of the heads off of the IRA matters and connected it directly to the back of the DLA6. See the manual for connecting universal remotes. Actually the manual that came with my unit doesn't show it but the one online at detente website does

Hello Chicagocat, hgmobile and broge5,

How do you like thge aton DLA boxes? I am considering the DLA4 and I have not found many online reviews. I currently have a manual switch box and I was looking for an IP or IR controlled speaker selector to add to my Yamaha - itach IP2IR setup.

Is the sound good? Have you compared this box to other distributed audio systems?



Thanks

Denis

I have not compared it to any other solution. Only use it to distribute sound to non-critical areas like patios etc. sound seems fine.

i do notice that the unit does run very warm. Unit has given me no issues. The RF control works well but you need to be careful of antenna placement - too many walls and reception suffers.

Broge5,

You were able to use a standard IR Emmiter cable plugged into the back of the iTach and then plugged directly into the Aton IR input at the back? It is my understanding that a conversion cable is needed due to different voltages of the 2 devices?

I tried direct wiring the unit as described above but was unable to get it to work. Aton tech support suggested that this would work although it did not.

That's when I added the ir receiver in order to control the Aton via Roomie

hgmobile,

Any idea which particular ir receiver you used?

Ended up using a headphone splitter I had laying around (something like this: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2272476)

So, plugged the male end into port 3 on the iTach (set that port to blaster mode); one female end of the splitter into a blaster; the other female end of the splitter into an emitter.

I cut the head end of the emitter cable and wired that directly into the back of the Aton. Everything seems to work!

I tried it off of port 1 or 2. May not have been sufficient output off thopart sorts. For what it's worth I used a generic 3 wire receiver that I found on amazon. Your method sounds better.

2012

Backup & Migration

How can I move my perpetual unlimited subscription to a different iPad so that it can be used as a primary controller? I’m having problems with my wife’s IPad losing guest sharing intermittently since my IPad is now the primary. Thanks

Staff response: Purchases are tied to an Apple Account. Any iOS device that is configured for a given Apple Account will thus be able to see any purchases from it.

2025

Hi, can anyone confirm that the v9 backup/restore feature saves and restores custom devices?

I’ve restored many times with custom devices intact.

Thank you!

2024

Hope someone in the UK can help. I have a Virgin Media TiVo v6 box with a TV360 software upgrade. I can get Roomie to talk to it. Before the upgrade I had used Global Cache iTach WiFi modules to get the IR signal to the box. However after the upgrade I believe the actual VM remote is now Bluetooth instead of IR. If so, anyone know how I can get this working?

Any one got an answer to this
I currently have a v6 box controlled via IP control
I am looking to upgrade to 360 but worried I will lose control

Anyone got this working yet? I tried Tivo but doesn’t seem to work.
The Sony TV set up works if you categorise the Virgin box as a Ziggo MediaNext box.

2023

I have Roomie Version 6.7.2. Build 2287 installed and I can Backup Roomie but there isn’t any Restore option.

Setting > Home > Backup but no Restore.

Staff response: See the "What's New". Restore was moved to the first screen in 6.7.2 instead of the Home screen. It made no sense to have it on the Home screen when you may be trying to restore a home you don't have locally.

Thanks Will

2021

Hi

I am confused..

My setup is shared over several devices. And I am on version 6.

My issue is that my iPad can turn my tv on and off, my iPhone can not, but it can control the tv once it is turned on (same as my iPad). The MAC adresse is correct on both devices.

What could be my issue?

Regards

Per

SOLVED

I found out why. I had my iPad as preferred primary controller, but I did not have the iPad as always on. Once that was left in default it all worked.

2019

Hello,

Does anyone know how to recreate this file?

I just want to start from scratch as I have been playing around with the custom code sets.

I tried moving the SimpleControlBackup file out of the iCloud folder and then doing a backup from the iPad. No luck.

Any suggestions please?

Regards

Jason

Staff response: What do you mean by "re-create"?

"Start from scratch" sounds like you just need to press "Reset All Settings".

Perfect - thanks Will !

2018

I linked my nest account and the thermostat has been linked, but my camera is not showing up. I have deleted and reinstalled the cloud service multiple times and get the same results. Am I missing something?

Staff response: Typically this is because Nest does not provide any information unless you have an active camera subscription. Inactive cameras don't count in Nest's system.

2017

Hello,

I'm using SimpleControl to control a Loewe Connect ID 40 TV using Global Cache Serial Adapter and a custom RoomieCodes file.
As serial communications allow two way communications, I'd of course like to make use of some of the STATUS commands, specifically .VOLUME STATUS, .POWER STATUS. and .INPUT STATUS.

Reading the DDK documentation, I understand that Roomie needs to know how to interpret the return values, and suggests contacting you when support for specific formats is needed.

I would appreciate you could provide FORMAT support for the following STATUS commands:

Command: .VOLUME STATUS
Value: data volume
Returns: data volume XX
XX being the the volume value in a range from 0-99 (no leading zeros)

Command: .INPUT STATUS
Value: prog
Returns: prog -XX "XYZ"
XX being a negative value in a range from -1 to -25 (no leading zeros)
XYZ being an aribtrary string which is not required in my case

Command: . POWER STATUS
Value: status
Returns: status <power mode> <pip mode> <record mode>
Where <power mode> = tv indicates power on

I can provide the Interface Specification Documentation for LOEWE TVs if required.

Regards
Alexander

Hello,

i'm also very interested in feedback support for Loewe TV's.

Alexander, can you please share your custom RoomieCodes file with us, i think it would help a lot of people !

Regards,
Markus

Hi Markus,

I'm happy to share the file and will post it in the next couple of days.

Cheers
Alexander

I'm looking forward to hearing from you and appreciate any help that you can provide !

Best Regards
Markus

Hi Markus,

I finally got around to completing the custom codes file. Sorry that it took a bit longer.
The code file covers the most common commands for controlling a Loewe Connect ID 40 (actually any Loewe TV with a SL2xx Chassis). I also performed some tests and things worked.

If you are missing anything just drop me a note.

Kind regards
Alexander

Hi,

I have a SL2xx 40" Individual and would like to move from IR control to Serial. Could you kindly share the custom codes file you created?

SimpleControl, Is Loewe IP control on the horizon? Us (otherwise very happy) European users fell a bit left out!

Thanks a lot!

Hi Rolo,

can you send a mail to alexander1967@web.de please.
I'm happy to send you the file.

Cheers
Alexander

Hi Slava,

glad I could help.
Let me know how it goes.

Cheers
Alexander

Hi -

I must be missing somethings obvious here.

I have v5 and per these instructions I must add the xml-formatted commends in the "codes" section of SimpleControlBackup file inside the SimpleControlBackup.zip archive

How do I open/edit the file?

My MacOS defaults to TextEdit app to edit the file, which displays garbage.

I installed the XCode suite and was able to open the file YOU kindly provided, editing out non-Loewe portions. When I try to open the SimpleControlBackup file with XCode I end up with a blank file.

Which format is it in?

Can SC please provide a step-by-step for us mere mortals on adding custom files to the SimpleControlBackup file? Your DDK is perfectly editable by XCode, but how do we ADD it to the SimpleControlBackup?

The best choice is BBEdit to edit backups directly.

However, Xcode is also an excellent choice. The confusion you encountered is that, unlike BBEdit, Xcode needs the file extension added manually. So rename the file to add ".plist" to the end and then you'll be able to open it there as well.

Hi -

$50 is a bit steep for my one-off situation :) So adding the extension worked (the opening/editing part, anyway)

So thank you very much.

2016

I would like to have the option to import a configuration from another user account so I can make changes and then mail back to configuration to save a lot of time. I have one pontential user who owns very similar setups in 3 different locations. I would like to copy one location and import it make changes and save the update for next location.

/Harry

Staff response: This is currently the primary focus of a large part of the team. We expect to release the solution for this hopefully by mid-Summer. It wont involve any import/export/etc. Very automated, simple management of your client configurations. We expect to include this free with all prior purchases of Simple System via the reseller channel. Other channels will also be able to upgrade. The same functionality will also provide effectively true multiple home support.

Good to hear.
By the way, mid-summer eve is the 24 of June in Sweden this year.

Thank in advance.
Harry

2016

Question: I set up my brothers remote some time ago. I created a dropbox account for him and linked the remote to it and am able to do backups OK.

I now wish to set up another device for him and restore the backup but I did not write down the dropbox account name nor do I remember it.

Is there any way through the simple control gui on the device to see what dropbox account the device is linked to?

Thanks for any help.

Staff response: Nope. The way they work, you type your Dropbox account into the Dropbox app, not into Simple Control. We never get any information on what that is. But of course, assuming you haven't changed everything, running the Dropbox app should show it.

2016

Question: If I wanted to give a guest user..
Where must they go in order to create a simple control account?
Is it the store? forums..?

Staff response: store.simplecontrol.com/customer/account/login/

Under "Create an Account".

They need to log into the app as well before you can add them.

2016

Is there any a reason to keep Dropbox linked if I backup the configuration with Roomie Agent?

Having Dropbox forces the same Dropbox account onto each iDevice. Which is not convenient for multiple users with their own Dropbox account and iDevice.

No. At this point Dropbox support is more of a legacy feature we're retaining because we have people that used it in the past and may have their data there. Much more efficient and integrated backup is achieved either via Roomie Agent or the Roomie Service.

Is there any way to upload your own graphic files into Roomie Remote without Dropbox?

Roomie Agent now supports image backup and restore.

Roomie Service backup and restore also handles custom images though they must first be added to Roomie using either Roomie Agent or Dropbox.

2014

So far, I'm loving this app - but before I get too far and lose data, I want to understand how backup and sync options work with multiple devices / multiple rooms.

Initially, I thought iCloud sync would make sense, but on reflection perhaps not, since it would require me to log in with my personal iCloud account on iPads and iPhones in my house that weren't "mine", giving easy access to my other personal data.

So is there some other way to sync multiple iOS devices?

Beyond this, how does back up work? Is the backup from each iOS device tagged in some way so if I need to restore (say, from Dropbox), it "picks" the right backup? If it simply picks the most recent backup, this could be a problem if I last backed up my Family Room iPad, and then choose to restore my Home Theater iPad config, and it auto selects the Family Room config because it was the most recent.

I emailed the configs from both iPads, but they are titled identically, so this will get confusing pretty quick. In essence, what's the best way to manage backup of multiple devices safely, and is their an alternative to syncing that doesn't require the use of my personal iCloud account.

Also, is there a way to copy room configs from one device to another

I guess I'm trying to understand best practices here so I don't paint myself in a corner with building rooms on multiple devices...

Great app!!!

In general, we've used the terms in the app to apply to the best practice for a given service. So for Backup and Restore, we only use those terms with Dropbox (or iTunes File Sharing). For Synchronization, we only use that term with iCloud. A given "home" would have one configuration and that configuration is typically tied to a specific Dropbox. Any iOS device with a different configuration you would link to a different Dropbox.

so then I do need to be careful in where I build and back up from - if I work on the home theater config on one ipad, and later makes change on the family room config on another ipad, I am forever unable to get all rooms up to date since they've diverged...sounds like I'm safer building from one master device, backing that up, and then restoring down to the other devices, if Im reading you right...

im sure its not a priority now, but some where down the road a little more robust backup/restore or even roomie powered sync option, with per room configs, might provide more flexibility and a safer data foundation. As it is, I already started a scenario just like I've described, so it's seems I will need to redo a second room from the primary config and reload to the second ipad....

It sounds like you're saying you want to use someone else's iPad to edit your config. That could cause the confusion you're talking about yes. In general a good solution as long as you can ensure that your usage will be on your devices is to turn on both iCloud Sync (immediate sync between all your devices) and Dropbox Backup/Restore which then allows any...

2012

App Settings & Features

Forgive my terminology. Just updated to latest version of Roomie Remote and AppleTV. Previously, while using AppleTV or Roku, there would be a snapshot of what was currently playing in the center of the gesture pad. That image doesn’t appear any longer. I can’t find an option for activating this within Roomie. I’ve rebooted iPad, AppleTV, Roku and even my router. Does anyone know a solution? TIA

Staff response: Despite the warnings in the app and the notices in the release notes, it is possible that some users do not have both the Apple TV Airplay device and Companion device. These days, especially after the recent tvOS 18.4 release, you need to have both. Your activity for Apple TV should use the Apple TV Airplay device as the Primary Device, and the Apple TV Companion device simply needs to exist anywhere in your configuration. Not having both can cause various "this part of Apple TV control isn't working" issues.

Thank You. Had appletv companion in activity instead of appletv. Works fine now by replacing.

2025

Will the X app on AppleTV automatically carry over all the settings and run in single app mode or will I have to redo the setup through configurator? I have been waiting to switch over to iOS 26 and RoomieX. My current setup is running smoothly and don’t want to introduce problems/complexity if possible. Order of conversion? iPads to IOS 26-AppleTV controller to Roomie X-all iPads to Roomie X (does this sound correct?)

Thanks for advice and help

Staff response: Once installed and working, the only change to the Single App Mode side would be selecting the new app instead of the old app when you engage Single App Mode.

Upgrade Primaries first as per the other thread.

2025

Question: In planning for Roomie X, because it is a different app with more changes than usual, and the current app will exist for current users if they are on older iOS versions, one thing that could certainly accelerate the adoption of various UI improvements would be moving directly to iOS 26. This would mean skipping iOS 18 as the baseline that would normally occur this year. In general, each year we have some number of stragglers that finally evens out a year later which is why we have a 1-year-back ...

* Migrating to iOS 26 in September 25
* Migrating to iOS 26 by January 25
* Migrating to iOS 26 by Summer 26
* Delaying migration due to old devices like iPhone XS
* I never upgrade iOS unless forced to do so

by January 25

Obviously this should be "by January 26", but editing the poll will reset it so leaving it.

It is official. Roomie 10/X will require iOS 26. This should be a one-time thing made easier by the fact that it is a separate app. For 2026, we will return to our normal one version back policy (continuing to support iOS 26).

This will apply to all future apps and all platforms. V9 will stay as it is. Now Showing 3 and Roomie 10 will be for iOS 26, tvOS 26, and macOS 26.

2025

Question: Will-

Any word if Roomie will be supporting R_Volution players in the future? It looks like their R_Video software can now be run on the old Zappiti players and will also be coming to Dune and Zidoo by the end of the year.

https://www.rvolution.com/r-video-experience

Thanks again

Staff response: Looks unchanged. Just add it as a Zappiti player.

Reminder, the forum is not support. So you can post this, but it's a very specific and detailed question about a device with a very small user base. IMO your chances are much better getting things working as you did and contacting support to see what the difference is between what you got working and the normal codeset or port, etc. On that end, we can see your config and diagnostics whereas a forum is speculation.

Or you can do exactly what you said and just enter the HTTP commands into a custom code set. This is all part of the standard user interface these days.

2024

Question: I have 2 of the original network IR devices with the special pigtails in my setup - they both seem to have died in the past month. I don't know why.

Is there a "factory reset" procedure for them? And if that doesn't work...

Does the iTach product simply drop-in and replace the old IR devices? I know I will have to update their IP's - I'm wonder if the app will easily transition to the new device? And the 3 port IR output dongles...

Staff response: Yes, they are identical modulo the logo.

Global Caché has tools/apps that reset them. They work the same.

Yes, you can swap them. Swapping to a different product may not be as simple. Use iTach Flex to replace any Roomie Blaster for instance. These are all linked on our website in the Compatibility page.

It's been so many years that I would strongly advise new units if you're deploying something. Whether you can find appropriate old tools for something from 2015 is dubious. The iTach and iTach Flex line are recommended. As I've said from the beginning, don't use the GC-100 line though it is compatible.

On a related note, they have a fourth product line now called "Global Connect". We don't have sample units of those so it is very likely they are not properly recognized.

2024

A few years back I had Radbeacons configured to auto change rooms. Did they remove this feature?

Staff response: Apple abandoned that many years ago so eventually we did too. If they ever figure out what they are doing for interior location tracking, we'd love to add it back. But clearly, iBeacons wasn't going to be it.

Staff response: On looking into this a bit further, it seems like Apple went the commercial route here with a program called Indoor Maps in 2019 as I now recall. Right now, they say anything smaller than basically a museum is not really appropriate for the program. I would not be surprised if that finally changes soon. I recently used this at Caesar's Palace in Vegas and it was very cool being able to use Apple Maps inside the entire facility including the Find My stuff. But working well inside a home could be a different story. Regardless, it doesn't use iBeacons. Rather, it seems to be entirely based on relative Wi-Fi signal strength.

Even if I ignore the "museum" guidance, it does not appear that we could provide a generalized solution to allow homes of any user to work with this. We need to register the locations, map them, and submit them to Apple which currently requires humans at Apple to correlate your GPS location to your indoor map. However, if Apple were to expand/automate this in the future, this seems like the direction they are going.

https://register.apple.com/indoor#:~:text=Apple%27s%20indoor%20positioning%20technology%20passively,your%20Wi%2DFi%20access%20points.

2023

I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on an easy way to control AirPod volume when watching ATV? Right now I have to pick up my Apple Remote as I don’t know if an easy way to do it with Roomie.

Staff response: The buttons are right there if you use an iPad, but you may have to open the tray to see the AppleTV volume buttons on an iPhone. Anyway, this has been a feature for about a year.

2023

I am looking for someone to help fine tune my roomie setup and programming in the Dallas Area. Any suggestions?

I know it's been a few days, but I'm in the Dallas area... what do you need?

Hi, thanks for reaching out.

I need to fine tune my controls. Currently controlling Directv, old denon via infrared, Sony smart tv, and 3 different rooms. I think my control of the denon, Directv, Sony tv is clunky, particularly switching from Directv to streaming on the Sony tv. Also, would like to use the same source (music) in more than 1 room from just one control if possible.

Also, can probably delete old things I do not use and lower my roomie subscription.

Let me know if you can help and what you would charge.

Michael

2023

Question: How do I find out the App ID's on my Samsung TV? I have a few apps that I want to launch: Paramount+, Max (was HBOMax) and Peacock. I am a new user to Roomie remote so any help would be appreciated!

Staff response: Varies by year/model.

This was right in your log, you could have copied out whatever you needed. The log is easily accessed by any user. Note the capture below has lots of extraneous spaces I didn't cleanup. Make sure to remove those for whatever you use.

```
{
"appId": "3201901017640",
"app_type": 2,
"icon": "/opt/share/webappservice/apps_icon/Fi rstScreen/3201901017640/250x250.png",
"is _lock": 0,
"name": "Disney+ "
},
{
"appId": "111299001912",
"app_ type": 2,
"icon": " /opt/share/webap pservice /apps_ic on/FirstScreen/1 11299001 912/250x 250.png",
"is_loc k": 0,
"na me": "You Tube"
},
{
"appId": "3201601007625",
"app_type": 2,
"icon": "/opt/share/webappservice/ap ps_icon/FirstScreen/320160100762 5/250x250.png",
"is_lock": 0,
"name ": "Hulu"
},
{
"appId": "11101200001",
"app_type": 2,
"i con": "/opt/share/webappservice/apps_icon/FirstScreen/11101200001/250x250.png",
"is_lock": 0,
"name": "Netflix"
},
{
"appId": "3201512006785",
"app_type": 2,
"icon": "/opt/share/webappservi ce/apps_icon/FirstScreen/3201512 006785/250x250.p ng",
"is_lock": 0,
"name": "Prime Video"
},
{
"appId": " 3201710014981",
" app_type": 2,
"ico n": "/opt /share/w ebappservice/app s_icon/FirstScre en/3201710014981 /250x250 .png",
"i s_lock": 0,
"name": "Paramount+"
},
{
"appId": "3202006 020991",
"app_typ e": 2,
"icon": "/op t/share/ webappse rvice/apps_icon/ FirstScr een/3202 006020991/250x25 0.png",
" is_lock": 0,
"name": "Peacock TV"
},
{
"appId": "3201807016597",
"app_ty pe": 1,
"i con": "/opt/share /webapps ervice/a pps_icon/FirstSc reen/320 18070165 97/250x250.png",
"is_lock ": 0,
"nam e": "Apple TV"
},
{
"appId": "3201601 007230",
"app_typ e": 2,
"ic on": "/op t/share/webappse rvice/ap ps_icon/ FirstScreen/3201 60100723 0/250x25 0.png",
"is_lock": 0,
"name ": "HBO M ax"
},
{
"appId": "3 20171001 5067",
"a pp_type": 1,
"icon ": "/opt/ share/we bappservice/apps _icon/Fi rstScree n/3201710015067/ 250x250. png",
"is _lock": 0,
"name": "Univers al Guide "
},
{
"appId": "320 17100150 16",
"app _type": 1,
"icon": "/opt/sh are/weba ppservice/apps_i con/Firs tScreen/ 3201710015016/25 0x250.pn g",
"is_l ock": 0,
"name": "S martThin gs"
},
{
"appId": "320191101 9625",
"app_type": 2,
"icon": "/opt/ share/we bappserv ice/apps_icon/Fi rstScree n/320191 1019625/250x250. png",
"is _lock": 0,
"name": "FOX Spo rts"
},
{
" app...

2023

Question: I noticed this in the latest release notes. This is awesome.

Did the obvious stuff in the app to try and figure out how to switch to this volume style but couldn't find it. I checked the device settings, activity settings, and activity design.

Any help?

Staff response: Device -> Advanced Settings

Force Update Code Sets as usual.

You must be using the wrong codeset. We didn't delete any ancient code sets. Denon/Marantz in the modern era uses the one that supports this. If you're using something ancient that won't work.

I didn't say your model was ancient, I said your selection of codeset was. Add fresh.

There are at least 4 ways to control Denon receivers. They each have different reasons to use them. One reason to use them was to avoid the need for Relay Commands. Anyway, over the years whether you chose it or the app chose it, it's not unlikely you ended up with what for many years has not been considered a primary way of controlling Denon. Rather than break everyone's config, we just let those ride. But if you want to use new features like this, it will need the modern codeset, and now there is only one.

Try again actually. It's possible some of the public code sets were not yet updated.

2023

I must be missing something, but how does the new command that you added in v7.3 "Send Notification" work?

Thanks,

Just add the command. Make sure "Enable Intercomm" is turned on.

Note that if you are currently running the specific instance of the app from which a notification is sent, you obviously won't see anything as is always the case with notifications.

Then what use is the command? There is no guidance on this command anywhere.

That's like saying Apple should provide instructions to every app developer on what products to develop on their platform. It's up to you. There are countless things you can do with the full-blown notification system.

* When my Lutron shades go down 50% via a Roomie Automation at 3pm, all parties and devices receive a notification.
* Same at 5pm when they close to 0%.
* I tie Roomie into my alarm system and thus receive notifications based on that as well.

The list is really endless, whatever you want to get a notification about. It may be based on an Automation, it might just be a notification that the Playroom TV has been Activated (eg. the kids are watching TV). Usually something like this happens on your Primary Controller because it's part of an Automation, so obviously there's no conflict with your iPhone.

Yet another thing we can do but HomeKit cannot.

Not the OP, but helpful answer. More of this kind of "feature intent" content would be appreciated.

Thanks for the feedback the intent sounds great. The problem is the words I put in as a notification don’t end up anywhere. I don’t actually see a notification. This is the guidance I’m speaking of - the nitty gritty detail 😀

That's not a forum topic, you're just asking for diagnosis. Essentially that is going to be what's already covered in this thread's post 2, but needs the tools of support to diagnose.

2022

Love the new updates so far. I have a question on the clock. Is there a way to hide it in settings? My iPad for Roomie is in landscape mode and I have to scroll down every time now because the clock takes up space at the top and my buttons on the bottom row are hidden from view.

Sifted through settings several times and did not see any way to disable it.

Thanks
[image]

Yes can we have an option ? Thanks

This is in 8.0.3. See the Rooms panel.

This is outstanding. Thank you

2022

Hello all. Setting up a new house with an Integra DRX-3.4 receiver. Control of it and it’s volume is working, but Roomie shows the volume at 100% when the unit is actually at 50% on the OSD. Is it a configuration issue? In the receiver menu, I have no max volume set, only a static turn on volume level. Has anyone encountered this before?

Manually override the Model field in the Device panel to be something that starts with "DRX-4" or 5 or 7 and that should fix the visual issue.

Will, I assume you mean in the device portion of Roomie, under advanced options. I did change to DRX-3.4 as the model within the device menu. Still did not work, the Roomie app hits volume 100 and will not continue to adjust the receiver volume up, even though it’s only half way on the unit. Very odd.

... Please read my message. "3.4" is neither "4" nor "5" nor "7".

Voilà……worked as designed, Will. Thank you.

2022

Is the intercom functionality (either in the Roomie Remote app or the Intercomm app) simply preprogrammed to auto-answer only if the app is opened on someone's device, or is there a way to force it to auto-answer even if the app is closed on the device?

I was hoping to use this on my kids' devices but didn't want to have them open the app first or accept the incoming intercom connection if at all possible. In other words, forced auto-answer would be preferred even if the app isn't currently opened.

Staff response: We can't force an app to the foreground on iOS. So either you leave the app in the foreground, decide you don't need auto-answer, or use Sonos as a target and decide you don't need 2 way.

In general the best solutions to this are (1) use a dedicated device locked into Guided Access mode on a charger -- Roomie or Intercomm are thus always foreground. I personally use this solution – the current iPhone SE 3 or iPad mini 6 are excellent choices here. (2) use a Sonos speaker as the target -- the downside there being it's 1 way. I use this for rooms that are less important like a Guest Room or common rooms.

2022

Question: So, in the last month or so I have been unable to swipe within the YouTube TV app on an Apple TV. Worked fine for several months with no issue. Nothing has changed other that iOS updates and I can’t recall if the issue lined up with a release of an update or not.

In the configuration I have an Apple TV 4K 2021 version, a Samsung Q900A, and an Integra DRX-3.4 receiver. Swiping within the Roomie app works fine from anywhere else. I have closed all the apps and restarted the Apple TV but th...

Staff response: That issue existed with YouTube in beta and we fixed it in a generalized way. Maybe it exists still in YouTube TV, not sure we don't use that. Try the AppleTV Companion control method.

The two control methods are both perfectly valid. They have different features. For instance, the Companion method allows explicit app launching and obviously in your case fixes some navigation issue with YouTube TV. Meanwhile, the Airplay method has more feedback and numerous other differences like support for voice commands. Use whichever works for you – using both is perfectly fine as well such as launching an app with one and controlling with the other.

See the thread above your message which covers exactly that.

When you add device, you see two selections for modern Apple TVs. One says Airplay, one says Companion. They're totally different.

2022

Question: Hello,

I purchased an Unlimited Perpetual license a few years ago and all was great with sharing to the other 3 ipads in the house.

Now Roomie is asking for a subscription on the other ipads and not allowing sharing of the purchase.

Is this correct with the new licence or am I doing something wrong ?

Kind Regards

Jason

Staff response: First, you may see a change in this behavior as soon as today as we have been activating the Apple side of Family Sharing more widely as part of upgrading each legacy subscription. Rather than deprecate the V6 subscriptions (Unlimited Perpetual started is from that era, though is not a subscription), we're increasing their features, adding Family Sharing, and matching their pricing to the modern subscriptions from V7 all of which already support Family Sharing. (Note that Family Sharing didn't exist when the original subscriptions were created.) This transition will occur over the course of several months. Unlimited Pro Subscription (V6) is already upgraded so is now exactly the same as such a subscription from V7. Unlimited Perpetual was just upgraded. (Note pricing of Unlimited Perpetual is currently unchanged, but will be going up soon.)

Over the years, we've built multiple ways to extend subscriptions to Family or Guests outside the Apple system, but in general it's very preferable to use the Apple system as it makes more sense to users and is easier for them to manage.

The one remaining exception in the current version that goes outside Family Sharing now is called Guest Sharing. This feature was implemented in a completely different way in V7 than V8. Unlimited Perpetual and Unlimited Pro Subscription support Guest Sharing. In preparation for a major upcoming new feature that will allow instant sharing of homes in the Unlimited levels without the heavyweight Sharing required today, the new V8 Guest Sharing is based entirely off your local network.

Guest Sharing candidates must be on the local network. Your Primary Controller must be configured as documented in the Setup Guide (on charger, in foreground (or simply not sleeping on macOS), [optional: Guided Access active, Ethernet connected]), and that Primary Controller device must be logged in using the the sub/perpetual owner Apple ID. A few seconds after opening the app, any Roomie home shared via the Sharing button in the Homes panel and activated to the same home as the Primary Controller on the same network will operate in Unlimited mode for that home. Note that client must remain in contact with said Primary Controller in order to maintain said access.

If you have a non-perpetual subscription, that is managed in Apple's Settings app.

Perpetual is still for sale and there is no plan to change that, though as I mentioned the price is going up soon.

Number 3 is what was covered in my previous post. If you own any Unlimited, subscription or not, your proposed scenario will work fine in the context of what I said above.

2022

Community reply: What is the usage to use the .APPLICATION LAUNCH configuration button? I would like to create a button to launch PLEX / YouTube / Netflix. When I attempt to create a button, my Sony TV flashes green when i push the button I created. Any other pre configured command works fine. For YouTube I tried entering com.google.android.youtube.tv but again, my tv just flashes green so I am thinking I am missing come quotes or something. Can someone please post the characters needed for this option? Thanks

Depends on your model. Assuming the BRAVIA/XBR Pro Models IP codeset, you need the URI of the app. You can grab that from the pinch to zoom diagnostics. No special quotes, just paste the URI of the app you want into the .APPLICATION LAUNCH command copied from the result of the .CHANNELS STATUS command you see in the diagnostic log after opening the Media Guide for that model.

If you are on an old or low end model that does not use the Pro codeset, you'll need to use DIAL which is hit or miss, you can find old messages on that topic in the forum archives.

Community reply: I retrieved the application list, but using this data, I am still unable to launch apps using the URI as directed.

{
"title": "YouTube",
"uri": "com.sony.dtv.com.google.android.youtube.tv.com.google.android.apps.youtube.tv.activity.ShellActivity",
"icon": "http://192.168.1.248/DIAL/icon/com.sony.dtv.com.google.android.youtube.tv.com.google.android.apps.youtube.tv.activity.ShellActivity.png"
},
{
"title": "Netflix",
"uri": "com.sony.dtv.com.netflix.ninja.com.netflix.ninja.MainActivity",
"icon": "http://192.168.1.248/DIAL/icon/com.sony.dtv.com.netflix.ninja.com.netflix.ninja.MainActivity.png"
},
{
"title": "Plex",
"uri": "com.sony.dtv.com.plexapp.android.com.plexapp.plex.activities.SplashActivity",
"icon": "http://192.168.1.248/DIAL/icon/com.sony.dtv.com.plexapp.android.com.plexapp.plex.activities.SplashActivity.png"
}

So just go see what you're doing wrong. That list of apps is what gets displayed in the Media Guide. So you can watch not only the apps list get retrieved, but then also see exactly what command is sent when you launch a channel from that media guide, and then compare it to what you sent. Most likely it's something like you accidentally included quotes.

Community reply: Thanks Will,

Got it figured out! I entered the following to launch each app in the .APPLICATION LAUNCH command.

com.sony.dtv.com.google.android.youtube.tv.com.google.android.apps.youtube.tv.activity.ShellActivity

com.sony.dtv.com.netflix.ninja.com.netflix.ninja.MainActivity

com.sony.dtv.com.plexapp.android.com.plexapp.plex.activities.SplashActivity

2021

@antonio.falconi (#1):
Im trying to use siri shortcuts to control my devices.
The shortcut works great on the app itself but if i use the homepod to execute it siri says is taking too long and does nothing.

I’m having the same issues…

This is a complex area that is 100% on the Apple side because developers are not allowed to run code on the HomePod, so all of that cross-execution is Apple Magic or lack thereof as the case may be. I'm somewhat optimistic I've seen/heard of this working though, at some point in the past. The HomePod needs to be able to find an applicable iPhone capable of running a Roomie Shortcut, and specifically that shortcut you reference.

In any case, this is the forum. We don't track anything in here. Much more likely we'd look at this or provide some tips on next steps for you to try anyway via support.

I did end up giving this a try just now and it's working fine. Basically, an iOS device capable of running the Shortcut needs to be found by the HomePod. Here is Apple's basic text on the topic:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209055

See bottom of that "Want to run shortcuts across every iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple Watch, or HomePod you own? Just sign into iCloud with the same Apple ID on each device."

I can confirm this works. If the iphone or ipad is close then it will be run on that, confirmed by a push notification by the home app.

2021

I have 5 IOS devices with 3 of them stuck on iOS version 12.5 (older iPhone 6's), using Roomie 6.2. The other 2 are on iOS 14.8 and Roomie 7.02. My primary controller is running 6.2. The newer IOS devices are able to communicate fine with the controller running 6.2. We need to have access to 5 devices since we have roomie for the most part in each room around the house. It is expensive to update the last 3 phones so they can operate on iOS 14 or greater and on your 7.02. My question is can we update the primary controller to 7.02 and then can we still access and sync the older phones still running 6.2, and gradually update as the wallet allows?

Staff response: No mixing and matching of versions whatsoever is supported as documented, and could definitely lead to problems.

As you may have noticed, certainly there are cases where it works.

But officially, this is why we publish the clear update timeline. Every year moves 1 iOS version forward. This Fall with V7 that was iOS 14.5 minimum. Next Fall it will be iOS 15.X minimum. So the progression is predictable and you can time upgrades to that.

As we've noted many times, the best conclusion to make from that is always acquire devices with the most recent CPU possible. Apple periodically introduces devices that are abnormally up to date in terms of their CPU. The iPad Mini 6 is the most recent excellent example where the A15 CPU is more up to date than even its sister iPads and iPhones and is thus an excellent choice. Basically, you want to ensure the maximum number of years before Apple removes it from the supported iOS devices which is almost entirely determined by which AXX CPU you get. Right now, look for devices with an A15 or at minimum A14 to give you the longest runway.

2021

I see that in the v6.7 iOS app download page, Trinnov “feedback support” is now included with v6.7 of Roomie. Where can we find more info on this (I’ve checked the compatibility guide, the manual, this forum, etc)?

At this point, I have no issues controlling the Trinnov via Roomie (through port 44100), but I’d love to be able to read the volume, etc.

Staff response: You will need a codeset update if you added it before. Try the Force Code Set Update button in Settings and then wait a minute and restart everything. Otherwise just install the app fresh on a device to hard force code set updates.

That worked great, thank you so much for the help!

And I was able to “reset” the design of the device to get it to reflect the changes within the Activity.

Are there plans to include more feedback than the volume?

Regardless, this is a huge win for me! So happy I can see the volume. Now, it Plex wild get their act together and update their api for complete media control, I’d be very happy.

2021

First week user and a till learning the app; question on Wi-Fi SSID field in the Home configuration screen.

Is that just for warnings about what ssid you are on? Or does it serve other functional components? Could you leave it blank during or even after set up? I’m assuming yes since most of my devices are not even on WiFi or k or about.

My specific example: 2 vlans - 1 main / 1 Iot. All devices to be controlled and an Apple TV to be utilized as my primary controller live in iot vlan. My phone is in main vlan. Assuming this not an issue?

Thanks!!

Staff response: It's just to warn you when you're not on your home Wi-Fi and thus many things may not work. If you leave it blank, you will not see such warnings. Whether control works regardless is of course something that one could imagine working with extensive and advanced network setup on your part.

2021

Is there a way to flip the PlayPad and DPad on a custom added IR controlled Set Top Box? For our set top boxes we use the dpad functions more and have to scroll down on the iPhone.

Staff response: Delete the PlayPad. Add a Custom Module after the DPad which is the same as the PlayPad.

Perfect. Thanks Will!

2021

Does anyone have the Apple TV App launch code for WebOS?

I can see Will has previously responded with a method to fetch them via the media guide, but I don't have access to the Beta.

Staff response: The code has been in the codeset for a month or two. You may need to Force Code Set Updates to see it.

Indeed, using Force Code Set Updates added.

Thanks Will

2021

I am setting up a room with 2 Samsung TVs fed with Apple TVs what is the best way setup multiple TVs/Apple TVs in the same Room or do I need to great 2 separate Roomie Rooms?

You can setup each Apple TV as its own activity within the same room. I have five ATV activities in the same room and it works well.

2021

Question: I'm new to Roomie Remote and love it. In the past, I've used a Pronto and iRule to control my Home Theater system. I recently purchased a Samsung QN55 Smart TV and am having difficulties getting it to switch to specific inputs.

I'm able to power on the TV via the "Wake on Lan" function. Under "Expert Settings" I'm able to control the volume with Roomie, so I know the app is talking with the TV.

The TV is connected to a TiVo, Roku, and Kodi Media PC (HDMI1,HDMI2, & HDMI3 respectively).

Fr...

Staff response: QN55 is not a complete model number so I can't be sure what you have. But at a high level, Samsung definitively differentiates control features across their lines and model years. Not providing explicit input selection certainly was one such thing observed in past years. For many model years, most models of Samsung do now support direct input selection via IP control.

As an aside, we do also support control of Samsung TVs via our Smartthings integration. You can therefore possibly use the same technique that worked for you from within Roomie. There are numerous ways to control Samsung TVs depending on the year/model/etc. Serial is a very good one if your model supports it.

Depending on the full model, one thing we often see is feature stripping at the low end of the market. Samsung commonly strips useful control features from units sold at CostCo for instance.

The SmartThings support was re-implemented in the new 8.5 release. There is now a .INPUT SET command that can be used for Samsung TVs. Make sure your Samsung TV is already setup properly within the SmartThings app and then setup SmartThings in Roomie. You should then be able to use that .INPUT SET command to change inputs. The HDMI inputs are named "HDMI2", etc. It remains random to me why some Samsung TVs can change inputs using the normal control protocol and some cannot. I have a 2023 Frame model here that works just fine, but for a few years as per this thread, some random models get released that don't change inputs. Now our new SmartThings support should work well for such cases. You could also use that for power control. Send the .SWITCH OFF command to the TV to power it off for example.

The 6 series models are the low end models – in the M series year, that is the number after "MU". If you can't change the input from the SmartThings app, it's very likely discrete input change commands will not work for us either. In that scenario, you best bet (other than getting a better TV) is to cycle input changes effectively hitting the input button a certain number of times. I haven't seen them do that on recent model years. Even a very cheap 32" Frame TV from 2023 has input changes working. But back in 2017, they had only just adopted generalized IP control in 2016 so the low end models often got feature stripped.

ST does not provide explicit input selection

First, you said the ST app did not work, quote above.

same operations in ST works

Then you imply it might work in the ST app. Not sure what you are saying therefore. Regardless, I can't see anything about your config and this is now essentially a support question so can only be handled there (or by you looking at your diagnostic).

* It is possible or even probable that discrete input selection does not work via IP since I cannot find that option in SmartThings control for th...

2021

Question: I’ve been using one of my iPad as the primary controller. I have 3 others that have the Roomie app on them but only 1 is dedicated, their other 2 our iPads I use for work and other apps, so I only pull up Roomie when needed. The iPad I use as the primary is in the theater, so it is usually undisturbed. I have it sitting on a charger stand (it’s an iPad Pro with the charging port on one side). Sometimes the cleaning ladies move it enough that it stops charging and within a day the iPad is dead. T...

Staff response: That's what the tvOS version of the product is for mainly – it's also nice to use the AppleTV as a viewer for your video cameras at the same time. I set it up inside a matrix so the ATV is always viewing cameras and you can tune any TV to that. Anyway, yes ATV can be a primary and likely the new 2021 model with A12 does eliminate some of the slowness associated with that path using the old A10.

For the moment, I still recommend the "living room iPad as Primary" because I think that fits the largest number of people and starts them in the right mindset, but economically and functionally there is every reason to argue that the A12 ATV is a better choice. For one thing, it comes with Ethernet so you don't need to get a USB adapter and an Ethernet USB adapter and then carefully keep an eye on it to make sure Wi-Fi and/or Bluetooth don't turn back on as they seem to do sometimes during maintenance cycles after taking an iPad out of GA mode and power cycling the USB Ethernet adapter.

However ATV still has its crucial downside that it just randomly deletes everything whenever it feels like it. In general, that shouldn't happen if you stay in Single App Mode and don't restart. But it's something to keep an eye on. In general, we have a medium term plan to have an option to delete everything ourselves on every launch, do a full iCloud sync each time like a new install (just for the tvOS edition), and that may provide a cleaner path going forward. It's basically been "is Apple going to fix this nonsense or do we need to work around it with a time consuming download every launch". Anyway, in general that issue is pretty mitigated right now, but holding the device in stasis, trying to avoid exits and relaunches, using Single App Mode, those are going to be the ways to try to lock it down and avoid the dreaded AppleTV storage purges. At this point the reality is that the Primary has so few duties that it rarely matters. As long as it can relay commands, it's good to go.

2021

Anyone come across and solve HDMI handshake issues in displaying RTSP camera feeds on Apple TV (tvOS)?

I’m currently running five RTSP camera feeds successfully (three rebranded Dahua, one EZVIZ [rebranded Hikvision], and one Doorbird) across multiple iOS devices within Roomie v6. I have two Apple TVs (one 4K model, and one fourth generation 1080p) hooked up to different TVs. When displaying Cameras on either Apple TV, all feeds appear in “greenscale.” Pictures below.

After trying multiple displays and removing any equipment between Apple TV>Display, and given that the video feeds do in fact make it through to the display devices and render correctly on iOS, I am assuming this must be a handshake problem based on what Roomie is outputting and what the Display expects the AppleTV to output. I unfortunately haven’t been able to find a TV/Monitor setting to adjust that corrects the issue.

For the avoidance of doubt, there are no issues with video quality/color rendering when displaying other media, whether through the AppleTVs or through other means (eg. webOS, Antenna), and all all feeds work across brands when viewed within Roomie in iOS (iPhones, iPad mini 2, original iPad Pro 9.7).

Can’t imagine this is a Roomie bug given the lack of previous forum posts with camera difficulties, but at a bit of a loss as to what else to try for troubleshooting. Would ideally be able to dedicate an AppleTV to be a constant camera feed source across distributed video, but need to get the direct hookup working before I can try and add complexity.

Staff response: Restart the tvOS box. If it continues, turn off Hardware Decoding in the Advanced settings of the camera.

Awesome, thanks - disabling hardware decoding fixed it.

Disabling it, however, also scrambles one of the feeds - clear picture (albeit green) with it enabled, and scrambled (with proper coloring) when disabled. The issue seems isolated to the only varifocal camera of the bunch, and the only one with a rotated image, so will have to play a bit to solve.

In any case, it persists across tvOS and iOS, so unrelated to a handshake issue (topic subject).

2020

Anybody have a working Disney+ custom image? I can’t seem to get it to work.

Staff response: It's in 6.1 if you don't create your own before then.

2020

I am planning to use roomie remote to provide home automation for quite a few of my customers. In most cases the devices and programs are completely different so it involves adding the devices and then creating the whole configuration. What is the most convenient way to achieve this by ideally creating the basic program on my own device and copying it over, without having to work on a clients device all the time?

There is another project which we are doing where the exact same number of devices will be used multiple times. So i want to be able to create one configuration and then replicate it repeatedly on many other devices. How would this be most easily achieved?

2020

Question: I want to bring this to anyone's attention to those who use an nVidia shield with Plex. I was having an issue where the now playing information wouldn't show at the top of the activity and the play button wouldn't work. It appears after a plex upgrade for nVidia shield it set the enable new video player to ON. If you go to your plex settings and advanced to the right will be enable new video player. If this is set to ON you will not get media status playback information at the top of your ac...

Staff response: Based on Plex's forums, the new player is currently a disaster. So you probably just want to turn it off. It seems unclear whether Plex will ever be fixing their control mechanisms as they remove such features from their own app, and the related features remaining in their app do not work with their new player (such as playing content to Plex Shield from their app which currently plays into an invisible window!)

If you need to leave it on for some reason, switch your control to use the nVidia Shield device for now which obviously continues to work fine. You will miss some feedback that way, but control will work. If they leave it broken, we may try to blend some feedback into the Shield device one day. But for now, given they provide the option to turn it off, and given that it seems deeply broken in many ways, using it seems misguided.

2020

Question: Hi,

I’m having some issues sharing my home configuration with a second IOS device in the household. I’ve had this working, so don’t understand why it’s stopped.

I’m running V6 of Roomie and have a subscription for 24 devices on my iPad, which should enable me to share one home.

I’ve shared the app through Family Sharing so my partner can install the app on her iPhone. I’ve then shared the home configuration via an email, which I can see under Homes on my partners iPhone, but that’s as far a...

Staff response: Since we get this from time to time in support, here is the resolution.

You say you can't restore. 100% of that is caused by your iCloud Drive configuration, basically the file of your backup cannot be found. Make sure you have a "Roomie Remote" folder at the top of your iCloud Drive. Do not create that folder yourself. Make a fake backup from the app as one way to force-create that. Then put your "RoomieBackup.zip" file at the top level and delete anything else in the folder.

Once you get restore working, everything else should fall into place. We have a detailed full reset procedure for some edge cases. Don't go through this unless you really feel something is wrong with your config/cloud and you have already restored and tried every other resolution. Here is that procedure which is rock solid and has worked for 100% of the cases of this for months.

On the main device associated with the Apple ID that owns the subscription:

1. Ensure you have a backup of your configuration, the file named RoomieBackup.zip, and move it out of your iCloud Drive.

2. Go to the iOS Settings app, tap the top item for your iCloud account, tap “iCloud”, tap “Manage Storage”, scroll down to any items labelled “Simple Control” or “Roomie Remote”, tap them and then tap “Delete Documents & Data”. Also perform this step on the iCloud account on devices to which you plan to share.

3. Delete all Simple Control or Roomie Remote apps from your iOS device(s) as well as any iOS devices to which you plan to share. Make sure this is complete including any older apps.

4. Install Roomie Remote V6.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1455871956?mt=8

5. Make a fake backup just to ensure the Roomie Remote directory exists in your iCloud Drive. Then delete everything in that directory.

6. Restore your backup from step 1 via Restore from iCloud Drive (move RoomieBackup.zip back to the top level of the empty Roomie Remote folder). Make sure never to create the iCloud Drive directories manually.

[If your subscription was started in Simple Control V5, at this point install Simple Control V5 on your owning device as well. Run it and Restore Purchases. Nothing else needs to be done in that app. Make sure to turn off Background App Refresh for it in Apple’s Settings app.]

7. Use the Restore Purchases button (in V6) after your configuration has been restored.

8. Assuming everything is now working, install V6 on any additional device of the same Apple ID, launch it, and allow 1 minute to synchronize with the app open in the foreground.

9. Assuming everything is now working, install V6 on any devices that use a different Apple ID, launch it, and then return to the owning Apple ID's device and then share the home from the Homes panel in Roomie to the Apple ID of the secondary device. We recommend using iMessage for this step.

10. Accept the share on the secondary device and return to Roomie Remote on that device. The home should populate. If not, check the Homes panel to make sure ...

2020

Question: I am an AV integrator and I have a client using a Lutron Homeworks QS keypad to turn their AV on/off and change sources (the purpose of the Lutron keypad is to trigger AV events). The keypad is linked to Simple Control v5.x with an Apple TV in Single App Mode running as a Simple Hub.

Will the keypad continue to work after an upgrade to Roomie Remote v6? When the Apple TV Simple Hub goes away, how will Roomie Remote be listening for triggers from the Lutron Keypad? Would you recommend running Ro...

Staff response: V6 is also now available on Apple TV. So your setup would simply be identical to what it was before. For now a Mac Mini is definitely not a better choice than the Apple TV because macOS still doesn't support HomeKit (Home app notwithstanding).

What’s an example of needing HomeKit? Would asking Siri on your iPhone to activate a Roomie function work on MacOS?

If it appears in the Home app, you need HomeKit to control it. With the exception of TVs and speakers. Apple fakes out HomeKit by adding supported TVs and Speakers to the Home app even though they are not real HomeKit accessories. So if you don't use HomeKit, macOS may be an option, but I still don't recommend it as the first choice. The best platform for the Primary Controller remains iOS in Guided Access mode on a charger with a USB Ethernet dongle – as documented.

What do you mean by "this" exactly? One topic in old thread above is whether a Mac Mini is a good Primary. That part is indeed no longer true because MacOS 11 now supports HomeKit.

However, the best Primary remains and has always been a modern iPad in Guided Access on a charger. Mac Mini or AppleTV 4K work fine as well. AppleTV 4K these days has a pretty weak CPU so it would be last on the list of all devices.

2020

Just started using the beta, build 1910. A little late getting started. I'm having an issue of settings not staying set. Example: setting Incoming Call Pauses to on doesn't stay set to on. Next time I visit settings it is off. This is happening on all my devices, an iPhone and 2 iPads so far.

In the Homes settings it shows my name, Peter Pappas instead of the home name, in my case it should be Pappas House. Is this normal? Is it okay to correct the name?

Under Primary Controller, besides Default, 2 of my three devices are listed. The iPad that I actually want to use as the Primary Controller is not listed. It is a wall mounted iPad that is always on and is my Dedicated RR Device. What am I missing here?

Finally, I made some minor changes to one of my devices, a surveillance camera. These changes did not propagate to the other devices running RR. I never had propagation issues with V5.7.7 which used the now forgotten Simple Hub. Is anybody having issues using multiple devices?

Staff response: Just started using the beta, build 1910. A little late getting started. I’m having an issue of settings not staying set. Example: setting Incoming Call Pauses to on doesn’t stay set to on. Next time I visit settings it is off. This is happening on all my devices, an iPhone and 2 iPads so far.

That setting works for me, and the way it is implemented doesn't lead to me to see any way it could fail. Will need more data.

In the Homes settings it shows my name, Peter Pappas instead of the home name, in my case it should be Pappas House. Is this normal? Is it okay to correct the name?

Of course? Please don't ask such things here. This is a forum. Forums are best at prognosticating. If you need analysis, go to support. You try things first in beta. Be ready to get your hands dirty.

Under Primary Controller, besides Default, 2 of my three devices are listed. The iPad that I actually want to use as the Primary Controller is not listed. It is a wall mounted iPad that is always on and is my Dedicated RR Device. What am I missing here?

It needs to be on the config and have run RR to be listed.

Finally, I made some minor changes to one of my devices, a surveillance camera. These changes did not propagate to the other devices running RR. I never had propagation issues with V5.7.7 which used the now forgotten Simple Hub. Is anybody having issues using multiple devices?

Figure out when it works for you and when it doesn't so you can note that it seems to fail in this case or specifically for this setting for instance.

2019

Question: Hi,
In SC I have a relay controller setup for opening and closing my garage door.
I would like to create a shortcut within the iOS Shortcuts app that will open my door and do a few other things. But, right now all I see in the shortcuts app that's related to SC is to Start and Stop rooms. How do I make the relay appear thru SC in the shortcuts app?

Staff response: The Shortcuts app is not really tied into the whole Siri Shortcuts system. It looks like it's tied into super common things, but actually it was a third-party app Apple acquired not long before they introduced Siri Shortcuts, so there was nowhere near enough time for them to integrate it correctly. Anyway, basically I would call getting things into the Shortcuts app luck-based. You need to get something cached into Siri so that it will be a recommendation. There is no explicit lookup.

Yes, using it. But the factors involved in how Siri prioritizes those are a mystery.

There are a lot of new Shortcuts related features in V6. Still waiting on Apple as usual every September.

I use this multiple times a day with an NFC tag on the dining table and it works great for me. If that activity isn't running, most likely you have a setup problem with your Primary Controller.

There is an explicit "Set Room to X" intent in the next release.

I forgot to add something to the 8.6.2 release notes, so noting it here and then I'l add it for 8.6.3, but this is active right now.

The Set Room shortcut now works much better basically. You can do the following and expect it to be as reliable as NFC (which I wish was more reliable). I have found these to be usable enough that my house is now filled with NFC tags.

If it’s an IR device I could imagine an issue here, but everything else is pretty much treated equally. However I would note every aspect of Shortcuts/Siri support was rewritten and fully updated for Roomie 9. I believe existing Shortcuts should continue to work in most cases but even this kind of thing would be going down completely different code paths. Anyway there will be a beta at some point.

2019

I have been using the SmartHome skill somewhat successfully but have a couple of issues I haven't been able to resolve. I would appreciate any suggestions for debugging.

- I have an activity named "Watch DirecTV" in the room "Living Room". One of the commands is a "power on" command for the DirecTV receiver. The activity works fine from the phone app, but when run from an Alexa voice command the DirecTV receiver always fails to power on, while all the other commands work as expected. A "Power-Off" voice command for the Living Room does successfully power off the DirecTV receiver so it's not a question of the Hub being unable to control the DirecTV receiver. Why would the Hub fail to successfully execute this command?

- When I have Alexa discover devices, it fails to discover the "Watch DirecTV in the Living Room" command. I have to use "Tell Simple Control to Watch DirecTV in the Living Room". A similar activity "Watch Amazon in the Living Room" does work for my FireTV. Why would the SmartHome skill ignore the DirecTV activity?

In general, I'm very happy with the SmartHome integration but can't quite get everything to work.

Bret

As is the case with many thread-starting posts here, this is much better posed to actual support people than to a user forum. I'm not sure how anyone in the forum would know the answer to this because the answer would require looking at a diagnostic of what is actually going on and what you have actually configured. At best someone would make an educated guess without such information.

One of the things that does seem likely from your post is that you're having decode issues with the word "DirecTV" and Alexa. It's a confusing word for Alexa that must be perfectly enunciated for it to be understood. I suggest thinking of saying "Direct Tee Vee" instead of "directv" as that seems pretty reliable.

Thanks for the response Will. The DirecTV word does work for other rooms and I have tried other words in the Living Room without success. I have opened a support ticket for the hub issue.

With a suggestion from SC Support I was able to resolve my issue of the Hub being unable to power on my DirecTV box. There is a setting in the DirecTV box under Whole House settings where it's necessary to open up permissions for External Devices. There were several categories and it wasn't very intuitive, but the hub worked after I opened them all up. It's not clear to me why the hub commands are treated differently from phone app commands bu that seems to be the case.

I found the best way to sort naming problems is to use the Alexa app and create groups, even if the group has only 1 member.

I create a group called "TV" and I put the "Watch DirecTV" activity into it. Now the alexa commands can be "TV on" and "TV off"

This is the best way I've found of keeping names short and clear for Alexa without having to change them in Simple Control and then they are not what you want when you use the app on a phone or iPad.

2018

A complete iBeacon noob spent two hours trying to figure it out and it did work in the end.

Bought 3 dirt cheap Chinese iBeacon-compatible USB dongles so that I wouldn't have to worry about batteries. There's always a spare powered USB port in a any room. Two are plugged into Airport Extremes, one is plugged into an Apple charger, which I am sure all of us have plenty lying about.

Pack of three for US$20 delivered. Yes, that's about $7 apiece, made by EBEOO.
Best price 3 pcs BLE 4.0 Base Station Ebeoo iBeacon USB China Fashion Genuine
Yes, go for the China Fashion kind :slight_smile:

Fortunately, it complies with whatever standards there are (iBeacon) and you use a rather comprehensive-looking iOS utility named LightBlue developed by a third-party. It is rather technical and not very novice-friendly (hence the two hours).

So, you only really need two things to program it - your SC BeaconID = LB Beacon UUID, and the number for each room on the list in SC = LB iBeacon Major.

1. Your SimpleControl Beacon ID is found under Settings. Touch Copy Beacon ID to copy it to the clipboard
Now, you can't paste it directly into LightBlue because SimpleControl inserts dashes "-" into the hex code,
So, Copy Beacon ID, paste into Notes (or any text field on your iOS device, like your safari address bar), then remove the dashes, select the code, copy again.

2. Plug your Beacon into a powered USB port. Launch LightBlue. In the Lightblue explorer select your ebeoo-ХХХХХ beacon and look for BeaconUUID. Then Write Values and Paste your BeaconID from the Clipboard into the text box. Remember! - If you have any dashes/non-HEX symbols (0-9, A-F), you simply won't be able to paste it into the box.

3. Now go to Rooms in the Simplecontrol App and note the number of each room in the list as they are listed, for each room you will have an iBeacon for.
Now, peculiarly, the Simplecontrol FAQ says the numbers to be configured into the beacons are Simplecontrol room number + 1.
In this case it had to be exactly the same, and NOT plus one.
This number is your iBeacon Major value in the LightBlue app. So, touch iBeacon Major, Write Values, punch in the number.
This is where I encountered another time-wasting quirk. When you input your room number, make sure you precede the value with at leat two zeroes. So input 003 for 3, etc. Otherwise the accepted value ends up being 0301x or something like that, and God knows why. After you Write Values, doublecheck the result by pressing Read Values and make sure it reads 0003 in our example. Has to do with hex format input I guess.
Leave iBeacon Minor as is - I assigned the same values as iBeacon Major, and it works, but I doubt it matters.

That's it!

4. Now, you may want to rename your iBeacons so you could find them easier in the LightBlue app, especially if you have several. That would be under BT name.

5. Now install the beacons in your rooms and try walking around - give it up to ten seconds, but it will work. After all, in everyday use you don't go running around rooms expecting the current room to change instantaneously, but it is nice to open the SC into the room you're in.

6. SC provides a really useful feature under settings - Show Nearby Beacons - it will appear once your new iBeacons have been detected - it gives you a distance meter. Now, mine is in meters and it is WAAAY off. It is a measure of the Bluetooth signal strength, really. But, play with the threshold to eliminate range overlap from two beacons in, say, adjacent rooms. Set the threshold (meters/feet) so that in each room only the current room is in range, and the others are out of range (shown in red, or a question mark if it is too far).

So. I hope this saves you a bit of time AND quite a chunk of cash!

Cheers from Moscow!

Hello and congratulations for your guide, thanks to you I managed to make everything work!
I would like to set up some activities automatically with iBeacon. Example: if you enter the bedroom, only the lights in that room light up. Can I do it with SimpleControl app?

👋 bye bye from Italy !!

We had a feature like that a long time ago and took it out because it didn't work very well. The way iBeacons work was just not ideal for that kind of trigger.

The best way to do that now, and the way many users currently have that setup, is to use motion triggers. I recommend either a HomeKit motion detector setup as a Simple Control Trigger, or a SmartThings motion detector that uses the Simple Control integration to launch a Simple Control Activity. I use both and they're roughly equivalent with pretty high reliability. The HomeKit path is obviously cheaper and simpler.

Buongiorno!

Bluetooth in general is not the technology to use for ranging in apartments! It took me a lot of trial and error to get it to work more or less reliably. iBeacon ranges would overlap, resulting in the Bathroom menus appearing while you're in the Bedroom, and vice-versa. And the how many meters away measurements are pretty random, they can only be used in terms of iBeacon 1 is closer (or farther) than iBeacon 2. And the thresholds in SimpleControl are in absolute distances. It could work if there's no chance of overlapping transmissions, say, Room 1, long corridor, Room 2. But if two zones share a wall, no way.
Plus, these things change over time, so it's not like you can spend the evening fine-tuning it and have it working after that. By morning, it'll get messed up again. And again :slight_smile:

Thank you so much for your reply! I understand well what you wrote to me, I think I will abandon the idea of ​​mapping my apartment with iBeacon.
Maybe I'll just put a single iBeacon in for the automatic scene "I'm at home". Until now I tell Siri "Siri, i’m at home" and open the blinds, turn on the lights, turn off the alarm and much more ..
I could put another iBeacon in the bedroom that, when it came in, deactivates all the other lights because it's time to go to sleep.
I find your App very useful. I hope I can do great things!

2018

Staff response: See here:

Staff response: These have not changed and they don't vary between modern models. Here are a few from a current device:

com.webos.app.livetv
netflix
amazon
hulu
com.movenetworks.app.sling-tv-sling-production
channelplus.us
vudu
googleplaymovieswebos
com.dolby.lgapp
com.webos.app.browser

2018

hi all,

So I am just getting into this program and automation.

I cannot seem to understand how the macOS hub option actually works. I have seen the recommendation that using an iPad is the way to go but I do not have that at my disposal right now,

Every time I navigate away from the app, the activity disappears from the hub (again on macOS). Why is this? I do not want to keep the app active.

Am I not meeting something up right or is this just the way it is?

Staff response: It sounds like you're looking at the device status window on macOS? That screen can be safely ignored. The items mean "this device is online". It has no relevance whatsoever to your configuration, activities, or anything else.

amazing - thanks for the quick reply

2018

hello all, hope someone can answer me this question.

if i were to buy Leviton homekit ready switches, they would work perfectly with Simple Control but the question is: when i have every homekit light migrated to Simple Control, can the skill of amazon alexa control the lighting via Simple Control?????

someone please??

Simple control is how I manage my iHome HomeKit switches through Alexa. The iHome skill with Alexa is broken, but SC through Alexa works great. Also use it to control my HomeKit August smartlock via Alexa.

I bought the Leviton Decora homekit ready, works great with simple control the only thing is that it does not work with alexa and the other thing is that on the home bar it appears as a plug ifon instead of light icon is this normal?

2018

I have a whole-house audio system that we use pretty often. I currently stream music from Pandora, Amazon Prime Music, etc. from an iPad/iPhone to AirportExpress -> Denon AVR Zone 2 -> Aton DLA6 speaker zone controller. I control this from iRule on the iOS device and, since that solution is going away I’d like to move to SimpleControl. I’d also like to avoid the round trip wireless traffic (internet to iOS device, iOS device back to AirportExpress) by replacing the AirportExpress with an AppleTV.

So my question is: Can I control the Apple TV without needing to see the display output from the ATV? Can I use SC to 1. Turn on ATV, Select streaming app, and then control streaming app from SC?

I know that I can control the Denon AVR and the Aton DLA6, so the only thing that’s not obvious is the ATV control.

Forgive me if this is documented somewhere, and feel free to redirect me.

2018

Question: Hi,

I've recently purchased an Apple TV to use as a central hub. I've two questions that I'd appreciate your guidance on:

1. I know the Simple Control TV app needs to be running in the forground, but is it possible to configure the Apple TV to just run the app and to ideally boot to this app, in case there is a power cut etc?

2. I also have a HD Homerun device and have read that this can be integrated with the Simple Control TV app on the Apple TV, I can't however find how do do this in the u...

Staff response: 1. Yes, in tvOS 10.2, Apple introduced a new feature called "Single App Mode" to lock the device to a specific app.

2. Add the device normally. Make sure you set a provider for it and configure a guide as you would normally do. Open the Simple Home dashboard and tap the "Watch Live TV" button.

You turn it on in a config profile and deploy that to the device. It's easy, but not in the menus. You'll need to look it up for the details.

Sounds more like an Apple Support question. There are lots of ways to configure tvOS Profiles. Configurator is the most simple I would think.

2018

Question: Hi,

I've recently setup an Apple TV 4K as a Hub for a client. Whilst it's working well, I'm conscious that the Apple TV is not 'locked' to the Simple Control TV app and as such, if they have to reboot for any reason, there'll be a need to set this up again for them.

I know it's been mentioned in the past, but can you provide some guidance on how the Apple TV can be setup to only run the Simple Control app, I forget the correct name for this, but I'm sure you'll understand what I mean.

Best ...

Staff response: Single App Mode. Introduced in tvOS 10.2.

This is a standard Apple feature. If using it bricks your device, that would be a big problem for them, so whatever you read is probably nonsense. In any case, a quick Google produced many hits, using profiles is pretty straightforward and standard.

2018

Not sure if I can make this interesting, but here goes...

I have two devices that power-toggle using IR. An LG Screen and a BT YouView PVR.
To get consistency in v4.5, I created activities called On and Off (who knew?), that did the toggling, and then had separate Activites for what ever I wanted to do (ie Watch TV, Apple TV, DVD, Spotify).

I think that I'd like to use the Power Button in v5 but can't see how to configure it.
I'm also confused about the Power On/Power Off selection in an Activity. Not sure if that's what I should be using.

Sorry if the answer is obvious, but I can't see how I should approach this.

Stuart

Stuart, assuming I understand your question, to understand what the Power On/Power Off selection in an activity does you need to go back to how a device is set up.

Within the device settings there is a toggle to 'Always Turn This On'. With this enabled in a specific devices settings, any activities created in the room the device is linked to, with Automatic Commands turned on and Activity Type set as Power On, will automatically include a command to power on that device. Conversely any activity with Automatic Commands turned on and Activity Type set as Power Off will automatically add a command to power off that device. Essentially it saves the effort of having to create some of the commands in your activities.

With regards to the power button in v5 (either the 'Power Off Activity' option in the drop down at the top of an activity panel or the power button on the chosen room screen), unless I am missing something, there is currently no way to configure it, well not like you could configure a power off activity in previous versions of the app. Using either of these two options will simply power off any devices linked to that room that have the toggle switched on for 'Always Turn This On' within the devices settings.

Apologies if I've mis-understood and you already know this.

Martin.

Not only is there a way to configure the power off, but there are 2.

* Long press on the button top right of the Activity screen will go to Edit mode on it.
* Accessing the Rooms editor and tapping the Edit pencil icon next to the Power Off menu will also edit it.

Aha so I was missing something....should have known. Still got a bit to learn with the new version.

So Stuart could manually add the power toggle command for both IR controlled devices to the power off activity, but would need to ensure that both devices were on (via the various activities) at the time of pressing power off....so much easier with a power on/off command available for the device :wink:

Or just use Track Power State and don't worry about it...

So much history. I gave up with Track Power State on the IR devices a year ago. Thanks for the nudge. Will think it through.

Ps Why not have slide left on the power button. That’s what I tried to do and it would be consistent.

2017

Hi all,

new customer and board member so apologies if this has been discussed previously. I have my Matrix, Apple TV, Fire TV and 2 Yamaha Receivers all in a central dedicated room for this purpose. A single Apple TV unit can be viewed in 4 different rooms and likewise the Fire TV with the matrix switching between rooms.

What I noticed is when creating my Rooms, I had to add the Apple TV for example, 3 times (1 per room) and this counted as 3 devices from my Simple Service device subscription. Is this correct?
So a Matrix switcher with 4 outputs and 4 sources would consume 16 licenses for the source devices & 1 for the Matrix itself instead of 5 device licenses. I would have thought a device license was based on a physical device....

Or is their a different way to setup the solution based on my scenario?

Staff response: No reason to add it more than once. No device should ever be added more than once. I use for instance a "Utility Room" with a rack in it with the matrix and sources. Those devices are then referenced from every other room.

Good to hear this is the way to do it as it's how I've been configuring this, along with toggle activities to store current states (IP devices with no track power and WoL).

What would be really nice is to be able to effectively 'hide' a room so that these rooms with no activities (or activities that purely store state) don't hang around in the UI when they don't need to be shown. Is it possible to do this at all? Almost like having the ability to expand on 'Single Room Mode', being able to assign multiple rooms to a device; or of course just simply a switch to hide an activity similar to being able to hide/show the remote for a specific device.

2017

Hi Guys. Hope you can help. I have a number of smart devices which I seem to be getting working ok. The one that is stumping me is Phillips Hue

In the Phillips Hue app I have it broken down as such

Bathroom
Hallway
Bedroom
Living Room
Kitchen
Spare Room
Garage

etc etc

Now each room has 1 bulb to as many as 4 or 5. The Hue app gives you the ability to also switch all bulbs on or what is more handy is when I go to bed being able to to check and if needs be switch them all off in one go.

Now I am looking to use the Simple Control app for a number of reasons but mainly so that I am not having to use a million different apps.

Is there a way that I can create an activity for each room but then also have an activity that will turn everything on or off? no matter what I do I can't see or do this. Must be something I am doing. I thank you in advance for any help you can give.

Craig

I also have several HUE bulbs grouped as one device in Homekit, however they show up as different devices in the Simple Control App. Any way to tell simple control to read/use these groups?

Regards,

CJ

Staff response: Add the Hue hub as its own device. You can then use Scenes defined in Hue. Also, the groups defined for each Hue room will be automatically presented. A HomeKit Group will not be presented.

2017

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with the formatting here. I'm running this in a Mac terminal. The command is direct from the docs with the spaces removed and escape characters added before the "

Executing activities works fine

curl -X POST localhost:47147/api/v1/runactivity -d '{"activity_uuid":"5DCDB8AE-0F7D-49D1-B4AB-7E53E676AB23"}'
{"status":"success","data":{},"code":200}

But running device commands does not

curl -X POST localhost:47147/api/v1/sendcommands -X POST -d '{\\"delay\\":\\"1000\\",\\"commands\\":[{\\"type\\":\\"command\\",\\"params\\":{\\"command\\":\\"PAUSE\\",\\"device\\":\\"7E0B4B82-5919-487E-A3C7-6205A9F2BF27\\",\\"repeat\\":\\"constant\\"}}]}'
{"status":"fail","data":"BadParams","code":400,"message":"Missing command array"}

Tries without the escape characters

curl -X POST localhost:47147/api/v1/sendcommands -X POST -d '{"delay":"1000","commands":[{"type":"command","params":{"command":"PAUSE","device":"7E0B4B82-5919-487E-A3C7-6205A9F2BF27","repeat":"constant"}}]}'
{"status":"fail","data":"BadParams","code":400,"message":"Invalid command(s)"}

Staff response: Just a reminder that we explicitly do not moderate up support-related posts in the forums as has always been the case. If something isn't fully support (like this thread) and might benefit from 3rd party input, we'll moderate it up, but safe to say no official support replies will ever appear in the forums, because they're busily handling actual support tickets. The forums are moderated user discussion and feature request tracking, not support. Clicking the "Support" link on the website shows numerous ways to start a support ticket.

2017

Is there a published API that would allow me to directly control a SimpleBlaster without having to go through a SimpleHub?

Staff response: Sure, they support the whole GlobalCache API both new HTTP and the old 4998 styles. They publish such documents.

I know those things. Great. Thank you.

2017

I'm interested in setting up multiple TVs in a single room. Most likely two of the tvs would be the same make and model. Will I have an issue control those two TVs via individual IR Emitters?

In other words will I be able to control sources/volume/power independently or will changing one TV result in the other TV making the same adjustment?

Setup:

3 TVs (TLC Roku TVs, 2 identical Make/Model)
3 Apple TVs
OTA input for each TV
Audio will be from the speakers in each tv (no receiver)

Staff response: Should be trivial. Use emitter covers if you experience interference. Black electrical tape will do if it's not going to be visible. Search for "infrared emitter cover" and you'll find billions of them.

Thanks for the info!

2017

Will the cameras automatically populate from the ones I have added to SimpleControl or do I have to add them manually?

Staff response: It's automatic after you pair.

2017

**Has anyone heard anything about the possibility of Apple expanding their 10-Device limit slightly.

Back before they had the "Home Sharing" feature, our family did it the old-way (to keep from re-buying the same Apps and Media).
1. A main shared Apple-ID/iTunes account for all family purchases from Apple
2. Each family member has their own separate iCloud account for personal stuff

It's simple and it still works fine. But needless to say, the list of Authorized devices is getting pretty full. I don't see adding dedicated Simple Control devices making the situation any better.

Not really a Simple Control problem, but I thought some of you might have some ideas to combat it.

2017

Hi,

I use Irule for my home automation needs and have been happy with the very customisation this web based builder brings... however they have notified they plan to folder in a few years so Im already looking for options, and wondered if simple control is one. I use my system for:

1. Vera Z Wave lights and Heating - I have feedback based images, so custom off and on images depending on the xml feedback.
2. Control various IR devices using a GC100 and iTach (TVs, Projector etc)
3. Use serial from GC100 to get projector feedback and state plus control.
4. Have a page for kodi that displays volume and now playing, again from xml feedback.
5. Use variables to change the actions of button depending on state/feedback.

The feedback from the devices and the abiity to show the state, with custom images or text is important. The variables are complex so probably have no equivalent, but what about the rest?

Im also not sure what option suits me? I have maybe a dozen devices and use have 2 iphones and an iPad I would like to create systems for. I would have preferred Andriod too but understand this is not available.

John

The cost of finding-out how it works is pretty low. For $8 ($5 App and $3 20-Device Simple Subscription) you can give it a try. I'm not sure about some of the advanced or tricky stuff, but a majority of it should be no problem.

1. It supports Vera Hubs
2. Many Global Cache Adapters are supported.

3. Depends on what model Projector (see above link). My Epson 8350 is supported by IR as part of a larger group.
4. I use Kodi on Windows-10 no problem. Not sure about this exact thing but it sounds cool
5. There are Toggles, Triggers, and some other stuff. See PDF manuals

My Panasonic Plasma-TV has ethernet for VieraCast, but doesn't appear to actually be IP-controllable. It also has serial, and I considered going RS-232 with it. However, using the Simple-Blaster via IR was cheaper and works fine (it just needs to be turned On/Off). Just sayin, maybe you can pair-it-down a bit.

Yes, you can buy the Simple Control Home App once, and use it on as many iOS devices as you need.

Someboby that knows iRule or has migrated away from it might be able to answer better.

I am also an iRule user looking to migrate as iRule is shocking going to abandon us.
The key features that iRule has/had that I am hoping to find here are:
1. Global Cache compatibility (seems to be the case). But is it reliable?
2. Customer Support: The iRule learning curve was steep, but very powerful. Is there responsive Customer Support for Simple Control? How strong and useful is this Community?
3. Device Compatibility: iRule has an very extensive database of audio/video devices, however esoteric. The list of devices on the Simple Control website seems more limited. Can new devices be created in I know the hex or IR codes?

Interestingly, I became disenchanted with iRule before the announcement, because they never had an...

2017

Question: Hello,

New user here (another iRule migrator).

Would appreciate a link to the "Roomie Agent" in order to add custom devices.
Dropbox is not an option.
Many thanks

Staff response: Anything you read that indicates you need that is so hopelessly out of date it is guaranteed to be wrong. Note that posts here can go all the way back to 2012. Make sure to check the date or the "Archives" tag before believing something is valid.

Custom device information is in the Knowledgebase:

The knowledgebase is culled. Significantly out of date information is deleted or updated. You need to watch for that manually in a forum environment.

Ah yes. Well that's exactly why it's good to use the knowledgebase. Because now that is updated as well:

2017

With the new Multihome support can I duplicate an existing configuration to create a new location?

This would be very useful to create "master template" locations and also for cloning an existing location for testing or tweaking without impacting the existing/working configuration.

Staff response: I wouldn't call it a "duplicate" per se. But certainly any existing configuration simply becomes a Multihome Location when that feature is turned on. You can add as many locations as you like (device count are summed across locations) to experiment with test scenarios. There is not currently a way to copy anything between them however.

Thanks!

I guess this is then an enhancement request to allow copying an entire house or room to another house or room and then being able to edit the settings of the devices (to choose the appropriate device since IP addresses will be different, IR ports might change, etc.)

That would allow pre-populating a "template", cloning it when at the destination, and quickly tuning it to the actual configuration.

Adding favorite channels to tune, multi-step scenes, etc. can take a lot of fiddling. It would be helpful for anyone with more than one location or client to have a way to craft the configuration in advance and be able to rapidly deploy to a new environment.

I think the capability to copy/edit devices has been requested by others already; with Multihome, this becomes much more useful to have.

2016

Hi,

I am looking for some help solving an issue with proximity automation. I've read all the literature I could find on this topic but have not been able to solve the issue.

Equipment:

- iPhone 6S Plus, Simple Control app is NOT always open, location services set to always, background refresh on
- iPad Air 2, never locked, screen always on, Simple Control app IS always open, location services set to always, background refresh on
- Lutron Caseta Smart Bridge Pro, dimmers, switches

Objective:

Turn on lights when the iPhone enters the range of the iPad when the Simple Control app is NOT running in the foreground of the iPhone, but IS running in the foreground of the iPad.

Issue:

The proximity automation works perfectly as long as the Simple Control app is running in the foreground on my iPhone; however, it does not work when the Simple Control app is not running in the foreground. I have tried every permutation of settings I can think of, and I even see the geofence icon for Simple Control on my iPhone when the Simple Control app is not open, but it's unclear what it's doing.

Please advise.

Staff response: This was covered somewhere in an older post. Apple didn't understand why iBeacons required background location support during one of our releases earlier this year. After even talking on the phone, it just didn't get understood. When that kind of thing happens, we basically have to wait for a specific release entirely designed to go back and forth with Apple on this issue. Their policies all say it's fine, but when you get unlucky with a reviewer that didn't understand, problems happen and we can't hold up the whole world for one issue. So even though this functionality had been approved by Apple and working since 2014, it has been disabled for some months until we can re-activate it, create a release around it that has a lot of free time to go back and forth in review, and hopefully get a reviewer that knows about iBeacons.

2016

Just curious if they've made it possible to integrate with Simple Control in the new M or P models.

Staff response: Given Vizio's historical lack of IP Control, we do not typically test against Vizio beyond infrared.

If the situation changes in the future and users observe Wake on LAN or other clear signs that IP control is provided along with the features that make it useful such as the ability to turn the device on, we would certainly look at them.

Hey Will. Thanks for the response. It probably doesn't mean much but the 2016 tv's have this smart cast android tablet remote which made me think maybe they'd expanded a bit their control options.

Just curious though... if Vizio's support HDMI CEC and so does the receiver it's plugged into, is that a way around this issue for at least Power on/off? That's assuming the Receiver in question is IP controllable.

2016

For those wanting Bluesound support (bluesound.com), I recently created a basic driver using the Bluesound HTTP API and the Simple Control DDK.

Unfortunately the DDK does not support XML as a valid format for device feedback, so the only supported commands are currently:

PLAY, PAUSE, PREVIOUS, NEXT, PRESET1-5

At least this lets you include Bluesound commands in Simple Control macro's - which is better than nothing!

The forum software doesn't allow attaching .plist files, so here are the contents of my "RoomieCodes.plist" file:

[code]

<plist version="1.0">
<array>
\t<dict>
\t\t<key>cat</key>
\t\t<string>BluOS</string>
\t\t<key>codes</key>
\t\t<dict>
\t\t\t<key>NEXT</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Skip</string>
\t\t\t<key>PREVIOUS</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Back</string>
\t\t\t<key>PRESET4</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Preset?id=4</string>
\t\t\t<key>PRESET3</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Preset?id=3</string>
\t\t\t<key>PRESET2</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Preset?id=2</string>
\t\t\t<key>PAUSE</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Pause</string>
\t\t\t<key>PRESET1</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Preset?id=1</string>
\t\t\t<key>PLAY</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Play</string>
\t\t\t<key>PRESET5</key>
\t\t\t<string>/Preset?id=5</string>
\t\t</dict>
\t\t<key>brand</key>
\t\t<string>Bluesound</string>
\t\t<key>method</key>
\t\t<string>http</string>
\t\t<key>type</key>
\t\t<integer>13</integer>
\t</dict>
</array>
</plist>
[/code]

Use the instructions in the DDK Support article (simplecontrol.com/knowledgeb ... om-device/) to create your own plist file and import to your configuration.

Then just add a new device in the Simple Control settings, and choose "Manual IP" device. Enter the IP address of your Bluesound device (for example, 192.168.1.1) and enter the port as "11000".

Does anyone know if Bluesound supports an App Scheme URL (for example "bluesound://") to switch to the Bluesound app from SimpleControl?

Did you ever expand on this? I recognize this is an old post but BluOS has come a long way...

2016

**Hi all,
I've finally upgraded my ancient Sony TV to a spangly new XD85 model and i must say that I'm loving the Smart TV features. I've got a basic configuration running with SimpleControl but was wondering if I could make my life a little easier by launching Smart TV apps from an activity start-up routine? The main one being Plex.

I see there is a ".APPLICATION LAUNCH" command for the TV, but how do we find out what the Parameter should be for each app?

2016

Question: Hi all,
I'm new to simple control, but slowly figuring it out.

I have a new Samsung (UN65JS8500FXZA) and I've got it connected to Simple Control, and it works well with my tivo.

This series of Samsung TVs has what I believe is a Tizen-powered smarthub where you can run apps like Netflix. I have set up Simple Control to load an app by using the +DIAL APP LAUNCH command and guessing what parameter to use (eg. "Netflix" or "Amazon"), but for some reason the +DIAL APP CLOSE command doesn't see...

Staff response: DIAL as a protocol is implemented in wildly different ways by every manufacturer. It's sort of a wonder it works at all and I'm glad we don't actually depend on it for anything that isn't cursory. There are several efforts to replace it such as Amazon Fling and Googlecast, but neither of those have caught on in any broad sense yet.

Meanwhile, I can't say I've ever seen DIAL app close work, it's just part of the protocol that we provide in case someone implements it.

Super cool conceptually, but somewhat difficult to use in practice is the +DIAL APP PLAY command. If you give that a parameter of the Netflix content ID, most DIAL supporting TVs will play that content. For instance, 70297087 is the movie Chef.

Definitely the best way to close an app is to use the TV controls rather than DIAL. Most likely DIAL will disappear over time and get replaced by something else.

2016

Question: Does the simple control skill exist on the UK version of the amazon echo?

A search does not return it!

Staff response: I checked our skill configuration and all countries are turned on. Perhaps because the UK is new, not everything is in place. If you continue not to see it, please report the issue to Amazon in your area.

We believe this is now resolved, but it usually takes some weeks for Amazon to review any changes. After that, we expect the skill will then be available in the UK.

Amazon's review process is a black box. We have no information on it. As Amazon didn't provide a heads up that the UK was going live, all we can do is work within the process that exists once the process did indeed exist which is only days ago. We have a working US skill. Making that live on the UK store is something that Amazon is entirely in control as far as speed goes. It is just waiting for them to green light and has been for a while now. We will not have further information on this until it is in fact live in the UK which could be 5 minutes or a month from now.

Good point. We need a list, ideally in order of popularity, of common UK channel names. It can be easily added with that.

These have been submitted. It usually takes 1-2 weeks for them to process.

Note that to be usable, the channel names don't end with "HD". So if you want to tune "BBC1", just say "BBC 1". As long as you have anything resembling "BBC1" or "BBC 1" or "BBC1 HD" or anything like that, it will work fine.

Something like "Channel 4" and "5" may be best stated as a channel number.

The new channel names should now be live in the UK.

2016

Question: Is there a list of devices where PMP is supported? Does it need to be installed on a PC or does PMP running on an Xbox One or Nvida Shield quailfy?

I am testing an Xbox One, but will want to leverage a NVidia shield as well. The PMP App running on an Xbox One is not auto discovered, and I am not sure what port to use to attempt to set it up manually

Staff response: We support Plex Media Player on whatever platforms it runs on. All.

The catch there is that Plex makes a lot of clients, and some of them, the old stuff, is not a "Plex Media Player". For instance, their old Roku client certainly was not. They may have changed that over time. Regardless, it's a question for them. What we support is PMP and the old Plex Home Theater as well on all platforms they run on. Some of Plex's clients over time have not been actual descendants of that line.

The nVidia Shield client is definitely a full-fledged Plex Media Player and we work well with it. I haven't tried the Xbox One Plex.

When something doesn't auto-discover, tap Manual IP and the IP and then enter the port listed in the Device Compatibility page.

2016

I have a 3rd party iBeacon that my phone clearly sees however i cant see it in Simple Control. Is there anyway to add 3rd party ibeacon in Simple Control? Also would one of the more known ibeacons (Estimote) come appear in the app?

Staff response: This article covers that question:

simplecontrol.com/knowledgeb ... detection/

Just to add my experience on this one - as I've just setup iBeacon's in my home. Took me around an hour but now I have it figured out it would take only a few minutes to do.

My experience is that the instructions provided aren't technically accurate:

1. In Simple Control, Go to Settings -> Proximity Automation and note down the Beacon ID.
2. On each of the iBeacon's you need to set the following lines:
- UUID, Set this to the Beacon ID that you wrote down above.
- Major, Set this to the line number of your room, counting from top to bottom. Except - Line 1 doesn't work (For me). I created a dummy room on line 1 and then started with Living Room on line 2, Game room on line 3, Bedroom on Line 4 etc..
- Minor, Doesn't seem to matter what this is set to. I just set this to the same as the Major to keep it simple.
3. That's all you need to do. Go back to Settings -> Proximity Automation and enable the 'Automatic Room Detection' under MONITOR. You should see all of your iBeacon's listed (if they are in range) with their estimated distance.

For me, when I walk between rooms now I can see the distance changes on all the iBeacon's, and Simple Control jumps to that rooms Activities / Controls when I walk into the room relatively quickly (it's not always instant).

FYI - I bought 3 Kontakt iBeacons: store.kontakt.io/our-products/2 ... eacon.html
Total cost $81 (about £56) and they say they last around 2 years on battery.
I also had a phone call on the day of delivery from Kontakt asking if I needed any help to set them up - so very good experience with them so far !

2015

Hello,

I am unable to pair Simple Control with the new Apple TV 4. Here is what is happening:

- I'm a big Simple Control user and have paired successfully with several Apple TV 2/3 devices
- My new Apple TV 4 is running version 9.1
- My Simple Control App is running version 4.0.7
- I can get the 4-digit number to appear in Simple Control
- I can enter the 4-digit number into the Apple TV 4
- "Roomie - Jeff" shows under "Paired Devices" on the Apple TV 4
- Nothing happens when I try to control the Apple TV 4 using Simple Control
- Simple Control shows the commands at the top of the screen as blue like they were sent/received successfully
- Apple's iPhone Remote App does work and successfully controls the Apple TV 4

Thanks for the help!
Jeff

Staff response: Quick reminder that the forums are not useful for support, so please direct support questions to support.

We've seen a couple instances of this. They have been resolved by resetting the Apple TV.

2015

I have a Sony VLP-HW40ES in my theater, controlled along with the rest of the equipment by the Simple Control app on my iPad. Infrared is handled by an iTach ethernet-to-IR device. The one function I cannot control is the powering up and down of the projector, everything else works great. I've tried teaching the IR command to the IR repeater but the Sony just doesn't respond. I can see the LED blink to indicate transmission. Since all the AV equipment is in another room, I have few wired options. But there is a spare 4-conductor unshielded cable I can use. Actually, I tried using that with a mini plug wired to the IR out on my Yamaha receiver, with no success.
Is there anything any of you smart people can suggest?

Have you exhausted all the IR debugging? Playing around with delays and repeat counts often fixes problematic IR. Did you do the teaching with the actual iTach learning mode utility or the Roomie learning mode command? (iTach has a standalone PC-based learn utility.)

Will a hard power control at the A/C plug work? You could get a WiFi controlled A/C power switch like Belkin WeMo or iHome SmartPlug.
They come with an iOS app to turn the attached device on or off. You could "launch" the app from Roomie using a url command, or if you are more capable, most of these devices have a REST API that you could configure more directly with different URL's for "Device on" and "device off".

2015

Does anybody happen to know if the Global Cache plugin for Vera will work with the Roomie Blaster?

I'm trying to control my non-IP devices (such as my TV) using a IR Blaster device from my Vera Home Automation System. I know there is a Vera plugin for the Global Cache iTachWifi. I'm trying to figure out how different (or if it is the same thing) the Roomie Blaster is.

Thanks in advance

Roomie Blasters are 100% compatible with all APIs provided by iTach products. Basically, Roomie Blaster is an iTach plus Roomie-specific additions.

Thanks for the info Roomie. I've gone ahead and ordered a Roomie Blaster.

2015

I've downloaded / read the integration guide for Roomie Agent & Smartthings, but it appears Smartthings UI is out of sync as the instructions and screen shots no longer seem to be valid. I don't see an easy way to add a "SmartDevice" via Code.

The instructions there for adding a Smart Device from Code seem to match the current graph.api.smartthings.com and seem to work fine right now. Perhaps you're using the new SmartThings Hub V2? It's possible things are different with that as that's not something we support or have tested. We'll likely look at supporting that controller at some point after 4.0 is released.

This has been resolved. There was never actually an issue here even with Hub 2. The instructions just don't match all of their screenshots in their app update. We'll be updating our documentation in the next week or two to match their app update. As you long as your follow the current instructions and install all 3 Roomie apps on your SmartThings graph account, the only real difference is that you now add the Roomie Agent Connect app from the "Marketplace" tab at the bottom under "My Apps".

2015

Question: Hi Folks,

Please forgive any construction in the next couple of weeks as we cut over to the new brand, Simple Control, and product line. Some parts of the website will be taken offline during this time to migrate to the new website, new store, new forums, new app, and new product line. At the end of this process by late October or so, the existing forums will be online in an archived mode for searching, and new content will go into the new forum. This is now a bit of a hard hat area, moderation...

Staff response: Hi Folks,

Please forgive any construction in the next couple of weeks as we cut over to the new brand, Simple Control, and product line. Some parts of the website will be taken offline during this time to migrate to the new website, new store, new forums, new app, and new product line. At the end of this process by late October or so, the existing forums will be online in an archived mode for searching, and new content will go into the new forum. This is now a bit of a hard hat area, moderation may be slower than usual, please as always make sure to submit support questions as tickets rather than to the forums.

Product functionality itself should not experience any impact from this migration.

As part of the process, Simple Control the new app will replace Roomie Remote on the App Store shortly. It's just a normal App Store update with a new name. As with any major migration to a new release, customers with managed configurations should evaluate when is the best time to migrate to a major new release before updating from the App Store. We anticipate working through any early issues quickly, but any 0.0 release will find some unanticipated issues to be resolved in future maintenance releases.

A full What's New guide will be posted when the app goes live detailing migration steps. In particular, Roomie Agent must be upgraded to Simple Sync and each client must be paired to Simple Sync which now uses an explicit pairing approval. Simple Sync will be made available simultaneous with the app going live. Alternatively, you may activate an option in Simple Sync to allow all local pairings automatically which simulates the same behavior used today. Also, all Dropbox links must be re-established in the app. If you have not performed a backup recently, now would be a good time to do so. All in-app purchases remain in effect exactly as they are defined today so there should be no issues for migration there.

The new minimum iOS version as we previously announced is 8.4. Downloading on an older device will provide the last compatible release for iOS 7/8.0-8.3 (3.3.0) or iOS 6 (2.4.1). The new minimum watchOS version is 2.0. Apple Watches not yet upgraded to 2.0 will not have the app after upgrading.

Thank you and we hope you enjoy the new release!

Hi Folks,

Quick note that we will be shutting down the old store (store.roomieremote.com) soon as the new store (store.simplecontrol.com) seems mostly operational for the products that have gone live so far. The remaining content issues will be fixed over the next few days. A few of the legacy products like WF2CC and such will no longer be available on the new store, and Roomie Agent licenses will be for Simple Sync only on the new store. If there is any reason you need some of the products only available on the old store, this is the last call. Also, one final reminder that Roomie Agent OS X purchased on the old store is a free upgrade to the new Simple Sync.

Also one additional note on an ...

2015

I've got a rudimentary Bluetooth LE input device (Griffin PowerMate Bluetooth - store.griffintechnology.com/powermate-bluetooth) that I'm trying to integrate into my home theater room, and I've got an idea for using it to control my lighting system and a few components.

The PowerMate is paired to a Mac Mini, which is running the Roomie OS X Agent. I can configure it to issue up to 6 commands, each of which can be mapped to things like keyboard combinations, system events and AppleScripts. I'm wondering if I can take advantage of that last ability and use the PowerMate to run an AppleScript that somehow interfaces with the Roomie Agent to issue IR and/or IP commands to control components in my room. For example, I'd love to use the device as a virtual light switch/dimmer, or to control the volume on my amp. It's the AppleScript/Agent interface that I'm not sure is doable.

Any thoughts on how I might accomplish this? Or even if it's doable? Has anyone done anything similar with a Bluetooth input device using a different approach? This is purely a "nice to have" feature, so it's no big deal if it's not viable, but it sure would be fun to do!

Thanks!

2014

i'm thinking about reducing or eliminating my usage of DirecTv by adding a streaming box. I'm having difficulty determing the level of integration available with the popular models, in fact I'm not sure there even is any feedback integration. Am I right or wrong?

WD media box? Apple TV? Roku? Amazon Fire? Others?

If you're going to get one right now, a Roku is the obvious choice. They work great via IP today. They offer reasonable levels of control via IP, but no feedback. There are recent statements from Roku that they will improve feedback in the near future.

Apple TV is still infrared only modulo Roomie's ability to use Airplay with iTunes to control it. There is no evidence Apple TV will change, but with Fire TV on the market now perhaps Apple will finally decide to make some improvements.

Fire TV seems likely to be an excellent choice in the long run, but at present is definitely the worst choice as it has absolutely no control at all by any method and that issue is not just for Roomie. It is just not controllable.

It's not clear WD is still being updated, perhaps its fans can comment here. As far as IP control, it is equal to Roku.

2014

Question: AppleTV IP control has been working like a charm, but I have one unresolved issue:

When the AppleTV goes into standby mode, it doesn't seem to wake for IP commands (I'm connected over ethernet even, not wifi) so I need to use infrared to send any command to wake it up before it'll respond.

Best ideas for how to handle this? Not super hopeful at this point because Apple's own Remote app doesn't show standby AppleTVs in my experience, so it may not be possible...

Staff response: AppleTV IP control has been working like a charm, but I have one unresolved issue:

When the AppleTV goes into standby mode, it doesn't seem to wake for IP commands (I'm connected over ethernet even, not wifi) so I need to use infrared to send any command to wake it up before it'll respond.

Best ideas for how to handle this? Not super hopeful at this point because Apple's own Remote app doesn't show standby AppleTVs in my experience, so it may not be possible...

Posting this FYI for Roomie and for anyone who is still having this problem with AppleTV 3s that are not part of the recall list and been restored in iTunes. During testing I got the exact same results using the Apple Remote app so it is definitely an Apple TV 7.0.2 bug.

I tested 3 new AppleTV 3s, with different source build locations (serials starting with C, D and F) all purchased this week and all on 7.0.2. Apparently there was a bug in 7.0.1 that did not allow AppleTV 3 to wake up. This was fixed in 7.0.2 but for wireless only. My ethernet connected AppleTVs would not wake, I ran many hours of tests and when I switched to wireless it worked fine every time! But that is not a solution.

I sent Apple feedback and would appreciate others do the same.

FYI to interested parties... Apple TV update 7.1 finally fixed this! It also fixed the DHCP problem but introduced another DHCP problem, it took 5 addresses! At least Roomie and Apple Remote wakes it up now. If you have the wake issue update to 7.1.

2014

Question: So, I'm setting up Roomie to control my ATV2 using AirControl, including shortcuts to launch apps like Netflix. One of the things I would like to do is be able to send text to aircontrol for search. It is supported by sending the http command "/enterText=".

I've added a keyboard, but I'm unclear if I can customize what I can do with the output. Could I take the output and silently send it to aircontrol? Or am I missing something really basic?

Th...

Staff response: Alrighty, it helps when I update the roomie app on my device. Yes the keyboard is working now, albeit I was expecting it to send each keystroke to the atv individually instead of waiting for me to enter a whole text string and then sending. This would be nice since most of the text entry places use 'predictive searching' or whatever and also deleting characters is a weird thing to do as a string. Is there a particular reason it was done this way? Too slow as individual characters or something?

2014

I have deployed a Mac mini to be used as a HTPC. It is physically in a different room than my Apple TV (3rd gen) and HDTV, so it is not directly connected with HDMI.
Currently, I run iTunes and use Roomie to play mp4 videos in the iTunes "Home Movies" library via AirPlay. (Everything is connected via wired Ethernet not WiFi for reliability and bandwidth).
Given the limitations of using iTunes for a video library (primarily, the difficulty of scrolling through a long list of titles and detailed guide information), I'm considering switching to a HTPC application such as Plex or XBMC.
I'm looking for recommendations on the best choice vis a vis tightest integration with Roomie.
Also, I wish to continue to use AirPlay streaming. I don't want to mirror the Mac Mini display to the Apple TV using AirPlay; I only want AirPlay to stream the video/audio when a title is selected to play. Is this feasible?

I use XBMC I find it to be far superior to Plex in every way. It also integrates great with Roomie, showing the full meta data details as well as movie art. I run Plex on my Roku, only because it's the only option I've found.

Having tried both, (Plex Media Server with Plex Home Theater front-end versus XBMC) I think I prefer Plex.
I'm not too excited about the XBMC user interface and Plex did a good enough job of picking up my library of videos. I don't use either for audio or photos.
I particularly like the streaming support in Plex. Fire up any browser, and you can access it from anywhere. Very powerful feature.
Neither front-end can do what I want -- redirect the onscreen display to an Apple TV using AirPlay.
However, I can use Plex on my iPad or iPhone and invoke AirPlay to get it onscreen without too much trouble.
I have found there is an app/hack called "Plex Connect" which would replace the useless "Apple Trailer"s app with a direct interface to Plex on Apple TV. It does this with DNS and SSL certificate tricks - no jail brake or other mods.
Sounds exactly what I am looking for - has anyone tried this out?

I currently use Plex and Plex/web to watch my collection.

I am thinking of dedicating a slim computer to be a Plex home theatre source. I am looking to build a small i5/i7 system with ir mouse/keyboard (hopefully almost never needed), and some remote to change movies, menus, etc. Since Plex Home Theatre uses JSON, I am hoping that Roomie will do a plex/home/theatre device, like the XBMC ones they wrote previously.

I did have an XBMC interface to my collection running on a Raspberry PI and it worked well, with the AEON Flux skin. But the XBMC interface is a bit too complicated for the female/non-techie in the house.

No matter Plex or XBMC you choose, you should know that they are not able to support iTunes library, since iTunes digital content are encrypted with FairPlay DRM technology, created by Apple. So in order to make less limitations on using iTunes library, you can use M4V Converter to help you firstly. Then you are able to...

2014

Is it possible for Roomie to set itunes airplay to stream audio to more than one airplay devise? I have tried setting a button with multiple airplay set commands but it only sets the last device in the command list.

iTunes does allow multiple audio targets, but not multiple video targets. To use multiple audio targets, the command is .AIRPLAY TOGGLE SET not .AIRPLAY SET. Using the toggle version makes sure not to clear any prior targets assuming all of your targets are audio.

You may also of course just use the Airplay popover from the Media Feedback panel and select whichever audio targets you would like.

But doesnt airplay VIDEO only work on AppleTV? So it is one device anyway? Or did they open it up to 3rd parties?

You could always have many AppleTVs. The distinction is that iTunes limits Airplay video to 1 target and audio to many.

So there is a way to use iTunes and play to different rooms by just picking the other locations? Will it automatically change the source of the other rooms?

2014

Apple TV IP - Great addition to Roomie!

Right now, we use 4-5 iOS devices in different rooms in the house. I use one ipad as the "master", programming all rooms from there and then uploading the config to Dropbox where the other devices pull down the config. Saves a lot of time working with individual devices.

How will it work with the Apple TV remote authentication? Once I set the individual devices to pair, will future downloads of roomie configs from a centralized upload wipe out those pairings, or once the pairing is set, it's more of hardware level thing and the pairings will not be broken?..

Think of it as pairing with "Roomie" not your iPad. Once you pair with Roomie on your iPad, you're done and it works on all of them.

IP control is great. Thanks. I keep an old iPod running an old ios and an old version of roomie in the family room. It received the new IP AppleTV activity I setup, but it does not control the AppleTV. Does IP for AppleTV not work on older versions of roomie? Thanks

Apple TV IP Control does require Roomie 3.0.

2014

I set up my Roomie remote on my iPhone and want to transfer it all across to my iPad. I used dropbox to transfer the configuration and it shows up fine. However, as I try to use the remote, it tells me that I need to add the Home Theater Pack, which I already have on the iPhone. When I enter the Roomie Store and try to restore purchases, I get a message that I must Purchase the Application first, even though I have already purchased.



Do I have to purchase all the add-ons again for the new device? Is there a way to transfer the purchases onto the new device, as I will no longer be using the iPhone for the remote?

On the main page (where all your rooms are listed) select the settings button in the upper left then go the Roomie Store. This is where you normally purchase the in app upgrades. If you are logged in with the same Apple ID you used for the original purchases just click Restore Purchases and any of the optional items you purchased with this ID will be activated.

You have to use the same Apple ID as your iPhone though otherwise you'd have to purchase them again. If you use a different ID on your iPad you can always just log out and re login with your iPhone ID to complete the activation then log back into the original account.

2013

I have my old Denon 1804 driving my patio speakers via Apple Tv. Everything here works great. Now I'm wanting to install a in ceiling speaker in my bathroom and run it off of zone 2. I will do this with a Airport Express. I cannot get the commands to just turn on zone 2 so I do not have to turn the patio speakers on. I want to be able to just listen to the bathroom speaker independently.

Is this possible?

Each zone is a separate set of commands so that every single command doesn't need to be labelled "ZONE 2 COMMAND". So you wont find the Zone 2 commands in the Zone 1 device. Just add the device again as Zone 2 and you'll see the commands for that.

It works perfectly. I was making the mistake of adding the Denon for all zones.

2013

Hi All,

I am currently researching home automation solutions which, of course, I would like to ensure are compatible with Roomie. I see that the Fibaro Home Center 2 is on the list of supported IP controllable devices. However, it does not provide any live feedback.

Can anyone confirm that this is the extent of Roomie's support? It would be great if feedback on the brightness and state of lights was available.

Thanks!

Hi

Anyone try out Home Center 2 with Roomie and want to share their experience?

Thanks :slight_smile:

2013

I have a BDT230 and have not been successful in getting it to communicate with Roomie using either wifi or ethernet connections to the BDT230 using port 80 (haven't tried any others). It was not autodiscovered so I set it up with a manual IP.

I have FIOS router in bridge mode connected to an Apple Airport Extreme. I have been able to ping the BDT230 from my iPhone so I know the network connection is working and the iPhone MAC address shows up on the enabled devices list. But when I go to add the 230 as a device, the Test Remote fails.

Another strange thing (nothing to do with Roomie) is that the BDT230 did not "see" two of my 4 iDevices until I pinged it using an iPhone ping utility (the one just named "Ping"). After I pinged it with each device, they showed up on the MAC address list.

Is it possible that this has something to do with the fact that Panasonic dropped support for iPhone control for both the BDT230 and 330?

Any help will be much appreciated as one of the main reasons I selected the 230 was that Panasonic appeared to have the most complete IP support.

The 230 is still listed as Unconfirmed. We have 1 other report that there is some issue with that model. These are not widely available yet so we don't have a test unit but we expect to have it in the next couple of days. When we do, we'll figure out what's going on there.

Do you have a reference for Panasonic dropping their app? We assume they just have been slow to update it.

Thank you.

Wow, that was a quick response! Good to hear you will be working on it soon.

As far as them dropping the app that's not the case for the 2011 and 2012 versions, it's that the 230 and 330 may not support the function.

In the comparison table on the Amazon page:

amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-BDT ... B00AYB3OMG
it shows that "Smartphone Remote Control Capability" is not supported by the 330 or the 230. This is where I saw it first.

However, searching just now, in the spec table here it shows it is:
shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-BDT230?t=specs

So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see if they come out with a 2013 version of the app as the 2012 one doesn't work (it can't find the 230).

We've now tested a BDT-230 and indeed it definitely does not use the same control method as prior years. We assume that will also apply to the 330 and have moved these models to "TBD" from "Unconfirmed".

At this point Panasonic will need to update their app for us to make sure we are handling it correctly. Their app is part of the marketing materials for the device so it seems safe to say that will not only exist but is now overdue. Contacting Panasonic support to ask why their advertised feature doesn't exist wouldn't hurt.

Thank you.

So I contacted Panasonic support. Here's their reply:

"Here's the reply I...

2013

Hi, new user and 1st post. I have purchased basic, HD and IR packs, but waiting on my Itach hardware to arrive. Am I unable to setup and 'play' with configurations for my IR devices until Roomie detects the Itach on the network....as I only have option to add an IP device when to try to add new devices. Thanks!

Yes, you must have an actual iTach or L5 in order to add infrared devices.

I'm trying to figure out if I need an iTach device, and if so which one. I have an Epson 5010 projector mounted to the ceiling. It is not listed on the supported list. It has a RJ45 jack, but I'm not sure if it is IP addressable. I'm guessing this will require a WF2IR adapter.



Across the room in a rack I have my Oppo-93, Marantz AV7005, DirecTV HD DVR and AppleTV. All of which are on the supported list. Can I assume they can be fully controlled through IP (i.e. volume, power, guide, pause, slow motion, etc) and not require an iTach? Thank you for the help!

You should take a look at the compatability list. Your oppo will need ir to power it up and the Apple TV is only controlled via ir. I have a projector setup where I have a wireless itach mounted on top of the projector using an ir emitter to control the projector. I then point the ir blaster at my equipment rack (open and about 12 feet away) to control receiver, blu-ray and Apple TV. You could move your blaster closer with a cheap extension cord if need be. The itach comes with a blaster and 2 ir emitters.

Thanks for the quick reply. I ordered the iTech WF2IR device last night. I have limited space between the ceiling and my projector. Will it be a problem if I put the iTech in the rack, connect the Oppo and the AppleTV via the IR emitters and use the IR Blaster for the projector which is about 20 ft away? Thanks again for your help.

The only issue might be getting the blaster aimed at the ir window of the projector. The itach is a very small box it might be easier to put in on top of the projector or even Velcro it to the rear

Your suggestion worked great!! I put it on top of the projector. I had to reset the iTach to get it to broadcast the WiFi signal. I was able to use the IR Blaster for the projector and the equipment across the room in the rack.

Next on my list is to get the Epson projector commands working for resizing and 3D/2D.

Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

2013

As a special update here, L5 support is conditional on Apple's relationship with L5. Given that L5 went out of business at some point in mid-2013, it is unknown whether Apple will continue to approve apps that request access to the L5. Most likely, they will at least for a while until L5's annual developer agreement expires.

However, the only way to find out is for us to submit a new release. If at that time Apple decides that L5 is no longer a valid target because they're no longer operating, we may be unable to extend L5 support out to September as planned.

We therefore encourage immediate migration to iTach adapters for anyone still using the L5 given the end of L5 the company. While we still plan to retain L5 support until Summer 2014 as previously announced, we will need to remove L5 at any moment if Apple blocks release with L5 integrated, and we will not be able to provide any significant notice of such an event if it occurs beyond a few days or so.

Version 2.4 of Roomie will be released in the very near future. This is expected to be the final release (modulo any maintenance releases if needed) prior to the iOS 8 update this Fall that will require iOS 7 and remove L5 support.

This message is the final notice. All we will be able to do if you contact support after release of the Fall update with either of these two issues is provide consolation if you have not saved the IPA.

Note that assuming we do release a separate product 'Roomie Remote for iOS 6' as we did last year for iOS 5, that product will also not support the L5 as the old L5 company is not in business and Apple will not approve new apps for it.

If you require L5 support, it is necessary to save the IPA file for Roomie 2.4.X using iTunes prior to Roomie's Fall update or you will no longer have a way to use Roomie on iOS 6 or use an L5. If either of those are something relevant to you, then, as Chekov said, "now would be a good time".

A final update on this. Roomie 3.0 is the release that removes iOS 6 and L5 support. For Roomie 3.0, we will be taking advantage of Apple's fairly new ability to install older releases in order to provide iOS 6 support. That feature will allow version 2.4.1 (the current version) to be installed on iOS 6 devices from the App Store even after the current release is 3.X. iOS 5 will continue to require Roomie Remote for iOS 5. Roomie 3.0 will of course introduce official support for iOS 8. A quick table that says the same thing:


  • iOS 8: Roomie 3.X

  • iOS 7: Roomie 2.4.1 or Roomie 3.X

  • iOS 6: Roomie 2.4.1 (available from the App Store even after 3.X release)

  • iOS 5: Roomie Remote for iOS 5

Just to get this on the calendar, as we do every year, one version of iOS is dropped each September. We do plan to drop iOS 7 as usual in September 20...

2013

Hi,

I am a newbie to Roomie, and am loving it so far. I'm a "tinkerer" and seem to be genetically predesposed to try every option in an app....

I'm interested in what seems like the potential in the #, commands such as .Pandora set; .Play set, etc in Sonos. Would like to be able to jump directly to a station...if possible.

In Roku there are similar commands like .channel set. I'd like to be able to jump right to Netflix for example.

Is there a list of what these commands do and how to configure them?

Thanks!

Many IP controllable devices feature advanced commands like that. There isn't a simple rule for how to use each one, and some of them are too complex to try to document such as .PANDORA SET. However, some of them we do document and discuss and those can be used freely. For instance we've previously documented the .AIRPLAY SET and the new . AIRPLAY TOGGLE SET command in 1.7. Those just take simple Airplay speaker names.

Roku .CHANNEL SET is slightly less friendly, but not difficult. Use a web browser to access:

1.2.3.4:8060/query/apps

Replace 1.2.3.4 above with the IP of your Roku. That will show you the channel next to the ID of the channel that you would enter into the .CHANNEL SET command.

In general there is one rule. If you look at the command in Roomie and it asks you for a specific entry with a placeholder, for instance .VOLUME SET always asks for a normalized volume value in standard format (eg. '-42.5'), then the command accepts those friendly values. Otherwise the command is device native, and requires you to know what that device itself is expecting, for instance the Roku channel ID above, or a Denon radio preset, or countless other examples. You can always ask support if you need to perform a specific function.

Thanks!

In case anyone is having trouble finding their IDs, support just let me know that certain browsers (looking at you, Safari) may not display the IDs correctly.

2013

Hi



I'ver have XBMC work with JSON now for a few weeks. I just went in and changed the port number for web from 80 to 8083 in XBMC.

Now, obviously, the roomie remote cannot talk to the XBMC system. I had a few other json apps talking to XBMC, and had to change the ip to 192.168.1.16:8083

How do I set the port in Roomie? Right now, my switcher switches to XBMC but allcommand I try to send show RED

Thanks!

If you're using a custom port like that, the XBMC device can be added to Roomie using the Manual IP option. Select Add Device, enter the IP and custom port number, and select Media Player->XBMC->JSON.

Thank you.

Try port 8080, works me perfectly.

i use 8083, works fine. 8080,8081,8082 are in use by other stuff :)

2013

Hi,

I am in the process of testing a new app for the Roku currently in development called 'Media Browser 3'. This app allows the Roku to access and playback locally stored media such as movies and tv series.

I use Roomie to navigate the Roku - and the question came up as to specifically what types of commands are sent to the Roku to utilize the keyboard functionality over IP? Since the native Roku remote does not have a keyboard - we are interested in incorporating keyboard support within the app and would like to know what commands to respond to.

Many thanks!

The Roku keyboard command is the URL:

POST /keypress/Lit_##

Where ## is equal to the character to be typed. For instance:

POST /keypress/Lit_A

Thank you.

OK - thanks. Those commands only work on the search and input screens though, correct?

Well, Roomie can send them whenever you like. When Roku apps decide to accept keyboard input is up to each individual app.

Thank you.

2013

What is the empty box that appears under the directional pad on the remote? even when I turn off all sections, it's there. Can I get rid of it somehow? does it have some purpose?

What device are you using? That often happens for instance with misconfigured DirecTV boxes that don't have Whole Home turned on. If the feedback section appears, it should have feedback in it unless there's something misconfigured.

This is using the XBMC JSON config for Plex. Everything works fine but that empty box is annoying as space is already pretty limited on the iPhone. tried reconfiguring from scratch a couple of times but get same result. Ideas?

We discussed that in the XBMC JSON thread and is normal for XBMC JSON pre-1.8.

2013

My assumption is to use .KEY DOWN, but what do I send for the Parameter 1?

There is a long list of special keyboard parameters built into Roomie Agent when using the .KEY DOWN command. The actual name of the special command is what you enter. These are some of the most common:

ESCAPE
TAB
F4, F5, F6 (etc...)
HOME
PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN
FORWARD DELETE

There are many more and they're usually just the capitalized version of the name.

Thank you.

What can be used for the COMMAND key? For instance, I'd like to use .KEY DOWN to perform COMMAND+Q to quit Plex.

Thanks!

Command key equivalents are indeed not in the command list right now. However, we're deploying an update in the next couple of days with these new commands that would work much better for that anyway:

.APPLICATION QUIT
.APPLICATION HIDE
.APPLICATION FORCE QUIT

These all take the application name as a parameter. Roomie Agent will be auto-updated to 1.0.2 this weekend for that and a few other improvements.

Thank you.

2013

I'm having trouble with the power on function of the Sony S590 Blu Ray Player. I've read the other posts in this forum, and know about the requirement to register the device with the Sony Media Remote app, which I have done. I also have HDMI Control set to On and Quick Start set to On.

When I add the device, all functions appear to work properly except the Power On function. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to correct this?

I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it, but I've also noticed that the device does not appear in the Roomie's device list unless the power to the player is set to On. (It's as if there is no IP communication with the player unless the power is on.)

Any help is appreciated.

Also, the player does not show up in the list of devices when making an input selection (Input Switching) for my Denon 3808CI AVR. Yet it does appear in the main device selection list.

Again, any help is appreciated.

That sounds normal. Have you added the +WAKE ON LAN command per the FAQ?

Roomie Remote Support (Roomie Remote Support)

Just sending POWER ON does not work for Wake on LAN devices.

Yes, WAKE ON LAN was set. However, I discovered that the MAC address filled in by auto discovery was incorrect. Not sure why. Once I entered the correct MAC address, all was fine.

Thanks for your help!

sendme, how did you change the MAC address from the one provided autodiscovery? I'm having the same issue. But don't seem able to change it.

I have full control over the device with the exception of wakeonlan.

The silly mediaremote works fine, but nothing happening in roomie.

I'm having the exact same issue. Have tried all the suggestions but don't understand where to change the MAC address. If someone could elaborate it would be a great Christmas gift!

Doubledown,



Try leaving the MAC address field blank.

It worked for me.

Cheers! And Merry Christmas!


Thanks for the suggestion HoppyBrewer. Where did you find the field? Did you add the device manually instead of auto discovery?

leave the auto discovery address.

the field I'm referring to is under the 'wake-on-LAN' command.

the last field in the command is for the MAC address. Leave it blank.


Thanks again HB! I'll give it a shot when I get back home. And a Merry Christmas to you!

2012

Have you find the solution?

I have exactly the same problem. Using FIOS Actiontec. No devices can be discovered . I had reser the router. Wiped out and reinstalled Roomie a new. Still no lock. When trueing to add the IP manually there is no Itach Ethernet to IR as an option. Please advise

Check out these links.
discussions.apple.com/thread/38 ... 0&tstart=0

forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Inter ... rue/page/2

Thank You! You saved my hair. The solution was to disable IGMP Proxy setting in Actiontec router (I have no idea what is it for) I guess recent firmware update on the router added this "feature"

2012

Can you provide a bit more detail on how to setup Roomie with the Mi Casa Verde Vera Lite? I noticed that the Roomie Remote 1.7 release notes indicated that Roomie now has auto-detection support for the Vera. Unfortunately, my Vera Lite did not show up automatically so I tried adding it manually using the static IP address and the port indicated on the IP Compatibility list of 3480.

When I press one of the buttons on the 'Test Remote' function, I see a '.LIGHT DIM' command in the top left corner.

From what I can tell, it seems like things aren't working as expected or I am completely missing a configuration option. Any thoughts on what I should try?

When entering commands in for instance a Start Activities command list, you would add a command to your Vera where Parameter 1 is your Device Number from the Vera and Parameter 2 is the desired brightness level (some commands such as LIGHT ON or LIGHT OFF don't take a second parameter as the brightness is implicit.

Thanks for the feedback. I had looked around in the Macro settings, but I may have just completely missed the option. I will take a look and report back.

Thanks for the feedback. I realize now that I just skipped past the "Integration ID" field as I didn't know what it meant. After reading your message and then poking around the Vera's web page, I was able to find the appropriate settings.

For anyone else who finds this message, you must first setup the Vera as a device in the room, then setup an activity. When setting up the activity, you will choose to manually add a command, select the MiCasaVerde Lighting, then choose a command category (eg: .LIGHT DIM, .LIGHT ON).

This is where I got confused as I expected the list of commands to specifically show all of my devices... I realize now that this list of commands is just the generic command and the next step is where you identify the device. After selecting the .LIGHT DIM command, you will be presented with a screen which has fields open for the 'Integration ID' and the 'Brightness'. The 'Integration ID' is the ID listed under the 'Advanced' tab of the devices settings from within the Vera UI -- I was initially confused by this as well because I was using the ID shown under the 'Settings' tab which is actually the 'altid' in the 'Advanced' tab. With a dimmable command (.LIGHT DIM) you will have the option to enter a brightness level between 0-100.

Note that the lighting commands can also be included in existing activities by entering into edit mode and editing the activity you want. This way you can have your home theater lighting automatically dim when you choose you 'Watch Movie' activity.

running a vera 3 here, Roomie 1.7 also did not auto-discover it. When i entered the IP manually it was able to connect and control it. Please let me know if there is any info i can provide to help debug the auto-discovery, happy to help. Thanks.

Roomie 1.7.1 released a few minutes ago might help wi...

2012

On some models, you may need to activate serial I/O via the service menu.

wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/Service_Menu

Was told by Samsung support that this was unnecessary. Also when I went into the service menus via the 182 method, there was no option under any menu that I could see for RS232...

Other options?

We suspect there is more to this topic that really would best be advised by Samsung support. We have a general FAQ for resolving serial issues here:

Diagnostics

The most notable common issues are of course the baud rate and the cable.

must amend my prior statement, I found the RS232 menu option. No luck, but will proceed working through the FAQ. My apologies for not searching better.

As an aside but limited, I noticed there was a Wake on LAN command when using IP control. Are you aware of any nuances with using this feature?

We're not aware of Wake on LAN working with any Samsung TVs. Please let us know if you find anything to the contrary. We're always hopeful that perhaps their 2013 models that should be announced in a couple of weeks might finally bring their IP control up to par. The IP compatibility list shows various brands/models of devices that respond to Wake on LAN from Roomie.

Oh well… The baud was the correct issue. Sadly my direct question of Samsung Support yielded a "no special baud settings" response. At least the RS232 port enablement was not required as was instructed by them.



Thank you for the help.

2012

I am no noob but I am finding the disconnected instructions on how to add a device that isn't in the library very confusing. I have a BT Vision set top box by Pace and have tried all the Pace devices in the library (including all the diagnostic instructions) to no avail.

So I have tried learning commands using the iLearn app which produced a text file - so far so good. I then downloaded the DDK and tried editing the plist file but if i backup my configuration from the IOS app to dropbox, none of the XML editors i have tried will open the plist file generated by the app (I don't have a mac so can't use xcode). I also see lots of references to the Roomiecodes.plist file but it appears that it has been superceded by the simpler roomie.plist file.

Given that BT Vision has nearly a million subscribers in the UK, if i generated a text file full of IR codes from iLearn, do you think you could add the device to the library for me?

I am using the iPad app with both the IR pack and Home theater pack upgrades for use with a Sharp TV, Onkyo receiver and xbox 360 as well as the aforementioned BT Vision box.

Appreciate the help.

Gary

The file should be roomiecodes.plist.
You should find a template for this file in the DDK (I think that's where I found it).
At least this worked for me.

I am struggeling to get an editor working, What is a good XML editor to use for windows?

Hi Guys, for those running windows, I had a similar issue finding an XML editor that a) worked and b) was free. I finally came across EditiX 2008 by a company called japisoft.com, they have a full paid version but for home use there is a free download, and it seems to do the job for me.

As for Gary's original post I'll help out where I can.

Regardless if you are using dropbox or icloud/itunes, it should be the same process (but don't quote me on that, I'm using dropbox so I know these instructions work).

start by linking to one of the available backup locations (as above) and backup from your devive to here.

This should create a folder called Roomie and within this folder you should see 3 .plist files.

The next step (asuming you have downloaded the DDK and installed a suitable XML editor) is to open up the roomiecodes.plist file using your xml editor, the roomiecodes.plist file can be found the the DDK files you downloaded and then in this case the IR folder. You will notice that there is also a template version here. If you are using EditiX you can open up both files together side by side which was useful for me as I used the template as a reference when I first started. (ps. because a .plist file isn't an xml recognised extension change the file type to 'all files' in order to see the file(s) you need to open)

Though the contents of the file can look daunting it is fairly straight forward. Each key/string line will relate to 1 button press/ir command.

pretty much all you need to do is copy and paste the coding from the fi...

2012

Question: I am thinking about upgrading my SC-25 av receiver since its live feedback is very limited. Any suggestion which av receiver has the most complete feedback set that I can consider?

Staff response: I had a Denon 3311 and had tons of HDCP handshake problems, sent in for repair 3 times and was never resolved. Sold it and bought a Marantz and absolutely love it, no problems at all. Full IP feedback too. Both companies are owned by D&M holdings btw, yet the Marantz gave me no problems.

Also, if you've never heard of Audyssey, look into it, IMO it's worth going with any receiver that has it. Made a HUGE difference in my HT room.

2012

I am about to purchase the sharp 90 inch LED TV model number LC90LEC45U. I could not find it under the IP supported devices. i noticed some of the 80 inch models were covered. Is there no support for this and is there support for a 90 inch LED



Thank you

Would you check the model number on that? Google has not heard of that and neither have we, so we're betting there is a typo in your model number which is probably why you're not finding it.

Sorry about that. Correct number is 90LE745U

The 745U series is on the supported list.

2012

You can't launch apps inside apps on iOS. So using a URL scheme does not make any sense in the context of opening within Roomie. We cover this more in the FAQ:
Local Network Control API (HTTP Command Interface)

I don't think that was the answer he was looking for. To be more specific, my settings on an iPad for a given Activity

"Start Commands" then
Type: "URL"
URL: "remote://"
Opens: "in Safari"

This also works just fine on my iPhone, for some reason it took my phone about 10 seconds to launch the Remote app.

I know I can open the remote app inside roomie through safari but the problem with that is that if I want to go back to my receiver and change the volume, I will lose the remote app in safari and have to relaunch it again to get to the remote app. I wanted to be able to switch between them without closing and reopening them again.

Right, that's what we read from your first post so the information in the third post does not apply. Please see our original post.

2012

I'm trying to set up an XBMC action, but the commands available for XBMC are really limited.

I noticed the command .KEY DOWN and thought maybe that maybe it sends key presses (like XBMC Commander). I created a few buttons and put letters in Parameter 1 for keystrokes, but it doesn't seem to work.

What are the .KEY DOWN and .KEY DEL commands for???

Is there any way to extend the commands available, as the set provided is pretty simple?
Is it possible to edit the existing configuration using the Roomie Device Development Kit?

We're happy to send you the XBMC command set to edit at will if you'd like. Just email support.

Note that .KEY DOWN in XBMC requires the XBMC key format which is documented here under the SendKey() command:

wiki.xbmc.org/?title=WebServerHTTP-API

Thanks for that!

What does the ".KEY DEL" command do?

In the XBMC set, the .KEY DELETE command sends 0xF108 as the key down value which is equivalent to ASCII 8 which is backspace.

2012

I have my receiver set up to control volume on all devices. However, when I bring up my Toshiba DVD player, there is not a button for volume. Resolution?

Sounds like you're not using Activities and probably are accessing the remote directly. We recommend watching the Tutorial video linked on the right sidebar of this page that goes into detail about how to create Devices and Activities.

That is not the case. I am setting up activities for each device, and I use the activity to begin the function. The control for both my cable and apple tv have volume, this control does not.

We can only make guesses from your description. Emailing your configuration to support would be a much better way to determine the configuration issue.

2012

Hello,
I have several clients using Roomie-they love it.
Is there a way for me to link multiple instances to the same dropbox?
Say a client adds a new piece of equipment and needs their remote updated. I could pull down their configuration to my ios device, make the change and back it up. Is this possible?

Sure, just use the same Dropbox account on all of the devices you want to share configurations.

Here is the scenario. I have 5 distinct clients each having their own equipment and configurations. I want to be able to update each unique configuration remotely. How can I have 5 different people and configurations tied to the same dropbox?

You need to establish a Dropbox for each client of course. You wouldn't share one between clients.

2012

Getting Started & Architecture

Trying to control my JVC NZ8 (RS3100] via IP on Roomie Remote. I had this setup a while back and it worked great. I had a short stint with another remote from a dealer friend of mine he wanted me to try out which had been less than stellar so I came back but now it won’t control it with the same settings I used before.

JVC IP AUTH
static IP Port 20554
network identifier: PASSWORD 10 (is this where it goes?)
MAC address

ive been on the same JVC formware 3.00 since before roomie so I doubt it’s a new firmware thing.

any help appreciated

There are 4 JVC projector code sets: Normal, Serial, Auth, and Hashed. PASSWORD10 is set on the projector itself, you don't ever need to type that into Roomie. I'm not sure which set applies to your projector, but it's safe to say this topic has been covered many times in detail in this forum so likely just searching your model number can reveal that. But regardless, just trying each should match on one assuming the settings are correct on the projector. The Auth and Hashed code sets are the newer ones, so I would start with normal and you don't need to try Serial of course.

2025

So far most things are working fine in the initial V9 beta. I have one oddity that I'm not sure is a bug. The icons in the homebar for my Homekit lock and Homekit GarageDoor items flashes continuously. All the other Homekit type icons are new but fine (i.e. no flashing).

Jeff

I am "between" systems right now where I used to have locks and garage doors in HomeKit, but currently do not, so I am not surprised to hear that. I used to have myQ garage door integration via Homebridge, but they broke that. I used to use HomeKit locks, but Bluetooth was nonsense so I'm waiting for good Matter locks. Anyway, I don't have good test devices in these categories is the point.

What does the flashing look like? Different colors, or just sort of an on/off?

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P.S. I now use the "RATGDO v2.5-series WiFi control board" with native Homekit firmware ( ratgdo/homekit-ratgdo: A native HomeKit implementation of a Security+ 2.0 garage door controller based on ratgdo hardware (github.com) for my garage door. Works great.

Ordered one of those. This is easy to fix, but I should repro it to be sure of the fix. Anyway, this will be fixed soon.

Fixed.

Not completely. Now all of the Homekit homebar icons flash subtly. Also, if I drag the homebar to the left to expose the icon(s) on the right, at the next flash the homebar automatically goes back to the original position leaving the rightmost icon(s) inaccessible. See the attached video. The first movement is me dragging, the next is the "snap back".

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What weird thing is polluting your HomeKit environment? I can probably work around it, but obviously something is causing constant updates to your HomeKit accessories. I assume this is Homebridge or something like that?

I don't have anything weird that I know of. If I turn on diagnostics will you be able to see the homekit updates?

Sure, turn on Diags and wait for ~2 minutes then send. Do it on your Primary just to be sure it catches everything.

I did this (diag sent). But I think I found what it is. My Ring doorbell camera (via homekit) looked to be sending lots of updates when I looked at the diagnostics.

I turned on "Hide in Homebar" for that device and everything is back to normal on the Homebar.

Apparently that wasn't it. The flashing is back. I deleted the homekit camera devices from Roomie and restarted but the flashing is back. I sent updated diagnostics.

I guess I'll file a bug report to see if you can see what else is happening.

Unclear. In the most recent diagnostic, the chattiest device was the Nest Thermostat which isn't a HomeKit device so obviously something sketchy is blowing out your HomeKit with updates.

We have native Nest support that would work much better for you (modulo the 30 step setup process).

Is it always blinking or just for a few seconds when opening the app?

I'm not convinced that it's actually Homekit related. I powered off my Homekit hub (the Homepod mini), and the flashing actually started going much faster!

I just sent new diagnostics.

It's your Nest. See in that log how your faux-Kit Nest blows out everything every single second? That's "normal" in your HomeKit environment because of the bridge you setup to work with Nest. It's something to avoid.

We can definitely work around it though by ignoring identical updates. *(BTW Our internal Nest support is really beautiful and works very well, I use it with 9 thermostats, highly performant.)

I've added a bit of logging into the next build to help narrow down the best workaround.

I hadn't converted back to the cloud interface since homekit seemed to work. But I tried just now.

Got through all of the steps (although some screens have changed slightly). Then tried to add the google cloud service in Roomie. Got everything input, selected the buttons to allow access and to allow access to my thermostat. Then when I hit the allow button to add the service, roomie crashed !

I opened a feedback.

OK that crash won't happen anymore, but based on where it happened, it wasn't going to succeed anyway.

Was something else wrong?

It crashed inside Google returning an unexpected error code type for your authentication. So, regardless, your authentication was going to fail.

Any clues as to what went wrong? Do I need to delete everything from Google and start again?

The process is quite long, and generally the correct method is never "start again". You just keep revisiting the screens and comparing them to what you expect to see to find what was wrong. Try the next build and then we can see the error and know more. Since you say they made some changes to the screens, I will probably walk back through it at some point to update the steps too. I can say however that I use it daily, but obviously I don't start from scratch every day.

I have the latest build and now "pairing was unsuccessful" with no further information. Can I get more information? Turn on diagnostics?

P.S. As I reviewed the steps, step 25, the consent screen is confusing. Am I supposed to leave the app in test mode or "publish"?

Yes, just run the Diagnostics on the Primary across the period where you're trying to pair with Nest and send after it fails.

OK. One quick question that isn't clear in the instructions. Should the project be left in testing mode or "in production" on the oAuth consent screen?

Sent! Hopefully this swill show something useful.

Try 2871. Small chance it will fix it. But it also has better logging in the key area, so if it does not work then just do the same diagnostic.

2871 fixed it !

I captured and sent diagnostics anyway.

P.S. The weird homebar flashing is gone too!

2024

For the last few years, we have been adding various warnings/notices inside the Roomie Remote app for two scenarios:

* Your subscription is tied to the V5 (2016) or V4 (ancient) app. We have a way to try to recognize those for the moment, but in general V4 subs are currently hard-ending with many already final-expired, and V5 subs will hard-end soon. In other words, they will stop renewing automatically with no action on your part. As per the notices in the app for recent years, it is past time to migrate these to a modern subscription.

We are posting this here as a stickied reminder. Even though we have had many years of warnings and notices inside the app, some users don't do anything about these kinds of things until it's absolutely necessary. What that will mean if you do nothing is that all subs based on V4/5 will not work with V10 whereas modern subs (anything purchased from the current app with the Corral colored icon, V6 through V9) will. Perpetual will continue to require V9.

To determine your sub type, go to the Apple Settings app, iCloud Account, Subscriptions, and look for a Roomie Remote sub named "One Room Annual/Monthly", "Five Rooms Annual", or "Unlimited Annual/Monthly". If you have one of those, you are good to go when V10 launches. There are other older subscriptions that will also work, just make sure it's a subscription based from the Corral-colored app V6-V9. V10 requires a modern subscription purchased in either V6-V9, or obviously in V10.

If you have questions about this or don't know what kind of sub you have, please take advantage of the many months before V10 to ask support by using the in-app Submit Feedback button.

2024

Some quick Now Showing related announcements:

Recently we released Forced Orientation for Now Showing. This allows using any TV even if it does not support Portrait orientation as the app will now rotate the entire UI if configured to do so.

Tonight, we added the Apple TV as an additional platform. This may greatly decrease the cost of deploying Now Showing for many users. There is still no way to link directly to the tvOS App Store, so here is how to add that app below. Note that we recommend all configuration is performed in the iPhone, iPad, or Mac editions and then deployed via your network to the Apple TV edition.

The Quick Start guide has been updated for the latest additions:

https://roomieremote.com/support/nowshowing-quickstart/

2024

I've just uploaded a build to prime the pump for the TestFlight beta system. The first build uploaded takes a very long time to get approved and then suddenly gets approved without my intervention. Every subsequent build is then in our control. So I would suggest if you see this first build come through to skip it. Once it goes live, I will be posting a fresh build with appropriate instructions shortly thereafter.

Note that this build will of course require iOS 17. Initially, it will also be iOS only. We will at some point upload simultaneous betas for macOS and iOS, and possibly even tvOS.

Thanks! Initial V9 beta appeared in TestFlight a little while ago.

Jeff

2024

Question: Have latest beta but the weather does not appear on my homebar. Anything I have to do config wise ? I have the weather set up on the roomie ipad.

Staff response: Here are the requirements for Weather to run:

* Subscribed
* Location permissions granted and location has been determined
* Only the Primary retrieves location, all secondaries are subservient to Primary
* iOS 17+

If you meet the requirements, contact support.

Subscribed is presumably a given, in other words I'm just reading the code to you. The code makes sure you have purchased Roomie in some way.

2024

I wasn't able to find anything on the forms so I thought I would post the question.

I am currently switching from Harmony to RoomieRemote in my Home theater. I run a HTPC MadVR and I use Bluetooth on the Harmony to control it. Are there any options to control bluetooth devices with RR?

Thanks!

To clarify, you're trying to send keyboard/mouse commands to a PC? In general, apps exist for Windows or whatever OS you're using to receive such commands, so you would either use the existing set for whatever you use in Roomie or put in custom commands. But really, the better question is likely what app you're trying to control on Windows. For instance, Kodi is best controlled directly by Roomie and that's a common one for HTPCs.

Hey thanks for replying.

I have a HTPC running JRiver which is a media center kinda like the old windows media center. It goes full screen and on a Media remote I use the typical d-pad and enter /ok button and the chapter skip buttons. It is not used to control a mouse or keyboard functions.

I use JRiver because it is compatible with MadVR for video processing.

Right now the Harmony remote connects to windows 10 under Bluetooth and in windows it shows as Harmony Keyboard. But my Harmony is dead so I am not able to use them anymore which is why I have been building out RoomieRomote for my theater.

Trying to emulate Bluetooth sounds like a horrific solution.

MCE Controller looks like it still exists and works:

https://tig.github.io/mcec/

The codeset for that in Roomie is brand Microsoft type Media Player. That's the normal and correct way to send keyboard commands to Windows from back in the day when people used HTPCs.

Thank You Will!

2023

I’m trying to get a list of app names for AppleTV to use the app launch command.
There’s a built in log to allow you to see more detail but I’m struggling to access this log.
I’ve used the app list command and now want the detail using pinch to zoom log.

How do a see the log?

Pinch to Zoom was replaced by explicit access a year or so ago. Using an iPad or macOS, open Settings and tap Show Live Diagnostics and they open in their own window.

Thanks, sorted.

2023

Question: Ok - I'm really having a struggle. I have multiple devices that support media feedback and scrubbing via UPNP, however, they are not supported for feedback in Roomie, while other devices are... Is there any solution?

Devices are:
1) Dune HD Max Vision (Android Based) - I understand it's available via Kodi integration, but Kodi doesn't support Dolby Vision or even 4K, depending upon firmware
2) Emby (works on AppleTV but not on anything else)
3) Panasonic DP-UB9000P1K 4k Bluray Player

Can any...

Staff response: Android TV by itself doesn't support media feedback at all.
Dune is controlled by the Dune HD device type and does support scrubbing there.
Not familiar with Emby. Based on quick Google, it looks like another Kodi clone, so again our Kodi support has extensive media feedback and scrubbing assuming they kept the control protocol.
Pana 9000 has no media feedback in the official control protocol.

Sure, as documented our Dune support piggybacks off Kodi for a full media guide. Which would be totally separate (might also apply to Emby if it is basically Kodi). See Setup Guide which documents this.

Another way to interpret that is they end the Voice Control but release a firmware update to just let it work normally like everything else. It is by far the most convoluted control hack ever. However, multiple control systems including us rely upon the same thing, so I doubt they're just going to go dark without a path. The problem with Panasonic for literally 12 years has been finding any human being that knows any path or anything about their products. We'll see.

This is somewhat off topic, but I will reply to some basics that end up relevant to Roomie's support for these things.

Definitely the idea is not to run Kodi on the Dune box. It is assumed Kodi runs on some appropriate, separate system, and that both Kodi and Dune target the same SMB location most commonly located on a NAS. Examples of the Kodi box might include a PC that exists simply to provide Kodi indexing, or an nVidia Shield (I use the latter most commonly to index media, but rarely use the Shield to play something.)

Dune's internal media browser isn't powerful enough for us to build a full Media Guide. Fortunately, Zidoo came along and provided an interface that was powerful enough to build what is probably the second best Media Guide after our Kaleidescape guide. Dune still works great if you use an outboard indexer like Kodi. As far as playback, the differences between Dune and Zidoo are difficult to distinguish and vary periodically. I would consider other paths to integrate with Dune, but they do not themselves provide it, so for now Kodi was the most obvious choice.

Any media client used as a playback device like Kodi, Plex, Emby, etc. seems like a uniquely questionable choice to me if the priority is DV HDR. I would stick with either Zidoo or Dune on those fronts, it's mostly about the hardware/chip, and I'm sure you know that's just the beginning of that topic.

You have a high opinion of UPnP and DLNA. My advice is to remove those words from your lexicon. They are ancient and virtually unused protocols from 10+ years ago. UPnP is used for basic discovery on networks and that's about as far as the two of those things go these days. If a single product implements something related to those, it's less of an open solution than a custom solution masquerading as something open since nobody else uses it.

Kodi supports Atmos fine on Shield, but configuring Kodi Audio correctly can...

2023

Version 8.2 has just gone live on the App Store. It includes new widgets designed in the new style and framework, no longer relegated to the bottom of the widget list with other old widgets, these are hot off the presses, can go right on your Home Screen.

The old widget has now been fully deprecated/replaced by these new widgets. If you have any thoughts/comments/suggestions, please feel free to let us know. There are certainly ways we could take this supporting other sizes or other groups of information, but at this point collecting that feedback would be the most useful thing.

Note that the reason the very small sizes are not supported is that they do not support granular taps. In other words, each of those regions in the screenshot above is tappable at this size. Any smaller loses that. We can however go to the bigger sizes easily.

Also note that these new widgets are fully enabled on macOS as well.

Enjoy and Happy Holidays!

Two questions:

1. The Roomie widgets on my iPhone 14pro have very washed out backgrounds, the black is almost a grey and makes it a little hard to read. Other widgets like AppleTV look fine. Is there any way to adjust the colors?

2. Since Lutron doesn't provide widgets, it would be great to have widgets for the lighting controls for the theater along with activities, so I don't have to flip between two apps. Is this possible?

Here is a screenshot. The picture looks a lot better than the phone display.

It's a little too bright in that screenshot. Looks like a problem specific to Light Mode. I run in Dark Mode all the time so probably missed that. Notice my screenshot does not look like that. That's Dark Mode.

Whatever you changed, it looks much better now. Deep dark black background.

2022

When I power off my living room (turn off LG OLED TV, Yamaha receiver, etc.), I would like the Apple TV to power down as well. Right now, there is a Roomie command “Long Press Home,” which brings up an option on the Apple TV to “Sleep all devices.” Then, I use the Roomie command “Cursor Enter,” which works on the remote interface, but doesn’t work during the shutdown routine. Does anybody know why “Cursor Enter” doesn’t work, or know of another way to turn off the Apple TV. The problem is that the new LG OLED just pops right back on if there is still a signal from the Apple TV. I’ve disabled all of the CEC settings in my system, but I just can’t get the thing to go off and stay off.

My suggestion is that powering off Apple TV is a huge waste of time. It's really not designed for it and it's basically a joke. Fixing the HDMI-CEC issue that is auto-powering your LG should be significantly easier. That's just a matter of checking your settings on the TV and Apple TV.

Right after replying to your response, I deleted and reinstalled the LG TV in Roomie. The prompted me to enter a pairing code, and now everything works. Not sure why the TV didn’t do that the first time, but at least it’s fixed now!

2022

Hello, is it possible to edit the backup file in Windows, or do you need to be on MacOS and use BBedit?

The point is it should be a programmer's text editor, not Microsoft Notepad. The free Visual Studio comes to mind as likely just fine.

2022

I need to be able to control which order and timing of how my devices are turned on. Specifically, I need to wake my HTPC last, after my receiver and TV are turned on. There doesn't seem to be any way to do this, unless I am missing something obvious.

The delay command only seems to work within a device, not globally. I thought of trying to add a dummy command first, then a 2s delay, then the WOL command to my HTPC, but Simpleremote for some reason forces the WOL command first, no matter what I do. I also tried adding another WOL command with no mac address first, then delay, then the WOL with correct mac address, but it still wakes up the HTPC too early.

Any help is appreciated.

WoL is not in a pipeline, not a protocol it's a layer 2 signal, so it's always first. Except that only applies in a particular activity command sequence. So if you really needed to delay a WoL command, you would put it into its own Activity and put a delay the Start Activity command.

eg: + Start Another Activity, choose Activity "Wake HTPC", add a Delay Activity command to that.

2022

Howdy,

I recently followed the new Google Nest integration instructions posted here: Google Nest thermostat setup

I have several iOS devices (iPad, iPhone, etc.) and found the process, while detailed, accurate.
Thank you. I completed the task on my iPad and am able to view and adjust my Nest thermostats, however it has not sync'd over to my iPhone.
It's been several days and I've re-started the app and phone with no success.

Do I need to follow steps 28+ on my other devices?

TIA

Definitely don't go through the Nest process again. To resolve sync issues, these steps will ensure every base is covered:
Sync or purchase restoration

2022

Roomie Remote is expanding its app portfolio shortly!

Anyone ever wanted to have a live movie poster in front of their home theater? Mount a Samsung Frame vertically hooked up to a Mac mini to show upcoming movies, show the current movie playing with live feedback using high quality movie poster artwork fully integrated with Roomie so that every media player has progress, artwork, titles, etc. Or Airplay it from an iPhone or iPad, or use iPadOS 16.2's new multiple monitor support to drive a vertical monitor. Or just wallmount an iPad as the display. Whichever way you choose on whichever platform you choose, this new app can take your home theater to the next level.

We have been using and developing this app for some time and we feel it's almost ready to productize. If this idea is something you would be interested in, send a message to support@roomieremote.com to ask for TestFlight access. It's not available yet, but will be soon. Top 10 contributing beta testers will be granted a free year's subscription when the app is released.

2022

Had a Hisense tv to test for a minute, it works tcp with the android device but power is just a toggle. The roku tvs work great, power on/off via tcp even the cheap tvs. Is it possible to discrete power control the android tvs? Cheaper tvs make sense in less demanding applications like garage, etc and the TCL rokus work great but picture isn't the brightest/best obviously.

I have an lg oled that works wol over tcp but after power loss it has to be turned on once with the remote. Do other wol tvs have this issue? Like sony, samsung, etc? Or will they wake the first time?

2022

Are beta test versions available for Mac OS?

We have not sent betas to TestFlight macOS as it's very new and the user base is much smaller. What would be the benefit of that right now? In general, when we get to bigger betas that usually arrive in Summers, we would probably do that this year.

Thanks! I figured that was the case but I thought I'd ask.

2022

Question: First of all, I love the idea and straightforward execution. This sort of thing, like Intercom, makes the Roomie experience second to none. No matter how niche.

Most of my testing has been done with Roomie and Now Showing on several 16.2 iOS and iPadOS devices. I did see one crash of Roomie on a iPhone 14 Pro Max on 16.2 during initial setup of Now Showing, but that appears to be an isolated occurrence. Apple TV integration feels seamless no matter the app. Quickly tested ATV+, Netflix, HBO Ma...

Staff response: I actually don't have a good sample library of 16:9 posters. Basically every poster I find on many sites is 1:1.5 (usually 2,000 x 3,000). Sometimes I have found higher on cinematerial.com. So anyway, because I haven't found any, I haven't optimized for 16:9 display and instead the top and bottom bars are always in place.

What I'd like is not only full 2,160 x 3,840 artwork, but HDR metadata in the image. If I could get some test images like that, I'm pretty sure we can just now in either iOS 16.1 or 16.2 and Ventura activate the HDR components.

Anyway, your suggestions are pretty much going right onto the to do list. Those and many others are planned.

Just for clarity what I would want is 9:16 not 16:9. What we pull from an AppleTV or most devices is 16:9 so mostly useless. Kaleidescape is a rare exception where not only is the image 1:1.5, but they offer a high-res version.

2022

I have been using Roomie successfully to turn on and control my LG oled tv. Recently, the 2019 tv updated to 05.30.10 and I lost the ability to turn on the tv. I tried disable relay and that didn’t help. Is there any fix other than an IR solution? Super frustrating to have lost this capability.

Not seeing any support tickets on that topic, so I would guess not. In general, assuming no issue here, this thread may be deleted at some point as it is clearly a support ticket, but leaving this up to gather data in case others do have that issue. Make sure to include your model in such tickets, and how you hooked up your TV to your network.

The basic suggestion is very common. Something broke and user therefore blames whatever last seemed to change. Meanwhile, nothing has changed related to this since LG added Wake on LAN in 2016, and no issues have been reported.

So, more likely, the issue here is something like (this is just a partial list):

* iOS 14.5 Beta changes network permissions in such a way that Wake on LAN does not work and a bunch of other stuff doesn't either. A Roomie update will be required for iOS 14.5 and we're on track to release that well before real users run iOS 14.5. So definitely do not run iOS betas right now.
* The most confusing thing for most users over time is that their TV has 2 MAC Addresses, one for Wi-Fi and one for Ethernet. Not making sure the correct one is entered into the command is a common error.
* Depending on your model of LG TV, there are settings that need to be turned on in order for Wake on LAN to work. One of those is Settings / General / Mobile TV On and set "Turn on via Wi-Fi" to ON. Another is "Quick Start+".
* Make sure to authorize your iOS device for LG TV control while the TV is on before using Wake on LAN.

MAC address was wrong even though I am only using wireless. Feel free to delete thread. Thanks!

2021

I have a new TU7000 Samsung TV and the roomie app doesn't discover it. It has a direct Ethernet connection and is on my network. Is there a setting I need to make on the TV or what port should I use?

Greg

* Restart your TV, iOS device, and Wi-Fi Router.
* Try again.
* Check basic discovery attributes for your network:
Community Knowledge Base
* If all else fails, just add it manually on port 8002. Choose Samsung and then "2018-2020 Models".

2021

I want to confirm the correct setup for the Preferred Primary controller. I have an iPad Pro in the theater that is always on, in Guided Access mode, and it's defined in the Homes tab on the Preferred Primary. I have an iPad Air in the family room to control another system. I also keep it in Guided Access mode just to keep someone from messing around with it and getting out of Roomie. It is also always on. In the Homes tab on this iPad the theater iPad is properly defined as the Preferred Primary.

This this the correct way to set these up? I ask because I've been getting some strange behavior with the family room Roomie recently.

Strange behavior what exactly are you seeing I have 5 IOS devices iPads/iPhone all pointed to one master/primary....and all set up as locked (other than few) only for that room control...The only unusual thing I see is other than the master and other room locked devices my personal iPAD and iPhone they are not always directed to the master iPAD...keep toggling between Default, Local device and master/primary iPad.

Control over one of the TV streaming boxes (ATT TV which is essentially an Android TV box, so I added it as a Fire TV) stopped working from the family room ipad. I tried everything including deleting and re-adding the device multiple times, deleting the activity and nothing worked. Then I brought in the Preferred Primary ipad from the theater, deleted the ATT TV device, added it again, updated the activity and it worked. I then was able to use the activity on the family room iPad again.

Not sure what’s causing the issue sorry but I think primary device setup is the way it should be.

Thanks for confirming.

2021

I have started migrating my Roomie functionality from Alexa to Siri Shortcuts once I discovered That Roomie has a very powerful Shortcuts integration. I especially like that I can access the shortcuts using Siri voice activation using my Apple watch. I was looking into ways to access the shortcuts from my Macs when I discovered that MacOS 12 has full Shortcuts support. The app is installed by default and syncs with the IOS version. So shortcuts is turning out to be a very powerful tool that's easier to implement than Alexa.

Sounds super interesting. I’d love to see an example of one you created and understand how you did it if you don’t mind sharing please.

It's pretty easy to configure. Here's a screenshot example of the Shortcuts app. The Shortcuts command is "Start TV Room", which tells Roomie Remote to start an activity named "Watch Amazon" in the room "TVRoom".

From my watch, I touch the winder button and say "start TV Room". From my mac, I press a hotkey and say the same.

Shortcuts can be much more complicated involving multiple commands, and doing all sorts of things like running scripts on the mac, but this is all I needed to get the Siri support I wanted.

BTW, although Shortcuts is now supported by the mac and responds to mac based Siri commands, I've found that I can only edit the Shortcuts on an IOS device.

Thank you, got 'em working!

I’m trying to use the AppleTV to trigger a Shortcut but it only seems to work when my iPhone is present (shortcut was created on it). Am I missing something?

Has anyone figured out how to use the “.VOICE COMMAND” action in the Shortcuts app? It does trigger the Siri command on Apple TV, however I can’t figure out how to record the spoken action and insert it into the shortcut action. I know you can do this directly from within the Roomie app, however in this case I need to do it from within the Shortcuts app…

2021

Will Roomie Remote support Google TV? Roomie Remote recognizes the Chromecast Google TV device. However, the device user interface (UI) is the one used for Chromecast which only has a Volume control. Chromecast Google TV uses a remote control and required a UI similar to Roku. Will there be an upgrade UI for Google TV or is there a workaround?

I assume that's the one they just introduced. I read that it is now just an Android TV. Assuming that is the case, you may be able to add it on port 5555 using the Amazon FireTV or nVidia Shield code sets. You will also need to find where to turn on ADB/developer mode of course.

Has anyone had luck adding a new Google TV with chromecast using either the Shield or Fire TV codes manually? I have not, and did enable developer mode on the Google TV via the clicking 7 times on the OS version process.

I really like the device but without Roomie support, it’s hard to introduce to the family. I’d love to hear if anyone else has figured this out.

I just got one myself so I can cast Oculus sessions to my TV. Initially it was discovered as an Android TV but now will not auto discover. Neither the FireTV or Shield codes work on port 5555. Roomie moderators - any thoughts on this device?

2020

I have an Optoma UHD52ALV 4K projector and was surprised to see there are no Optoma products at all on the list of supported devices. I want to integrate it into my Roomie Remote 6 system and can't figure out the best way to do it.
The projector has Ethernet, WiFi and Serial ports, and the specs say it supports network control (it mentions Extron IP Link, AMX dynamic device discovery and PJ-Link protocols).
Could I use the DDK to create a custom IP device and, if so, should I do it using HTTP or TCP?
I would love to make it work without having to buy another iTach adapter if possible, but if that ends up being the best way to do it I'm open to it, but still need to figure out if I do IR or Serial.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Mauro

I believe in support tickets users have many times used the Epson PJ-Link codeset for this without issue. Should be the same.

Thanks for the reply.
Just to clarify, PJ link codeset through TCP or HTTP? (First time creating a custom device after many years of using Roomie :-))

It's an existing codeset. You don't create it. You just use it.

I got this working with an Optoma UHD60. Enter the IP address, us the PJ-Link codeset, and it's TCP port 4352.

The available commands are pretty limited, but it has power off which is half of what I wanted. The power on command doesn't work; I don't think that's Roomie's fault; as far as I can tell this projector has no network presence whatsoever when it's powered off, and it's not listening for the power on command. No "standby with ethernet active" or anything like that. If anyone knows a setting to make this work, I'd love to know.

2020

Ios Shortcuts allows creation of a shortcut to open specific apps on the apple tv. Any way to add buttons in a rooms activity panel to launch a shortcut to open an apple tv app?

.VOICE COMMAND is far more powerful than that. Anything you can do with Siri, we can pass to Apple TV.

💥💥💥ty!!

2020

In the latest release notes for Roomie Remote 6.4 (Mac) say "Remember Alexa-specific room instead of overlapping the current room of the device."

This looks very interesting, but I wanted to confirm that this does what I think... does this mean that once I set a Simple Control room in Roomie via Alexa in a given room that this setting will be remembered only for this Alexa device and other Echo's in other rooms can have the room set separately and remember it?

If so, this would be awesome. Cheers.

There is only one Alexa. Whatever Alexa room you set is the room for all Alexas linked to your Amazon account. In previous Roomie versions, setting the room via Alexa shared its setting with whatever your room was on your Primary Controller. Now, setting a room in Alexa only applies to Alexa and thus your Primary Controller (which might for example be your Theater control) is not changed by it.

Thanks for the quick reply Will. Got it. Makes sense!

2020

Question: Loaded ios14. I do not see that roomie widget is available in the home screen widget options? Am I missing something?

Staff response: iOS 14 now has a sort of mini-widget style and the more traditional normal widgets. Almost all widgets are obviously the normal widgets, but some new mini widgets exist from Apple and they put them at the top. Anyway if you scroll down past those mini-widgets, you will find all of the normal widgets.

Jiggle mode is for mini widgets. Scroll down like I said or Google and you can probably find iOS help on how to manage widgets.

In other words, they work the same way they always did and do all the things they did before. Yes.

Meanwhile, the new mini-widgets have essentially no interactive capability and are only for things that have very infrequent updates like weather or calendar. So because they do almost nothing, they are able to put into places Apple is sensitive about such. If you have to update every second and have more than 1 button, the new mini-widget is not architecturally viable for now.

2020

Question: Anyone successfully discovered a Harmony Hub in the beta? Can you tell me what steps or process you used? I have 3 active Hubs in my house and can't auto discover any of them.

Staff response: Note you can't keep the discovery open and then later plug in your Harmony. The particular aspect of Harmony discovery requires a fresh start discovery. This, like essentially every other discovery process, requires that your network is setup normally to allow multicast, etc. The Harmony app uses the same discovery process.

(Don't rollback any betas, there have been no changes here.)

IP config should be irrelevant. Restarting Roomie, power cycling your iOS device, and opening a fresh discovery could be useful.

You can search for "ServiceBrowser: receivedDataOnListener" in the beta pinch to zoom out log to find Harmony replies. Possibly yours are configured in some way that we don't like. Paste such replies here.

Send the diagnostics so I can see them. No typo. If there are no responses from the Harmony Hubs, that is the particular circumstance where the issue is your network's handling of multicast packets – as controlled (the cause) by your router.

Not to say it is not solvable on our side, but basically your Harmony Hubs are not getting the broadcast because of the configuration of your network.

No, we're using the WebSockets method. The XMPP stuff has way too much crap/warnings in front of it and the Harmony app uses WS.

Your diags show no discovery so again this is your network. Technically, you can add Harmony manually but you need the serial number for the Hub. For now, we'll tweak discovery to be more aggressive in the next build so don't try to add manually.

Is anybody still seeing discovery issues with Harmony? We made some changes in the last couple of beta builds that should improve this. Please report ASAP whether you still have discovery issues with Harmony.

If you experience this issue, turn on Collect Diagnostics, restart the app or your iOS device, run Roomie and open the Devices panel, Add Device via auto-discovery, and then let it sit for 45 seconds or so. Then Send Diagnostics and submit a ticket to let us know you sent them. Make sure your Harmony devices are on the same Wi-Fi network when you do the discovery obviously.

Also, try 2101 just released first.

2020

Post:
What is your recommendation for reliable homekit outlets/plugs to use with roomie remote(simplecontrol)?

I've got wemo minis with the firmware upgraded to support homekit but i find them unreliable, connectivity issues and sometimes it works in the wemo app but not in the home app, seems sporadic . My wifi is solid, its a ubiquiti system and i've got excellent coverage through the house, so im looking for an alternative.

Right now im looking at the new hue smart plug and ikea outlet and gateway, anyone got any other suggestions?

Post:
VOCOlinc Smart Plug Wi-Fi Mini Outlet Socket Works with HomeKit (iOS12 or +) Alexa & Google Assistant Timer No Hub Required 15A 1800W 2.4GHz Smartbar(1 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LDTJZ8R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OTIUDbXV9VHQS

I’ve had good luck with these. They actually control my landscape lighting.

Very few “no responses” over the 6+ months I’ve had them. I was actually surprised they survived the summer heat.

2019

Suggestion to add activities (like the Home app does) to 3D Touch when hard pressing the app icon.

On a related note, just discovered 3D Touch brings up the gesture pad when hard pressing the directional buttons in an activity remote!

Just in time for Apple to remove 3D touch in September from iPhone XI!

Actually, trying it out right now, I had no idea they bring up our Widget on 3D Touch with iOS 13 until now. That is awesome. But the Activities are too big. Maybe I should just shrink the Activities in the widget. The problem with adding them to Apple's menu is that people can have a lot of activities and they will easily overload the Apple menu. They menu works better for a fixed set of items. I can add a more button in the Widget. It looks like they won't let us go full size in that scenario.

Dang Apple...just when I start getting used to and using something! Widget has come up on iOS 12 for a while, and I thought that was cool/intentional, but luck is ok too!

How about just the Simple Home activities populating the 3D list?

2019

Question: In V6, will Apple TV still be an option as a primary controller that is always online?

Staff response: At the moment, it will not be available at release. That could change at any moment as it's not a lot of work to update it. In general, I think the dynamic nature of the primary at this point and the fact that iOS has several platform advantages over tvOS (better CPUs, real app storage without the 512KB limit imposed by tvOS, and more) leads me to want to encourage users to stick to iOS for this. Also, I just don't like the idea (and users basically hated it) of saying "go buy an Apple TV and don't use it for anything but running our server." While it was generally economical compared to alternatives, it is simply a far better architectural flow to have everything core based on iOS and supporting the concept of a central iOS device that is both primary and living room controller.

Yes, the macOS app is the entire app, and just like the iOS app it will be considered as an eligible Primary, or can be designated specifically as such.

Yes, as always on iOS, the app must be foreground, and you should definitely put the device into Guided Access to lock that in as extensively documented and signified throughout the product. Dedicated means dedicated.

You should really re-consider Siri. I'm only including Alexa because I don't think people are ready to make the conversion broadly, but it is crystal clear now in iOS 13 that Siri has passed Alexa in terms of functionality.

The point is you don't have to buy any Siri devices. HomePod is irrelevant. You already have them. They are your iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch. They are (for me and many others anyway) already everywhere or always with you. Nothing to pull out, you're already wearing it. I have a box with probably 15 Alexa devices from before we moved 6 months ago and have only put 1 back in place. There was simply no reason for it when Siri devices are already omni-present, even when I'm not home! This model simply is not something Alexa has approached.

I use the Alexa now in the Kitchen for adding to the Shopping list, and for testing. That's it.

I think users learn their ways/techniques, get used to them, and then it's very hard to change them, and they don't subsequently seek out how to do the same things with a different system (Siri) so the change is avoided. That does not change that Siri has factually passed Alexa on usability and functionality factors from most perspectives. There will always be valid counter-arguments like "oh but half my family is Android" or whatever. For such reasons, at this point we will leave Alexa in indefinitely. But if the voice assistant market were starting from the beginning today, Siri should win for any household that is more than just moderately Apple-based.

This is already in beta. Since you're posting in the beta forums, presumably you already have access to that as well.

It's not in beta so there's no need for it. The new Intercomm support is relevant only to iOS.

2019

Question: In the latest update it says SC can now add the Plex media guide.
Is this the same thing as before where it only works if you’re local to the Plex server?
I ask because I am not local to my Plex server and I followed the steps listed in the update notes and do not see the discover Plex option.

Staff response: If you're looking in the right place, the "Discover Plex" button will be there no matter what even if you don't have Plex anywhere. It's in the Advanced panel of the Apple TV device.

Whether it then discovers Plex on the local Apple TV requires that Plex is running and everything related to it such as your Plex Pass, latest versions, etc is working. Whether your PMS needs to be local I'm not sure about, you may be able to complete the process with a remote PMS as long as the Apple TV Plex app is running locally. We do support remote-only PMS in other scenarios so it seems like that would work here as well.

To see the button, you need some kind of recognizable Plex running on the local network. In the end, it doesn't need to be the PMS you want to use though.

So run a PMS somewhere? That takes about 3 seconds to setup.

2019

Question: I just ordered an apple tv 4K for a room. Before it arrives and i set it up for the first time i would like to know if there is a way to launch apps directly like you can roku channels or the .launch on fire stick and nvidia shield.

Staff response: There were fixes here in 6.1.0. We believe this area now works well based on user reports and our testing. You should now be able to launch ATV apps (or issue whatever other voice commands to ATV4) from Activity Start commands, or from custom buttons without issue.

2019

Question: I'm running V6 Beta and recently upgraded mac mini to catalina. I got the new music app that replaces iTunes. Look like you can't control it via roomie anymore. I see no option to pair a remote , etc.

Staff response: Yeah, it's not iTunes and that's all she wrote AFAIK.

This was fixed in 10.15.2. See the Compatibility list. Works just like iTunes now. Didn't even require us to make changes.

That sounds unrelated and off-topic. But briefly: If you want to control some finer aspect of a macOS device, use Remote Buddy 2. They probably still run AppleScripts. We added support for their new Catalina release in 6.0.7. Given Apple's direction strongly away from AppleScript, we would not put any effort into it. I wouldn't be surprised to see AppleScript dropped in 10.16 in favor of global Shortcuts support.

2019

Question: Have seen some mention of a macOS app in the beta description. Will this app require macOS Catalina? If not, I'm happy to test now with a particular focus on triggering commands from external systems via the HTTP Activity & Device Command Interface. Thx.

Staff response: We could put it into beta, but who is actually running Catalina betas? It definitely requires that. It seems to work just fine. Modulo Apple has not yet added some important functionality such as HomeKit support. We'll release it anyway and I guess they'll add it in a future beta or 10.16.

The mystery there is that the Home app was so important, it was the first app they ported back in 10.14. My guess is that they used some broken/halfway APIs to do it so early, and now it's in some kind of limbo that causes it to be unready for Catalina. I don't know. Anyway, for the moment, HomeKit is not possible for Catalyst apps. One presumes that will change at some point. In my world, they should do that immediately. But who knows.

2019

I need to lear IR commands. Both the setup guide and a SC service tech refer to a "Code sets" setting.
I does not exist on the app. am I missing something?

Learning IR devices is very rare at this point, and more than 75% of the time, users were learning devices when actually the better and more correct codes were already in our library. For this reason, the option to learn will be hidden until you add at least one 1 device normally.

2018

I've added some shortcuts from within the SimpleControl app, however, they do not show up as expected in the Shortcuts app for the purpose of building Macros. Is this expected behavior?

The way Shortcuts looks things up certainly could use improvement. It looks like there is a static list of Apple commands, and then there is anything donated from an app to the system (normally used to show Siri Suggestions).

To avoid clutter, we only donate Start and Stop Activity intents. So once you use one, you will see that in the suggestions list in Shortcuts. However, that leaves pause/unpause/mute/unmute unavailable in Shortcuts (AFAIK). Obviously, the solution to this is for Shortcuts to show the actual list of commands that is available to the system rather than have every app clutter the Suggestions list with every possible intent.

In any case, for now I'm drawing a rough line where I think mostly people will use activity Intents (which I know is factual based on analytics from Alexa) and thus only donating those to Suggestions.

2018

Hi

I understand Simple can control Plex when it runs on a Mac (or PC, I presume). I was able to do that on my mac, with my media residing on a QNAP NAS.
However I mostly run plex on my aTV4, and was wondering if it can be done there? Both PMP and aTV has its own control, but...

on the same token, any way to control Netflix app on aTV (or mac?)

thanks
Balazs

What we are compatible with is Plex Media Player and the old Plex Home Theater. Exactly which editions of their product Plex offers on each platform varies widely. I do know that nVidia Shield for instance is a full Plex Media Player client (in addition to most other platforms). I'm not sure if they have upgraded their ATV app yet.

2017

Apple's new Airplay 2 is hinting at multi-room support and perhaps integration between ATVs and HomePods.

How does SimpleControl fit into this?

For example, if someone says to his HomePod, "play album X in the living room and family room," that may get the ATVs in those rooms playing the right content. But, ideally, SimpleControl would get some kind of notification from AirPlay2 (if possible) and switch on ATVs and receivers in those rooms.

A bit too early to say. Right now HomePod wont even run apps, so its Siri integration would be significantly inferior to that on normal iOS devices. Of course, it's also 6+ months away, so anything can still change.

Yet, the last pattern like this was the introduction of Apple TV which was presented to developers as a new platform in June and shipped to users in late Fall. Thus, one would have thought Apple would pre-announce the ability for apps to run on HomePod if they intended to do so in the next ~9 months because it takes developers a long time to build such apps. So there is every reason to believe HomePod will not have Serious Siri integration until at least June 2018 (next WWDC when Apple would traditionally make such large developer-related announcements).

Specifically though to your question, there are other APIs related to Apple Music and such that are rumored to be announced this week that may relate to specific AirPlay/Apple Music scenarios, and we'll evaluate all those things. Since such APIs would be used from an iOS device unlike the Siri API HomePod gap, it's quite possible there are things to explore there.

2017

I'm going to start by saying I really like the v5 design and approach, it was easy to get a multiroom system to a basic working situation while learning everything. A few hours and I've got distributed hdmi switcher and four rooms where it works and is reliable, that's not available anywhere else that I know of. Coming from other software or my configuration of it I have a few small suggestions that might improve the v5 UI.

- When in an activity, a long hold on the activity name at the top could re-send the commands to start the activity (currently you need to go back to the room's screen and long hold, and extra push). With multiple people in the room with clients, the source gets changed but your remote is still on the old source.

- it might be helpful to have channel up down buttons be part of the default tv layout.

- In iRule I had configured that a swipe up or down in the tv remote would be a channel up or down, not really for the actual channel up or down but for use while in the guide. Here a one finger swipe moves the screen so I wondered if a two finger gesture could be used to do this? In fios and I think same in the satellite systems, channel down is page down and this is a little weird if you try to use the gesture to change channels because channel down would be a swipe down but again this is mainly used for the guide, for those who prefer to use the guide in the set top box (where you can record, etc)

- in an activity swipe left doesn't have function. what would be really cool here would be a configurable panel that overlays the activity on one side (like in ios where you can swipe and have your email pop up on the right side) where you could customize the deeper function buttons for that activity, like combine the avr source, status, surround modes, etc, whatever you wanted. I really, really like the current logo menu where the deep functions are located because that is a regular problem with most programmable remotes (that they are not available or you have to do all kinds of programming to make them available), this would just extend and customize that idea.

2017

Question: Will and team,

It would be great to extend the functionality of the Sonos Guide to play an favorite or playlist with a single click in the Sonos Guide. It works with Pandora and Tune-In but does not work with Spotify and Amazon Prime Music which would be my first two services of choice. :smiley:

Thanks!

Dave

Staff response: Sonos has been saying for several years that they're going to add services to their API, but that has not happened. So every integration out there is hobbled in that area. The issue of Spotify is even greater as they allow no scenario when you can do anything but use their app, that's just a Spotify thing. Even HEOS and SoundTouch, which both provide more integration than Sonos, do not provide anything for Spotify other than exit to the Spotify app.

The .TRANSPORT SET and such commands do still work in ways that no other product I'm aware of enables.

If by stations, you mean Radio, that works fine. If you mean Sirius XM, that's different. Normal Sonos Internet radio works fine. The Music Library also works great. It is up to Sonos to allow services at this point. Indications are still positive FWIW. While this is the goal, it's also important to remember we are on iOS not some custom control platform. The Spotify app is one swipe away and can be multitasked right alongside Roomie.

I was just testing .TRANSPORT SET and .TRANSPORT QUEUE SET days ago. They work as well as they did before which means they work well with some services (Internet Radio, Music Library, Pandora, etc) and not at all with others (Spotify, etc). Favorites works well too within the bounds of the services that work. See my previous message above on that. Nothing has changed with regards to what Sonos offers in this area since that time. What you want is for Sonos to provide an API for service browsing and control, and that does not exist. Feel free to encourage them to provide that. What we provide remains equal to or greater than anything else AFAIK.

2017

Hi,

What are the plans for integrating Sky Q control? The rollout is starting to gain momentum in the UK...

Cheers
Matt

You will find prior threads on this topic. We remain interested in this and have had several solutions in the past that worked or at least were reported to work at a particular time.

If there is an official API or method for controlling their boxes now that anyone is aware of, please send it our way. We have not heard anything about it to date.

As we were discussing the lack of correct remote for SkyQ which I could be mistaken. It appears you can control the sky box by IP control. I am doing this communicating on port 49160

If you have a look at this node module set it gives you all the codes you need:

https://github.com/dalhundal/sky-remote/blob/master/sky-remote.js

Thanks to that user for his work!

Are control configurations something the userbase can work on. Who actually adds supports for new devices and can we add / test them?

I'd very much welcome IP control of Sky Q

You can purchase this:
https://www.keene.co.uk/keene-kiraq-networked-ir-and-rs232-control-for-sky-hd-and-sky-q-systems.html

And then use a blaster/global cache serial to send commands to it. Here is the code set I use:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdx0qvt8bteixtx/sky%20q%202gb%20via%20kiraq%20serial.plist?dl=0

Any update on Sky Q control from Roomie ??

Read my post above (Aug, '20). It is a complete solution.

Yes.....appreciate that and thank you for the code set I will probably go down that route.
Why do we need extra hardware, I can understand with rergards to my Lumagen video proccessor and my Meridian pre amp which are both I/R or RS232 but the sky box is on the network and you can use a simple remote app to control it without any other hardware. Can it not be controlled like the Apple TV
Do pardon my ignorance, but I am just trying to improve my understanding of how Roomi works

Connected the CTRL4SKY via Global Cache, loaded the above plist file, however I must have configured something incorrectly as the Sky box does not respond.
What are the main areas I should be looking at. Everything appears to be loaded correctly, just no response from button pushes.

Haven't touched it for a day......and suddenly it works as advertised !!!!

2016

I'm researching getting my Amazon Echo to work with Simple Control. My understanding is that this integration requires Simple Sync and that Simple Sync will run on a Simple Hub, a Mac computer, or an Android device. I have no experience with the Android ecosystem. What kind of Android device is required to run the Simple Sync software? Will it run on an Amazon Fire TV for example?

We've seen several users over time try to scrape the bottom of the barrel to solve that and it has not gone well. Custom Android builds, no-name hardware, etc. have turned out to be the cause of multiple issues we've seen in support. If you want to go the Android route, use a high quality Android build (Google, Samsung) with a popular Android device (Nexus, Tab, G6).

We do not currently customize the app for Amazon's app store. It's likely possible to run it anyway via sideload, but we do not test that so I don't recommend it.

A new option we introduced last week is to use Apple TV 4. The caveat there is that if you want to use it as Simple Hub, the app must always be running as the foreground app, so you would want a dedicated Apple TV for that purpose. Figure an Apple TV 4 is $149, Simple Hub for Apple TV is $19, and Simple Hub License is $49.99. For around $220 therefore, you can put together a non-Android solution. That's then your Simple Hub, don't plan on using it as your Apple TV. You then need to make sure to accept software updates and maintain the Apple TV over time. If there is a power outage, you need to start the app manually (or use a UPS).

Simple Hub itself therefore will be simplest for most users as it auto-updates, auto-starts, all automatically. I would strongly recommend Simple Hub for Mac, iOS, and Apple TV with a Simple Hub License over any Android device. Certainly, for users with an appropriate Mac that is running all the time, Simple Hub for Mac is also a great option, but is also much more expensive as a starting point of course.

2016

Post:
Hi after much researching I plumped for a Panasonic Viera tx-40cs520 in the dining room as I build my home system as it would appear to support full IP control including wake on lan. Well I can't get the wake on lan side of things to work! In the manual it's states that the iOS app controls won't work with the mains power on/off switch. One would presume by it being in standby it would work! If anyone would help that would be great!

Thanks
Chris

To clarify, what is it that would lead one to believe that model has any IP control?

2016

Post:
Hi, I currently have Simple Sync 3.0.0 running on my Mac.
Whenever I try to check for an update I get an update Error.
Is there a direct link to the latest version of Simple Sync?

The auto-update last Fall didn't like the change of the name from Roomie Agent to Simple Sync along with change of domain so as we tweeted and posted at the time, it required a one-time manual update.

The Simple Sync download URL is:

simplecontrol.com/b/SimpleSync.dmg

2016

With the ability of iOS 9 to launch an app from SC and then return to SC from that app, launching apps from SC is very desirable. For anyone that doesn't know how to do it, just type the address in the URL box (instead of inputting a command) and use Safari to open it. I have quite a few apps that I launch from SC and was going to start a list. If anyone can add the new Hue Legacy Gen 1 App URL Scheme that would be great......

here are the ones I use

Dune Zappiti Media App - zmcdune://
Hue App (original) - hue://
Hue Gen 2 app - hue2://
Hue Disco Gen 2 app - huedisco20://
Music Player - music://
Netflix - nflx://
Sonos - sonos://
YouTube - youttube://
Watch ABC - abcplayer://
Watch ESPN - watchespn://

2016

**Is there a plan to implement Apple Music control in Simple Control? Currently iTunes/Apple TV guides/controls do not enable full capability of Apple Music aside from basic playback controls and local library navigation. I am at a tipping point to possibly purchase a Sonos Connect and just move over to Spotify instead of Apple Music, however I'd rather not if there is a plan to have full control of Apple Music on Simple Control. I suspect the limitation is Apple's APIs, but looking for some insight on future plans for this. It would be a huge improvement. Thanks.

**+1 this would be awesome to integrate apple music in a guide somewhere !

**+ 1 !!!

I have been waiting for apple to release either an update apple remote app and apple TV app to control apple music, radio stations, search apple music, etc. The only way to enjoy the apple music interface is air play via iOS/macOS or browse apple TV.

Ideally, apple music is streaming from a stationary device such as apple TV, and controlled (not steamed) from simple control.

**this would be amazing for sure.

2016

**HUMAX 1002S is satellite STB supplied for OSN PVR/DVR customers in middle east
Contrary to various internet forums advice -this does NOT use the "Pace TDS(865) Cos" code set.
(the codes are same, except the 1002S unit utilizes toggle codes, the Pace does not)
Hence using the Pace code set -will work - but will not support successive press of same key
Many different STB units were tested from simple control database- unsuccessfully

After reading and experimenting - it is possible to use the roomieremote DDK to build a
database that will support toggle codes.

my experiences & tutorial will follow
(after final testing -- I will submit the RoomieCodes.plist file to SC to up[date the published code sets.)

2016

**Any plans to look into Honeywells new open api? Would like to consolidate my thermostats into one remote etc

developer.honeywell.com/

**+1 for adding support for Honeywell thermostats. My HVAC company is replacing all my thermostats with 8000 series wi-fi capable free of charge with an installation.

**And another +1 for the desire to control Honeywell Smart WiFi Thermo from SC. Thanks! :slight_smile:

8000 and 9000 series Honeywell Wi-Fi Thermostats from Honeywell are controllable in 4.2.0 (the next release).

2016

The 4.5 update should be going live somewhere between this Monday and 8/29.

The most important thing about this release is simply to ensure that all of your clients (Simple Control) and Hub if applicable are updated at the same time. The new version does not talk to the old version and vice versa.

While we do include this warning text in pretty much every release, this one draws a hard line so make that once any part of your Simple Control infrastructure updates, the rest must as well.

In the case of the Simple Hub appliance, you may force the update by unplugging it and plugging it back in. The update will go live relatively simultaneously for everything so once you see it from the App Store, it will be available for macOS and the appliance.

The changes in this release are mostly under the hood improvements for compatibility with the new Simple Control Home product.

2016

Tips & Best Practices

I have a Vizio D24f-G1 that seems to toggle the power with every command. Both "Power On" and "Power Off" are command options in RR, but they both seem to function as a Power Toggle command (which is not shown as a command option for 2016+ models of Vizio TVs).

A topic from 2013 Indicates that Toggled power devices should have Track Power State turned on (which is on by default). However, later topics indicate that this option is deprecated.

"Always Turn This On" is active for the device under Room Function.

I found some documentation online for the Vizio Smart Cast API that shows three power commands:

Event Name\tCodeset\tCode
Power Off\t\t11\t0
Power On\t\t11\t1
Power Toggle\t\t11\t2

This indicates that the TV can respond to discrete on or off commands, as well as a toggle command.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions on how I can get the TV to stop turning off when it is on and I select another activity.

I have that exact model, it's actually one of our test units for Vizio. One issue here is that most/almost all Vizio units do support proper discrete power, the commands we send are discrete, and I have never noticed this model behaving unpredictably, but I have not tested it in this area given that I know the vast corpus of Vizio models work fine here. However, it is common in other brands to see this kind of feature-removal at the bottom end. As long as you only control the unit from Roomie and have a properly setup Primary, there is no issue because the commands are always issued in sequence.

Track Power State still exists if needed. If a Power Toggle command exists in the codeset, it appears. If needed, an alternate codeset could be added with only the toggle command to enable that. You can contact support to look into this.

I have a somewhat similar problem with power functions on our new 2024 Samsung TV. There is only a power toggle in RR for Samsung TV’s, and no separate power on an off commands (that I could find). I can’t set the Samsung as the “primary” since I’m using Dish boxes as the primary or I lose the displayed channel on the TV activity. Without separate on and off commands for my Samsung Activities they get out of sync. My work around previously was to use a global cache box with IR commands for both the power on and off. Is there a way to transmit discrete separate on/off Samsung commands through IP? Thanks.

Would love to understand better why every so often a user gets confused about Samsung TV power – which obviously like 40% of users use, so we've made it super simple. But you're not the first to be confused. Roomie auto-creates the correct commands for you, so that is the primary reason I'm not sure why anyone can get it wrong. I assume what happens is the user deletes or changes what we created and then they're lost except it's also documented multiple times, in the FAQ with a dedicated entry, and covered here often. So, I would like to eliminate this confusion, but I feel like preventing users from changing the commands to something broken is a bit too heavy handed.

Anyway, as documented and covered here since at least 2016 when they made the last changes to this area, Samsung is a Wake on LAN unit. POWER ON does not exist, it is simply a Wake on LAN command. Officially, the command they provide (which only works when the TV is turned on) is a POWER TOGGLE. So we provide that. Technically though, it is actually a POWER OFF because it toggles when it is turned on while Wake on LAN turns the TV on.

Perhaps also the confusion is that certainly during that 8 year period, sort of like Vizio in this thread you're hijacking, Samsung has produced a small number of TV models that break some aspects of this usually at the very low end, Costco-only bargain basement stuff. It's not common, but we encountered a few of them in the roughly 2019 period. Also, behavior can vary based on the settings of your TV.

2024

These will obviously be changing regularly, but here is the current version of the Release Notes. Comments can be posted to this forum category (not the public one). Technical problems please just send to support as usual.

* Home configuration storage and synchronization is now entirely local to the Primary Controller rather than stored in iCloud. While it was marginally useful to have it in the cloud, its only real use case was for offsite control. Given that Roomie is always used within the home or via VPN to the home, moving to a pure local storage method with local synchronization works much better, is more secure (eliminates the entire class of security issues associated with cloud storage), and faster.
* Automatic Backups: Daily and monthly automated configuration backups may now be executed to your choice of location.
* Home Permissions: Each Controller now has permissions for the Home, either Full Access or Read-Only.
* Multiroom Linked Activities: Using the same media player in multiple rooms is now recognized as a Linked Activity. Such Activities can be activated together with the new Link button. Opening the volume controller for such an Activity displays all related volumes along with global mute control.
* Inline Action Panel Editing: Entering Layout mode for the current Action Panel allows inline customization of your remote with a simple user interface.
* Keyboard in Action Panel is now displayed with a live entry field and does not submit until you finalize it. This makes text entry much simpler and fixes apps that incorrectly auto-accept your input such as YouTube.
* Weather: Current, daily, or hourly weather is now displayed throughout the app including the Homebar, Dashboard, and optionally per-room.
* Sunset/Sunrise Automation: Execution based on solar-related time events is now available for Time-based Automations.
* Shortcuts/Siri: Everything related to these features has been re-implemented using the latest Apple API to support current and upcoming changes. Your old Shortcuts should migrate automatically, but some degree of adaptation may be required. Please verify your Shortcuts and let us know if you had to adjust anything.
* Primary Controller can now be app-locked requiring Touch ID/Face ID by tapping the lock icon on the “Primary” button. This feature enables situating your Primary Controller in an unsecured environment without worrying about unauthorized access.
* Air Quality Sensor and TVOC are now displayed when available for HomeKit Sensors.
* HomeKit Custom Icons: Active and Inactive icons may now be configured for each HomeKit accessory.
* Inactive Activity Icons: Activities may now specify an Inactive icon to use when the Activity is not active.
* Color Icons and Symbols: Thousands of additional symbols are available as well as support for multicolor symbols.
* Fixes and optimizations to Govee, Wattbox, Nest, and others.
* Many fixes throughout the app.
* V9 is incompatible with older versions of Roomie. They will simply be ignored. Make sure to update all Roomie devices on all platforms. Installing the new version over the old automatically upgrades. If you fresh install instead, restoring an older backup also upgrades automatically.
* Minimum system requirements are now the Fall 2023 releases iOS/iPadOS/tvOS 17, macOS 14.

macOS and tvOS should now be available in same TestFlight. If you have one, you should be able to get all of them. Will generally try to keep them all up to date, but regardless they should all be safe to run together with slightly different build numbers.

2895 today introduces multicolor symbols and also Activity icons now support on/off states. (among other changes)

Multicolor symbols could be dramatic. They can be quite in your face which is why they go hand in hand with different symbols for on/off states.

Note that many symbols are likely blank unless you're using iOS 18 beta. They add hundreds of symbols per year. Normally we try to stay 1 year behind so that nobody ever sees a blank, but now there is the possibility you could choose an iOS 18-only symbol on one device, but find that it is blank if you have an iOS 17 device, so keep that in mind.

Thank you RR for yet another amazing feature and most importantly acknowledging and responding to user request…

Attached is a sample of some of the activities changed…
[screenshot]

2909 introduces the first functional aspects of Inline Action Panel Editing. It is very fresh out of the oven and for any real purpose, I'd recommend waiting another build. But you can given it try safely in this build. The Swap command doesn't really work yet. Delete/Hide/Design should work.

This build also has various functional improvements to the Auto Backup mechanism and related Home settings.

I'd estimate we will be giving this another 1-2 weeks before sending to the App Store, so this is a relative last chance before go live to get any comments in.

As we are entering final beta phase it would be great if these two requests can make it to the final release

A) Volume control in the room dashboard for the primary volume controller for that room

B) Option to confirm yes or no before executing homebar scene activity type

I have sent detailed screenshots via email as well

Overall 5 stars for excellent and very significant ver 9 release…BIG THANK YOU !

2024

Question: I have a Ring doorbell camera and a couple other ring cameras inside my home. Since installing the beta, I get prompted on a daily basis to enter a 6-digit code from Ring to authenticate in Roomie. If I don't enter the code quickly, I will end up getting multiple SMS messages from Ring with my 6-digit code. This didn't happen in V8.

Staff response: Support will need diagnostics.

Diagnostic must be the whole enchilada. Goes from working to not working back to working. From the primary.

We believe this is finally fixed in 2918.

We did reproduce an issue as recently as this week and make some other changes in this area, so please just make sure it still works for you.

2024

Not sure if this belongs here or as bug feedback. In the latest beta build (2452), some of the "quick" buttons (the buttons that appear just above the progress bar) for TiVos have disappeared. Not sure if this was intentional or not. But the missing "numeric" keyboard button is problematic.

Here's the old and the new:

I'm guessing this is due to a customized design. What happens if you use a non-customized design? I'm not seeing this issue with my TiVos.

Weird.

I created a new non-custom TiVo activity and the "normal" quick buttons are back for that activity.

Weirder.

I customized that new activity and the normal quick buttons remained.

Again, this is new in this latest build.

Worse case I guess, I can re-create all my TiVo activities and re-customize.

P.S. Did you see my bug report on the resolution issues on my iPad Mini 4 or should I just post that here too?

2022

My home network is divided into multiple VLANs for isolation and I had planned on moving everything other than clients from the network where the infrastructure is running, but Wake On LAN and the complexity of proxying it is keeping me from moving the devices I use for Roomie. Can you add an option to send Wake On LAN packets from the hub?

Just a suggestion, I use Homebridge and it's WoL plugin as a workaround to expose a HomeKit switch that Roomie toggles on in activities.

2021

For users using Roomie outside of their home's network outside via VPN, I have a suggestion to streamline the experience. Currently, users are prompted if they open Roomie when not connected to their home network.

Can Roomie prompt the user if they want to connect to VPN, and if "yes" enable the VPN setting, or simply link to the setting page?

I think this would improve the user experience instead of exiting the app, opening setting, and enabling VPN.

Hi amellovitz457,

I'm doing this right now with the Shortcuts app. I consider it a fairly usable workaround for a VPN that does not support Apple's VPN On Demand feature. The just of the shortcut:

Get current IP address
--If address is in local range
--Otherwise
----URL: prefs:root=General&path=VPN
----Open URL (toggle VPN on manually)
----Wait (for you to toggle VPN on)
--End If
Open Roomie Remote

Save it as a home screen icon and always use that icon to launch Roomie. Give it a try!

Thx!

very helpful and creative workaround, thanks!

2020

Post:
Hi,

Wondering if there is a way we can have cameras appear in multiple rooms when the room is in locked mode and enabled only for that room.Use case is for each room I have iPad installed on the wall and it displays only that room 24/7 then I have 4 cameras front and back of the home...if I assign to say living room sure they will show up on the living room iPad but then if I go say to Another room iPad on the wall dedicated to that room I cannot see the cameras

2020

Question: What are the technical limitations that prevent bluetooth media remotes being used to control the corresponding controls in Roomie?

Obviously there are tons of options. [..]

I continue to look for a good hard button remote solution. Any news on exposing play / pause current activity through the API?

Staff response: Hardbutton remotes are just not my thing. I do try to appreciate users that want it though by adding features related to it from time to time to help gauge continuing interest.

For instance in V6, we added support for PS4 and Xbox controllers as remotes. They are Bluetooth and pair directly with iOS, quite reliable. If I felt more pull from the users around these features, I would invest the time to add activity selection to the left stick of those controllers which would really complete the picture there (I believe I discussed this in another thread, possibly in the beta forums).

But really, I can count the number of users who have submitted support queries on hard button remote topics in the past ~3 years on one hand. Perhaps I pay too much attention to it because it occasionally gets posted (like this) on the forum and also people (who likely do not use the product much) tend to bring it up when I meet them in person at expos probably because they used Harmony for so many years that they just haven't upgraded their mental patterns yet.

So, if you care about this feature, comment on it, more importantly get other people to comment on it, to request it, and to request specific technical features related to it. From my perspective, it's never been better, we just added 2 awesome controllers, and we also support a number of integrator-friendly solutions like LaunchPort, etc. Adding some no-brand Bluetooth remote has no apparent value whatsoever to the user base. Need a compelling case to spend time here.

Personally, I would never use any of these things because if I really perceived an ergonomic issue with control in some specific aspect, I would solve it on-screen – we've taken into account and designed for many issues in this area in the past. Making people use a hard button remote seems backwards.

But again, make a specific and compelling case to me, including why the many options we already provide do not meet that need. We've spent time here in the past, I'm certainly open to further improvements.

Responding to a few use cases here that seem broken to me:

Community reply: > This just happened the other night. In the theater watching a movie. I have a dedicated iPad for Roomie in the theater. I prefer a totally dark room, so I tend to turn off the iPad when watching certain movies. The volume is on 80dB reference level. My wife says she has to go to the bathroom. I tell Alexa to tell Simple Control to pause. She doesn’t hear me. I try again. She doesn’t hear me. So I use my thumbprint to unlock the iPad. Doesn’t recognize it right away. Try again. Finally in and hit pause. During all this the movie is going on and I lose 30 seconds of dialog

The model is that Roomie is on a dedicated iOS device and Guided Access is engaged. Especially in a room called "Theater". The iPad would never be locked, it is incapable of locking.

> I usually yell at Alexa to do this, but again, it’s a shop to she might not hear me because of the size of the sp...

2020

Question: My Yamaha RX A1030 receiver will not respond to commands in the last 2 versions of the beta. It works without issues in V5.7.7. I have spent several hours troubleshooting. I have added it in as a new device using various code sets and port 80 or 50000 as per the IP compatibility listing suggests. I have used both AutoDiscovery and Manual configurations. I get some of the new device configurations working for a few minutes before it becomes unresponsive again. So far this is the only device out o...

Staff response: I have not submitted a support request.

That's how things get diagnosed. In beta or not in beta.

After 9 years telling people to go to support, it's quite frustrating to engage this kind of time wasting conversation. It takes 1 second to diagnose this kind of thing in support rather than going back and forth in a forum.

Yamaha has multiple (at least 5) communication methods. There is no correct response to your query as at least 2 of them work with your model, and the answer is different in each case. When you use the correct submission methods, we can see exactly what you're referring to and know the exact answer right away. Or we can prognosticate in a forum.

I was fiddling with a Chamberlain HomeKit bridge for their garage doors yesterday. Spent multiple hours with it to no avail as it seems to have a number of bugs. One thing I noticed is that they used to have a forum, you can even search it on Google, but accessing any of the search results brings you to an error page with no apparent way to get to the forum. I guess they shut it down recently. I'm getting skeptical that a forum's benefits outweigh the downsides. It's really nice that it provides a stored history of issues, as I wanted for the Chamberlain issues, but obviously in the end they decided it was not workable. If I give people 4 paths for incoming issues but only one of them works well, it's my fault they use the other 3 as we can see here. There is an extremely high rate of users trying to post support issues to the forum. Still not sure what the solution is, but at this point not having a forum and just going ticket-only is certainly the most coherent path.

2019

Question: Do a two-finger zoom out gesture on any non-Settings screen to bring up a live log of what's going on internally. I'm not sure we'll leave this in for release, but it may be useful for beta. Let us know what you think and if you find it useful.

Does anyone use this? Should we keep it in for release? It is a double-edged sword. Lots of upside, lots of downside. I'm leaning toward making this a beta-only feature. Weigh in.

* Yes, I use this and it has become indispensable.
* Yes, but I doubt I would use it much.
* No, users will just shoot themselves in the foot.
* No, I have no idea what that stuff is in there.

This poll is classic. For now, I've disabled the feature in production. It is still there in beta.

2019

I’m thinking of purchasing a HomePod and was wondering if volume control is support in SC?

This is one of those topics that really pushes my buttons, probably the biggest one.

While HomePod looks like a HomeKit device if you open Apple's Home app, it is not. Apple does not include HomePod in HomeKit so apps have no way to talk to it. Apple TVs also look like HomeKit devices, but are not.

While it was worth the extensive time to solve that ourselves for Apple TV, the demand for HomePod support has been very low. Given that, we're unlikely to do anything special for it yet.

What I imagine is happening is that HomeKit is on a 2-3 year cycle. 2018 essentially introduced nothing on the HomeKit front, just a couple of tweaks. This tells me there is a ton of new stuff coming in 2019 and hopefully Apple will coalesce all these fake HomeKit devices and fix the gaps in the API.

Ok thanks. Hopefully this time next year Apple TV and HomePod will be real HomeKit devices.

2018

These are a few things that I think are fairly easy that might be an improvement to the ui.

Add an option when long holding an activity to allow visiting the activity remote without activating the activity. Sometimes you need to turn something off etc and just need the remote. Currently have to go to devices and choose test which works but is the long way round.

In an activity allow long holding the activity name to re-activate the activity like it does in the main menu. Sometimes a command fails etc or there are multiple users and the remote gets out of sync and thinks it’s on that activity.

Allow naming the off commands in the confirmation prompt or just show the room/activity name in the prompt. Or allow a totally custom prompt. If there are shared Devices like hdmi switcher etc the power off can affect other rooms so on the system off a warning that everything is going off would be helpful.

A minor thing but the ui for the garage doors could be improved to show the status more clearly, maybe with two buttons for open and closed? Also the light sliders and on/off taps could be more intuitive.

Very excited about 5.5 coming out sometime soon!

2018

Hello - I recently integrated a Sonos Connect to my home audio system and Simple Control configuration. Has the team considered Sonos as a Simple Control Trigger agent? An example would be to create a new trigger that can start a Simple Control activity to turn on the receiver and set the input if a Sonos Connect begins playing music. This would be a powerful way to quickly and easily start listening to music if you tell Alexa to start playing a certain artist on Sonos, or start playing music on a Sonos Connect from a native app like spotify or Pandora. It would also avoid the need to open multiple apps or use multiple Alexa commands. I would think this would be a relatively light lift for a new feature given the relative flexibility of the Sonos platform.

2018

Question: Could someone clarify what happens to existing legacy remote designs when updating from 5.0.14 to 5.5? Are they wiped out completely and everything has to be rebuilt using an action panel? Or are they still available but not able to be edited etc?

There are several statements on the page which seem to contradict each other:

"Legacy Remote Designs are finally gone and replaced by significantly better Action Panel customization. Give yourself time to reb...

Staff response: I don't see any contradiction there, they both say that you can create customizations as needed. Legacy Designs are completely gone the moment you upgrade. Note this was also flashed in the app for the last month as an in-app notification, posted to multiple social media locations, and the deprecation was announced Fall 2017, so there has been an incredibly long time to prepare for the transition.

Here are some of the steps we took for this transition.

* 10 months ago, we included in bold and multiple locations in the V5 release notes the exact text "Legacy Virtual Remotes and Remote Designs will be removed in a future release when Action Panel Editing replaces them". This message was flashed to every single V4 and V5 app many times, flashed on every upgrade, and has been the most prominent item on our website since last October 2017. It's still there.

* 1 month ago, we flashed a specific reminder inside the V5 app. Every single user that ran the app on every single device in the last month saw this message. We then paid Facebook to advertise the same message to our users to make sure we catch any stragglers or compensate for non-readers.

V5.5 Facebook Graphic

* After paying to send that out and making sure every user that runs the app gets to see the same graphic there which included the strongest possible text we could possibly write on Legacy Remote Designs: "Prepare now by removing them from your configuration." In other words, our suggestion was not "wait until 5.5 comes and then take your time", but rather purge them immediately a month ago and it was quite explicit, so that you are at a clean state to build new customizations at 5.5 release a month later. Or, recognize that you will need to control the time you upgrade and it will take a while.

* Further, the V5.5 release notes available on our website for those who didn't want to upgrade immediately and also flashed to every user this week state "Legacy Remote Designs are finally gone and replaced by significantly better Action Panel customization. Give yourself time to rebuild any Legacy Remote Designs as customized Action Panels." Give yourself time. This was again to indicate that, if you're not prepared for that significant change, you will want to upgrade at a controlled time.

* A slightly shorter version of that message is in the App Store release notes that you are able to see before choosing to update: "Legacy Remote Designs are removed as announced in 2017 now that Action Panel Editing has arrived."

We have heard from a couple users who seem like they may have preferred we did something differently, I'm really not sure what – the actual comments are more similar to the people who just don't read anything we put out whether it is release notes or a flashed urgent message in the app and there is nothing we can do for that kind of pers...

2018

I have the current version (4.5.8) of Simple Control, and updated my Apple TV4 to tvOS 10.2 (which was designed to fix scrolling, though apparently only for its own remote, not for Simple Control or other 3rd party remotes).

When I use an Apple TV 3, my long list of movies can be scrolled quickly (with momentum scrolling) simply by holding down the Up or Down arrows key. But, with Apple TV 4, this functionality diminished. It does scroll slightly more rapidly when holding down the Up or Down arrow keys, but not nearly as quickly as it did with Apple TV 3. It takes a long time to scroll thru a list of 500-1000 movies.

Does anyone know why this functionality got worse?
Is there a workaround?
Can Simple Control fix this problem, or will it require an update from Apple (tvOS)?

We are in the midst of major improvements related to Apple TV 4. They should be entering beta within a month. They should take care of most any issue anyone is seeing on ATV4 such as gesture based scrolling or long press behavior.

There is nothing needed from Apple any more than anything has ever been needed from Apple in this area per se. They've never helped, so we've done it all from scratch.

2017

I rely on using backup to Dropbox to keep multiple configurations and switch between them for testing. Especially when "two steps forward, one step back" experimenting with configuration and control of finicky devices.

I installed a Simple Hub and the only iPad that was running got itself into a "shared" status instead of just a "paired" status.

The "paired" status does not allow backing up to Dropbox and the Simple Service backup doesn't save multiple versions.

Enhancement request #1: Allow "shared" status paired devices to backup to Dropbox.

This is also valuable when using Multi-home remote access to manage another installation. Again, need to be able to do multiple backup/restores for remote configuration changes and troubleshooting. If needed, add an extra level of authentication or setting "allow remote admins to backup/restore" or similar, if needed for security restrictions.

Enhancement request #2: Allow backups/restores via Simple Service to support multiple configurations with date/time stamp. Restore should default to the last saved configuration, but provide option to override and manually select a specific configuration.

I think there is a typo in your message. When you said "The "paired" status does not allow backing up to Dropbox", I think you mean the "shared" status does not.

The paired status does allow Dropbox.

Shared is the state where you have (usually temporarily) switched to a configuration shared with you.

Dropbox is disabled in that state because, in general, you're not using your configuration which means backing up to Dropbox would nuke your configuration already stored there. It's a safety measure.

Meanwhile, if you're on the local network with the Hub, you can always switch from Shared to Paired. Just open the Hub settings and pair. That will enable Dropbox.

Part 2 of your message is a feature we are hoping to add.

Yes, thanks for the correction.

However, I ran into a strange state this past weekend onsite with a client. They were running a single iPad without any hub and I installed a Simple Hub (hardware).

The iPad ended up in a "shared" state. Whenever I unpaired it, the entire configuration was wiped out. While it was unpaired, I could restore it from Dropbox, but then as soon as I paired, it went back to "shared" state.

I didn't want to lose the configuration, so I was hesitant to pair/unpair at random. That is why I wanted to be able to make changes to the configuration when in "shared" state, but still be able to backup to Dropbox and shuffle files around on the web to keep multiple backup versions to be able to rollback/rollforward.

2017

Two suggestions:

1) Provide a slider that goes past 10m, like to 15m

2) Provide an option that allows for switching earlier when the device is outside the max radius. If I'm getting closer to one room, go ahead and switch to that before I get within the radius.

Otherwise, SC is often too slow in switching which kind of defeats the purpose. I realize that the beacons themselves broadcast changes slowly. Just trying to suggest a workaround here.

3) run a background task every second to ensure that a room switch occurs before the user clicks on the app

We already do 3. The reason this is probably more noticeable since December is that whatever Apple reviewer we got for 4.0.7 didn't understand iBeacons and gave us an ultimatum that they would not approve the app unless we removed background location updates. So we did. At some point in the future now that the Christmas crunch is over and we have more time to engage in endless debates about what an iBeacon is with reviewers that haven't been trained on the concept, we'll put it back in.

It takes about 5 seconds to properly range an iBeacon. Unnoticeable if we do it in the background, but more noticeable if we can't. So this is a temporary hiccup caused by the App Review system.

2016

Post:
Hi,
I have asked this before but with the version 5 beta in place now, I thought this will be a good opportunity to request this feature again.

By looking at the compatibility list, I noticed that the only well known brands of receivers which don't have Pandora Album Art feedback implemented on them are Pioneer and Yamaha receivers. Most other well know receivers have this feature integrated into simple control.

I was just wondering, with the version 5 beta, if that would be possible to integrate the Pandora album art feedback for the mentioned receivers. I would really appreciate if you guys can do this along with other new features which will come along with the new version.

I really don't want to replace my receiver, just for lack of this feature.

Thanks,

This usually has nothing to do with our side. We implement whatever the receiver exposes, and usually a lot more for example via our reverse engineering of the Yamaha and Denon app protocols that allowed multiple connections.

Yamaha and Denon have both made major enhancements to their protocols this year which we're adopting in 5.0 Home/System apps.

Since Pioneer got bought out by Onkyo a year or so ago, they're not quite their own protocol/entity anymore and their protocols have generally switched to Onkyo's protocols. If we see any appreciable user demand, we're likely to update to reflect that, but we do already support Onkyo's protocols and haven't seen anything significantly new from them this year on that front.

As far as going back in time to a few years ago and adding features to legacy Pioneer receivers, it seems very unlikely Pioneer would do that at this point given that they're not even using said protocols anymore in any recent model.

2016

Post:
If I create/own multiple locations, how are device licenses/subscriptions counted? Does each location have the same number of devices available or are licenses summed across all the locations I own?

I would assume that if I am "invited" to another location, I would inherit that location's device limits per the existing license of that location's owner?

For your locations (you are the Owner in your Simple Control account), device counts are summed across all locations you own.

When you grant permission to a particular location to some other Simple Control account whether as an Admin or Guest, that Admin/Guest is treated as if they are on your account for the duration of the time they are controlling that location. They don't need their own licenses. However, if you grant Admin access specifically, they will need a Multihome or System license. A Guest genuinely needs no license. They could get the System app, have access granted by you, and have free Guest (no editing) access to your config.

2016

Question: Are there any plans to have a smart
Home skill?

Thanks
Paul

Staff response: These are not useful right now. One day when the Smart Home Skill APIs improve to handle concepts other than very basic lights, then certainly we will consider having both a Skill and a Smart Home Skill. For now, the Smart Home skills are a very small subset of real Skills with no functionality other than turn on a light or set a thermostat. As an example of many limitations, you can't even get the thermostat value. This is very early days for the Smart Home API and we look forward to its future enhancements. Meanwhile, our real Skill provides access to large amounts of functionality.

A quicker "fix", rather than the likely years it will require Amazon to enhance the Smart Home API to the point we would need for it to be a suitable replacement for their main Skills API, is to allow the Alexa user to designate a "default skill", effectively moving all of the verbs from a particular skill into pole position so you could drop "tell Simple Control" from commands.

Combined with the need for the Skills API to identify the specific Alexa device from which a command originated (to allow automatic determination of the room), those two minor enhancements could be implemented far more quickly than long term architectural enhancements to the Smart Home API which would be very complex to support our 30 different device categories, activities, and many other things we would need that are not conceived of in the Smart Home API, but are largely already available in our current Skill.

That's not likely related to Alexa support. What you're seeing is a device in your configuration (likely your receiver) is a single-connection device. Thus your iPhone and Hub are conflicting. Lots of ways to resolve that, these kinds of things should go to support.

This is the knowledgebase article dealing with some common cases of that:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... e-devices/

2016

Hey Roomie,

I may be in a small minority of people that use Roomie as a complete home hub, with an iPad on my wall dedicated to running the program 24/7. I've put a lot of infrastructure in place and your program manages it all. I don't know how many other people do this, so my requests may be low on a priority list, on completely unfeasible.

 

Like I said my Roomie app is open 24/7, and as a complete home hub it works great but a few details could make it work much better. Things like being able to move buttons around the screen other than having them stuck to the left hand side of the screen. I have my iPad on my wall in landscape mode, so the 60% of the screen on the right hand side is black when a function isn't pressed. It's a lot of real estate without function. Adding the ability to move buttons, maybe even adding something like a weather widget would really make this app function like a first class home hub.

Great work with the app, it really is amazing, and puts my old harmony ultimate to shame!

I use my iPad similarly to krisr2005 but as a dedicated home theatre remote. I agree that screen configuration would be an interesting option.

Another feature that I was considering today would be the ability to run the remote as a public terminal emulator, that is disabling/locking the use of the iPad for other purposes other than as a remote. going full screen with the remote would vastly improve the functionality and professional look of the remote.

Many of these are already current features. Going full screen with a VR is already a Remote Design option. Inside a Remote Design, common uses for the blank space include the clock feature and live video cameras. You just define a Remote Design for your System Off activity with a clock and any video cameras. Locking your iPad to Roomie is very easy using the Guided Access feature of iOS, and within Roomie you can then use multiple levels of additional locking to lockout editing, PIN lock, or lock Roomie to a specific room.

The two aspects of the original post that are not current features are a live weather display and perhaps some kind of centering of Activity buttons when an Activity is not open.

2015

Question: I have successfully added hue lights to my system. However, I can only control the lights individually with the default remote control. I can't control the entire group of lights. Any thoughts on the solution.

2015

I have been trying to use the new alarm function to wake me up in the morning with mixed results since it's introduction. I have been able to get the alarm to go off, and trigger the command. I was hoping you could comment on the suggested workflow in using this feature?

Does the iOS device have to remain on, by using the "Auto-Lock = Never", in order to get the associated command to fire? (The audible part of the alarm has always went off, but the command has only fired once for me) Could the Roomie Agent for OS X fire the command if the iOS device is locked?

Should users disable the "Poll Dropbox" feature in order to mitigate the Alarm being set on multiple iOS devices? (I would like the alarm to just go off on one iOS device, if possible...)

Thanks again for a great product!

Yes, executing commands does currently require the app is running and iOS device is unlocked as per the message on screen when configuring the alarms.

The exception is that the alarm sound will still go off regardless of whether Roomie is running.

Poll Dropbox is not really relevant. Alarms are tied to Remote Designs. A typical use case is that a particular room has an idle state Remote Design configured on the System Off command. So "Bedroom" would have a "Bedroom Idle" Remote Design, that would have some wake up alarms configured in it, and only the iPad at bedside would normally be configured to use that Remote Design.

If you had some toggle commands you were using there, that could introduce issues because alarm commands are always executed so if you had multiple devices on that Remote Design, it could execute multiple times. Version 2.2.1 introduces the ability to base alarm execution on the state of Activity Toggles, whether they are on or off. That allows for instance a single Toggle Activity to represent "Shades". You may then set an alarm to open shades (turn on Activity) at 9am and close shades at 6pm while skipping execution if either of those states were already the case at the time of the event.

2014

Hallo,

First, thank you for Roomie! I am a long time user of Roomie and can't do without it anymore. What I also use and can't do without is Zappiti. It creates a beautifull moviewall and works great with my NAS and Dune. What I am missing is the integration with Roomie. Now I switch between Roomie and Zappiti all the time. I now many people use Zappiti.

I would realy like an possibility to use Zappiti inside Roomie, just like for instance Kaleidescape. Maybe with some tricks it is already possible? The database is synced locally to the dune......

Regards, Frank

We haven't heard of that one before, but will certainly take a look if we see enough requests.

However, if your real goal is linking content to Dune HD players, we are introducing a solution for that in 3.1. XBMC/Kodi will be able to be linked with Dune HD players in that release, and Roomie will manage translation of paths on your NAS between XBMC and Dune HD. So you would be able to use Roomie's XBMC Media Guide tied to your Dune HD player and Roomie will play the items on the Dune as selected from the XBMC Media Guide.

This needs a little it more explanation. I own a Qnap Nas and a Dune Smart mediaplayer. Where do i have to run Xbmc/Kodi then? I would guess on the Nas?

For what we are referring to in 3.1, you would run XBMC on anything that runs XBMC. That points to your NAS. The Dune doesn't talk to XBMC, it just talks to your NAS like it does today, no changes. Roomie will just use the rich Media Guide from XBMC and translate the same paths on your NAS from XBMC to the Dune.

Since Zappiti remote control is exactly matching the Dune HD TV303D remote buttons (same hardware), it shouldn't be difficult to have at least the remote integrated into roomie (see picture here below). But for the complete movie list display you'll need to contact the Zappiti developers I guess.

I think I understand, so for instance a "Raspberry Player XBMC KODI 14.0 TURBO 16GB USB 3.0" would be something I could use. Just for scraping the series and movies and build the movie wall. Next, I can stream them from my NAS to the Dune. Am I correct? Is all the above then playable from Roomie?

Maybe you can advice an other device, which is well supported by Roomie, just for my needs?



+1 for Zappiti support !

 

@ the Roomie Team:

Will PLEX also be able to be linked with Dune HD Players ? Unfortunately my NAS don't run XBMC, but PLEX.

Thanks !

2014

I need to be able to control Lutron Homeworks Lights and Shades system. The processor is HRP5-120 wireless. Would the Radio RA2 drivers work for it or do I have to write my own drivers? Would I get two way feedback if I write my own?

I have the same processor and have it working as a custom device via ip for my lighting...but with no feedback. Feedback may be possible, but I haven't been able to figure it out yet. Adding shades, keypads and scenes is pretty easy once you have the ip handshaking working. Let me know if you want me to post the xcode and the commands.

I have got this working as well. The radio ra2 drivers do not work. You need to write a custom DDK and send it via port 23. As long as you have a working telnet password for the homeworks system it isn't too hard to figure out. I telnetted in on a PC, turned on DLMON and KBMON to see what different light switches were doing at the dinner and fixture level and built custom commands based on that. The hardest bit was figuring out how to login and logout. The trick is to send "username, password" as the first command And "quit" as the last one. An example command would be:

<key>Sample command</key><string>username, password crlf kbp, 1:8:1:2, 1 crlf quit</string>

Good luck.

I agree that the hardest part is getting the logon/off working. I found that Roomie will handle it for you if you want it to. In the xcode for the custom device if you define:

<key>.AUTH 1 FORMAT</key>
<string>USERNAME,PASSWORD</string>

then Roomie will ask for this string when you define the device. Remember to select that Automatic Commands be executed. Roomie will then handle the logon process for you.

Aha. Yes I tried to figure that out but gave up. I'll give that a go. Any luck adding parameters into the commands or getting feedback on eg dimmer levels?

I have parameters working to some extent. I was able to create a second entry at device definition, "Address", but I wasn't able to get the result encoded into my commands.

So, instead I have just used a simpler approach for now.

<key>.LIGHT SET ADDRESS BRIGHTNESS</key>

<string>FADEDIM,$$,2,0,1:8:1:##</string>

I set the brightness by creating remote buttons for a range of levels, say every 10% and then using the command format "LIGHT SET 15 10", where 15 is address of the fixture and 10 is the brightness level. It fades the dimmer over 2 seconds with no delay to the requested brightness.

When I figure out how to embed the address of the fixture that I entered at device creation, I'll be able to copy the same remote for use with all lights. I also programmed on and off buttons and some up and down buttons. I have not been able to read the feed back from the dimmers.

Can you guys post the xcode files if it is not too much trouble? The processor I need to control is actually H8P5 series, but the commands should be the same. All I need to do is address the room keypads in the residence from Roomie, no feedback is needed. The more detailed control will be done from the Lutron app.

Here is the xcode that I use for the RF processor. On the RF processor that I have you only need a four part address and all for all devices the first entries 1:8:1. The wired processors may use a 5 part address, If so you will have to adjust for that. If you have a printout of the inventory of all your devices from the Homeworks Illumination software , the necessary changes should be pretty obvious. I don't have any keypads or scenes so I haven't programmed those commands yet .

I attempted to program the brightness feedback for dimmers, but it hasn't worked.

To send the commands, I programmed a pop=up activity that I can add as button on the standard Roomie virtual remotes.

Hope this helps.

Here is mine. It has a combination of keypad button presses (kbp) and direct dimmer level commands (fadedim, raisedim, lowerdim). I've also attached the documentation of the Lutron RS232 commands which I found very helpful.

I am trying to get this working as well. I just need to be able to address the buttons of the wall keypads. Does this look correct? I selected manual IP in Roomie, port 23, entered the user name and password, no go. Am I missing something?

2013

Denon released a firmware update the other day and I applied it to my AVR-3313CI. Since applying, it appears some of the 2-way functionality with Roomie is now broken.

For example, in my activity remote, Receiver Input is now blank and Receiver Mode stays at DIRECT or DOLBY DIGITAL, despite changing mode or input.

Volume is also a little odd. Sometimes, the activity will start with volume at 0.0. When I adjust, the Denon goes to full volume and I have to scramble to lower it. Other times, it behaves normally.

I'm using the IP method of control on Port 80. I haven't tried the legacy mode.

No other changes have been made to my configuration or environment. Hoping Roomie can take a look.

Just to clarify, the "IP" method described in the FAQ is the experimental method. The "legacy" method is the normal/default/supported method. So if any issues are ever experienced using the experimental method, by all means use the normal method.

Nevertheless, we just updated and tested the new firmware, on a 3313 no less, and it looks good. No changes required for the experimental method. We'd recommend unplugging your receiver for about 30 seconds to reset it.

Thank you.

Happy to report that it seems to be behaving now. Thank you for the suggestion, Roomie.

I also made a change on the Denon receiver to show volume level in dB, which fixed the mis-match I was seeing in Roomie vs. receiver's actual volume level.

2013

I'm a Roomie nubie (and love it!) and am trying to set up a few custom remotes for my phone. Please help me understand a few concepts:

1) In the Edit Activity screen, there are two entries, Opens Remote and Remote Design. I know that Remote Design deals with the layout of the on screen remote, but I'm not clear what Opens Remote does. Does the Remote Design just override the Opens Remote selection, or does it work in conjunction with it?

2) It is tricky getting buttons and feedback objects to line up with any amount of regularity. On some remote designs there are objects that show up on the remote that are not present in the layout screen (e.g. menus from a Marantz receiver). Is there any way to turn these objects off, or move them lower in the layout? Also, getting the volume up/down and mute buttons to show up in the same spot on all remote designs is hit or miss. Is there any way to have them always show up top right (or left)?

3) Is it possible to set-up 'buttons' that can be placed on several remote designs rather than having to set them up on each remote? I'd like to have a lighting control button (with several settings) on most of my remotes (rather than a pop-up) and was hoping there was something less tedious (especially when needing to reprogram all of them).

4) Is it possible to test a button on the Remote Design without going all the way back out of the Activity Editing?

Thanks!

-g-

1. Opens Remote designates the base device for the Remote Design. If you don't specify a Remote Design, a default Remote Design will be generated every time the Activity is opened. If you tap Remote Design, the Opens Remote device is what it will be based upon and it will be the Default Device for that Remote Design which means that Remote Design can then also be used in another Activities or Rooms with devices of that same type.

For instance you could create a TiVo remote design with a few custom buttons and then use the same one for several TiVo Activities with different TiVos.

2. Maybe a screenshot would help here. In general, all default Remote Designs put the same buttons in exactly the same place.

3. In that scenario, you would define a Popup Activity. You could define it in another room so it doesn't take up space in any rooms. Then specify the custom button Command Type is Activity and select the Activity from the other room that opens the lighting Remote Design you created.

4. Roomie 2.0 introduced inline editing of Remote Designs. Rather than go all the way into the Activity and then edit the Remote Design, just tap the name of the Remote Design at the top of the screen and it will jump immediately to the editor.

2013

The following fixes or improvements are part of the 1.9.1 release today:

• DirecTV HR44 models now auto-retrieve C41 client devices just like we do with the HR34.
• Improved caching when adding devices resulting in faster device additions.
• Added section indexes to Add Device brand list.
• User codes supplement import is now much more forgiving about incorrect formatting.
• Fixed crash if no .MOUSE SET command existed for a device that enabled screen viewing. (eg. un-updated MCE Controller custom devices)
• Fixed rare Denon radio feedback parsing crash observed from field.
• Fixed migration issue with DirecTV devices not having correct device type. Retroactively re-migrate all DirecTV devices.
• DirecTV and Comcast Cable Original Remote images should now be selectable again.
• Added Roomie Agent for OS X to the Web product list in product.
• Fixed inability to set "Repeat While Touched" on Remote Design commands.
• Fixed creation of some feedback buttons.
• Various additional fixes.

Thank you.

The following fixes or improvements are part of the 1.9.2 release today.


  • Fixed streaming feedback for Denon receivers in all zones greater than 1.

  • Fixed creation of a new learned command set in a fresh install.

  • Fixed bug with 20 second delay option.

  • Adjusted mouse control viewing screen by a few pixels on iPhone screens to make sure the absolute edges of the screen can be reached.



Thank you.

The following fixes or improvements are part of the 1.9.3 release today.


  • Fixed timing issue with feedback on some Denon receiver models.

  • Sonos Radio now works again.

  • Fixed issue that prevented multiple commands to a Sonos device from executing properly as part of a command list.



Thank you.

2013

I put together a Roomie setup at home and my father in law was so impressed he wanted it at his house. Setup at father-in-law's is DirecTV on IP and Itach wi-fi to IR controlling a Pioneer receiver, AppleTV, and Sony Bravia KDL 46Z4100 from around 3 or 4 years ago. Everything works except the Sony Bravia. Nothing about the Bravia works. I'm currently attempting to control the Bravia off the Itach with the "all Sony TVs" setting.

So far I did the following:

checked the forums/FAQs. This led me to the diagnose IR FAQ (Diagnostics) and I attempted changing the repeats on the Bravia from 1 up to 5.
Tried IP ports 1 and 2 on the Itach. Neither worked on the Bravia.
Tested Itach ports 1 and 2; both successfully controlled the AppleTV without issue.
Pulled up the owner's manual for the Bravia to make sure I knew where the IR port was and tested this location with the Bravia's actual remote. I was indeed putting the Itach repeater in the proper place.

Any help would or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul

Sony TVs always require a raised Retransmit Count. But usually 2-4 does the trick. So just set it to 4 and then everything after that should be a physical issue. The important step you didn't mention is step 3 in the FAQ: switch to the blaster. The blaster (on port 3 with port 3 reconfigured to Blaster mode) is the only way to tell if the real problem is an emitter placement issue.

2013

We often are asked by customers which devices we recommend at various price levels to ensure best system control, so we've decided to maintain this post which will be updated over time with 3 levels of systems that are ideally geared for Roomie. Of course, many items can be added or swapped into these systems and they mostly constitute items that simply work very well with Roomie at different price points and are directly tested on a regular basis.

Speakers and multi-room audio have been left out of this list for now.

State of the Art










TVSony XBR-65X950B (Pure IP Control) or
Epson 6030UB Projector controlled by Roomie Blaster Ethernet + Roomie Serial Cable
ReceiverDenon AVR-X4000 (Pure IP Control)
Cable BoxTiVo Roamio Pro (Pure IP Control)
HTPCMac Mini 1TB with XBMC 13 and Roomie Agent
Blu-rayOppo BDP-103D controlled by Roomie Blaster Ethernet + Roomie Serial Cable
StreamerRoku 3 (Pure IP Control)

Mainstream









TVSony XBR-55X850B 55-Inch 4K (Pure IP Control)
ReceiverOnkyo TX-NR636 (Pure IP Control)
HTPCMac Mini 500GB with XBMC 13 and Roomie Agent
Blu-raySony BDP-S5200 (Pure IP Control)
StreamerRoku 2 (Pure IP Control)

Economy






TVSony KDL40W600B (Pure IP Control)
Blu-ray/StreamerSony BDP-S5200 (Pure IP Control)


• Updated 11/4/2014

• Original Post updated 11/4/2014.

2013

Just installed Genie system with Genie and three client C-41 boxes. I can control the H-44 Genie via ip. Need to clean up the remote a bit but everything works Great. The client works via ip for all but power on /off. Anyone have a suggestion?

thanks

drdk

Had hoped the latest update would solve my issue but it did not. When searching to add new device, my C-41 is still recognized as a C-31. This is not a huge problem other than it just will not turn on and off via ip control. Again, any advice?

thanks

Power control issues with that model were previously reported:

devices-and-codes-archives/directv-genie-hr34-with-c31-clients-t8873.html

If you need the power commands for the C31/41 to operate in a different way, that's something DirecTV would need to change and that we would recommend reporting to them as a customer of theirs. We're issuing the official and documented commands. There's no difference from a control perspective between C31 and C41.

2013

Hi,

i recently obtained a secondhand global cache 100-12 which I intended to use with roomie. Unfortunately i cannot get the device working. I am assuming that the issue is to do with the firmware which is version 2 not above 3.0 as recommended.

I was wondering if someone could answer the following questions:

 

1) should the gc100 be automatically detected? (From its UDP announcements) , I cannot get roomie to detect the device. But it works fine for the manually configured relay switch.

2) what is the difference between the version 3 and 2 firmware and what causes the incompatibility with roomie?

Regards

 

rich

1. No, because the firmware is not 3.0.
2. There are many differences and fixes there.

We recommend the iTach series (even if you have a GC-100). Upgrading the GC-100 is a lengthy operation involving sending it back to the factory. Getting an iTach would be much better than that.

Thanks for the reply. I could see that the version 2 device does not perform the multicast announcements.

I have some good news in that I managed to get the version 2 device working with roomie. I took a look at the gc100 API and knocked up a node.js app that performed the multicast that seemed to be missing.

Once I did this roomie picked up the GC-100 and now works perfectly :slight_smile:.

If anybody needs any further details on my solution please let me know.

 

RIch

We would just note that discovery was only one of the issues there. It may appear to work because the basic interface is similar, but we would not be surprised if you find other issues down the road. Meanwhile though, if it works it works and that's great.

Hi Thanks for the reply. I'll keep an eye out for any instabilities.

I am very impresssed with roomie now I have full IR control in place. well done on a great app.

a user: I just ordered a "cheap" used GC100... before looking at this stream. Might you pls tell me if you are having any problem with Roomie + GC100 (serial and IR) and how you did manage the node.js app?

Unfortunately I cannot say, yet, if I've a version 2 or 3... (but Murphy suggests it will sure be a version 2;)

Many thanks!

Hi there. I'm in exactly the same boat. Bought a used gc-100 with 2.0 firmware. I'm in South Africa and I doubt upgrading the firmware will be easy. Getting access to your node.js solution will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Andreas.

Hi Jim / Acambitsis,

Sorry for the late reply. I actually stop using the gc-100 with roomie as I ran into some other issues. Just like the roomie guys said, every so often the GC-100 would stop working. It became quite annoying, such a shame.

I spoke to the guys at global cache and they advised that the unit could be updated...

2013

Preferably by the time the final version hits the public. It doesn't currently work on IOS 7. It updates devices on every launch... Then everything is blank.

 

thank you

It's safe to say there's no need to request iOS 7 support as that's a certainty. We're not just going to hack something together though. Our hope is to synchronize version 2.0 with iOS 7. Either way, there will be a version of Roomie available by the time iOS 7 is released that works well on iOS 7.

Note that our current plan involves deprecating iOS 5 in the same release. Version 1.9, due for release imminently, will continue to run on iOS 5 as will any maintenance releases it may receive (1.9.1, etc.)

Thank you.

Already ditching iOS5? Many people are still on iOS5 that missed the last jailbreak opportunity (6.1.2). I'm sure you have your reasons, but just figured I'd point this out. Just curious what you gain by removing support for older versions? Just leaner code?

+1 on NOT removing ios5 support.

The other reason is alot of people (like me), use older phones as remotes. An iphone 3gs or old iphone 4 is a perfect remote. Newer IOS version tend to be bigger and these phones have smaller memory, so they run slower with each system upgrade

The removal of iOS 5 support in Roomie 2.0 will be far more about iOS 7 than about iOS 5. Last August, we removed iOS 4 support. That meant losing the original iPhone 3G from the supported list. The intent is to support 2 iOS versions at any given time. So as of Roomie 2.0 that will be iOS 6 and 7.

We know how many users are on iOS 5 with Roomie. It's a very small number, and shrinking. We're talking about something that is about 4 months away. Anyone that needs to continue running iOS 5, which is iPad 1 users, can do so by copying the IPA file for Roomie 1.9.X out of their iTunes Media folder now or otherwise making a Time Machine backup for instance – in other words you can do this today if you anticipate that. You will then be able to restore that to your device indefinitely.

From a technical perspective, iOS 7 requires all hands on deck, it is a massive move. We are very excited about iOS 7, but it will need all of our resources and we will be updating things all the time to support iOS 7 that will not work on iOS 5. This is the classic conundrum that slows software development (multiple platforms being the real killer there). We effectively would need to rewrite portions of the app to work anew on iOS 5 in a way that also works on iOS 7 potentially making the iOS 7 implementation less great in order to suit the lowest common denominator of iOS 5.

What we would like to ensure is that those iPad 1 devices running iOS 5 with Roomie 1.9.X will still be able to work in a Roomie 2.0+ environment via Wi-Fi Synchronization, etc. As there will be at least one 1.9.X maintenance release, make sure if you fall into this category of iPad 1 users that you save the future IPA file as well.

Thank...

2013

This is referenced in the FAQ:

Roomie Remote Support

But I can't find the download anywhere. Does this exist? It would seem to solve the WiFi synch problem, as it's rare that all my Roomie devices will be active at the same time, so having a server-based Roomie that will always be on should be exactly what's needed.

Any tips?

It is "coming soon". As it's a Mac App, it's much easier to arrange beta testing for it than the sticky annual UDID process for iOS devices. Support can field requests for beta testing for both iOS and Roomie Agent for Mac OS. Please describe your general setup and number of Roomie devices when emailing that.

Thank you.

Any updates on this yet and are you still looking for beta testers

It's coming along nicely and very cool. That's our update for now. We may open up to more beta testers in a week or two, but for the moment we think we're good.

Thank you.

2013

Hi,

Just bought Roomie - great app!

I have a Denon 1912 hooked in to a Samsung UE60D8000 and all is working apart from powering up the Samsung TV. I'm aware of the Samsung shutting down it's network port when powered down and therefore not being able to power up from a network command.

On the Denon Receiver I've enabled Network Standby, so I can power up the Denon from Roomie.

My question is - is it possible to set the Denon to send a HDMI-CEC message to the Samsung TV to turn it on when the Denon is powered up?

I'm conscious that CEC is a dog, but wondered if anyone had any advice as to whether the above is possible?

Thanks in advance!!

Dan

Have the same issue and question.

With HDMI CEC, always assume the answer is no because it's mostly non-functional across manufacturers.

In general, Onkyo has the HDMI CEC implementation with the broadest compatibility. Not to say what you're proposing can't work, but only that nobody should ever depend on the idea that they will get CEC working because they probably wont.

2012

Hello,

I've got a configuration where we have a projector that I want on for every activity except one. Here's my problem.


I want to be able to switch between activities such a watching tv and apple tv, so I don't want a power on command in every activity (projector doesn't power down but goes 'black' for about 15 seconds if given power on command while powered on, epson 3010) but I want it to also auto-power-on when an activity is selected.

Normally, I'd do this by assigning it as 'power for all activities' the way I do with our Av Receiver, however I want to be able to listen to music in the room without the projector turning on.

On our Harmony remote the remote was 'smart' enough to realize the projector was already on, and not send the power-on command again. Is there a way to set Roomie to do this?

Thank you

Version 1.6 does have a solution for that without creating a new button/activity.

Meanwhile, the best solution in 1.5.X for that is probably to create a System On button that explicitly turns the projector on.

Okay great to have a workaround, and good to know you're working on fixing it!

2012

I was curious as to how extensive the integration of the Lutron RadioRa 2 is with Roomie. I will be having RadioRa2 installed in my home soon, what is possible? Since most of the rooms in my house will have lighting control, will I be able to set the lighting percentage, or off/on, from Roomie? Control multiple groups of lighting/shades? As I understand it, the integration is very similar to the lutron app itself, which would be great.

All of those items you mentioned are certainly part of the integration. Control any light, or you can even simulate button presses on a particular keypad for instance. There are also lift controls. In general, you should be able to do most anything the RadioRa2 can handle. There is a limitation of one lighting feedback per Virtual Remote right now which we'll lift in future release in case you want for instance to display the level of a particular light.

This sounds great, but I almost forgot. Will it be possible to control my Lutron thermostat as well?

2012

The 616 has several power commands. They're not at the top, they're in the POWER submenu of the Virtual Remote.

also the NR-616 has a great "Auto Stand By" ABS mode that will still respond to IP inputs so it can be consuming very little power and wake right up when Roomie askes

Thank you for the quick response and the tip on the auto stand by.

I've got it running now.

 

Cheers!

2012

Looking at the list I see that you currently support LG brand bluray players but not any LG TVs... do you plan on supporting them in the future? I'm in the market for a Panasonic or LG plasma, and currently for the same size on a comparable model the LG is $300-400 cheaper so I am leaning in that direction. I know the model I'm looking at (60PM6700) has wifi, ethernet, and serial.

LG's IP protocol is not one that can be derived and is unpublished. It took a lot of reverse engineering to get their BD players and it's safe to say we're not just the only app but probably the only piece of software that has LG IP BD (other than LG obviously).

We basically are stalled at acquisition as we will need extensive protocol traces to get the unpublished protocol details. Demand for LG IP has been light and we recently released serial support for LG TVs which made it even lighter. However, the new 2012 models have removed the serial ports. We're not sure yet what LG's recommended method is for 2012 models to turn on the units and whether they have included some kind of IP power mechanism which would be a compelling reason to add IP control.

Since you're considering the Panasonic, we'll put in a plug for that as the GT and VT models for 2012 are truly amazing from a picture quality perspective and are Panasonic's first models with true and full IP control including power. (pending Roomie 1.5's release which will include Wake on LAN support)

Back to LG, if there are any owners especially of 2012 models sufficiently technical to run a WireShark trace of the app talking to the TV, please let us know and perhaps we can work with you to get this in more quickly.

Hi,

 

I just bought an LG TV (55LM7600) and i cant make the remote work. Did anyone figured out if i should use IP or something else.

Thanks

At this point we're weeks away from CES 2013 so we'll ask the LG folks there what the plan is. Removing the serial ports and not supporting IP Power is not exactly a sustainable plan it seems. For now, we do still recommend pure IR for LG TVs unless you have some of the remaining serial models.

Are you setting up a booth at CES, or just attending?

CES is so big it's hard to know who even gets booths. We wont be exhibiting there this year. We are planning to exhibit at CEDIA 2013.

Which LG TVs are supported via serial IF? I have a 2010 model (60PK750) with a RS-232 port on the back.

If it has an RS-232 port in that year, it would work with the serial set we have in the main library.

My LG plasma has more than the two HDMI inputs that are currently available in the LG serial command list. HDMI1 and HDMI2 commands both work fine, can support be added for the other two HDMI inputs?

We can send you a command set update from support if you use the link on the right side of the page for that.

There seems to be some documentation for the LG IP protocol at 2012

Question: New to Roomie, was wondering if there will ever be integration for Security camera viewing and control added to Roomie, is it possible?

Staff response: This thread covers the multiple ways to add that to Roomie:

configuration-and-setup-archives/setup-cameras-t9545.html

Forum search on the website is somewhat broken right now so it is harder than it should be to find that thread. The forum search should be fixed this week.

2012

Question: I need some help with suggestions for controlling the following.
I am designing a basement with (5) samsung TV's. I have a samsung 65" LED in the middle with (4) 32" LED's around it. The center TV will be connected to a Denon AVR-1913 which will have a Direct TV box and a DVD player connected to it. The other TV's will have their own DTV Boxes connected directly to them. I have (2) itach's to IR for which i plan to have an emitter on each TV for control of each. The DTV boxes and the Deno...

Staff response: I have multiple televisions and multiple boxes and have run into the same challenge. The roomie app recognizes each DTV box by its IP address which is nice but when it comes to adding them as activities is when it gets tough. There is no way to see which DTV box you are adding to the activity because it only lists the model number rather then model and IP address. I use a matrix switch to choose which devices are on a certain television. My list of activites is 10 deep to cover everything.
I think you would have to do everything for the samsungs via IR and utilize the inputs on the Itach devices to control your televisions. You would need two Itachs. I do not even know how you would differentiate the boxes unless they were all different model numbers. I was told that in future release they may add a notes piece that will allow you to differentiate multiple devices of the same manufacturer.

I am really shocked this hasn't been requested more but I guess very few people other than business utilize more than 2 or so boxes to televisions.

I finally got mine working after working after hours of work. What I did was to unplug all boxes add one, add it as an activity, unplug it and add another and name that as activity, unplug both and add the third. Finally, it all worked. I really like their matrix switch integration... makes switching easy and might even allow for daisy chaining of matrix switches.

The solution is really nice and better than red eye so far but as with all software needs additional features and functionality as user requirements expand!

2012

Hi

Firstly thank you for a great product that once mastered is excellent.

A couple of ideas for future releases:

The abilty to disable the tv guide altogether. I find it obtrusive and being a Sky Customer in the UK, it is a little inaccurate. Some channels are in the wrong places (Sky organise channels depending on certain subscription criteria) and there are complete missing tv listings for a lot of the channels. As the tv screen guide is much easier to use, I don't see much benefit in trying to replicate it on the iPad. Other people will disagree so the flexibility of showing or hiding it would be useful.

Customisable commands in a pop up menu (collapsed code). My AV Receiver's Mode feedback display shows every sound mode my receiver has to offer, when only a few are actually needed or used. The ability to customise this by either selecting which commands with prefix MODE are included or, preferably, an add individual command option for the popup list.

The ability to create custom groups of buttons.

The ability to change the order of each group of buttons eg move the play control pad above the directional pad. Also would it be possible to use two columns for an iPad when viewed in landscape mode? Currently the remote doesn't fit on the screen and you have to scroll down the ipad to view the buttons at the bottom, making it a little ineligant.

+1 for the customisable collapsed buttons - it would also be good to be able to mix and match from different remotes (e.g. an activity's input button could include receiver inputs and tv inputs)

+1 for customisable groups - the templates are pretty good, I'm happy with top bar, media, directional, play control number and 'other', but it would be great to be able to include multiple versions and in any order. It would also be great it you could specify how they layout with different amounts of screen real estate available (e.g. with no guide, you could display directional and transport side-by-side in landscape mode)

Thinking about it, it'd be really cool to be able to save remote sections separately and then build a remote from the saved sections.

+1 for moving the group order of the virtual remote. I want the coloured buttons higher up on the remote, above the number keys (as per the REAL remote).

 

And finally, where is the graphical remote for SkyHD UK? I'm still finding myself using the hard remote supplied with the Sky box, as it's far more intuative.

Also +1 for removing the Guide, especially given Sky+ App. On that subject, how can one launch the sky app via the URL option?

 

And PLEASE, let's have SkyHD UK IP control :slight_smile:

The guide can already be disabled. Just open Guide Settings, tap Guide Setup, and then tap the guide off for any Activity you don't want the guide to appear.

We hear the other requests here and certainly some of them are planned.

+1 for mix and match buttons for activity remotes I have several t...

2012

I have several Onkyo TX-NR709 Amps with lots of equipment connected to each. Needless to say, the port labled 'Game' on the amp does not have a console connected to it. Within the Onkyo settings I have the abilty to rename the port to say whatever I want (in this case SKY+ HD2, I have multiple Sky boxes), so when an input is changed the OSD and the front of the amp (on it's screen) display what is actually connected. Because this amp is controllable via IP and supports feedback roomie can display what input port is currently being displayed on the the screen, however it will only display the physical name of the port (the manufacurers set name) and not my custom names. If I had the abily to change/alter/give an alias to a name/input that would be great. At the moment is causes a bit of confusion for some of the people that use the system as it looks like they are not on the input that they should be on.

I will soon have a similar situation on my Xantech multiroom system that I am currently writing the serial codes for. This also supports feedback and queries so all I will get back will be input 1, input 2 etc etc and not what is actually connected (sky, dvd, music server etc). would just make things a little more user friendly for those not 'in the know'.

I too would love this feature

this could be done one or both of two ways, import the custom input name data from the Onkyo receiver and/or an in-app custom label function.

+1 on this feature.

 

Pioneer VSX-1122K

+2 on this feature.

Pioneer SC-25

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Yes please this would be such a basic but well needed feature!

+1 for denon avr

+ another for Onkyo pr-sc886

I need to request this feature as well. It is something which can be done. Pioneer's icontrolAV5 app is doing it already. Please consider this since it is very useful and it even looks more professional on Roomie's interface.

+1 for Pioneer

+1 for Onkyo support! Sucks that EISCP doesn't expose the custom name (at least as far as I know.) Would be super awesome if Roomie just picked that up on the fly. Ah well.

+1 for Onkyo

And another for Onkyo PR-SC886

2012

I'm building a new house and would like to have all of my equipment in a dedicated rack in the basement. Is there a way that I can setup Roomie to control my upstairs TV from the rack in the Basement? Can I select either of my two DirecTV DVRs or say a DVD player as the source for any of the TVs in the house?

It is possible to use extension cables for the iTach like these here:

astore.amazon.com/cyphersoft-20? ... TF8&node=9

So you can run a 50' or longer emitter cable. You can also splice emitter cables into CAT5 lines for very long runs and then splice them back to an emitter at the other end. A simpler option may be a WF2IR at the TV location of course.

How you accomplish video distribution itself is not something Roomie accomplishes directly. Normally you'd use a receiver for that kind of thing.

Exactly. What I am trying to do is emulate my dad's AMX system with this remote interface. What I am trying to figure out is if they sell receivers that wil play multiple zones at a time, and if I could get that to work with Roomie. I suppose I could do multiple receivers. Any idea on an equipment list? Ultimately I would like the four TVs that will be in the house to play any source at any time. I also need to figure out soon what type of wiring I need to go where. Maybe this is a question better suited for the AVS forum.

What you want is a matrix switcher with splitter support. This is very different from an AV receiver. My recommendation would be to get one that supports HDMI audio and then have your tv audio out run to an amp in that room. That would be the cleanest way to do it. Otherwise you are looking at spending over 8000 for an av receiver that also does matrix switching

Here is an example octavainc.com/HDMI%20matrix% ... 204x4.html


Questionst to ask yourself :
A: do you ever want two tvs to display the same source?
B: where will audio be decoded/amplified?
C: do you want 3d capability?
D: how far are your runs?

Here's why
A: a switch matrix allows you to route any input to any output, however it does not allow you to 'clone' an image to two outputs. For that you need a matrix switch with a splitter function as well. Again, more pricy....

B: it would be least expensive to pass audio in the HDMI signal and then decode it on the tv end. My guess is you have a. 5.1 audio system with each tv? If so give up the dream of having EVERYTHING in the basement or you will be running six speaker wires to every room, which will degrade the audio signal and cause you tons of future problems. Instead, I would suggest you send digital audio to the tv, then use the tv's optical out to pass that to a 5.1/ whatever point whatever decoder and amplifier.

C: think about future proofing. Do you want 4k resolution capability? Personally I hate 3d, but I ran 4k capable HDMI cabl...

2012

Would it be possible to add an option for an activity so you when run it prompts you to ask you if you want to run the start commands? The prompting could be optional of course.

Often I want to run an event to switch to a custom remote design but without running the start commands. I dont want to have to have 2 separate activities for everything with one doing the command and another not. Unless there is another way of doing this?

The general goal is to make sure that Activities can be opened multiple times in succession without issues. There are rare cases where that isn't possible, but certainly it is the design goal. Is there a reason the Activity in question can't be re-opened?

If the activity contains power toggle then this creates a problem if the device is already on since the device will thn be turned off.

Right, so you could either separate that device out into a System On as the general solution, or, in many cases, there is an alternate way to turn devices on depending on the device. For instance sending Play to a Panasonic Blu-ray Player is a forced power on.

I think this will do it just could end up with a few devices on when they don't need to be. Unfortunately all my devices only have power toggle and not power on/off separation which would be the ideal solution of course. Thanks for help.

2012

Device Compatibility Reports

**Hello, I'm a lifetime Roomie Remote subscriber, and mainly a user of the macOS app.

I keep the Roomie Remote macOS app open at all times on my Mac.

Recently I've started using usb game controllers (the likes of "8bitdo" joypads) to play games and emulators on my Mac.

My issue: if Roomie Remote is open (even if it's not in the foreground), it intercepts the button presses from my game controller and uses them to control Roomie Remote itself (e.g.: L1 for mute, L2 for volume down, R2 for volume up, D-pad for up/down/left/right, etc.). So I'm forced to close Roomie Remote every time I want to begin a gaming session, otherwise I'll accidentally do weird stuff to my media theater. (imagine me playing a videogame on my Mac while on the sofa, my wife nearby watching TV and suddenly I accidentally change the channel or mute the volume with my button presses on the gamepad)

Is there a way to stop Roomie Remote from doing this?
A general "disregard all game controller button presses" box to tick?

Thanks in advance

2024

Question: Version 9.2.0 introduces 2 new commands to the Local Control interface.

The updated documentation is here.

The first new command is just a simplified syntax for activity execution that is easier to run from a browser or some other device that doesn't handle the body json syntax.

The second new command takes advantage of our new support for audio media files and plays a sound on all active controllers. This c...

Staff response: Version 9.2.0 introduces 2 new commands to the Local Control interface.

The updated documentation is here.

The first new command is just a simplified syntax for activity execution that is easier to run from a browser or some other device that doesn't handle the body json syntax.

The second new command takes advantage of our new support for audio media files and plays a sound on all active controllers. This can for example be used to create a doorbell or various other intercom scenarios.

Enjoy!

What is the use case for that one?

Fixed.

2024

I have a few, maybe 5, devices with rs232 but no ip/telnet connection, so I had a look at the recommended IP2SL iTach devices. The PoE version is £179 in the uk, so £900 ($1128).

This seems very expensive just to connect 5 devices , largely av systems. Is the an alternative product that people in the uk use, or perhaps 5 port hub option? Network traffic must be tiny, so I assume if the serial ports are still individually addressable, then that could be an option.

Not sure what you're looking at. The IP2SL first of all is an ancient deprecated product nobody should be buying. It is a mystery why it is still being sold. Even when we sold them many years ago I would ask why it still exists. Anyway, the iTach Flex here in the US is currently $99:

https://amzn.to/3IbwIdS

PoE is $121:
https://amzn.to/3W8C27j

The Serial Cable is a generic white box on Amazon right now so I'm not going to link to that since I'm not sure what it is – the people who put GC products on Amazon have no relation to GC and it can sometimes be a comical mess like this. This is the cable needed, from a site that lists the products properly:

https://www.homecontrols.com/Global-Cache-Flex-Link-Serial-Cable-GCFLEXRS232

So that's $25. Total per unit therefore $146 US, or 117 GBP. That totals 585 GBP if you need 5.

Looks like better prices in the US.

The iTach Flex is £140 and the Link Cable is £30, so still at £170per device in the UK. Are there any 4 port hubs that work with a single ethernet port, and are cheaper per RS232 port?

I see a few other companies:
Lindy
Startech

and I wonder if anyone has had any success?

Feel free to experiment with other devices. Anything that provides a serial relay via TCP/IP should work fine.

However, I'm not clear on why you can't just order from the US. We used to ship them internationally all the time and certainly the prices we offered were global.

By the time I’d paid duty/admin/vat on import, the price would be the same as from the uk globalcache website.

I’ll try some alternatives

2023

Question: Hello All,

I'm having difficulty trying to create a new Custom Serial Device in the App. I have the code set from Sim2 for my projector but I'm obviously doing something wrong as I'm not able to get it to work. I'm more than willing to compensate whomever is willing to help me with this!

Thanks!

Felipe

Staff response: Post the info and what you have.

If you post the info, I'll take a look at it. That sample is not "the info". When I say that, I mean the whole thing. The first stuff you would need is everything other than the code that explain what to do with the code and the formatting.

Custom Code Set: Sim2
Method: binary

Code Format is (this is the 0/On/Input code):
\\xBE\\xEF\\x02\\x06\\x00\\x6B\\xE6\\x52\\x01\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00

Easily created right inside the app. Make sure to use the right names like "POWER ON" above. Format the other codes the same way.

2023

Is there a way to force sync the iCloud configuration similar to the way you can force sync HomeKit devices?

I worked several hours configuring a room on one of my iPads and the changes are not syncing to my other devices. The devices are up to date running ios 15.5.1. App version is 7.4 build 2408.

I don’t want to uninstall/reinstall the app before getting help here because I presume I would lose all my work.

As far as local changes, just make a backup.

If you have a sync problem, this is the fix procedure:
Sync or purchase restoration

2022

Anyone using IP control for the Arcam PA240/720 amplifiers? Really just on/off, but I need to use it versus the trigger cable since I am picking up all kinds of noise with the trigger.

Got it figured out. Just created a PA series custom device and added the on/off codes. Works like a champ!

2022

Curious as to which TVs have best/most consistent IP control (especially on/off) currently? Specifically comparing Sony OLEDs to LG OLEDs. I currently have an LG OLED and the on/off IP control is okay but not rock solid. Searched the archives but couldn't find anything relatively recent. Thanks for any opinions/experience!

I just don't think people think this way anymore. That's how I looked at things in 2015. Today, there really aren't TVs without great IP control in the big leagues. Sure, if you get a TCL or other low-end TV, mileage may vary. Similarly, buying any TV from CostCo or similar outlets will sometimes end up with features stripped out including Wake on LAN in some cases.

But these issues are very rare. Stick to majors like Sony, LG, Samsung, and don't buy special low-cost models and you're fine these days. Picture quality is once again the leading driver of why to buy a TV.

(The opposite is true of Blu-ray players. Avoid anything other than Sony X700/X1100, and most especially do not buy Panasonic.)

Good to know. I also have been researching this topic as well because I would like to get away from IR blasters all together. I have been looking at Samsung, LG, and Sony as well, but it isn't specifically listed in most of the spec sheets.

I have an LG Oled and that works fine. Had no problems at all controlling it over ip.

2021

Most Homebar categories are organized by room. But the left-most climate category is not. All climate (thermostat) devices appear in all rooms. Also, it's not clear to me how those devices are ordered (see the attached screen grab).

Is there anyway to modify this behavior (other than hiding some of the devices from the homebar)?

Jeff

Thermostats do not typically associate by room, so the conceptual association is reversed. We list thermostats individually once inside the Homebar. But the key association is that each room is associated with a Thermostat in the Rooms panel. That is the Thermostat used for the Homebar display (before you tap the HB button), and will also be the Thermostat used when you tap it. That’s how you control which one is selected when you open the HB panel and which one is displayed based on which room you’re in.

Will,

Thanks very much :grinning:

Missed that in the rooms settings. Thanks again!

Jeff

2021

Reminder that as happens every year, Roomie's minimum iOS/iPadOS will be increased from 13.X to 14.5 as of the next major release this Fall, Roomie 7.

Because the current AppleTV control is broken by tvOS 15 requiring a total re-work of that area, Roomie 7 is required for continued AppleTV control if you update to tvOS 15. Until Roomie 7 is released, we recommend not updating unless you also have an IR blaster wired for your AppleTV.

According to Apple's opt-in statistics, only 0.3% of our users are running a pre-iOS 14 release, but for those who are, now is the time to engage your plan to update to at least iOS 14.5. It should be a particularly simple year for that upgrade as iOS 14 supports all devices on iOS 13.

2021

Hi, I have multiple Samsung TV's including the new Terrace model and seem to have the same problem with all of them.
I can search for devices and find the TV's , I can then add them and test get the message on screen to allow control and that works but as soon as I save the device and go back and try to use it nothing works.
Any ideas ? Have IP control turned on.

Jon

Most likely your config is not properly synchronized such that your Primary is not receiving relays. Support provides a step by step process to resolve that.

You could also try just turning off Relay in the Advanced panel of that device, but that's just a quick fix, you need to make sure your primary is properly setup.

Thx Will, I turned off relay and that indeed cured the issue.
I have an iPad Pro hard Wired via an Ethernet adapter and with a Fixed IP, Network access allowed
while running it in Guided access. May I ask where I find the support article on how to get the primary
set up better than this please ?
I have just ordered a new MacMini with M1 Apple chip can run IOS apps natively so will likely make that my new primary as have a lot of devices.

2020

Soon, we'll be removing the old Simple Control 5 app from the App Store. If you have already downloaded it in the past, it will remain available to you in your purchase history indefinitely. For anyone else, it will not be visible or accessible.

We have multiple years of advancements since that old app in the modern app. Leaving the old V5 app on the store causes constant confusion – no doubt some users think that old app represents the current state of things.

The reason we left it up so long is that in principle it can be used for things like guest access for those still on that system. For that reason, I am posting this note so you can take care of any final needs in the coming days.

For anyone still on the old app, the time has come to update to the modern V6 app. We recommend immediately moving to the modern app following the instructions here: Community Knowledge Base

Subscriptions transfer over to the new app automatically. Use these instructions if you have an old subscription to ensure smooth transition:
Community Knowledge Base

Following the 5 month notice per message above, the old app is now removed. If you were a previous downloader of that app, you can still download it in your App Store purchase history.

Note that as of iOS 14.5 which will likely be released very soon by Apple, we expect most functionality in the old SC5 app to stop working due to multicast networking changes on the iOS side. Roomie Remote 6.7.1+ (the current version) is required for iOS 14.5+, and all prior releases will mostly not work. As we have said since mid-2017, the time to upgrade to the modern app is right now.

2020

Hi all
Roomie finds the Marantz which is all good, also had feedback plus volume. But I can't understand why the Dpad is not working. The Mac address is the same , its on port 23 but not luck with the Dead. Ive had to use an IR device for the Marantz to get it working. The Marantz app works so ... Am I doing anything wrong ? Is there another port no that is meant to be used ?

Thanks
Again

Some Marantz/Denon models have multiple DPads when controlling via IP. It's super confusing to put it in a gentle/positive way. The commands are there for each DPad, but you the user need to determine which DPad to use at any given time. For the primary case of the setup menu, version 6.5 actually gives you a second DPad in the tray for the device. You can add a Custom Module to create such a DPad now as well of course using the MENU CURSOR [..] commands.

2020

There is no mention of any TCL TVs in the IP compatibility section. Would it be possible to control them?

TCL P8, C715, P715 series to be specific.

There are a ton of "Roku TVs" of many brands such as TCL, Insignia, etc. Roku TVs are supported.

2020

Post:
Is anyone else having issues controlling newer Roku streaming sticks via Roomie v6? The issue for me is it seems to be about 70% of the time; a direction arrow button (doesn't matter which direction) pressed once in Roomie causes multiple presses of the button to be sent to the device. I've gone back to using Roku remotes in some cases due to frustration. It happens from more than one of the client devices whether it's a newer gen 7 iPad or an iPhone 7. I had no issues in v5.

It would be helpful to know if it's only impacting me or if it's a broader issue.
Thanks

2020

**Hey there,
So i have made the switch to the Latest version of Roomie Remote. I have lots of Activities and routines that involved Applescripts running on my host Mac mini.. Any tricks to regain this functionality? Apologies in advance if I am missing something simple. I also use SmartThings, so maybe I will have to bridge through that device. Thoughts appreciated... Thanks!
~JB

**I’d love that too! Unfortunately in the latest macOs there is no more telnet option, so I am also looking for a solution. I have many applescripts that are just dead at the moment.... I tried the remote buddy solution, but I don’t particularly like it. Thanks

**Update;
So I was able to bring scripts back with the addition of HAM Bridge for Mac.
https://solutionsetcetera.com/about-ham-bridge.html .

Runs as a web server listening for a command, to launch AppleScripts among other things. I think it was $40.00 and does NOT run on CATALINA...so I had to move it to an older server Mac Mini.... but it has brought back all of my Applecripts. HTH....
~JB

2020

Hello - I've just repurposed an old iPhone 5S to act as a simple hub. After some issues paring the ipods I have around the house everything seems to be working well - most of the time time. I've followed the instructions and prevented time-outs and put into guided mode, however I notice that the phone will go to sleep regardless of the settings I make - albeit after several hours. Any suggestions?
Also from time to time the clients don't seem to connect to the hub - is this likely to be due to wifi and therefore, as the manual suggests connecting the iOS device to ethernet would be better - presumably this is for a more robust connection? What do I need to do this?
This
Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter
along with a generic USB to ethernet adaptor?

Totally normal and covered by the locked top post in this forum:

Turn off Guided Access if you're on iOS 12 is the moral of the story.

We do recommend Ethernet for more reliable connectivity of course, but relying on a 5S will be a bigger issue than Wi-Fi vs. Ethernet. The best choice as covered elsewhere is to use the same iPad that is (ideally) already used as your primary living room controller as your Simple Hub, and that iPad when put into service should be whatever is the most modern iPad at the time which will give it the best longevity over the years. Whereas choosing a 5S for instance is guaranteed to make you re-do everything soon as it will be the next device to go.

2019

Post:
Hi,
When I’m listening to something on my iPhone and quickly switch over to simple control, whatever it is that I’m listening to stops playing on my phone.
Is there something I need to do within my phone so this doesn’t happen?

Sounds like you have "Volume Hard Buttons" turned on. That means whenever you're in Simple Control, we take over the system volume/player. If you use that device for playing other stuff frequently, you probably want to turn that off.

Post:
Hey Will,
Just checked and I have that option off.
Just did a little bit of testing and found out that the issue only happens when the open is initially open.. so, if I have the app open in the background and start playing music and then switch over to the app the music continues playing just fine. But, if I have music playing and I open the app, then it stops the music.

2019

I'm in the planning stages of a new build home. I'm loving SC 5.5 in my apartment and intend to use it as the central control with the new house.

Its been several years since my last install when I went down the Insteon/ISY route and I'm looking for guidance on what direction to go with the new place.

Its going to be a 4 bed home with switches, powered shades, ceiling fans, central HVAC and connected Audio.

I'm feeling pretty good about sticking to Sonos for the audio and using Ecobee 3's as thermostats but I'm unsure on the rest.

My priority is seamless integration so I'm attracted to sticking with Homekit devices but I intend to use Alexa for voice control.

On switches I'd normally go Insteon, but I'm put off by the ISY not being Homekit friendly. I'm also not thrilled about using the Insteon hub as an alternative. Should I consider Lutron Caseta or even iDevices?

For the ceiling fans I love the Haiku range, but I'm assuming Simple Control isn't going to be compatible with them anytime soon. Given that it looks like the Hunter Douglas Symphony may have to do.

Appreciate any thoughts/opinions!

Planning on a new build comes way before install, so recommendations now might be out of date then.

A key question is whether to wire for Lutron Homeworks QS. It is a question that must be dealt with up front because it affects virtually every electrical wire and where it goes. It would be my preferred choice for a new build. Going downscale from that would be Radio RA 2, not Caséta which is more of an apartment/small solution.

Insteon in my opinion would not be a common choice for a new build. That's more of a retrofit solution. At this point all of my lighting suggestions would be different types of Lutron which are then controlled either directly and/or via the Lutron HomeKit bridge.

I can tell you from personal experience that Caseta works very well in a home that size (I have a 4 bedroom/4200sf home with over 80 caseta devices (including remotes). You will need 2 hubs, and everything is then controlled through homekit or simplecontrol. The system is very reliable, both hubs are in a central location where my router is and I have no issues with range.

Homeworks QS is a pretty amazing system, but when I was building the cost for the system was close to $40-50K....couldn't justify that in the home I was building (ie. not a $1.5mil+ home).

2018

One of the cool advantages of HomeKit, as it gains traction, is the ability to incorporate devices from different companies and protocols (hub based, Wifi, Bluetooth to ATV) into scenes that can then be controlled via Siri and HomeKit automation. It would be great if these HomeKit Scenes were also exposed in Simple Control so they can be controlled from activities, etc. without having to re-create them in SC too.

Thanks!

Dave

My advice: whatever you do, don't use Homebridge. A bunch of users say it works fine with us, but ya. Personal advice.

Anyway, you will be able to do that kind of thing with Siri Custom Intents. You'll be sending commands to us via Siri, and if you want to control HomeKit devices as part of that, you can. So you need to reverse your wording, but the effect is basically the same. We're only scratching the surface of it now, but I'm excited about it and think it will be at least as capable as the Alexa integration.

2018

Hello all,

Is there a recommended iPod Dock to use with Simple Control. Ideally it would make the meta data available in the app. Thanks.

I can hardly remember what an iPod Dock was, but you would probably need some pretty old equipment to make that work with feedback. Something like an old Denon receiver might work. From roughly the 2014 era. It's possible one of the intelligent speakers like MusicCast or HEOS brought forward some old iPod Dock functionality that we would work with.

2018

it'd be great to have that feature added.

Has IP control for the Arcam AV860/Lexicon MC10 been added yet?

As a reminder, this is a user-to-user forum, so this question seems unlikely to be answered unless a user with that specific model encounters it. If you have a specific question like that, support is the correct way to figure that out.

2018

I found some old postings from 2012 on the Niles ZR6; however, has is anyone using the recent SimpleControl version 5 to control their ZR6? If so, exactly how is it connected and how is it working? Does it allow you to control most functions on all six zone? Is there still no two way "feedback' to see the status of a zone (volume, source...)? Thank you in advance!

I am using a ZR6 via an itach serial adapter to the serial port of the ZR6. I think the 2 way volume feedback worked with the old system but on some sources but not all the time. Never really figured it out. I am still learning the new format but for the most part the commands I had prior mapped over with the new version.

2018

We have a large heos implementation being installed in our new home and would love to see group speaker controls added to SC. Thanks!

9 HEOS devices here. Right now having to juggle between Simple Control, HEOS app, and Amazon Music.

+1. Any updates here?

I joined the forum specifically to respond to this thread and ask if it would be possible to add group control for HEOS.

There are commands in Roomie that look like they correspond to the group commands in the HEOS API. The ".GROUP SET" command could be used but there's no way to get the numbers of the devices you want to add. I think that would come from the ".GROUP INFO" command but I don't think there's a way in Roomie to parse the response of that command and use it.

I'm a +1 on this.

2018

Hello fellow users,

First time long time, I began using Roomie in 2012, and haven't used a physical remote since (except for Apple TV!). I have (3) Apple TV 3's, and (1) Apple TV 4. All are updated to the newest software versions. Each of the Apple TV 3 have been restored from iTunes. None of them are subject to the recall. All of them are hardwired LAN (I prefer this).

My Apple TV3's do not regularly wake on lan, and often drop control while in use (go back to "matching" or "verifying" phase in the edit device screen. This is after it having worked fine. The Wake on Lan also has issues, and works on occasion. I gave each of the Apple TVs static IPs, and they do stick. This increased reliability a little bit, but it is still a frustrating experience (especially for my wife, kids, and guests!). I began to assume that the Apple TVs, while not subject to the recall, have the same defects as the recalled units, so I bought an Apple TV 4, assuming it would solve my issues.

I love the Apple TV4 interface, what a massive improvement in UI/Os. However, the wake-on-lan NEVER works. I successfully linked the device in the App, but the same issues occur as in the 3, "verifying" or "matching" state in the device list. I have not given this a static IP yet, but that doesn't seem to be the issue in the others, so I figured it's not on this either. The unit is hard wired. I have excellent WiFi in my home, so I could try that again, but I prefer hardwire gigabit when I can.

Equipment in the chain:
1) Fios Quantum Gateway (AC 1750) G1100 - Assigns IPs, wifi off
2) Asus AC-88u - provides the wireless networks, and plugs in to the network switch
3) NETGEAR JGS524NA 24-Port Gigabit Ethernet - Distributes hardwired connections throughout the house
4) NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch (GS608NA) - Takes the line from the 24 port and distributes it throughout the master bed room
5) Apple TV4 and TV3, both hardwired.

6) The other Apple TV3s are connected directly to the 24 port switch.

I'm at a loss, and have been at this for a while. Running out of energy, but paying a professional to do this is probably a 5 figure job in my area. Not interested in that, and don't really want to go with a Roku or Fire TV. I do have two fire TV sticks, and they work perfectly over IP, as do all my other IP devices (iTachs, Insteon, etc). Thanks for your help.

Some Apple TV 3 units had wake issues as you note.

No Apple TV has ever supported Wake on LAN. They are either set to stay awake in which case they are easily (when working) awoken by any command, or they're not in which case you need to IR wake them.

I've never heard of an Apple TV 4 with a wake issue to date. When configured properly in Settings, any command wakes them. If your ATV3 is configured properly and does not wake reliably, it probably has the hardware issue. I would recommend a Blaster in your equipment rack as a backup in that case. All it needs to do is turn it on.

But, these days, TBH, better to just replace with ATV4 that has no wake issues (when configured as such). It sounds like your confusion is mainly that Wake on LAN played some role with Apple TV which it does not. Wake on LAN works with very specific devices that have chosen to support it. Many devices simply turn on via normal commands at any time. Apple TV is one of those if you didn't make the mistake of sleeping it.

Ok. So that all makes sense to me. So 1) what setting is messed up on the ATV3 ? 2). What about the ATV4? Something about auto sleep??

I think you can't get it wrong on an ATV4. I just checked one I am certain wakes all the time and it is set to auto-sleep in 1 hour, so even a sleeping ATV4 works fine. I don't have an ATV3 in front of me to check, but definitely you want to set anything that sounds like sleep/wake to wake.

Thanks for the responses.

Any idea about the drop in control, when state transitions to “matching”/“verifying “ and codes sent show up red?

That "matching" stuff is totally irrelevant. The UI in V5 has been improved to remove that. Too many users though it had something to do with control or connectivity. It does not.

Red commands mean the target device is not responding. So that would be presumably a misconfigured or problem ATV3.

I love the Apple TV4 interface, what a massive improvement in UI/Os. However, the wake-on-lan NEVER works. I successfully linked the device in the App, but the same issues occur as in the 3, “verifying” or “matching” state in the device list. I have not given this a static IP yet, but that doesn’t seem to be the issue in the others, so I figured it’s not on this either. The unit is hard wired. I have excellent WiFi in my home, so I could try that again, but I prefer hardwire gigabit when I can.

My AppleTV (Gen 4) works fine with Simple Control (even if it's fallen asleep). I just check this Activity startup-commands for you. Actually, it's just list ones for the other devices (amp, etc.). I'm also using wired, but with a Fixed IP. If not using static IP, I suggest you at least Reserve it's IP at Router.

I can't really help with AppleTV-3 models. Just so you know, that is a completely different machine from AppleTV-Gen4 and recently released Apple-TV-4K (which instead run on the newer tvOS).

I also had an issue with my AT4 not waking up. I worked with apple support on the issue and suggested the issue was most likely caused by an ethernet switch. I moved to a wifi connection (luckily right next to an airport express) with a fixed IP and it seemed to have solved the issue.

2017

Hi-

I've got a new Sony STR-ZA810ES. It supports IP control, but I can find no documentation anywhere on what ports it uses or what the setup settings mean. I nmpapped the device and see the following open ports:

PORT STATE SERVICE
80/tcp open http
5000/tcp open upnp
8008/tcp open http
8009/tcp open ajp13
10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
10001/tcp open scp-config
22222/tcp open unknown
33335/tcp open unknown
33336/tcp open unknown
50002/tcp open iiimsf
52323/tcp open unknown
54400/tcp open unknown
60151/tcp open unknown
64321/tcp open unknown

You'll notice that manh are different from the ports that simplecontrol claims to support on sony es devices. SC says they support the str-dn810es. This is an str-za810es. They look identical but is there some difference?

Additionally there are a bunch of settings in the receiver setup that I can't figure out what they do:

"Connection Server Settings"
There doesn't seem to be anything I can "set". It just says "Set whether to display connected servers" Serve name.
What are connected servers in this context???

"Auto Home Network Access Permissions"
This is set to on, but what does it do? Undocumented.

"Home Network Access Control"
There is a "controller name" for my sony bravia tv in here set to "allow" but I can't do anything else in this screen to add simple control as a remote for the receiver.

Finally there is "registered remote devices". It's empty and I can't seem to do anything to register a new device.

I contacted sony support, but they referred me to "ES support" and they don't answer the phone. . I've been on hold for 50 minutes. There's nobody there. I used to have a "premium" association with the sony brand but no more. I don't even expect a business with customer service like that to be in business in 5 years.

Anybody know how I can register my simple control remote??

Oh last thing, I have this device wired. Does control only work over the wifi interface or something? I haven't gotten a peep out of it on any port I've tried.

I finally talked to somebody at Sony who kind of knows whats going on, after nearly 9 calls and 2.5 hrs on hold. Sears Roebuck and Kmart have nothing on Sony in the "former glory circling the drain" department.

in short he told me that "IP support" in this device means this device uses CIS1 serial command set wrapped "over IP". He said the command set on the STR-ZA810ES is identical to the STRDN1080. He also said that there's no authentication needed, which I'm not sure that I believe.

After a bit of cajoling he provided some internal documentation of the command set, though I've yet to find any mention of the proper port. I've tried nearly every variation of model and port that I can think of with simple control with not even as much as a peep of response from the device, even though from the simple control side it looks like the commands are being sent properly.

The most notable thing about these docs is that they seem to have been created in the year 2000 and updated each model year since. Yep, Sony is selling a device with 17 year old technology in it and passing it off as "ip enabled".

Then again simple control seems to claim that this device is supported, and provides 2-3 cryptic lines in a spreadsheet as their only documentation, which is equally appalling.

I mean look, below is what simple control has to offer by way of docs. Pretty much nonsensical. I'm slowly working my way through the matrix of every model type on every port number, but I've got nothing yet. Not even a peep back from the device.

Sony\tSTR-ZA1100ES, STR-ZA2100ES, STR-ZA3100ES, STR-DN810ES, STR-DN1070 (2016)
STR-DN1060, STR-ZA5000ES (2015)
STR-ZA1000ES, STR-ZA2000ES, STR-ZA3000ES, STR-DN850, STR-DN1050 (2014)
STR-DN1040 (2013)
STR-DN1030, STR-DA1800, STR-DA2800, STR-DA5800 (2012)
DN1030 does not provide feedback.\t

Zones 1 and 2
Manual IP
Port 8080 (STR-DA1800, STR-DN1030)
Port 50001 (STR-DN1060)
Port 33336 (DN-1070 & CISv2)
Port 33335 (All Others)

Volume, Mute, Power, Input

SimpleControl also offers the suggestion that maybe connecting with the vendor supplied app is necessary before controlling the device, but there doesn't seem to be one from Sony.

Well it's now 2:15 am here on the west coast and I've been trying to get simple control to be able to control my Sony STR-ZA810ES since I woke up this morning at 8. I finally succeeded. Here's the secret sauce.

I finally found an IOS app Named Video & TV SideView. Using this app I was able to "register" my ios device with the 810ES such that it now shows up in the Network Settings -> Home Network Access Control list with my iphone's mac address as "allowed". It also shows up in the "registered devices" list. It seems that Sony support's contention that no remote registration or authentication is necessary is erroneous.

Once the device was registered, in Simple Control, I was able to add the 810ES as a manual IP device, using the DN-1070 zone one device type and it works.... mostly. I don't see all of the receiver modes that this particular model supports, and I find it a bit annoying that the inputs use the default names rather than the better, user supplied nicknames. It also shows you all your inputs, even ones that you've "hidden" from the sony interface.

Welp, that only took 18 hours to work out. If the Video & TV SideView app can work out discovery and registration with sony devices, why can't Simple Control?

You are using an unsupported device. You got it working. That's great. The list of devices we list as supported is not "every device possible to support". It also means devices we do not list often can work completely or partially.

I would also note that contacting our support is likely to have been a far less time consuming method to come to the same conclusion as we have far more experience getting devices working even for things we don't officially support.

Yes, I now understand that this is an "unsupported" device.I thought that the STR-DN810ES and STR-ZA810ES were either similar or exactly the same.

2017

I have several older Samsung TV's that I control with the Global Cache devices via EX-Link serial control that work very reliably. I was excited to see that the newer Samsung TV's 2017 models support power control via IP and purchased a Samsung UN49MU7000 however it seems that Simple Control Version 5 only supports power toggle mode when powering the device on. Is there not a discrete power control on the device as like there is with the EX-Link connection. Also, it also seems via IP control there is no way to select the HDMI input as with the EX-Link connection. Is this something that may be resolved in the future, or a limitation with IP control of the device?

Thanks,

Scott

Most televisions of all brands do not have a direct POWER ON command. They are usually +WAKE ON LAN models.

In the case of modern Samsung TVs, they are usually +WAKE ON LAN models. They are turned on by following the KB article on that:

Samsung 2017 IP does have a SOURCE command to switch inputs. Commands for discrete inputs have not been discovered as yet, but it's certainly possible that could change at any time.

2017

Hello,

Been using 4.5 for a while, loving it. I have a straightforward setup - IP connection to my AVR & PJ, and simple blaster IR to my xbox one. Everything works well, except there are some settings on the Yamaha that I can't seem to control. Specifically SubWoofer volume. I can set this via the Yamaha's ipaddress/setup config web page, or via OSD using the original remote, or the Yamaha App however I’d rather stay in one app to do everything I need.

Sub volume is something I often tinker with, as soundtrack/music mixes vary a lot in terms of how much LFE there is and late at night I tend to want to turn it down.

I can't figure a way to add this particular volume control to the Yamaha Remote Template.

Any ideas?

I also have a Yammy AV receiver. I have found that while SC gives me something like 300+ available commands, it's not enough. For example, most notably, the "ON SCREEN" button (which brings up the settings) isn't available via SC. Also, when you select ON SCREEN, the cursor set changes. I had to create a new device that was the receiver with IR control (via a blaster). Then I learned the additional commands. When I send those commands, I do it via the IR receiver device. Sounds kludgy huh? As long as I have a cable DVR (comes free with the neighborhood), I will need IR. Adding another IR device was no big deal.
I'm guessing your SW volume is one of those commands. Good luck.

2017

Anyone with HEOS in multiple rooms up and running? I am curios how it works in the UI. Does it work exactly the same as Sonos in regards to Guide and Volume/Grouping or is it different? Appreciate any insight!

Dave

please follow this article, because it,s big lesson that why i am not able to write full

denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/d ... ios-device

2017

Ability to set up a template for common controls in Remote Design.
For example - Light Control template would consist of button with pre-selected light bulb icons for on/off, pre-selected HA controller, commands for Light On/Light Off. Also part of the template is a slider button for the same Node. Adding template would require to select the Node once for entire template. Once template based control is added the user may tweak individual parameters such as commands or icons. Basically act as an instance of the class that inherits the properties. Templates can be either user defined or SC has some popular presets added to the list of choices.

Currently when setting up a Light you need to select a Node 4 times : 1 for brightness level on the button, 2 and 3 for On/Off commands and 4th time for brightness feedback on the slider.

2017

I am using your network control for my Xfinity X1 DVR, which works great (even though I dont yet see any evidence of 2-way functionality, such as status of current channel, etc).

Apart from 2-way control, the only significant missing functionality is voice control.
I am using your iOS app, and am wondering whether you could adapt Siri commands to the Xfinity X1 DVR.
Is this feasible? If so, is it coming anytime soon?

Network control of the X1 would be news to me. What are you referring to?

Comcast announced IP control for the X1 in October 2015. However, it has not yet been released (yes, for those counting, we're coming up on 2 years). Despite the entire CEDIA expo including the escalators and the floors being painted with ads for X1 IP Control at both the 2015 show and 2016 show, no products have integrated it and no information whatsoever has been released. Also, they said that when (if?) it does come, it will be for the rackmount pro version of the X1 only.

Comcast therefore at this time should still be considered not to have any IP control. The best solution on most cable networks today is a TiVo which has top notch IP control.

Have you integrated voice control into any Tivo or other set-top box?

The custom Alexa skill has a lots of direct commands that work with almost anything not just TiVo. Look at the docs for it. You can pause, play, "skip 6 times" to skip commercials, and many other device specific commands.

2017

Question: Simple control has a huge amount of supported devices but indigo is awesome for home automation. I know I can control Indigo devices and actions from simple control but can I go the other way around? Activate commands in simple remote from indigo actions? Simple hub is running all the time so it should be possible no?
This would solve a lot of home automation issues for me.
Thanks!

Staff response: The HTTP Command Interface document here shows how to execute Activities from external systems:

simplecontrol.com/knowledge ... up-guides/

Simple Hub is independent of any app, unless you choose to run it on iOS as part of a dedicated iPhone/iPad of course. But excepting the device you're running Simple Hub on, it has no relation to your other iOS devices. Issuing a command per that document to Simple Hub causes commands to execute directly from Simple Hub.

2017

What is the preferred device to control a ceiling fan (speed of fan, as well as light dimming) over WIFI? Any help is appreciated.

Is this for an existing ceiling fan? What if any controller / hub are you already using for your lighting, etc.? I’ve tried a few different methods. In our new home we’re considering homekit enabled fans and in our existing place we have isy controlled fans that we’ve integrated.

This is for an existing fan. Fan is very good, but RF remote stopped working. So seems like the perfect time to upgrade. No controller / hub yet, so I'm not married to any one system. I'm leaning leotards Insteon, just hoping it will be compatible.

On my new Minka-Aire fan the controller is separate and lives in the cone near the ceiling. It's RF based. Even the wall-controller is just an AC-Powered (proprietary-RF?) RF controller.

I asked Minka-Aire to design us some new controllers. Or, I think all we really need is a Minka-Aire Hub ... that should work with all their existing stuff, right?

Only other thing I could come-up-with is hot-wiring a coffee-table remote ... but there is uncertainty and expense. I'm just not that into it.

2017

Question: I would like to see an added option/feature to hide or show devices that show using homekit and direct devices addition.
Example:
To control Phillips Hue Lighting by commands and by the 'bottom bar' light control a person adds HUE as a device.
For me:
To have Lutron Caseta Light control via commands a person adds it a device.
To have Lutron Caseta Light control as part of the 'bottom bar' light control a person has to add it via Homekit.
This is the only way this works.
BUT you can't have HUE ...

Staff response: This is already a feature. For a device, there is "Hide in HomeBar". For a manifest entry such as for direct Hue control, the same option exists. So if you prefer direct Hue control over HomeKit Hue control for instance, you just mark the HomeKit devices for Hue to Hide in HomeBar.

Open the Hue device, tap View Manifest, tap a Manifest Entry.

2017

Hi

as Netflix is the most watched streaming provider, I am suprised I could not find anything in the forums about Netflix integration...I have netflix on my appleTV, and I can control the appleTV, but I cannot open an app on aTV, right? I can open the netflix app on my LG TV, which is a bit better, but frankly, the TV app is pretty crashy... and I can have SC open the netflix webpage on my mac mini, but then control of a webpage is pretty bad.

So what would be great is direct control of the Netflix app (hopefully on the aTV), and even better, guides? is that too far? :slight_smile:

Thanks
Balazs

It seems clunky but sending a <home> command followed by a couple of keystrokes does the trick.
I've done the same with iPlayer on ATV too.

Stuart

what command and keystrokes you mean..? I can add a series of 'down up left' but the cursor is not always on the same icon, isnt it?

Start with Home x 3 and you know where you are...

I might be a bit slow - but i'm unsure of what you are referring to.. (I'm just another user..) - but i control netflix menu's on my apple TV with my Simple Control remote all the time - using the apple remote control in SC. Am i missing what you are trying to do? (netflix along with every other Apple TV app i have running on Apple TV. (Hulu, HBO On Demand, Plex, etc)

Are you actually trying to see the netflix menus/content appearing on the remote vs. on the screen?

Well, I can also control Netflix, or any other app on aTV. But I cannot have the activity 'watch Netflix' as there are no specific commands. The workaround from spemberry might actually work well.

However I can live with that - a tad less elegant, but the aTV GUI is elegant enough so thats okay - but having guide etc data from the Netflix app running on aTV would be great. Selecting movies, subtitles, audio would be great on the remote design. But I guess this is down to Netflix, if they allow their app to be controlled from outside...

2017

Question: Is it possible to control the Anthem MRX720 via IP? I note that SimpleControl supports the MRX710. Also, is there a way to control the volume on Zone 2 without setting up the MRX720 as a separate device for Zone 2?

Thank you,

Pat

Staff response: While we do not officially list them yet, we do have numerous testers with these devices and they appear to be working well. The code sets are in the library for V5. Make sure you're on V5.

Use the MRX x20/AVM60 Models Zone 1 code set, port 14999 when adding the device manually. Make sure it has a Static IP.

Your images didn't come through. Even if they did, analyzing things like this in a forum is not productive when we have far superior methods for figuring these things out in support.

2017

The second iteration of our Amazon Echo support went live last week and the corresponding release of Simple Sync, 3.3.0, is now available via the usual autoupdate methods. Simple Hub will automatically update within the next 24 hours (or force power cycle to update right away). Google Play and OS X auto-updates are live.

Feature highlights include:

[ul][li]Amazon Echo Channel Tuning: Channel change syntax is now available: “Alexa, tell Simple Control to tune HBO.”, or “tune channel 725”. Most popular channel names are automatically translated to the appropriate channel number. Echo integration requires Simple Sync and Simple Service. Also supported are "tune channel {up/down}", "change the channel to {name/number}", and "change the channel {up/down}".[/li]
[li]Amazon Echo Iteration: Commands such as “skip” and “replay” can now be issued to Alexa with a repetition count such as “Alexa, tell Simple Control to skip 6 times.”[/li][/ul]

Some hundreds of channel names are recognized, but if the name doesn't work, the number will. In addition, the phonetic recognition of certain key activity names has been updated with more names. We recommend using activity names with these basic terms for high recognition success:

[code]Amazon
Apple TV
Blinds
Bluray
Camera
Curtains
Denon
Direct TV
Dish
Dune
Epson
Fire TV
Fireplace TV
Hulu
Kaleidescape
Kitchen TV
Kodi
LG
Lights
Lutron
Mac
Marantz
Netflix
OS ten
PS four
PS three
Panasonic
Pioneer
Playstation
Plex
Power Off
Projector
Receiver
Roku
Samsung
Shades
Shield
Sonos
Sony
Spotify
System Off
Television
Time Warner
Tivo
TV
U Verse
VLC
Vudu
X Box
X Finity
Yamaha
[/code]

Highest channel name recognition success will be achieved with these channel names:

[code]5 Star Max
A&E
ABC
Action Max
Adult Swim
Africa
Al Jazeera
Amazon
AMC
American Heroes
Animal Planet
Aspire
Audience
AWE
AXS
Baby
Baby 1st
BBC America
BET
BET Gospel
BET Hip Hop
BET Jams
BET Soul
Bloomberg
Boomerang
Bravo
C Span
C Span 2
C Span 3
Cartoon Network
CBS
CBS Sports
Centric
Chiller
Cinemax
Cinemax East
Cinemax West
Cinemoi
Cloo
CMT
CMT Music
CNBC
CNBC World
CNN
CNN International
Comedy Central
Comedy TV
Concert TV
Cooking
Cozi
Crackle
Create
Crime and Investigation
Crunchyroll
CW
Destination America
Discovery Channel
Discovery Family
Discovery Life
Disney
Disney Junior
Disney XD
DIY
DMX
E
El Rey
Encore
Encore Action
Encore Black
Encore Classic
Encore Espanol
Encore Family
Encore Suspense
Encore Westerns
Epix
ESPN Plus
ESPN University
ES TV
ESPN
ESPN 2
ESPN Classic
ESPN news
Esquire
Fido
Flix
FM
Food Network
Fox
Fox Business
Fox College Sports
Fox News
Fox Soccer
Fox Sports 1
Fox Sports 2
Freeform
Fuse
FX
FX Movie
FXX
FYI
GAC
Galavision
Game
Game Show
Golf
GSN
H2
Hallmark
Hallmark Movies
Harmony
HBO
HBO 2
HBO Comedy
HBO East
HBO Family
HBO Latino
HBO On Demand
HBO Signature
HBO West
HBO Zone
HDNet
Headline News
HGTV
History
HLN
Home and Garden
Home Shopping Network
HSN
HSN 2
Hulu
Hustler
IFC
Independent Film
Indie Plex
INSP
Investigation Discovery
Ion
Ion Life
Justice Central
Kids & Teens
KQED
Lifetime
Lifetime Real Women
LMN
Logo
MGM
Military History
MLB
MLB Extra Innings
MLS
More Max
Movie Max
Movie Plex
MSNBC
MTV
MTV Hits
MTV2
Music Choice
Muzak
my destination
My network
NASA
Nat Geo Wild
National Geographic
NBA
NBC
NBCSN
Netflix
Newsmax
NFL
NFL Red Zone
NFL Sunday Ticket
NHL
NHL Center Ice
Nick 2
Nick at Nite
Nick Junior
Nickelodeon
Nicktoons
On Demand
Outdoor
Outer Max
Outside
Ovation
OWN
Oxygen
PBS
PBS Kids
Penthouse
Pets TV
Pivot
Playboy
Playgirl
Plex
Pop
Pursuit
Qubo
QVC
QVC Plus
Reelz
Retro Plex
Revolt
RLTV
Science
Sho 2
Sho Beyond
Sho Extreme
Sho Next
Sho Women
Showtime
Showtime Family
Showtime Showcase
Sirius
Ski Channel
Sky News
Smithsonian
Sony Movie
Spice
Spike
Sports Net
Sportsman
Sprout
Starz
Starz Cinema
Starz Comedy
Starz Edge
Starz in Black
Starz Kids & Family
Stingray
Sundance
Syfy
TBS
TCM
Team
TeenNick
Telemundo
Tennis
The Movie Channel
Thriller Max
TLC
TNT
Travel
Tru TV
Turner Classic
TV Land
TV One
TVG
TVG 2
UFC
Universal
Univision
Untamed
Up
USA
Velocity
VH1
VH1 Classic
Vudu
We
Weather Channel
WGN
World Fishing
Youtube
Z Living
[/code]

Note that as you can tell from the channel names, the tune channel commands also work with things like Roku to say something like "tune channel to Amazon".

2016

Post:
Can you guys work with Samsung to enable IP control?

We looked at this and don't see IP control on that model. Even if I had found something, it wouldn't be able to turn the player on – the Ethernet port is completely dead when turned off. We recommend IR control via Simple Blaster for this model.

The good news is that Samsung finally after all these years introduced the ability to turn on (at least some) of their 2016 TV models via pure IP control. That obviously didn't carry over to this player.

2016

[ul][li]Honeywell Thermostat support for all Wi-Fi and RedLink models (excluding Lyric).[/li]
[li]Amazon Echo Channel Tuning: Channel change syntax is now available: "Alexa, tell Simple Control to tune HBO.", or "tune channel 725". Most popular channel names are automatically translated to the appropriate channel number. Echo integration requires both Simple Sync and Simple Service.[/li]
[li]Amazon Echo Iteration: Commands such as "skip" and "replay" can now be issued to Alexa with a repetition count such as "Alexa, tell Simple Control to skip 6 times."[/li]
[li]RTSP H.264 Video Camera streams now use iOS hardware decoding resulting in significantly better streaming performance.[/li]
[li]All thermostats now use a significantly improved user interface.[/li]
[li]Ecobee Thermostat control now includes mode control.[/li]
[li]Plex Media Player: Auto-discovery and control of the new Plex Media Player.[/li]
[li]Plex Media Player Media Guide: Full Media Guide for your PMP video content. Requires Simple Service.[/li]
[li]Device and Time Trigger Commands: Send individual commands in addition to launching Activities based on a trigger. This can be used to execute precise commands (eg. repeating volume) when triggering from external button interfaces such as iPort for instance.[/li]
[li]Sonance iPort Surface Mount with Buttons: Wall mount for iPad supported as a Trigger device.[/li]
[li]Simple Blaster with Relay Cable is now available as a Trigger device. (eg. a contact closure/sensor can now engage a Trigger)[/li]
[li]Improvements to speed and reliability of pairing with Simple Sync.[/li]
[li]Improvements to cursor control via Simple Sync for OS X.[/li]
[li]Improvements to Apple TV 4 control.[/li]
[li]Optimizations for Remote Access.[/li]
[li]Fixed feedback panels for Denon receivers using the HTTP control method.[/li]
[li]Many new room and activity icons. All room icons are automatically upgraded. All old icons remain available.[/li][/ul]
Simple Sync must be upgraded to 3.3.0 or later for compatibility with this release.

2016

**Comcast is releasing a one-way IP control for X1 in 30 days followed by 2-way status feedback in 60-days followed by API for voice control interface.

Looks like it is exclusive at first to Control4, but hope you guys can jump on this too...

We've been following that closely since it was announced in the Fall of 2015. We will be on top of whatever is possible.

2016

**I've just bought an Epson TW9300 projector (5040 in US) and I'm controlling it serially using the Epson Projector All Models codeset.

That codeset is missing a couple of items. There is a new Colour Mode called Digital Cinema and the Colour Mode called 3D THX doesn't work. This last one isn't too much of a problem as the correct 3D Colour Mode is automatically triggered when a 3D film is detected.

The projector also has a lens memory function and I've been able to find the code for this and implement it successfully using the custom code DDK. Its format is "POPLP XX" where XX is 01 to 10.

Can I ask you to add this to the Epson Projectors All Models codeset or let me have the format of the Colour Mode code and let me figure it out myself?

John

2016

Hi,
Any chance for IP support on 2015 Philips TV's ?
Is IR going to be the only solution ?

Best regards
Larsjoha

There is a Philips TV codeset we developed a year or two ago for IP on some of their older models. I don't think they manufacture models for the US market anymore, so it's near impossible to get them to test anything. You should probably try the old set though. Fair chance it would just work. As we list on the compatibility table, the port used to be 1925, so give that a try.

2016

Do you have any plans to connect to the Telldus Live! cloud service in the near future?

I and many others have Telldus systems controlling lights and power sockets in our homes.

I just contacted Telldus and they are prepared to offer you assistance, API's, etcetera if you are interested.

live.telldus.com

Thanks very much

Colin Corbin

Yes I would also like to see suport for Telldus and thereby Nexa.

2016

Question: I saw the archives had a request for volume feedback support on the MCA-66 Is that something that could be added?!

Thanks!

Staff response: Adding feedback properly usually requires the actual hardware to test against, and then we need to against it on an ongoing basis as well. We don't have this HTD model at present and I can't recall seeing them at trade shows or other opportunities where we meet vendors and figure out how to arrange test hardware. Anyway, this is not so much a matter of users wanting it as a logistical matter of this vendor is not too visible and so we have not had an opportunity to get hardware from them.

Absolutely. Please do.

2016

I've been playing around with using IP to control the HTS, and I've got it working using the UDP protocol. The issue I'm having is I need to send 2 hex data streams to it for some of the commands. For example, I send the first stream to the HTS and the volume starts going up and won't stop until I send the second data stream to it. Its acting like there is start/stop commands.

How can I set up the roomiecontrol.plist file to send these values over one after the other. Both need to be a group of hex numbers like <08031200 2a080801 12040819 1002> and the last number needs to be toggled between 1 and 2. 2 appears to start the process and 1 stops it.

BTW, there is only power off, no power on, which is ok since I can cover that with the IR interface.

Thanks
Fraser

That sounds much like the LG BDP protocol. You might want to try that set first. It's LG, 2013+ Models, Blu-ray Player.

The codes look like this in a RoomieCodes file:

[code]<key>BACK</key><string>\\x08\\x03\\x12\\x00\\x2a\\x08\\x08\\x01\\x12\\x04\\x08\\x17\\x10$LGTOGGLE$</string>
[/code]
We have a special flag as you can see to handle exactly that toggle scenario.

Sending a "stop" command for a given repetition just needs a "#" at the end of the command name. Like this:

[code]<key>FORWARD</key><string>....</string>
<key>FORWARD#</key><string>....</string>
[/code]
Thank you.

I tried the LG2013+ as you suggested and it works, except it doesn't have all the options that the HTS supports. The strange thing is, the HTS I have is early 2012 model I believe....

Is there a way I can extract the roomiecontrol.plist file for the player you suggested so I can update it to match the HTS?

Thanks
Fraser

Send any extra codes to support. We can probably just add them to the existing set or dupe the set.

2016

I'm using Roomie to control my Oppo BDP-105D via IP. I cannot get the MUTE command to work.

 

When I push the Mute button in "Edit Device > Test Remote" mode, nothing happens. Evidently, no command is sent, because the command name does not appear at the top, either in blue or in red.

 

I tried to fix this by creating a RoomieCodes.plist file, per the DDK. My file looks like this:

 





<plist version="1.0">

<array>

<dict>

<key>brand</key>

<string>Oppo</string>

<key>cat</key>

<string>All Models IP</string>

<key>codes</key>

<dict>

<key>MUTE</key>

<string>MUT</string>

</dict>

<key>method</key>

<string>udp</string>

<key>type</key>

<integer>2</integer>

</dict>

</array>

</plist>

 

(I found a list of IP commands here: groups.google.com/group/command ... authuser=0)

 

The file loads without incident via Dropbox. Once loaded it appears to override the entire default Oppo remote, and replace it with a minimal remote containing only the simplest 4-icon control (mute, vol up, vol dn, gesture button), along with a single text button, "Mute".

 

The text button seems to send the MUTE command (it appears in blue at the top), but it has no effect on the Oppo. The 4-icon controller generates no blue commands and appears to send nothing.

 

Any ideas how to get the Roomie MUTE control to work on the Oppo? Or more generally, how to insert functioning IP commands into an existing command set to fix/add commands (without overriding the existing set).

 

Thanks,

John

Just sending "MUT" to the Oppo would be their serial format, not IP, so that will not work. What you would want to do this on your own would be to rename your custom set to "Supplemental Commands" instead of the internal name "All Models IP" and then fix the format of your command to the format shown in their document which is like this below, you would want to paste this into Xcode to make sure the formatting was preserved and make sure the keywords are exactly as shown for Roomie substitution of the MAC Address and request ID (TAG):



<body>
<request>
<name>command</name>
<uid>$MAC$</uid>
<requesttag>$TAG$</requesttag>
<content>MUT</content>
</request>
</body>

\

2015

Hi all,

Is this LG TV controllable via IP or RS232 for 2-way feedback? I just need discrete on/off control, and maybe input select. Is there a specific port and code format needed? I have the TV at work...

Also, can someone paste the codes for power on/off, we could not find a Crestron module and would also love to control one of these in an installation that has an existing Crestroncontroller.

Thanks !! Bert

We actually have that exact same model here and we're happy to announce that Roomie 3.1 will indeed have IP control for it.

However, note that as with all LG TVs, there is no way to power it on via IP, so as long as you have a solution for that (eg. Roomie Blaster, Chromecast, HDMI CEC, etc.) then IP control including keyboard and mouse control will possibly roughly sometime this quarter with 3.1.

2015

I keep seeing the Simple Control Hub but can find out nothing about it. I think part of it will allow remote access but there seems to be some ports and we have no idea what it will cost. Am I missing something?

Simple Sync+Hub is expected to be available later this quarter. We may have a pre-order period, but not just yet.

The features of Simple Sync+Hub are identical to the features of Simple Sync for Android. So if you already have an appropriate dedicated piece of hardware such as a Mac Mini or an Android box on which to run Simple Sync, there is no difference for you between buying the software directly and using Simple Sync+Hub.

2015

I have one Apple TV running through a matrix with multiple rooms. However, Roomie always wants to repair it when ever I add it as a device in a new room. Is there any way to pair it once and then use it in multiple rooms.

 

regards

 

simon

Don't add the same device multiple times. Add the Apple TV just one time and then reference it from wherever you use it. A very common way to do that is to create a "Home" room that holds all the devices you use across multiple rooms. There's an icon just for that.

2015

needs to accept power on/off commands / wake-on-LAN

I've heard the 2012 Sony one on the list, but can't find any to buy. Any suggestions from your experience?

Thanks

In case anyone else is ever in the same boat... tried a Sony KDL-w600A with no luck. Though it seemed to be a South American model, and I couldn't even get it to work with Sony SideView iPhone app. So maybe a regional thing?

Anyone tried KDL-32W700B? It's not on the supported list but seems similar... $600 gamble to buy it though

There was some talk of the Sharp LC-32LE653U 32-Inch 1080p being an IP power on/off tv. Anyone try it yet?

hmm that Sharp model on their web site says no for IP control. hoping it's wrong. anyone tried?

<header class="grid_2 alpha">

CONNECTIVITY


</header>















Ethernet:Yes
Built-in Wireless:Yes (802.11 b/g/n)
IP Control:

For the moment, we would advise avoiding all Sharp 2015 models. We got one of their latest and were told by their support folks that IP control, while listed as supported, is not actually supported until a future firmware update. Also, this week Sharp announced they're no longer going to be in the US and other markets for TVs. Too much uncertainty at this point. If the IP control does eventually get pushed out, we have every intention of supporting it, but it may well be for instance that their departure from the market could impact that happening.

Regarding the original topic, the safest choice would be moving up to a 40" from Sony such as this one:

amazon.com/dp/B00HPMCO46/?tag=cyphersoft-20

Not to sound like a Roomie advert, but choosing a TV purely for IP control is tail wagging the dog.

I suggest choosing a TV for the best TV / picture /resolution and then budgeting to add a Roomie Blaster to get IP-to-IR control. You will be much happier getting the right TV than compromising just to find something that has built-in IP control.

2015

Post:
Hi:

I have been using Roomie for an year now. My denon 3808 was discovered and controlled via IP control. This worked for nearly 1 years without any problems.

In the past month the receiver stopped responding to IP commands.

Roomie is not the problem as even the network features like internet radio stopped working. I used the same network cable and plugged into a roku and it works fine. So it seems to me that network interface in the Denon may have stopped working. Initially I had static ip address assigned. I turned off the receiver and played around with both static and dynamic ip address and it began to work but stopped work after a hour. I cannot use RS232 as it is already used by my crestron system.

So I am considering switching to IR control. As long as it works reliably I am fine with lack of feedback. I have IP ITach Flex. I am already using two IP ports in the tri-port cable.

Denon 3808 has IR in port in the back and it also has an IR receiver in the front.

Can I use the IR in port in the back or do I have to use the IR receiver in the front?

Do I have to change anything in the ITach settings to make the third IR port work?

I will love to retire my Crestron remotes which require $300 for each change I make. Problem is that my wife is still used to remotes with physical buttons. My hope is that I can get the roomie to work reliably and hide the crestron remote for a week or two. Once she starts using IPad Mini/ IPad Touch (bought just for roomie) I can switch to the RS 232 control.

Let me know if you have any suggestions for me. It sucks to give up feedback.

Post:
Sounds like an internal Denon problem. I had a similar situation with an Onkyo that required it to go back to the service centre for replacement of a module within the receiver.

Post:
I agree with hgmobile, it sounds like a bad Ethernet port. (You could reset it back to factory defaults first though, if it is not to much of pain to reconfigure)

I have the 3808 myself. I started out with IR control (using an IR Emitter on the front), but opted to go with Serial control now. If you are going to switch control methods, I would suggest Serial via an iTach Flex. This allows for volume feedback which will display the dB values directly in Roomie. I have found the Serial connection is much more reliable than IR, which is typically the case. Goodluck!

2014

Feature Guides

Years ago, in Simple Control 5, we went all gray all the time. You can see now in the betas that we have mostly moved on from that. One holdover is our logo library. I need to add some new logos for Roomie X anyway (Switch 2, etc.). In light of this, in principle, we could re-do the entire logo library using full color logos. It’s a lot easier to do that actually though overall this would still take a couple days because the sheer quantity of logos.

So my basic question is, do people want color logos? If so, should they always be color, or more likely, we would gray them out when inactive, and make them full color when active. What do you think?

This is in progress, but likely no build today as Apple forgot to flip the switch to allow Xcode uploads from their new release candidate. This happens often.

2025

Question: Hi Will,

I just noticed your September 2024 blog post / manifesto. In it I note that you indicated that perpetual sales ended in 2023 and that V9 will be end of the road for perpetual users.

First, small plug for keeping perpetual. Maybe just time-bar it to 3 or 4 years. Basically I'd rather pay a lump sum up front. But I understand that may not align with your business goals.

Now, onto my question. Do you know the migration path yet? When v10 is released will I just buy a sub in v9 and then...

Staff response: That was covered last September per the OP. Subscriptions carry right over to the new app. Perpetual has no end date in the app in which it was purchased and doesn't apply to a different app. (This is exactly how V4 to V5 worked, and has been covered constantly since introduction.)

Technically, you don't need to Backup (because we could never assume that users would do that anyway). Installing V10 will automatically copy the latest V9 config to V10. Whatever you do after you install V10 affects only the app in which you do it. But the config you have in V9 at the moment of running V10 for the first time is the config V10 starts with. Of course, you can restore a V9 config to V10 if you later want to sync things up. You can't restore V10 to V9. There are many, many changes in V10, so that wouldn't work anyway.

Also note that V10 is a much larger set of changes than the usual release and we have not yet entered beta, so it will still be a bit.

V10 subscriptions are not the same as V9 subscriptions, but V9 subscriptions work fine in V10. Perpetual is not a subscription. It keeps working in V9. V9 will be removed from the App Store at some point after V10. Again, just like V4 to V5 and V5 to V6. There are still a few people on V4 somehow even though I have a list of at least 10 major things broken in V4 now.

Once you see V10 just imagine the people who say 'who moved my cheese' every time we change a button, then you will understand why it's better to change apps if we do a major UI revamp like V5 and V10.

Soon. It requires iOS 26, so when we put out a beta, only those already running iOS 26 could use it.

Essentially, the answer to that is yes, V10 definitely requires a primary device – assuming you use anything that requires it which includes automation, relay devices (many devices are marked for relay because they have connection limits but they work fine if you limit to one at a time), Alexa responses, local network control, and Remote Access (coming in V10).

Roomie must be in the foreground to be a Primary Controller on iOS and tvOS. However, on macOS, it does not need to be in the foreground, just running.

This Fall will be an excellent time to re-purpose an old Apple TV (the ones they sell right now) as a Primary Controller when you upgrade to the new Apple TV (presumed in October).

Also, as an update, we’re not yet in Beta though very close. I could not be more pleased with V10. By far the most exciting release of Roomie in many years, possibly ever. Adopting Liquid Glass among many other things has gone very well.

2025

Question: Roomie V9 should be on the App Store at some point in the next couple weeks. This is the near-final What's New subject to change pending the actual release:

* Home configuration storage and synchronization is now entirely local to the Primary Controller rather than stored in iCloud. Since V5, we have used a couple of different cloud storage solutions, but their only real use case was for offsite control. As Roomie is always used within the home or by VPN to the home, moving to pure local storag...

Staff response: Roomie V9 should be on the App Store at some point in the next couple weeks. This is the near-final What's New subject to change pending the actual release:

* Home configuration storage and synchronization is now entirely local to the Primary Controller rather than stored in iCloud. Since V5, we have used a couple of different cloud storage solutions, but their only real use case was for offsite control. As Roomie is always used within the home or by VPN to the home, moving to pure local storage with local synchronization works better, is more secure (eliminating the entire class of security issues associated with cloud storage), and is notably faster.
* Automatic Backups: Daily and monthly automated configuration backups may now be executed to your choice of location.
* Controller Permissions: Each Controller now has permissions for the Home, either Full Access or Read-Only.

* Multiroom Linked Activities: Using the same media player in multiple rooms is now recognized as a Linked Activity. Such Activities can be activated together with the new Link button. Opening the volume controller for such an Activity displays all related volumes along with global mute controls.

* Inline Action Panel Editing: Entering Layout mode for the current Action Panel allows inline customization of your remote in a simple user interface.

* Weather: Current, daily, or hourly weather is now displayed throughout the app including the Homebar, Dashboard, and optionally per-room.

* Sunset/Sunrise Automation: Execution based on solar-related time events is now available for Time-based Automations.

* Keyboard in Action Panel is now displayed with a live entry field and does not submit until you finalize it. This makes text entry much simpler and fixes apps that constantly auto-accept your input such as YouTube.
* Shortcuts/Siri: Everything related to these features has been re-implemented using the latest Apple API to support current and upcoming changes. Your old Shortcuts should migrate automatically, but some degree of adaptation may be required. Please verify your Shortcuts and let us know if you had to adjust anything.
* Primary Controller can now be app-locked requiring Touch ID/Face ID by tapping the lock icon on the “Primary” button. This feature enables situating your Primary Controller in an unsecured environment without worrying about unauthorized access.
* Air Quality Sensor and TVOC are now displayed when available for HomeKit Sensors.

* HomeKit Custom Icons: Active and Inactive icons may now be configured for each HomeKit accessory.
* Inactive Activity Icons: Activities may now spec...

2024

Question: So Siri shortcuts invoked through my Homepod Mini were very inconsistent on V8. I was hoping the re-write would have fixed things. But it seems worse.

All my shortcuts seem to work fine when invoked by Siri directly on my Roomie hub. But now don't seem to work at all when I try to invoke them by "hey Siri" on the HomePod mini. I get either "something went wrong" or more weirdly no response at all.

Any hints on how to troubleshoot or get diagnostics?

Jeff

Staff response: This is not something developers are involved in. You can't write software for HomePod mini, so basically Apple tries to magically do stuff where the HomePod talks to "the correct" device of yours that might be able to execute what you want. That has always worked so poorly for me that I don't bother to test it. It is possible in such a complex system that there is some way to fix something like that, but not clear at the moment where to begin and not clear to me anyone else uses this – and finally, not clear Apple cares as they're replacing Siri next Spring and HomePod reportedly may not get it.

Got rid of that. Doesn't seem to be recommended in Apple's API anymore. It was sort of a hack anyway. Basically we're trying to be in a position to support whatever Apple's doing with Apple Intelligence by adopting all the newest APIs. Putting buttons in your UI to create simple Shortcuts really cluttered things up and should obviously be handled automatically by the system.

Imagine if you had to pre-define every single utterance with Alexa. Having this structured start-from-zero system has been one of the primary flaws with SiriKit all along. Whatever the end state of Apple Intelligence is, it can't be the "user has to press a button for every single thing in every single Activity to setup Shortcuts at which point they have hundreds of Shortcuts based on a syntax that the system already knew and could have just interpreted automatically." Let's just advance to the end state and have the system understand Roomie's syntax and adopt correct behavior. That's the hope anyway. Good chance Apple doesn't quite make it, but Alexa has been there for many years so I don't see why they wouldn't.

Still possible there is some code solution to this. Looking into it.

Unrelated to the Shortcuts/Siri stuff. Live Activities are always highly unreliable with their update frequency.

2024

Question: Hi Folks,

The V9 Beta for Roomie's upcoming Fall release has begun! There are many new features and improvements. If you're interested in testing over the Summer, please send a note to support@roomieremote.com from the app using the "Submit Feedback" button.

Thanks!

Staff response: Hi Folks,

The V9 Beta for Roomie's upcoming Fall release has begun! There are many new features and improvements. If you're interested in testing over the Summer, please send a note to support@roomieremote.com from the app using the "Submit Feedback" button.

Thanks!

We're pretty much wrapped. For technical reasons, I can't send it to the App Store until at least tomorrow though because the App Store rejects Xcode beta submissions and Xcode won't GM until Tim Cook gives the presentation tomorrow and they can release the new Xcode that contains knowledge of the new phones. Assuming there is no change involved in that adaptation, both Roomie 9 and Now Showing 2.5 will be submitted Monday in hopes of being live by the time iOS 18 goes live. I believe the What's New is just about finalized so I will probably post that here shortly in a new thread.

2024

Question: I'm posting this just FYI. Don't know if it belongs in this category (or anywhere).

I just upgraded to the new Google Nest Learning Thermostat V4. It supports Matter and I was able to successfully add it to Homekit where it works fine. Roomie then added it as a thermostat device and to the Homebar. But it is completely non-functional in Roomie.

I'm not sure if Roomie is meant to support these Matter->Homekit devices.

The good news is that Roomie's native Google Nest interface was able to ad...

Staff response: Fortunately I just upgraded one of mine yesterday too so I noticed these issues. The next build has all the relevant fixes. Though, I did not yet figure out how to add it back to the normal Nest API. I think Google has a million homes for me so I need to figure out how to re-home everything. Anyway, it's working fine now. Just note that Google doesn't seem to provide fan control via Matter/HomeKit.

Nest Protect support

Day 1 purchase of like 12 of those for me if they finally update that thing. I hate buying Google stuff, but I like the best stuff more than I hate Google stuff.

Are you still using the Google Nest Cloud API for any of your thermostats? I'm seeing broken responses from that API today and wondering if it's just me.

Fixed in 2918.

I personally would rather use Matter because I don't want users to go through a 30 step highly technical process (which I just updated because I had to re-do mine, long story). Matter is wonderful for this. With one huge BUT. Fan Control. Such a huge oversight. Expose the fan as a Matter accessory. Anyway, for now I'm just using both anyway because I have maybe 8 thermostats and have only replaced 3 so far.

2024

I was wondering if there is an option to hide the settings menu. Now anyone using the remote can adjust things and it's confusing for people who don't understand how to get out of the settings menu easily. My wife or clients who are not technical.

Maybe an option to make a toggle in the general settings of ios

There are many features to do this and related restrictions. The one most specifically for this is called Prevent Editing in the Always-on Services panel. Guided Access and Single Room Mode are related options, see the Setup Guide.

I tried all those options but that still shows the settings menu, guided access is not desirable to use the ipad only for 1 app.

What I want is for the app to start up in Activities and and be able to select the room nothing else, or am I doing something wrong?

Not using Guided Access fundamentally means "this user is pretty much allowed to do anything" as the iPad has no real security without that. So if you don't turn it on, the menu is still available even though most editing is technically prevented, but editing can be turned back on without Guided Access. So, just using Prevent Editing may be suitable for a family environment. Adding Guided Access would be needed for anything beyond that where the users are less trusted and you want assurance that they can't change any related settings.

How about giving an option to select specific rooms, more than 1 room, right now it’s all rooms or just one room in prevent editing mode, use case we may want to give a kid his room and common rooms like home theater and not give access to master bedroom

I tried the guide access, but that's not what I mean. I understand that the Ipad doesn't really have any security without the guide access. I just want to prevent anyone from accidentally clicking on the settings menu. And that this can often do with other apps in the settings menu of the operating system (toggle Hide settings menu)

2023

I have a 2022 Samsung Frame, model QN55LS03BAFXZA. I seem to be having issues with basic control. When powered up from being completely off it seems to work correctly but I believe that is due to the fact that I have it set to go to last input used. When powering down it turns off into picture frame mode. That is not that big of a deal but is there anyway to get it to power completely down? The big issue is when trying to start an activity once in picture frame mode it does not do anything and stays in picture frame mode. Using the test menu it does not appear to respond to direct input commands. I am not sure if that is part of the problem or not. Any feedback is appreciated.

Frame TVs do their best to go into Art Mode when you turn them off. So turning them actually off is not as easy as it sounds. One way to do that is to put a short timeout on Art Mode sensitivity on the TV.

Since we have a lot of Frame TVs for Now Showing, it became clear that the best way to control them is using Samsung EX-Link Serial. Over that link, you can fully shut down the TV without going through an Art Mode phase.

Make sure to get the EX-Link 3.5mm cable for your iTach Flex to connect properly:
https://www.homecontrols.com/Global-Cache-Flex-Link-RS232-Mini-Jack-Cable-GCFLCSLMJ

Note that the 32" Frame model requires both IP and Serial for best control. Wake on LAN must be used with that model to wake it at which point both interfaces work. Sizes above that can be controlled purely via EX-Link.

2023

Anyone integrated Shelly devices into RoomieRemote? With over 30 devices , adding each one would be long winded so an integration would be useful.

I've several custom scenes setup for Shelly and have found the relevant url to send to run the scene. The format is as follows:

https://shelly-X-eu.shelly.cloud/scene/manual_run&id=1585843XXXXXX&auth_key=EUERKEY

Where:

X is number from server - found in app under Authorisation Cloud Key in Settings
id is the Scene ID - found in app by selecting scene and then tap the i to show the ID
auth_key is the authorisation key found in app under Authorisation Cloud Key

Anyone provide some pointers in integrating this as a custom command in RR with the ability to enter different parameters for each scene.

2023

Has anyone tried to setup Magnatar UDP 800 or UDP 900 models?
It is kind of similar to REAVON UBR models
I tried using 8102 port ,
Device powers up with wake-up on lan but no further controls ….

I utilize an Oppo device that is compatible with Magnetar. It functions seamlessly with selecting Oppo 203. I connect it using Rs232 and adjust the baud rate as specified in the manual.

Thanks, I will try…

2023

New to Roomie. Does anyone know if Roomie can control Altitude from Trinnov. Their pre/pro. And if so...what about feedbacks. I do have a complete list of codes from Trinnov, so maybe it can be added manually? Thanks

This is on the Compatibility list, with feedback.

Thanks will, I looked the other day but did not see Trinnov or anything about feedbacks. I can look again. Before I buy and start working on this..I just wanted to know about feedbacks and volume and listening formats. Thanks

I can confirm that Roomie provides both volume level feedback that maps to the dB level on the Trinnov front panel display and will also provide feedback on the audio content, e.g., PCM, Atmos HD, etc.

That is great news! Once I get more familiar with this set up...the fact that I can have volume, and Atmos, DTS, etc displayed...is HUGE! One step at a time. I wish they had online, or youtube clips for set up...but I'm getting there....Thanks so much for that info. I'm sure when I get to feedbacks..I'll have to ask for help from support

2023

Question: Hi, I used to run the app on an iPad mini 4 in foreground and i had selected the home to be able to see the clock at anytime. Now for some reason, after restarting the iPad, app is in my only room "Living Room" that has no clock in there, and when i click on the arrow on top of the screen, i doesn't show my home anymore to click on it. It only shows the "Living Room". How to go to home screen dashboard to view the clock? I tried so many things but wasn't able to find it.

Staff response: My recollection is that we require more than 1 room to enable a Home dashboard.

If my theory is correct, that would fix it yes.

2023

Does anyone know if the newer generation of Anthem processors such as the AVM 70 and AVM 90 are compatible via IP? The compatibility only shows AVM 60 which is now a discontinued product. Thanks!

Can't say about the AVM70/90, but I have an MRX540 that works out-of-the-box with Roomie using port 14999. IIRC, the AVM70/90 uses the same firmware.

Perfect and what is port 14999 if you don't mind me asking. I see it on the manual IP control in the compatability page. Also, did you say that avm 90 uses the same ip firmware as Mrx540?

Communication between Roomie and the MRX540 occurs over TCP/IP, using the IP address set on the unit and the given port. The default port for the MRX540 for this communication is set to 14999. The same should apply to the AVM units, but I can't guarantee that 100% since I don't have any.

No issues with the AVM 70 or AVM 90 works great

Using port 14999 for my MRX 540 not all commands work. Power, Volume (and Mute) do work.
However when I tried Bass, Treble, Mode, Center Trim I got no reaction on the device (as observed on the web-interface). Did anybody have the same issue? Does anybody have a solution to this?

2022

Per the release notes, a major new feature is included in the new version 8.1:

• Instant Home Sharing: Alternative sharing method requiring local network access. New devices that join your network and install Roomie can join with one tap when this feature is active.

I thought I would cover a few more details of this here until the next update of the Setup Guide.

First, this feature has a switch in the Always-on Settings panel, and defaults to on. The "Instant Home Sharing" switch is visible on the Primary Controller only.

When active, any Roomie client on your local network that is not currently activated to the home of your Primary Controller will display a message within a few seconds asking if they would like to join the home. If the join is approved, they will instantly join the home. As compared to the iCloud Sharing process, this procedure is quite a bit simpler and faster.

There is one downside, unlikely to affect almost anybody, but good to be aware of for now. iCloud Sharing provides synchronization both local and remote. Doesn't matter where you are, if you have network access, then you are synchronized. Instant Home Sharing is local synchronization only. Meaning it will work locally, and also over VPN to the local network of course. Since VPN is already required for Remote Access, there is no real downside to that.

For 99% of users, Instant Home Sharing is the new way to share with Family and Guests. From a licensing perspective, Instant Home Sharing is enabled for all subscriptions. The person joining your home must have their own Roomie subscription or be part of your subscription via Apple Family Sharing. For Unlimited subscribers or Perpetual homes, you may also join Guests to your home using Instant Home Sharing, and in that case they do not need their own subscription nor do they need to be part of your Family Sharing group. They do however need to be on your local network (or accessing via VPN) in order to effect said licensing.

Tested the feature it works great !!! However in the client device it asked to join the local home but no permission was required from primary device

Guess the only other key difference is we cannot control view only change permissions etc…

…also say if we use one device as primary controller and allow home sharing then add the clients, later can we change the primary controller to any other client device ?

2022

The last couple of betas state they support the new iOS 16.1 Live Activities feature. Could you clarify how this works with Roomie?

Jeff

So, use an iPhone with iOS 16.1. Start an Activity. Leave Roomie. Should now be obvious. I'm not actually certain what it looks like on a non-iPhone 14, but it's visible on Lock Screen and somewhere on the springboard. It's super obvious on iPhone 14.

I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max with iOS 16.1 and the latest roomie beta build. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I see nothing obvious on my lock screen.

Jeff

Did you start an Activity from Roomie? Try AppleTV or TiVo or DISH or something like that. Is totally obvious when you see it.

Go into Settings and make sure you didn't turn off Live Activities. Scroll down to Roomie Remote.

Yes. I tried a couple of my TiVo activities. Not sure what I'm missing.

Jeff

And Live Activities is enabled for Roomie.

This is what you are looking for.
[screenshot]

If you still don't see it:

Please perform the following steps:
• Turn on Collect Diagnostics in Roomie Remote's Settings.
• Restart your iOS device using the power button and then open Roomie Remote. (critical step do not skip)**
• Start an activity such as Apple TV and play some content from Netflix. Wait 30 seconds or so.
• Tap Send Diagnostics and then turn off Collect Diagnostics.
• Email us the time at which the diagnostics were sent.

So, my TiVo activities don't work but my RoKu activity does. I'm not sure what "triggers" the live activity activation.

There should always be a live activity, but what is in it may differ significantly based on device, content, etc. If you have no content whatsoever, you can turn on Collect Diagnostics like I indicated above and we can see what it might be trying to display.

OK. I tuned on diagnostics. Power cycled the iPhone. Then did these steps with Roomie:

Started Roomie.
Started my activity called TiVoVox.
Listed recorded shows on that TiVo.
Started playing one of the recorded shows ((Nova-Arctic Drift)
Left roomie and verified no live activity display
Went back into roomie
sent diagnostics
Turned off diagnostics

Diagnostics sent at 8:32 PM ET.

Hope this helps.

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My best guess based on that diagnostic without being able to see your actual config is that these Activities are hopelessly misconfigured. Not only do they not seem to have guides, but are these misconfigured as inline Activities instead of normal Activities? Anyway, has nothing to do with the new Live Activities feature. If correctly configured Activity, no issue.

My TiVo activities are normal media activities, not inline. They also have guides configured. I sent feedback from the app with screen captures and the configuration file.

Jeff

OK, try with tomorrow's beta. Added more logging.

As crazy as this sounds, I figured out what was wrong!

For all of my TiVo activities, I had a custom image as the icon for the activity. I changed it back to the default icon from the library and presto, live activities are now working for those activities!

Not sure if this is a bug that can be fixed or a requirement that should be noted.

Thanks for this improvement.

P.S. It would really be great now if Apple added Live Activities to iPadOS.

Jeff

A bit more info: My Amazon Fire TV Cube activity wasn't working. It was using a "standard" icon. But the "Amazon" icon. I switched to the "Fire TV" icon and it now works!

So for whatever reason, it seems to be related to some attribute(s) of the image the activity is using.

Jeff

Any update? The latest beta build still seems to have the issue that live activities are dependent on using an appropriate activity icon.

I use custom icons without issue. Sounds like it might be specific to your custom image on that specific activity.

As noted above, the standard library icon "Amazon" doesn't work but "Fire TV" does. So it seems there is something about some images that make this not work. You should be able to see this yourself with the "Amazon" icon.

Jeff

Still no issue with the Amazon icon.

Well, the Amazon logo is working for me now too. I'm not sure what it is. But it's not worth pursuing.

Perhaps just a note with the release for toubleshooting purposes.

Jeff

2022

See the following article regarding the end of Insteon:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/04/18/smarthome-firm-and-early-homekit-partner-insteon-is-dead-with-no-warning-to-customers

Given this news, we will need to remove the cloud support for the Insteon cloud service in the next release. Obviously, it doesn't work anymore anyway, but I wanted to post this logic here in case anyone is confused as to why something isn't working.

It is the end of era, or perhaps well past that end at this point. I started out with Insteon in 2010 when I started developing Roomie. But I must say the writing has been on the wall since at least 2016. Onwards to greener pastures. I have been deploying Lutron solutions for many years myself, and Thread has been quite useful of late (hi Eve Water Guard!) in areas where old style Bluetooth HomeKit would have been quite useless.

I switched from X-10 based automation to Lutron RA2 in 2004 for a townhouse and then did my primary home in RA2 in 2006. I've been doing my own Lutron programming ever since. I now have lighting, shades, and HVAC all controlled by Lutron and Lutron lighting is integrated with Roomie. It all works great. We have an upcoming renovation that will add a new Lutron RA3 network to the existing RA2 stuff in my primary home. Hopefully, Roomie will support RA3, as well.

We put it back in a while ago, read the release notes.

2022

Does anyone have a discrete on/off for Samsung TVs 2021 or newer, QN900A to be exact? All I see is the toggle or a wake-on-lan. Most of the times this works but it’s not bullet proof which is what I think is needed. Sometimes people turn off the activity by mistake, then turning it on will not wake the TV quick enough. Using a power toggle can get the activity out of sync, a la old Harmony’s.

This is covered in many locations. POWER TOGGLE is simply what Samsung labels it. It's actually POWER OFF. Wake on LAN is obviously POWER ON. So in reality both are fully discrete and that's how Samsung designed it.

2022

An integration of Infuse library content with Roomie just like Kodi or Plex would be great.
Any chance of this happening in the future?

Infuse is a front end. We integrate with things that provide back ends. So as an example we integrate with Kodi and Plex (both provide back ends though they also provide front ends). We provide those back ends to users of Dune and Mede8er. Dune's API just isn't good enough to provide their back end as a front end to Dune.

Anyway, Zidoo provides a good in-between API with no metadata, but nice to be able to walk an SMB tree very fast in our Media Guide.

Point is, we try to provide Media Guides when APIs exist that make it useful, but the variance in what APIs provide is very diverse. I'm not aware of an Infuse API. If they have one, we'd evaluate it.

2022

Is there a way to connect the guide to any of the various streaming services? It would be especially helpful if it could launch the app and tune to the channel and browse On Demand content from the app.

I’m new to this community so apologies if this has been discussed; I couldn’t find much for searching. Also, I’m not sure exactly how RR controls Apple TV but I’m guessing it’s some form of IP control. I know certain apps, like DIRECTV Stream (formerly AT&T TV) and Spectrum TV, allow you to launch directly to channels with Siri, according to this outdated Apple KB article. So fingers crossed it’s a possibility.

2022

I have a custom device for my HDMI matrix switcher. When I set it up a couple years ago, using the old DDK and XML format, I named things rather dumb like: Output 1 - Input 1, Output 1 - Input 2, …, Output 8 - Input 7, Output 8 - Input 8.

With the new in-app designer I decided to name them more meaningful like Theater HDMI1 - BRD, Theater HDMI1 - AppleTV, etc.

However when I did this all of the activities that referenced the old naming convention were inoperable since they still had references to Output 1 - Input 1 instead of the new replacement name of Theater HDMI1 - BRD.

I wasn’t expecting this. I was thinking there would be a key to the command, that the name was just a token, and that the activities would hold a reference to a key and not a name.

Presumably my expectation was wrong and this is working as designed, but I wanted to verify.

2022

I'm wondering if anyone has every tried using a wifi Shelly relay (shelly.cloud) to control lighting with a Roomie Remote? I would be interested in this use case. The Shelly relays are small and can be placed wired into the back side of existing light switches around a house. Or Roomie Remote could add support for MQTT or Coap which the wifi relays support. Any thoughts?

I would also like support for Shelly devices. Anyone got this working?

+1 for MQTT

2022

Post:
I am running the TestFlight version of Roomie and am finding that my activities no longer seem to work on my iPad mini. I can't tell if this is happening each time the app updates or if it is something else causing this. If I go into the activity and test it and then come back out the activity re-engages on the Home Screen. Anyone else having this problem?

Not sure what you're saying. Maybe write it as step by step reproduction. Also remember this is a forum so if it's config specific then this will be guesswork at best.

2022

Just deployed this article that may be helpful to beta testers:

https://roomieremote.com/support/nowshowing-quickstart/

The article is live, but the app itself has not yet been submitted. Maybe next week, just some more polish here and there. Please continue to send any feedback here or to support@roomieremote.com.

Will, you are on a roll with providing some really helpful content with this post and your post about ideas on how to use notifications. Thanks!

2022

Hands-free audio and video conferencing instantly throughout your home.
Broadcast announcements to Sonos speakers.
Intercom communication evolved!

FEATURES

Intercom
* Auto-answer, hands-free, multi-party video and audio conferencing.
* Scales from simple deployments using only personal devices to large homes with dedicated devices.
* Works even when you're away from home or the app is not in the foreground.
* No need to maintain contact lists. Automatically assembles your rooms and/or personal devices as contacts when they appear on your local network. You can also allow others to join your intercom group.
* Free yourself from the limitations of message-based intercom systems like Alexa.

Announcements
* Directly integrates with Sonos speakers to record and broadcast announcements. Control the announcement volume, and choose individual or all Sonos speakers to target.
* Announcements broadcast to your home speakers even if you're not home.

SUBSCRIPTION REQUIRED
This app requires an active subscription. Subscriptions begin with a free trial. Choose a monthly or annual subscription. Each provides identical functionality. Intercomm Service subscriptions are shared via Apple Family Sharing.

Intercomm is also available as part of Roomie Remote 6.7 (that is the version matching the functionality of Intercomm 1.0). Intercomm can be licensed as a separate app with its own inexpensive subscription, or as part of the Roomie app included with the Unlimited level.

Roomie Remote established in 2010 as a provider of home automation apps. We bring many decades of experience with Apple’s platforms, and our apps never collect your data. Local network intercom calls never leave your network. No metadata regarding calls is received or stored by our systems. All audio and video is secured and sent directly between call parties. Video can be disabled on a per-device basis.

* Both Alexa and HomePod offer a record-and-forward announcement feature that is not related to this product. Intercomm provides a full intercom solution including live multi-party audio and video.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/intercomm-hands-free-video/id1508908984

A note that update to v6.7.0 had the intercomm icon in the homebar (by default, I presume). However since I don’t plan to utilize the functionality at this time and I’d prefer the icon be hidden, instinct told me to go to settings, where I found an Intercomm menu, yet “enable intercomm” was already disabled.

After continuing to look, I toggled the “enable intercomm” and was prompted with a warning that unlimited is needed. After clicking ok the icon was ultimately removed from the homebar as desired.

Today we released Version 1.1 of Intercomm. This has a major new feature:

* Intercomm now detects voice commands! It works even during calls. Say “Intercomm hangup” to hangup. Or “Intercomm Master Bedroom” to contact for example a device named “Master Bedroom”. Or “Intercomm all” to contact every online Intercomm. It is recommended to use common names for each of your locations to ensure reliable recognition.

We may one day extend this technology of built-in voice control to Roomie. For now, it works excellently in Intercomm. The Intercomm aspect of this voice control will also appear in the next release of Roomie.

2021

I think a long time ago I advocated for this feature, but even though I knew it had been introduced I never really had a need to use it.

Been having trouble with Alexa since I upgraded to 7.0. "Roomie Remote skill is unavailable" or something like that. Primary controller is a dedicated iPad in my media closet, made sure it is on Ethernet, made sure it had static IP, made sure I was in guided access mode, etc. Everything looked good. Unlinked my Alexa skill. Linked it again. Still no joy.

Then I remembered the debug screen. Pulled it up, told Alex to run an activity, and she failed like expected. Looked through the logs and saw a message from "RoomieCloud" that said "missing login credentials." It actually took me a minute to realize what this meant. I hadn't had to log in to my Roomie account in so long I had forgotten it existed. I double checked and sure enough it wasn't logged in. I don't recall having to enter credentials during previous upgrades, but I suspect this one logged me out. I logged in, gave Alexa the command, and it worked.

So, gave me the opportunity to self-solve. Saved Will a ticket. Big win for this feature!

In using the feature I have the following observations:

1) Be nice if the logs could be emailed or saved off somewhere so they could be reviewed on a bigger screen and with more powerful tools.

2) Be nice if a "no results" search gave you an indication of that. First few searches I tried didn't bring up any results though I thought they were decent search terms. Realized they weren't decent once I tried searching for something obvious.

Those old accounts have been in phase-out for years. They exist only for Alexa and they are pretty buried so that users don't think they actually need to login to make anything else work.

At some point in the next cycle, we plan to delete all historical user accounts and any history thereof. We'll be migrating any further use of Alexa (and any future related features that require some kind of user identity on our side) to 'Sign In With Apple' only.

The log screen does by the way support standard copy semantics, so you can "share" it, simply copy and then with your iPhone next to your Mac in Handoff, paste on your Mac.

Cool. Didn't think to try copy and paste.

And fully support going to an SSO account.

2021

Is there a way to have Roomie pick the Home automatically based on location?

Simple answer is no. The only way to switch homes is to use the Activate button in the Homes panel.

Not a bad feature idea though. I’m not sure everybody grants location permission, and we only use it for the initial guide data location. Possibly we could look for the Wi-Fi network name in the Homes panel. Then there is the issue of people who have multiple Homes representing the same Home (like one for making new designs, and one that is “stable”). Then the basic issue that Homes do not currently associate with a location. Anyway, a few edge cases to consider.

Understood

Is there a way to use Apple Shortcuts to activate the Home? Then the automation of when/how to chose the Home is up to the user.

2021

I'm working on using Apple's Shortcuts app with Roomie Remote to control my home automation, which is mainly Insteon devices with a Universal Devices ISY994 controller. I've found a solution for what I'm trying to do, and thought I'd document what does and doesn't work, and point out that some of the implementation seems incomplete. I'm using Roomie 7.12, the latest version of Shortcuts, and the ISY994 firmware is v.5.0.13c.

What works:
I was able to create Roomie activities that turn on a number of individually listed devices (light switches) and pass them dimness parameters.
The Shortcuts implementation for Roomie can start an activity.
The Shortcuts implementation for Roomie can set the volume level of a Sonos speaker directly, without any need to do any more than add the Sonos device in Roomie.

What doesn't work:
Roomie activities cannot turn on/off UD scenes.
Roomie activities cannot run UD programs.
The Shortcuts implementation for Roomie appears to be designed to access UD devices directly, but it doesn't work. The same goes for UD scenes and programs.

So my solution is create separate Roomie activities to turn on and off the lights in a room, listing each light in the activity separately, rather than the scene that they belong to. Then I create separate Shortcuts to run the activities, For example "Start Kitchen" and "Stop Kitchen". I can control my kitchen lights by speaking those commands into my watch.

An example of an implementation that is incomplete, is that the Shortcuts implementation allows you to send a device command to the ISY994. You set the device field to the "ISY994", the command field to ".LIGHT ON", there is a Parameter field, presumably to set the dimness level, but there is no field to define the underlying Insteon device to control a specific light switch. I tried passing the switch name as a parameter, but that doesn't work.

2021

Two Apple TV

1. Room with Apple TV as a lone device in an activity. Possible to hide/not show volume (at the bottom, not in the action panel, as I know those are locked)?

2. Is there documentation/how-to on App Launch/List? They are not doing anything in testing for me.

I don't know what your first Q means. Can't you just edit the Design to remove?

For your second question, we didn't have time to make that user-friendly. Basically you need to manually send the command .APP LIST from a test activity. Then open the user-visible log (pinch the screen), scroll up to the list of apps, and record the bundle ID for the app you want to launch. It will be something like com.netflix or that kind of thing. Then enter that into the parameter for the .APP LAUNCH command.

A future release will probably retrieve the app list automatically into a menu, but there is a lot to do in this area before we get to that.

Thank you, I’ll dive into Apps.

Volume within default device design can’t be removed. Don’t need volume controls for this particular activity, yet the volume + and - appear at the bottom confusing users (see image).

2021

The 7.1 betas now include support for SSH. You can add it as a generic device using Add Manual and then brand SSH. It is currently limited to authenticating via username/password.

I am using this personally for an exciting integration that will also be its own separate feature at some point. But I am posting this here as the possibilities are limitless and I have no doubt that people will have other ideas of how to use this.

Note that at this point there is no parsing of what is returned. You just send shell commands like you would via SSH.

Hmmmmmm. This could be interesting.

2021

Hi, all. I'm transitioning from iRule, and I have a GC-100-12 module that controls two RS-232 devices in my theater room. When browsing the forums it seems that the firmware for this device needs to be version 3.0 to work with RoomieRemote. Is this correct? I believe someone said I can mail it back to the manufacturer to have the firmware upgraded (I think it was $30), or would I be better served using another device like the Flex system from Global Cache? Obviously, the latter option would be more expensive, but would it work better?

Any input and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hey,

Don't have a real answer, but why not start by trying what you already have and see what it does.
I have the single port version, did not even look at the firmware and it worked fine. Who knows, perhaps it will work as it is.

I may end up doing that. I had just read when searching the forums that it required version 3.0. Do you remember when you purchased your unit? Mine is from 2007. I wonder if your unit has the newest firmware.

No clue about the age, I bought it used ages ago. Back then I think I used it with Irule and then threw it in a box. When I was testing Roomie I remembered having it and figured I might as well see if it worked,

Should be fairly simple to see if it works without too much effort. If it doesn’t work the choice is indeed tricky. If it was me, and the RS232 devices will still be around for a long time I would probably just get one of the new flex ones. If however the RS232 devices might be replaced sometime in the future I would probably just take whatever route is cheapest.

I have the same device and I am controlling two serial devices and 1 IR. Works just fine.

Thanks!!!! I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but I'll report my results when I do.

I have the same one still using now issues on my end

2021

Question: Hi all,

As you may have noticed in my other topics I am busy building my control solution in Roomie and are getting closer step by step.
My next challenge is that I live in a country with no tv guide support (the Netherlands). I knew this up front of course, but I was kind of expecting that I could still have a channel list at least. Even if I would have list channels and numbers by hand. I cannot really figure out how to do it though.
Is there the option to add a channel list? Could just be a...

Staff response: That will require a good amount of low-level manual modification to your config similar to the old way of developing custom code sets. The technique itself is the same as it has been for many years described here:

That method should still work just fine.

Probably simplest path is switch your country and just setup a real guide from a neighboring country. Then you can modify it from there according to the instructions.

2021

Question: I have always been a fan of the Roomie graphical object that can control volume and supports mute on/off. I use it whenever i can and my family just gets it. I would however like the mute button to be able to be used to drive other outcomes. I have a whole house audio setup that has multiple amplifiers that I would like to mute with the same button. As an example i hoped that I could use this button to drive an automation that would drive these other outcomes. Is this possible, or has anyone fig...

Staff response: You can certainly execute commands like that to whatever you want in a custom button.

However to integrate it into the full volume UI, it needs to support that kind of behavior. Specifically, we do support exactly that including grouping control over Sonos devices. I'm aware of APIs that would allow that with HEOS as well if we added support for that aspect there.

So anyway it's all about demand and whether a good control API exists for the specific device(s) you're trying to use.

2021

I have been using Simple Control (Roomie) for a number of years now, with a nVidia Shield (2017) box.

I am in process of upgrading my system and wanted some opinions on whether to stick with the Shield or go to Apple TV. At the moment the Shield is good (mainly used for Plex, Netflix, Amazon Prime) but the connection via IP control is fiddly at times. For example often the USB Debug message will come up for no reason and I have to run to the loft to turn it off etc

Given Roomie has typically favoured Apple (particularly from the Phone OS point of view) I'm wondering whether my experience all round would be better with an Apple TV?

often the USB Debug message will come up

That's a V5 bug. So your first priority should be to upgrade to V6 ASAP.

You're not going to find a perfect answer to this question. But yes, Apple TV is the best choice for control without a doubt. When you get into the details regarding Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc., Apple TV becomes less of a good choice. OTOH Shield is imperfect on DV as well, and only the new Shield Pro supports any sort of DV.

2020

I am having some issue with my HEOS 7 speaker and I am hoping someone can help me here to figure out the issue. I can not access my favorites and streaming services like Pandora on Roomie Remote user guide. It all works fine on the HEOS app. I have added the device to Roomie and I can control it fine. I have also added my HEOS account credentials into Roomie in the device panel but apparently it is not getting validated for some reason and it does not let me access my favorites and streaming services.
At this point I am assuming the credentials are not getting validated through Roomie Remote so the access is getting rejected.

I had the same issue with my HEOS enabled Denon Receiver and the work around for that was I had to enter my credentials through the Denon avr user interface (not Roomie interface) in order to be validated and get the access.
For the HEOS 7 speaker, unfortunately the speaker does not have any user interface so I can do the same work around for the speaker.

Anyone has any idea what might be wrong?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

I was finally able to figure this out.
The issue was that HEOS does not like some characters to be used for the account password. As soon as I changed my HEOS account password and eliminated the character, I was able to login fine with Roomie.

2020

Technical Details:

I have a P1. I like the projector, but control options are crap. It has an Ethernet connection but doesn’t appear to support any of the traditional Optoma network control protocols. The “smart” features with Alex/Google barely work and IFTTT on/off works almost never.

IR controls seem the best solution for the moment. I’ve seen rumors of big firmware updates that add features but were delayed because of the pandemic.... but nothing concrete. I emailed technical support about network control options and the engineering team says there are “no network controls available”. BS - it has even has an iOS remote app. Wireshark shows plenty of traffic when using the horrible Optoma iOS remote (1-2 seconds to register each button push), but it appears to be encrypted. I digress.

Good projector, awful controls, IR seems to work fine.

Hi, I'm currently looking at purchasing an ultra short throw projector.
And, I'm between the Optoma P1 & the LG HU85LA.
I believe the LG should be compatible with Roomie out of the box since it runs webOS.
IDK about the Optoma though.

https://www.optoma.com/us/product/cinemax-p1/

https://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-HU85LA-4k-laser-projector

The LG works. I haven't tried much, but power on through wake-on-lan works

I have a P1. I like the projector, but control options are crap. It has an Ethernet connection but doesn’t appear to support any of the traditional Optoma network control protocols. The “smart” features with Alex/Google barely work and IFTTT on/off works almost never.

IR controls seem the best solution for the moment. I’ve seen rumors of big firmware updates that add features but were delayed because of the pandemic.... but nothing concrete. I emailed technical support about network control options and the engineering team says there are “no network controls available”. BS - it has even has an iOS remote app. Wireshark shows plenty of traffic when using the horrible Optoma iOS remote (1-2 seconds to register each button push), but it appears to be encrypted. I digress.

Good projector, awful controls, IR seems to work fine.

2020

There seems to be No way to search in the HEOS media guide. This makes it pretty useless. For example under amazon music in HEOS there isn’t even the normal artist/album/song selections.

I use HEOS throughout the house. Also use Amazon Music Unlimited. I have had similar challenges with HEOS in Roomie. Though I am not sure it is a Roomie issue. I think the HEOS API leaves a lot to be desired. Even the HEOS app itself is pretty useless with Amazon Music. So maybe that points to a limitation on the Amazon Music side. I can't even play my own playlists through the HEOS app - only the Amazon curated ones. For HEOS and Amazon Music the best solution I have found it either Alexa for casual listening, or the Amazon Music app on iOS for more critical listening sessions. The Amazon Music app on an iPad offers a really nice experience with HEOS. The only missing feature is you can't do queues. Though I think I have a work-around for this that I am going to try.

Thanks for confirming. I agree it must be an API limitation but it makes the guide of limited value since you can’t search

2020

Post:
I’ve had good success using Roomie v6 to setup my theater as a standalone room. I have several other systems around the house that are controlled using Harmony Hubs. Next week I am upgrading one of those rooms and the equipment I’m using can’t be controlled via IP from Harmony but can be controlled by Roomie. Can anyone direct me to the instructions for how to setup the iPads for a two room system so they are dead reliable? The second room is used primarily by my family, so I don’t want any problems. I’ve been running a second iPad Air with my theater as a test and sometimes it doesn’t seem to sync with the primary iPad or seems to cause issues with power on/off sequences where some, but not all, commands get executed.

2020

**....for lack of a better term. Is there a way to for Roomie detect a set of criteria consistent with and activity and activate it?

Here's the use case.... We use a combination of Hard button and Roomie. The Tivo remote isn't going away. As frequently happens, the kids will turn on the tv with the remote and maybe change an input. Rommie if opened would (at least in my config) assume the all off activity is still activated.

I'm wondering if a feature to sense an activity based on device states defined in an activity is possible? Or maybe triggers could be used to do it now?

**It seems like the 'Automations' feature would work for this. However the list of devices you can use as triggers, according to the documents, is very specific. I'm curious if if there any reason that the automations feature couldn't be expanded to allow an IP controlled device (like a TV) to serve as a trigger?

This would address the issue I think. For example, when someone turned the TV off with the remote, the trigger run the Room OFF activity and be in the correct state when the app opens.

2020

Question: The guide data service we contract with has lately been experiencing periodic, frequent downtime. TiVo (formerly Rovi) provides this cloud service in all supported countries. TiVo continues to investigate the cause of this outage. It has not yet been determined, but is server-related on their side. Has nothing to do with Roomie, and it is affecting all TiVo customers using this service/API.

There are only two real providers of this kind of global metadata in the world, so we're working with TiV...

There are only two real providers of this kind of global metadata in the world, so we're working with TiVo as needed to help them resolve the issue. We have no insight into the details as the cloud side of this is maintained by TiVo.

While we do expect the short term issue to resolve in the near future, TiVo recently announced they will be ending support for the incarnation of service/API we currently use on April 30, 2020. They have also committed to release a new service/API at some point in the next few weeks to replace the one ending April 30. It is not clear why there is such urgency to shutdown the old API even before a new API has been released, but it is what it is. Our role is to handle it, not question it.

This has various important implications:
1. All versions of Roomie/Simple below a future release will no longer be able to retrieve guide data after approximately April 30. You will need to be on (estimating) 6.1 or later of Roomie to retain guide metadata. Final details of this will be announced after we have moved to a new service/API.
2. The exact future guide service is not yet finalized, and the time required to adapt to it is also unknowable, but we have allocated a large amount of time to try to make sure this gets done by April 30. We are evaluating all options, and expect to have new guide service in place before the cutover. However, April 30 is not very far away, so any unexpected issues could cause gaps.
3. It is possible that small variations in country support may be part of this migration. This may include added countries or removed countries. Generally, removed countries would only apply to very small countries in the EU or Caribbean. Again, it's too early to say.
4. It is also possible that references to specific channels or providers or other finer details of that nature will not be valid in a new service/API. Re-defining either your Providers or Channel lists may be required as part of any such transition in the future. We plan to make every attempt to eliminate this issue, but it has a fair chance of being insurmountable.

As a reminder, guide service is not part of any purchase/subscription as per the Terms of Service, but we do at this time plan to keep it going for the foreseeable future – with the caveat that you must be on the latest release at all times as usual. This kind of cutover by TiVo is exactly the event anticipated when the Terms of Service were originally written that way.

While other products in our space such as Harmony long ago abandoned guide data altogether (back in 2012 or so, they also used Rov...

2020

Question: Hey all.
I have been using sonos in a few rooms without issues.
I tired switching over the the Sonos Cloud Service to test and have hit a few issues and wanted to see if anyone else has. I am running beta 6.4 (2163)

I can connect to sonos cloud find and I can see all the devices in the manifest.
However they don't seem to want to assign to the rooms as the volume.
I have got primary volume for room selected.
In the Manifest I have selected the room override (just to be sure) and assigned it to ...

Staff response: You are posting in the beta forum but using a beta from 2 months ago? Seriously? Please update and then submit any issues as tickets.

1. You can always just use the original Sonos support if you have some pressing need. It does not have any such issue.
2. Did you select a Sonos Group for the Activity? The Action Panel menu is just a temporary override.

2020

I have some powered speakers in my theater that I would like to turn on/off with Simple Control. They do not have Ethernet, IR, or RS-232 control, they can only be turned on/off remotely using 12v trigger signals. Is there some what to have Simple Control send a 12v trigger to these speakers?

Seems possible with the Relay Cable:

But certainly you'd want to dig down into the detailed specs to make sure it meets your needs:
https://www.globalcache.com/products/flex/flc-rsspec/

2019

Message from Google today:
> • Works with Nest API deprecation date. Nest device APIs will be turned off August 31, 2019.
> • Nest Account to Google Account migration. Early this summer, we will invite Nest Account holders to migrate to a Google Account to align our systems, accounts, and platforms.
> - During account migration, users will be asked to remove their Works with Nest connections.
> - Once migration is completed, all of their Works with Nest connections will no longer work. This action is not reversible.

This was part of a series of announcements by Google today. Note that the date of August 31 is basically incorrect. Most users will probably not think about and just convert their accounts to Google when recommended by a Google website which could happen literally any day now, and that will cause any existing link to Nest to break permanently.

So if you currently use our Nest support, be aware that you can choose to make it last until August 31, but only if you don't do whatever it is they push you to do to convert your account before then.

As to whether we will be able to support Nest after that, it is way too early to tell. Indications from Google people talking about all the many products that this change breaks aren't initially indicating that they gave this a lot of thought.

For users considering migrating away from Nest or looking for a new Thermostat, we would recommend at this time any of the many other supported thermostats including all HomeKit thermostats, and direct access to Ecobee and Honeywell. See the Compatibility page for details.

2019

With the release of V6.0.5 yesterday on the Mac App Store, I'm pleased to announce the macOS Catalina platform for Roomie Remote!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/roomie-universal-home-remote/id1467513544

As previously mentioned in the V6 What's New:

> Note that Apple has not yet implemented a few features in Catalina. Impacted features include: HomeKit, SiriKit, Sharing, Location, and 1Password integration. We anticipate Apple adding some of those in the future. In most cases, the downside is minimal. You can configure Siri Voice on iOS, there is almost no need to configure that on macOS. You can share configurations on iOS, and that works with macOS since it’s all cloud-based and Catalina does have Cloud Synchronization. Not being able to control HomeKit is a mysterious omission given that Apple felt the Home app was so important that it was part of Mojave, but presumably some technical problem prevented actual HomeKit support for Catalina. Despite the ‘Home’ app existing in Catalina, HomeKit itself is completely absent. That issue is 100% on Apple’s side and can be flipped on for us in seconds once Apple fixes it. Other than those caveats, it is a beautiful platform that we are excited to add. For A/V control, the lack of HomeKit is irrelevant so for most users we believe this release should meet their needs. Purchasing the base macOS app is separate from the iOS app, but subscriptions are shared.

Your subscription from iOS automatically licenses the macOS product – the macOS product does not allow purchase of subscriptions. While in principle we'd like to make it possible to use the macOS product entirely independent from iOS, for now it simplifies support paths to ensure it is impossible to have essentially the same subscription from each platform.

The macOS platform provides a great way to a run a Primary Controller in an always-on configuration, and also serves as a full implementation of Roomie on macOS for AV control, or camera viewing (RTSP, Arlo, or Ring – not HomeKit).

Note that based on patterns to date, the review process is quite a bit slower on macOS. While we will submit the same versions at the same times to Apple, there may be a lag on macOS if experience to date continues. I would not expect it to be more than 1-2 weeks on a per-version basis.

2019

Question: ### TLDR Summary

* V6 is a new $9.99 app with the original name Roomie Remote.
* Switching apps ensures that the sweeping changes do not disrupt existing installs via autoupdate.
* V5 subscriptions do license V6.
* V5 continues to work and support for tvOS 13 changes was just released for it in 5.7.8.
* V6 eliminates Simple Hub, replaced with zero-setup iCloud synchronization.
* HomeKit accessories no longer count against subscribed devices.
* V6 includes many new features such as greatly impro...

Staff response: ### TLDR Summary

* V6 is a new $9.99 app with the original name Roomie Remote.
* Switching apps ensures that the sweeping changes do not disrupt existing installs via autoupdate.
* V5 subscriptions do license V6.
* V5 continues to work and support for tvOS 13 changes was just released for it in 5.7.8.
* V6 eliminates Simple Hub, replaced with zero-setup iCloud synchronization.
* HomeKit accessories no longer count against subscribed devices.
* V6 includes many new features such as greatly improved Siri and Shortcuts support, iOS 13 support including Dark Mode, and recorded Apple TV voice commands.

Background

Cloud Synchronization

Question: I am using Infuse app on my Apple TV 4K to stream my local movies. Is there a possibility of adding media guide support for the Infuse app just like the Plex and Kodi app so that I can view my movies on Simple Control Apple TV guide?

Staff response: There is no Kodi app for tvOS, but yes there is a Plex app and we do provide Plex Media Guide for Plex on AppleTV.

I've never played with Infuse. I'm also not aware of an API for it and a quick Google search did not turn one up. If you come across one, feel free to send it our way.

2019

Question: Has Nest support been removed from V6?

Staff response: Nest is on a tear ditching their watch app this week and ditching their whole API a couple of months ago. This was previously covered in the main forum:

Anyway, they got rid of it. There is some kind of vague grace period that sounds easy to trip on, but it's over. V6 won't be released until after the August 31 date.

Both Honeywell and Ecobee are great alternatives. I would choose Ecobee 4 today.

There is hope in the future. There is supposedly some other way to do it, but whatever it is is not clear so basically everyone is mystified. Within 6 months or so, things should clear up. It's clear that they didn't plan this well and it's turned into a huge disaster. We will add them back when the mist clears.

In the meantime, wire the C wire. How hard can it be. I don't think I've ever had a C wire when I moved somewhere.

Changed this. Nest support as it is will remain for now in whatever state they let things keep working. For now, I'm going to let people add new links, but I think that either already doesn't work or will definitely not work on August 31. Anyway, during beta at least it will do exactly what it did before. For release, I'm not sure yet. Depends what they leave running as of September 1.

Note that if you have already migrated to V6, you either need to try to add the device anew, and hope that still works, or re-migrate from V5. (delete all apps, setup V5, install V6)

I just said this yesterday. There has not been a new build. Wait for the announcement in release notes.

2019

Question: I don’t see a setting to detect room iBeacons.

Did V6 drop that functionality?

Staff response: Copy/paste from the V6 What's New not finished yet:

iBeacon Room Detection: When Apple introduced iBeacons, we quickly added support. We thought it was a promising idea, and that it would be improved over time with greater accuracy. We thought Apple would introduce their own iBeacons, or at least introduce whatever things they felt were required to enable location internal to a home. After many years, it’s better to get rid of this feature until such time as Apple moves this area forward as they seem to have forgotten about it since introducing iBeacons. It just didn’t work well, it caused support issues, the only beacons were from third parties, and the accuracy was very difficult to tune correctly. This feature has not been replaced and is one of the few true deprecations.

Getting the feeling this may be one of the most prophetic parts of the What's New in V6 document. If Apple does what is rumored next week, perhaps we'll restore this feature. However, apparently they may not be using Bluetooth so the APIs for all this could be totally different. Would be fun if they finally moved this forward.

2019

Technical Details:

Hi I am just setting up my Anthem 720. I can control it via IP using their app but my Simple Control app does not see it on the network to connect to.
It sees every other IP device and has worked robustly otherwise

Hi I am just setting up my Anthem 720. I can control it via IP using their app but my Simple Control app does not see it on the network to connect to.
It sees every other IP device and has worked robustly otherwise

See here:

As per the list, it is not AutoDiscovered, but the information is there to add it as controllable.

2018

Technical Details:

a projector screen

The question you want to ask is specifically for Brand X and Model Y of integrated screen control module, what is the best way to control it. You will find such information in the compatibility list here. Basically, we control everything popular and the codes for such things are so trivial that even an oddball would be quite simple to add using the DDK.

Hi,
I’m going to be purchasing a projector screen in the near future and wanted to to know if it’s possible to control the screen with a simple blaster? Would I be able to use something like the ex-link cable that you sell? Would IR be my only option? Or is it best to plug it in to my Epson 5040ub projector?

a projector screen

The question you want to ask is specifically for Brand X and Model Y of integrated screen control module, what is the best way to control it. You will find such information in the compatibility list here. Basically, we control everything popular and the codes for such things are so trivial that even an oddball would be quite simple to add using the DDK.

2018

i Would like to be able to add coloured custom icons. I like the way we have moved to simple cleaner icons but please let’s have some colour back in our lives.

I'd also like to be able to have coloured custom icons.
I know the app has a specific style which is great but the addition of custom icons is a per user preference not a stock thing so I believe custom images should all be as per users desire not the developers.

Could we make a poll for this?

I know what the answer to the poll will be, but sure it would be interesting nonetheless. I have added bias to the wording to help inform people.

* Maintain consistency in the interface by forcing custom images to a uniform color system.
* Allow users to add color images potentially causing confusing and inconsistent interfaces.

2018

Version History & Migration

This release sounds small because I gave it a diminutive version number of 9.2.2, but actually includes months of updates for the Apple TV support. In particular, it is required for compatibility with Apple TVs running 18.4+ due for release shortly. As well, gesture controls with Apple TV have been improved across all supported releases.

A few other changes in this release:
• Date is now displayed in the Homebar Weather summary row.
• Resiliency improvements and error reporting for Automatic Backup.
• Auto-Discovery of newer Zidoo models like the Z30 Pro.
• Fixed issues with rooms sometimes not appearing in Linked Volumes.

If you are already running tvOS 18.4 beta/RC, you may need to use the Force Code Set Update button to engage the appropriate updates for full functionality.

2025

Question: Hi, Are TCL tv's with google tv os compatible ? Just need to be able to turn it on and access streaming apps.

Thanks !

Staff response: Anything based on modern Google TV is compatible. The nuances of how each manufacturer implements it may differ between devices, but in general to date we haven't encountered any big gaps like lack of power support etc.

2023

I noticed that the newly updated custom device editor in V6 now includes the ADB protocol. Are there any sample files or can you provide an example what the code would like like?

Jeff

Exactly what you would send via ADB to a device that supports it. For instance:

shell:input keyevent KEYCODE_DPAD_RIGHT

2021

On one of my devices, I got an update to V7.1.1 Build 2356 in the production App Store this morning. Testflight still has V7.1.0 Build 2343. And none of my other devices are showing the new production version in the App Store.

What's up?

Jeff

Since there is no beta program at this time, what goes to beta is going to be random spot testing. You will periodically see 7.2 builds come through there at some point, but certainly it is possible as is the case right now that production is actually ahead of beta.

Sorry. My mistake. Forgot I had to manually search in the production app store to realize there was a newer production version.

Jeff

2021

Recently, Google released support for Nest Thermostats in their Smart Device Management (SDM) API. Any chance of re-supporting this?

Our standing recommendation remains what it says in the release notes. If you need Nest support, use Homebridge Nest to use it in Roomie.

We did begin the approval process for the new API. There are many layers of red tape, the last of which remains. Given the current task list, this is more likely to be a 2021 task. After V6.5 goes out, after that settles down, and assuming the many layers of approval go well, the actual implementation time seems very simple. We'll see.

2020

Coming up, we will no longer sell customized Global Caché infrared, serial, and relay adapter products. The software remains fully compatible with Global Caché, Roomie Blaster (2013), and Simple Blaster (2015) products. In 2011, it was absolutely critical that we seed the market with infrared adapters on which we have never made any profit. We provided that service simply to help get them out there.

After many years as a leader in IP control and almost all AV products now featuring IP control as standard, infrared has long since been toppled as the primary control mechanism for AV. The Global Caché products are available worldwide from many resellers including Amazon, and we certainly still recommend them. Only our online store is ending. Just as we don’t sell great IP control devices like Sony UHD BD Players, we also will not directly sell infrared adapters anymore, but our recommendation of Global Caché remains and they have been an excellent partner these many years.

As inventory is already at low levels, the final units in inventory will be available at 25% off while supplies last, discount applied automatically at checkout across the entire order (including any cables). This opportunity may not last long! In particular, Ethernet models are very low quantity. PoE models are already sold out. All Blaster sales are final.

2019

My Subscription for SimpleControl V5 is up next month (which I don’t need). Can I cancel it and then go to Roomie Remote V6 and Restore Purchases and then pay $9.99 for V6. So if I understand correctly there won’t be an additional charge for adding X number of devices in V6?

Subscriptions in V6 are outlined in the What's New doc in the nearby thread.

The V6 app itself is 9.99. So you would buy the base app. Stop renewal for V5. Start a sub in V6. Your V5 sub will work fine in V6 until that happens.

This assumes V6 releases before your renewal which like every year depends on Apple.

2019

I have a number of activities working that all assume everything is off in the beginning state. Once I have the TV, AVP, and amps on, I'd like to be able to simply switch my HDMI video sources without powering everything down and starting up again with a new Activity. In many cases, all I need to be able to do is send a command to the HDMI matrix switch to select a new input. However, in a couple of cases I also need to be able to power on the new video source video (e.g., watch a CATV source and want to watch a BluRay). I've tried a couple things but neither has worked satisfactorily.

1. I tried setting a new Activity to power on the new source and switch the matric switcher but as soon as I select the new Activity, it triggers the set of Stop actions that are defined for the first activity, so my TV, AVP, and amps all turn off.

2. I tried using Design to add a custom button for each video source. I have it working where the button can switch the matrix switcher and turn on the BluRay player but I don't see a way to make the new video source the primary device so its controls show up on the iPad.

What is the best way to switch video sources without switching everything else off and on?

In theory all activities have to assume the beginning state is off as it could well be and thus needs to turn everything on (I'm sure there are exceptions where conditions can be used though). I think the issue is that you have 'Stop' actions. If you remove those, nothing will turn off when you select a different activity, although to save on energy, you could keep a stop action for the device the activity relates to i.e. if the device that isn't required in any other activities).

The system off activity will turn everything off when required.

Selecting a new activity will simply turn everything on (if they are not already) then switch to the relevant input etc.

A potential issue with this is for example, if toggle is the only power control for your TV. In that instance starting a new activity would actually turn off the TV if it was already on. There is a way around this by selecting an option to track powerstate in the device settings, but it will come out of sync if someone turns the TV off with the remote.

I do what a user suggests. Each activity powers on the needed devices. The Power Off activity for the room turns everything off. I suppose if you know for sure that you don't need a device on for an activity that you could issue the device a power off command from the start of your activity. For me I always have the TV and AVR on and the rest is just switching matrix and / or AVR inputs as needed and turning on the source device. To me I don't mind if two or three source devices are on.

2019

Question: For some strange reason I lost 1/3 of all my devices in Roomie Remote V6 after the last update (1926). Is there anyway I can restore these files to V6 from SimpleControl V5 without re-entering them?

Staff response: Restore from Backup? Or, you should also try just deleting the app and re-installing to make sure it's not correct in the cloud but wrong on your device.

The best way is to Restore from a Backup. That effectively resets everything in the cloud and then uploads everything. To make sure it is "wrong" in the cloud, you can just use the Reset All Settings button and see what you get back.

I keep saying "Restore from Backup" but there's no comment on that. It's the "normal" solution to this. Do you not have a backup?

So just restore your V5 backup to V6. All you need to do is rename it "RoomieBackup.zip" and put it into your V6 iCloud Drive folder.

2019

Does Simple Control support this through IR or Ethernet? The terms of condition seem to imply that it has ethernet control. It is not listed on the compatibility page (unless I missed it).

We actually purchased this model and researched it extensively. I'm pretty sure it's hopeless. They don't claim IP control, they don't publish their own app for control, it does not respond to any known Panasonic protocols. Their website implies it does Miracast but even that seemed totally non-functional. Then, the physical remote it included was the same remote we got with a BDT-320 we purchased in 2013. I've never purchased a test unit of something that I can recall where we were not able to find some kind of IP control, but genuinely this box defeated me and we actually returned it.

If something changes and suddenly some firmware update comes out that appears to offer some kind of control, please let me know and we'll happily look into it as I was hoping for a viable replacement for Oppo, but for now that model was definitely not it.

It works fine via infrared of course.

I'm not sure what is going on with Panasonic these days. They used to be good. Will's story is sad, but not that surprising.

I have a (circa 2010) Panasonic best-model plasma and a Blu-Ray player. Over the years, various Viera-Cast Apps on both went stale and bad. So much for networking abilities and Internet updates increasing their useful lives.

Both have Ethernet, but neither are IP controllable.

2018

August Lock is now compatible with HomeKit - I understand this means I can use it as a trigger - but will there be any home bar integration in the future?

We have not tested ourselves with that device but I have seen countless users through support that use it. It should already be fully integrated in HomeBar. Certainly many other HomeKit locks work well in HomeBar today.

Great thanks. By the way I’ve been with you for about 4 years now. Seen the
app move through alot and I just wanted to say you are doing an awesome job!

2018

Is there a list of changes for 5.7.3? The version history in the App Store doesn’t seem to have been updated for 5.7.3.

There were 7 or so fixes I thought might be nice to get out before the holiday shutdown. All relatively minor so not worth detailing in What's New.

* Honeywell thermostat fixes for some rare configurations.
* Fixed Onkyo TX-NR787 volume.
* Fixed top 3 crashers from analytics.
* Belkin devices import more cleanly via HomeKit.

2018

Question: Is there a way to change the order of the activities listed within a room in the new SC version 5? I want the most used activity listed first, and was hoping there is a way to reorder the activity list within a room without having to delete and redo all the activities in the order I want.

Staff response: That's what it does automatically. The most used activities automatically sort themselves to the top.

In 5.5, Activities can be freely re-ordered. Only the Simple Home dashboard is ordered by usage statistics.

Even if we had a "release date" which is probably 1-2 months out, the App Store decides when things get released. They can do things in less than a day, or they could take a very long time.

2018

I would like to see support for Daikin air conditioners. There is a wifi controllers that could be built into many versions of the in door units called Daikin Online Controller.

/Harry

2017

**Has there been any updates to controlling the nvidia shield console? I know there is IR control of it so I wouldn't think it would be that hard to add? If anyone has any ideas please let me know.

It's in the IR library now actually. The website listing for IR compatibility is a few months out of date. The actual IR library has tens of thousands of additional improvements, but the change over to the new website has not yet been updated to reflect that.

**Fantastic news thank you!

**How about being able to control it via wifi and not through IR?

2015

Hi there, google just updated Chromecast app which can now send Play/Stop command.

Would be great in Roomie to have this function instead of going back to the app to stop/play/pause.

2015

Will Roomie work with this new hub or would you guys have to implement HomeKit support?

Should work great. When we get one, we'll add it to the compatibility list after verifying. Anything that we control will not need HomeKit. Only items outside that circle we have not yet added like say Chamberlain Garage Doors if they are still planning a HomeKit product could be controlled in the future via HomeKit.

Did this work out? I briefly tried to add one at a job but it wouldn't add via the insteon login. With the hub pro what is the suggested connection method?

Any updates on this? I can't get this to work either, the hub is essentially useless at this point with my current Roomie setup.

According to Insteon in July, they stated the HomeKit version of their Hub shipped without normal API support but that they would be fixing that shortly. We don't know when that might occur, so we continue to recommend buying the normal version of their Hub linked on our compatibility page.

2015

Hi there,

i am trying to get my Edimax Switches (WiFi Power-plugs) working with Roomie Remote.

There is a way to switch them via HTTP post message. The device could be powered on by url (smartplug.cgi) and the following XML script:


<SMARTPLUG id="edimax"><CMD id="setup">ON</CMD></SMARTPLUG>

So i tried to write this custom device script looking like:
<dict>
<key>brand</key>
<string>Edimax</string>
<key>cat</key>
<string>Switch</string>
<key>codes</key>
<dict>
<key>POWERON</key>
<string>POST /smartplug.cgi

<SMARTPLUG id="edimax">
<CMD id="setup">
ON
</CMD>
</SMARTPLUG></string>
<key>.AUTH 1 FORMAT</key>
<string>Username</string>
<key>.AUTH 2 FORMAT</key>
<string>Password</string>
</dict>
<key>method</key>
<string>http</string>
<key>type</key>
<integer>1</integer>
</dict>

But it does not work.
Could you please help me getting able to run this in Roomie Remote?!

Thanks in advance
Bastian

Looks like you're missing a blank line before the XML header. Everything without a line before is going to become a header not body.

Thanks for your help!

Now it works with the following syntax:
<key>PLUGON</key>
<string>POST /smartplug.cgi


<SMARTPLUG id="edimax">
<CMD id="setup">
ON
</CMD>
</SMARTPLUG>
</string>

2014

Hey guys,

Loving the look of the update...

I can't seem to get Sonos grouping as pictured in the screenshot of the 3.0 release notes... in fact i have no grouping options at all....

I am sure its probably something i am doing.. any ideas?

The new Sonos Grouping is now just part of the normal volume controls for the Virtual Remote.

The caveat that probably is throwing you off is that whereas previously Sonos Group controls would appear in the Media Feedback panel even if Sonos was not set as the Volume Control for the Virtual Remote, now the 'Volume Control' setting of the Activity must be set to any Sonos device in order to engage the grouping view when the volume screen is tapped.

hi guys, sorry for the delayed response.....

that was exactly it.. needed to set volume control to sonos on the virtual remote. problem solved.

 

loving it.

2014

Question: i hope you create an app for the apple watch?

Staff response: The Sonos specific issue and other things are being fixed in a 3.2.1 maintenance release. If anyone notices any issues with the Watch version, please send them to support.

2014

Will or does Roomie support the Amazon Fire Streaming Stick?

We don't have clear information on that yet. If we can support it, we will. There are certainly indications that it may have an interface via IP that the original Fire TV did not have.

Which, if true, leads one to believe the original Fire TV will also get the new interface.

We'll see. It would be quite an awesome device for that price if it also supported IP control.

Any news on this yet? I know they have been shipping out so assuming you guys have it and tested so hoping Amazon opened up IP control. Thanks.

Both the Stick and the non-Stick have an IP interface. It most certainly exists and we have looked at it deeply.

It is not an official API. Amazon has stated they want to release such an API, with no timeframe.

We're certainly planning to spend more time on this regardless and not wait for an official API. It can't be harder than Apple TV, that much is certain.

The original Fire TV can be controlled via IR with one of the IR USB adapters linked in that thread.

Is there any news on this? The Stick is being released in Austria and Germany in April and this functionality would be great.

We released full support for the Fire TV and Fire TV Stick in 3.1.0.

Lastnight we deployed some updates that enhance that support even further. Reverse and Forward commands are now much smoother and can be held down or tapped consecutively to change speed.

2014

Is the Lutron Caseta compatible with Roomie? i.e. Lutron PD-6WCL

We have been meaning to take a look at that. It is supposed to be a somewhat different protocol from Radio RA 2 that we do support.

The urge to try Amazon's new same day delivery on a Saturday no less was much too great in this case so at least we're likely to take a look at it soon. There are a huge number of things we're working on for 3.0 though, so it's not clear this will make it. We do provide the custom device DDK to add this kind of thing at any time, generally without feedback but control should be fairly simple:

Roomie Remote Support

Are you talking about the Smart Bridge Pro? I would like to see this supported with Roomie as well.

Yes, this is Low Budget version of Radio RA 2! It is a natural companion for us people who can't afford Control 4 and Creston. (We buy Roomie and Caseta. The Smart Bridge and app work great. Please integrate into Roomie!

Don't Caseta's use Pico's as the light switch? Would like the to look like the Ra2 switches.

2014

Post:
Hello,

I've been testing calling apps within roomie via Custom URL Scheme, however I haven't been able to pull the INSTEON app to control my fan. Has anyone found the exact URL for this app? Thanks,

Post:
Cant help you other than to suggest to get an ISY-99 which i use and it integrates GREAT with Roomie in a far better way than a URL scheme ever could. A worthwhile investment. I created a pop-up menu with ISY commands for all of my lights, fans, garage door control, etc.

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Has anyone found the URL for the Insteon Hub app? I'd like to use it to launch the activities that Roomie cannot cover, such as cameras and thermostat...

Thanks,

Cory

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No one has this URL? It'd be great to just open the app within roomie until thermostat and cameras are supported...

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This link should help
wiki.indigodomo.com/doku.php?id= ... uch_urls&s[]=url&s[]=schemes

Ara

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Hey Ara - I checked out the link you provided, but I have Insteon and not Indigo... so not sure this will help me out at all. Hey Roomie Admin, are you going to add more support for the Insteon Hub?

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I used to use roomie with my insteon smartlinc. I think when the hub was released people were able to set it up with roomie following the smartlinc instructions. Now I have the isy, definitely works great with roomie.

2013

Question: Will Roomie be able to control the Xbox One via IP?

Staff response: my problem was that I was out of range for the blaster. if I hold the blaster 3 feet closer everything works fine. the only problem is that with my setup i can't actually move 3 feet closer. I have ordered a second FLEX WIFI IR to stay in the AV cabinet so my problems should be solved.

Microsoft recently issued an update to the Xbox One that fixed the POWER ON and POWER OFF infrared commands. They did however use new and different codes for those two commands. We have just updated the Roomie Service with these new commands. To update immediately, tap "Update Devices" in Settings.

2013

Question: After the 1.9 update the show info no longer shows up for directv. I looked at various settings to add it back but no luck. The receivers are HR20-100s via TCP.

Staff response: We fixed this for Mario. It's a bug in migration. Any newly added devices are fine. So deleting the device and adding it fresh resolves the issue. If you'd like to fix it yourself, the type of the device in Roomie.plist needs to be changed from 17 to 18 for DirecTV receivers. Support can also do this for you and send your configuration back to you. Version 1.9.1 will also auto-correct that.

Thank you.

2013

The compatible devices list includes:

Cisco/Scientific Atlanta IPN/VPN and CIS Series (IPTV)

I have a Cisco CIS430. When I try to add it on a device I don't see it as an option. My only options seem to be 8000HD series or RNG Series Code Group 1 and 2. Can anyone help?

 

Thanks,

Dennis

The correct set for the CIS box is:

Set Top Box: Cisco: IPN and VPN (IPTV) Series

But that isn't one of the options the software gives me. As I said above I can choose between:

8000HD Series

RNG Series Code Group 1

RNG Series Code Group 2

You're in the wrong category. See above. The category is "Set Top Box". You're under "Cable".

2013

Not sure if this is due to an update to Roomie or Sony, but now I have to register my Roomie as a media remote. I go to the settings menu on my BDP and try to register Roomie and it asks me to press the registration on my media device. I have no registration option on any remotes. Any ideas?

This has always been true and always noted in the IP Compatibility list:

Device Compatibility

The only difference is that now we tell you about it in Roomie and tell you what to do. The Sony Media Remote app is what you need to register. From that point, the few aspects of control needing that will work fine with Roomie.

FWIW, I'm getting the "forbidden" message in 1.8, but a) it still works, and b) I had already registered in 1.7.

Do you have an older model? What is your exact model number? Anyway, it's not a very important message so we took it out of 1.8.1.

BDP-S590. Cool.

2013

Here are the primary changes in the library from the 5/18 update that just went live.

This week is a much larger than usual update as we roll out a large number of infrared additions as well as various updates to IP control and some preparatory changes for the 1.5 release.

IP Highlights
Denon/Marantz Receivers: Zone 2/3 cursor commands fixed.
Onkyo/Integra Receivers: Updated for 2012 models.
Samsung TVs: Several commands added.

Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, Integra, and Pioneer receivers have all had improvements to their network, iPod, and radio control codes, some of which will not be apparent until Roomie 1.5.

Serial Highlights
All receiver changes above also apply to serial control.

IR Highlights
Denon/Marantz Receivers: Updated for latest models.
Onkyo/Integra Receivers: Updated for 2012 models.
Yamaha Receivers: Updated for 2012 models.
Samsung TVs: Added a special command set for older Samsung HLS models.
Sharp TVs: Fixed incorrect CURSOR DOWN.
Sky Satellite: Updated codes from manufacturer.

Hundreds of additional IR codes added. See the IR compatibility page for a full manifest of changed command sets:
Device Compatibility

To force your copy of Roomie to update right away, force quit Roomie by tapping the Home button, then double-tap Home to bring up the application bar, tap and hold the Roomie icon until a red minus sign appears, and then tap that sign. The next time you run Roomie, the library will automatically update.

2012

I recentally purchased this switch...
gefen.com/gefentoolbox/gtbpr ... d_id=10306

Its a great product but i would like to know if its possible for roomie to support this device i emailed Geffen today and received all the HEX codes, they are as followed:

RMT 848IR HEX CODES (8X8 Matrix)

INPUTS -

#1

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0022 0022
0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0BF5

#2

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0022 0022
0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0022 0BF5

#3

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0BF5

#4

0000 0067 0000 000A 0044 0044 0044 0044 0044 0044 0022 0022
0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0022 0022 0022 0BF5

#5

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0022 0022 0BF5

#6

0000 0067 0000 000A 0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0044 0044
0022 0022 0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0044 0044 0022 0BF5

#7

0000 0067 0000 000A 0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0044 0044
0022 0022 0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0022 0022 0044 0BF5

#8

0000 0067 0000 000A 0044 0044 0044 0044 0044 0044 0022 0022
0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0044 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0BF5




OUTPUTS -

A -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0045 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0BF5


B -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0045 0045 0022 0022 0045 0022 0BF5

C -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0045 0045 0BF5

D -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0022 0022
0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0045 0022 0022 0022 0BF5

E -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045 0022 0022 0BF5

F -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045 0045 0022 0BF5

G -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0045
0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0022 0022 0045 0BF5

H -

0000 0067 0000 000A 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0045 0022 0022
0022 0022 0022 0022 0045 0045 0022 0022 0022 0022 0022 0BF5



Thanks

Those can be pasted right into a RoomieCodes file. We have a template here:

Roomie Remote Support

You don't even need to convert the codes. That exact format can just be pasted right in. We can add these to a future library update as well, but the instructions above should get these into your Roomie in minutes.

2012

I am having issues with the Auto-discovery of this receiver. I have let the Add Device... screen sit here for about 15 minutes and it still is not showing up. It sees all of my other IP devices except that one.

Any thoughts?

It never takes more than a few seconds for Onkyo, so most likely that model was produced before proper auto-discovery was implemented. In that case, just add it via manual IP on port 60128 per the compatibility list.

I did a firmware update to my receiver and it fixed my issue. Sorry to bother you.

2012

Can this Samsung Blue ray BD-D5700 be controlled via IP? I see BD-E5700 listed, but was not sure if it was the same player/functionality.

That falls within the IP compatibility chart for 2011 models which says "At least BD-Player D5300".

5700 > 5300 therefore it is compatible.

Thank you.

It doesn't seem to show up automatically. Was I supposed to do a manual IP entry?

I also have a samsung TV-46C630, which shows up when I turn it on, but I don't think it can be controlled via IP, but I am not sure.

2012

Question: I'm created a custom remote design and wanted to use the small buttons you get all the way at the bottom under all the bars and pads. I'm able to turn off all the pads but every time I turn off the top bar, Roomie crashes. If I turn off all the pads but one, I can turn off the top bar but if I then attempt to turn off the last pad, Roomie locks up.

Staff response: We have indeed fixed that issue in the next release. The App Store is effectively closed for any new apps through the holidays so the next release will likely be in January sometime.

Meanwhile, there is technically a way to do what you're talking about if you edit the underlying XML directly. RoomieRemotes.plist has a section for each remote that looks like this:


<key>tbar</key>



If you delete that section from the remote you want to modify and then sync your change back to Roomie via Dropbox, the Top Bar will be disabled.

So it is "fixed in the next release" but you aren't yet ready to release it, and when you do release it, it could take as long as two months for Apple to release it?

Dare I tease: Agile much? :) (come on -- laugh with me)

2012

Question: I love the Logitech Harmony Link, but since that's discontinued I'm looking for a replacement. With the Logitech Harmony Link the app is free, so I would have family and friends download the free app and they could control my equipment when visiting.

I purchased the Roomie remote. I have family who want to use Roomie, relatives visit for a week, or I have friends over I want to let them control my system. They each have to pay! Or I have to give my iTunes account and password for their ...

Staff response: How about a version that would only load a fixed configuration, supporting no changes at all. Essentially a read-only version. Make it able to use ALL of the functionality without having to load the added packs. This way adding more users to a configuration wouldn't be a budget issue.

Make it $5, which seems entirely reasonable for what it offers.

2012

Here are the primary changes in the library from the 10/27 update that just went live.

IP Highlights
Boxee Box by D-Link: Added many new commands including play position status and set (not all new functionality will work before Roomie 1.7.)
Denon Receivers: Added Aux 2 input for 2012 receivers. Added HDMI OUTPUT AUTO command.
Dreambox: Added several new commands.
Marantz Receivers: Synchronized with latest Denon changes.
Sony VPL-VW1000ES Projector: Added basic commands.

Infrared Highlights
Apple TV: Replaced existing command set with improved set that matches the original remote more closely.
Arris Moxi Series: Replaced existing command set with improved set.
DarbeeVision Darblet Video Processor: Added.
Philips DCR8111/06 (UPC-Cablecom): Added.

Serial Highlights
Atlona AT-PRO2HD88M HDMI Matrix: Added.
Niles ZR Series Multizone System: Added.
Sony VPL-VW1000ES Projector: Added basic commands.

To force your copy of Roomie to update right away, force quit Roomie by tapping the Home button, then double-tap Home to bring up the application bar, tap and hold the Roomie icon until a red minus sign appears, and then tap that sign. The next time you run Roomie, the library will automatically update.

After this update, the "Main Menu" command no longer works for my AppleTV 2. It works when I test the remote commands, but no longer works in my configuration. I've tried deleting my virtual remote and rebuilding it, but that hasn't helped. Please help.

It sounds like you have a Remote Design associated with the Activity that depended on one of the old commands. Either re-assign that button in the Remote Design to the command you want to send, or just delete the Remote Design and let it re-create itself as the default.

Problem solved! Thank you.

2012

I cannot get my Sony Brava home theater system to show up. I was able to connect to it with the sony app, but roomie won't see it. I tried to manually connect but nothing sees to work.

We're not sure what device you're talking about. Is it on the IP list:

Device Compatibility

It sure sounds like an IR device in which case you select the iTach not the Sony. After selecting the iTach, you then select Home Theater System then Sony.

I dont have an itach. I have a Sony blu ray disk that is also a home theater sound system. I can use the app Sony provides to connect to it though the network. But it doesn't appear as an item in the auto search and I can't manually connect. I believe it's a BDV-E780W. No it's not on the list. But if it uses the same Sony app., then shouldn't the codes be the same?

Thanks

The IP compatibility list is the list of items compatible via IP and we keep the list fully up to date -- if it's not on the list, it probably needs an iTach. Sony has many, many variations on their codes, so most likely they're not the same. You could try to add it via Manual IP as if it were a Sony BDP, but we think the chances of that working are about 30%.

2012

Question: Here are the primary changes in the library from the 8/29 update that just went live.

IP Highlights
Denon/Marantz Receivers: Added 5 Channel Stereo Mode for old Denon model.
Onkyo/Integra Receivers: Fixed Internet Radio Preset commands for numbers 10-40 in all zones.
Sonos Media Players: Many updates in preparation for Roomie 1.6.

Serial Highlights

2012

will your app run will your app run a LG 47LM8600/ or LG Cinema Screen 47LM7600 If not how often do you have to update the drivers?

We publish compatibility lists here:

Device Compatibility

but not through Ip?

LG TVs are listed in both the Serial and IR methods. If your model supports serial, that may be an option.

LG have a whole range of new Network-enabled Smart TV's which can be controlled through their LG Magic app available through iTunes. I've just bought one and it would be great to get it supported the Roomie suite through the network interface. Can help out with beta testing if required.

2012

Playing around I found that Meridian Audio receivers seem to be supported (at least the codes are there) via RS232. There is not an input choice on the "commands" list when editing an "Activity" , but there is on on the virtual remote. Would it be possible to get this added in the next release. The code is there, just not in the drop down menu for activity commands. There is one for "disc" but it doesn't send the LD command.

thanks,

Mark

The Meridian G68 serial command set does not contain an INPUT LD command. Perhaps you have a different model that would have such a command. If you see such a command on the Virtual Remote, you may have also added the device via infrared as well as serial? The infrared set for the broader array of Meridian receivers does contain such a command.

This commande is for the "5" sieres of Merdian AV controllers, which there are many in the field. Is there a chance of adding the "LD" command to the existing G68 code in the next release. It does not conflict with the G68 codes.

The current serial set is for the Meridian G68 specifically. If you have a different device, we do have a custom device DDK to add custom commands:

Roomie Remote Support

Also, if you have a command list document for your model, we'd be happy to take a look at it and compare it to the current set to see if we can just add that command.

2012